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RIOTS

  1. Rhema Word profile image60
    Rhema Wordposted 19 months ago

    “The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility. ” ― Martin Luther King, Jr.

    1. feenix profile image60
      feenixposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      Rheman, In my opinion, the rioters in both Ferguson and Baltimore should have been harshly admonished by every one in positions of power and influence, from Barack Obama on down. The rioters should have been told, in no uncertain terms, that they are a disgrace to the black race, that they are setting back progress, and that they are behaving like savages.

      Personally, I believe that Obama is to blame for what happened in Ferguson and Baltimore -- and the reason why I feel that way is, as soon as the riots broke out in Ferguson, Obama should have posted a battalion of the 82nd Airborne Division on the outskirts of the city, with the unit ready to go in on a moment's notice.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
        Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago in reply to this

        And what would happen in the black community if he did?
        I wonder???
        I think they would cry.
        They would mutter amongst themselves, "Dad is mad."
        Obama can't be the hated Dad.

    2. Don W profile image84
      Don Wposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      I agree with MLK here. I also agree when he said: "Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena. They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood.

      Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest.

      The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking. But most of all, alienated from society and knowing that this society cherishes property above people, he is shocking it by abusing property rights.

      There are thus elements of emotional catharsis in the violent act. . . . It is also noteworthy that the amount of physical harm done to white people other than police is infinitesimal and in Detroit whites and Negroes looted in unity."

      (Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.)

      1. janesix profile image61
        janesixposted 19 months ago in reply to this

        Yes. We need to give these misguided youth "space to destroy".

        Every upstanding citizen needs a space to destroy now and again.

      2. janesix profile image61
        janesixposted 19 months ago in reply to this

        More deprivation and oppression:

        Baltimore second in per-pupil spending

        http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-0 … -districts

  2. John Holden profile image60
    John Holdenposted 19 months ago

    Disenfranchise people, leave them with no voice and no alternative method of objecting to anything. How do you expect people to express their displeasure with the system?

    1. ahorseback profile image46
      ahorsebackposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      Get off their asses and vote . For one.   It is an epidemic of apathy to begin with  that has brought us all to the brink of revolution in the streets . One out of four or five  would be my guess as to what percentage of people actually do .   Yet we riot at  the end game of that which we create ourselves ?

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 19 months ago in reply to this

        The problem is you have no party that represents the disadvantaged so even when you do use your vote, you inevitably vote for more oppression.

        1. janesix profile image61
          janesixposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          Yes, they are oppressed with free food (EBT), free education including higher education, free housing, Affirmative Action for employment and college, voting rights. I'm sure you could come up with dozens of more "oppressive" perks they get, on the backs of the white oppressive taxpayer who has to pay of third of thier earnings every month to pay for the perks.

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 19 months ago in reply to this

            And you think that is compensation for being treated as a second class citizen!.

            1. janesix profile image61
              janesixposted 19 months ago in reply to this

              I've never seen anyone being treated as a second class citizen. Please show me where anyone's being treated that way.

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                How many of your first class citizens have to rely on free food etc?

                1. janesix profile image61
                  janesixposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                  You don't have to rely on free food if you get off your butt and get a job. And not have six kids by six different fathers.Just like the Mother of the Year they are celebrating, who pummeled her rioting child. (Great parenting skills, by the way.Why is no one calling CSD on that wonderful mother?)

                  1. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                    You are so detached from reality that I can't even begin to tell you.

                  2. Quilligrapher profile image90
                    Quilligrapherposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                    It is sad to see so many people slandering the poor with false accusations.

                    They often resort to lies and exaggerations because they can not justify their opinions with true and factual statements. "Six kids by six different fathers" is a typical distortion spread by the seriously misinformed. It is, in fact, a far cry from the real world in which the average number of persons in a one-parent family receiving means-tested government assistance is 3.1 persons, i.e. a parent and about 2.1 children {1}

                    Furthermore, US families receiving assistance are the same average size as families that do not receive assistance. As for getting a job, in four out of five one-parent families receiving assistance, there is one wage earner.

                    "Six kids by six different fathers" is blatantly false and a fabricated generalization that is completely inconsistent with what actually exists in our society.
                    http://s2.hubimg.com/u/6919429.jpg
                    {1} http://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-2/sp … stance.htm Table 1.

        2. ahorseback profile image46
          ahorsebackposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          John  , Apathy  keeps way  too many from the polls , that and the two party plague .  There should be another  , perhaps independent , party entered into the works !   However ,   a grass root's voter connection from both parties COULD  change the  gridlock and political   games congress plays .

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 19 months ago in reply to this

            I think a grass roots connection is the only answer.
            In the UK we had five major parties vying for power in the recent election which resulted in the party winning power having 63% of the electorate voting against them.

            How do we get corporate influence out of our daily lives?

            1. ahorseback profile image46
              ahorsebackposted 19 months ago in reply to this

              We in America , have to begin a major voter revolution where  only a  very well organized major  public outcry will work .    Somewhere between that and  beginning to hang congressman from light posts !   I  personally would vote for the second  action .   Really , I don't know John  !

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                Pretty much the same here ahorseback, even though we had several parties all vying for power most of them offered pretty much the same austerity. Austerity in the UK is a method of making the many pay for the financial incompetence of the few.

      2. rhamson profile image76
        rhamsonposted 19 months ago in reply to this

        How has the vote worked so far? Is there any change in the candidates, the rhetoric or for that matter the country due to it? It continues to head south as the greed at the top overtakes our freedom of choosing anybody that is not the party preference or patsy. Getting off your @## has done little to help the system choose a candidate of the people.

        1. janesix profile image61
          janesixposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          Yes, always blame someone else.

          People are incapable of voting for their true interests. Therefore, idiots will keep voting in idiots who will continue to destroy the country. We get exactly what we deserve.

          1. rhamson profile image76
            rhamsonposted 19 months ago in reply to this

            "We get exactly what we deserve."

            How very true.

        2. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
          Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          If we cannot rely on the vote, and the greed at the top cannot be controlled... then what?
          Are we done?
          Are the Globalists bringing about WWIII and theres no stopping it?
          Probably.

  3. janesix profile image61
    janesixposted 19 months ago

    But "they're just kids!".

    Yes, we should encourage our children to riot, burn, loot and destroy, instead of instilling values in them and punishing them for their misdeeds.

    We need to give them their "space to destroy"!

  4. ahorseback profile image46
    ahorsebackposted 19 months ago

    Capitalism ,  by today's   modern definition , is the  most successful driving   economic force in the world  , by default !  Hence ,  it becomes  the source  for so many to look for the place to settle into an atmosphere of ---------- " What can I get out of  this  system!",

    Why does it not surprise me then  that the  crier's all things  'socialism' call for America to  finance  everything from  welfare driven ,socio- economic  welfare  slavery ,  to  the free  educational grant's  totally fueled by leftist taught  ideals ,  leading  to the  over- throwing of individual  control of THIS very system .

    Kathryn Hill said it best and  someone should quote this ! "Capitalism is neutral ,a system does not have intentions "

    Yet there are many , many other-wise very bright minds here who would make you believe that  our very system  somehow owes you !    For  the life of me , I cannot figure how anyone decides too rely on the system  to provide instead of  finding a way to live by earning from this system .

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago

    Monopolies are the problem. Not capitalism. And there are laws to deal with potential crooks and evil individuals or corporations of individuals who would "make profits at the expense of others, including the competition, the government or the people…" who "extract profits in the short haul... and believe "the short haul is the standard business model." The law is to prevent Individuals who unite and end up "devastating an economy or other countries' solvency, since profit is the most important thing to them."
    Or has the law changed and ALLOWS crony capitalism where the GOV'T picks winners and losers?

    1. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      "Monopolies are the problem. Not capitalism."

      How do you think monopolies are formed? The government is bought to ignore the problem while they ship the manufacturing overseas where a few factories will produce their products. They are in total control of the process from beginning to end. Who else could or would compete with that. 

      "Or has the law changed and ALLOWS crony capitalism where the GOV'T picks winners and losers?"

      Wake up and smell the coffee. This has been going on for years. Buy a politician and he remains faithful to your cause. Once bought they will not "out" themselves and they keep getting paid for their loyalty.

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago

    BTW:  Yes.
    So don't blame the system of capitalism, blame the breakdown of the rule of law.
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorial … m-bank.htm

  7. maxoxam41 profile image78
    maxoxam41posted 19 months ago

    I personally don't consider King as a model. I have no respect for someone that will leave his people to be kicked, beat by the local police without reacting. An eye for an eye is my motto. I hardly believe that the numeral superiority leads to defeat.
    Rioting is revolutionary. What did Russia, France do if not rioting? It led to the establishment of republics, or its idea, at least. Countries that didn't oppose their repressive government are the ones that are still suffering.
    King is for idealists. Realists know that freedom comes with a price.

    1. ahorseback profile image46
      ahorsebackposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      MLK,  was a true  leader  IN HIS TIME and  in today's ,   to not respect him for his non-violent approach is  speaking un-thought out opinions that are  beneath  any  conscious dignity .

      One ,   I think one truly had to have lived in a sixties  household to  understand the direction violent  popular uprisings were leading this  American society  .

      Two , violence , that typical of rioting ,  get's no one -nowhere .

      Three, . If it wasn't for  MLK  , race relations in America  , as skewed as they are at present , would not be anywhere near as meaningful , or at the level of general acceptance in our culture today .

  8. John Holden profile image60
    John Holdenposted 19 months ago

    All seem to be missing a very important point.
    Welfare is a product of (liberal) capitalism, not socialism.

    1. ahorseback profile image46
      ahorsebackposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      Now John !  How is it I agree with this statement ?

      1. gmwilliams profile image87
        gmwilliamsposted 19 months ago in reply to this

        Mr. Holden did make an EXCELLENT point!

      2. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 19 months ago in reply to this

        Probably because you misunderstand the purpose of welfare! The elderly and infirm aside, it's an act of oppression, not liberation.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
          Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          ...and socialism has nothing to do with some sort of welfare contribution through redistribution of hard earned individual $$$$$$…? from capable contributing individuals to somehow-less-contributing others?

          1. rhamson profile image76
            rhamsonposted 19 months ago in reply to this

            Define hard earned money compared to no opportunity to earn money. Hard earned money at what expense. Owning a store and selling product that was manufactured overseas in some sweat shop? Then turning around and selling it to somebody who barely ekes out a living at minimum wage because no other jobs are available. Maybe it is the doctor who spends incredible money for an education and has a lawyer come along and sue him for all he is worth because something went wrong. How did that lawyer work so hard to gain from others misfortunes?

            When you take away a persons means of making a living you enslave them to survive at whatever level they can. The very wealthy who shortcut the system to literally rob there customers buy taking their jobs and charging them to sell cheap goods is so American business that it makes you want to throw up.Only very extraordinary individuals get out and normally that is through some help with welfare, scholarships both educational and athletic. So the answer is threaten even this opportunity by cutting them off and in support of corporate fat cats getting even more quickly wealthier at the expense of those they hurt?

            1. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 19 months ago in reply to this

              How is it that only those selling the products that people demand get the blame for poverty in your world?  What about those buying and supporting those products?

              1. rhamson profile image76
                rhamsonposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                When did I use a term only? Only exists in your world of absolutes. The basis by which this system works is one that rewards those that provide the best product for its price. When you have entities (corporations) buying influence (NAFTA and the soon to be TPP) they create a way of circumventing those who would be manufacturing the products in their own economy that would buy the products. In doing so they eliminate the competition here and provide what we then have available. That is how we have to support them. It is not hard work, just a manipulation.

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                  It just seems so odd that I never see anyone posting on the root of the evils of NAFTA, TPP or any other form of importing goods.

                  That the root is people saving money instead of buying American is never, ever addressed.  Just those making a profit by providing what they want.  There is no "manipulation" and no "circumventing".  Just a demand for low cost products without any care of what the actual cost is.  Unless you are trying to say that John Q Public is "manipulating" corporations into finding lower cost methods of production?

                  1. ahorseback profile image46
                    ahorsebackposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                    I like this reasoning , My idea all along is that American's ARE far, far more responsible for their own future , finances ,politics ,  lifestyles and  the same for their children's !

                    We the people , have created this mess of a society that we live in by simply and dumbly  existing within it ,  without the shared responsibilities that we began with .  A far  more involved and conscientious effort to control our own future .  American's have willfully given away all the  individual economic and political control that we once held above all else .
                    Anyone  remember ,"Buy American "?
                    Anyone remember what it was like to involve yourself in local ,state and national voting ?
                    How do you like driving that foreign car ?
                    Buying that shirt made in Pakistan?
                    How do you like being owned by  foreign  elite ?

                    No matter who you ' blame it all on ',  the faults lie entirely within our own apathetic  lack of involvement  in   maintaining  our own quality of life .

                  2. rhamson profile image76
                    rhamsonposted 19 months ago in reply to this

                    Katherine unwittingly alluded to the problem earlier in that through the use of overseas labor and elimination of manufacturing jobs in America in search of cheaper products the corporations have essentially created monopolies in that their goods are exclusively on the shelves. Only one domestic sneaker company continues to stand amidst the competition pouring in from China and South East Asia. Globalization has aced and continues to oust the American worker. Just because I am seemingly the only one to you bringing this up does not make it any less relevant. I am simply amazed at the apathy people have and the absolute ignorance they have of their governments workings. I as you do not trust the government to make the necessary decisions to turn our country around. But in the same breath I do not trust the corporations as they pervert the access they have towards trade and legal wrangling through campaign donations. What is even more dangerous is that the rug has been pulled out from under us and further threats to our sovereignty is in line for us unless we act. The politicians know how to divert our attention and are trying to tug at us to do more about abortion, gay marriage and alien welfare issues while they sneak through legislation like the TPP. The whole argument can be settled through the vote but low and behold Congress decides what and how they vote on any particular issue or law. Why is that would be the better question rather than arguing about why no one knows of the TPP and the negative effects of NAFTA.

            2. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
              Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago in reply to this

              They are not allowed to "short-cut the system." What happened to the safeguards. Thats where the problem lies and the solution begins. Not by eradicating capitalism/ FREE market system…

                                                !  yikes  * *...within boundaries.* *   yikes !
              HINT:
              Read The Constitution!

              The Sherman Antitrust Act was one of the first Federal statutes to place limitations upon monopolies. Its main purpose was to prevent companies from garnering power as monopolies. It is employed to protect the consumers as opposed to the companies, as such practices involving monopolies are deemed "failures of the market". This Act required that the Government be responsible for policing the activity of trusts, companies, and organizations of the like if they are deemed in violation of the statute.

              http://constitution.laws.com/the-suprem … monopolies

          2. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 19 months ago in reply to this

            No more, and probably less so, than capitalism.

  9. ahorseback profile image46
    ahorsebackposted 19 months ago

    And the greatest curse  OF capitalism , at least this one , is Apathy .   As I talk of our system  in the 'day to day ' , I am amazed at how detached they all are .   We have become a nation of driveling criers  and yet .  "We the people ", created this mess  ourselves and  are the only ones who can change it .

    I would go so far as to predict that if we were to poll all rioters  about voter participation ;  I'd  bet that  more than half don't even vote !

    1. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      "I would go so far as to predict that if we were to poll all rioters  about voter participation ;  I'd  bet that  more than half don't even vote !"

      Same as the rest of America. Apathy is the reason. Why shouldn't apathy go along with frustration?

  10. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago

    "Buy a politician and he remains faithful to your cause. Once bought they will not "out" themselves and they keep getting paid for their loyalty." Rhamson

    Morals and values are other safeguards.
    You can't have a democratic republic without them.
    If we can't trust those we elect, well…
    its over.

  11. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago

    Basically we need to vote for someone who has no connection to The Globalists. So do NOT vote for either BUSH or CLINTON in the primaries!  (...we've had enough of these regimes already, anyway.)
    That's what I have to say.

  12. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 19 months ago

    …and lets get term limits for senators.

    1. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      I know you have heard me say this before: Term limits, publicly financed campaigns and lobby reform is what is needed to turn this ship around.

  13. ahorseback profile image46
    ahorsebackposted 18 months ago

    I think there are two ends of the spectrum when it comes to understanding the theories behind economic success and  "sharing the wealth ." in America .   

    One - there are those of  old school realizations that , we earn whatever we acquire in life AND  that it's well understood  that we may only get so far out of that which we DO earn . Hence  , one man  becomes a rich man  because of his exceptional abilities   and another  man  'get's by' okay with merely the limitations of his education and  his standing within his culture , limited only by  his  own abilities in earning a living.

    Two - there are those  who would have us all  believe that we ALL deserve  our fair  and absolutely equalized share of the same pie.  In other words , their idea of minimum wages  is that whatever it takes to acquire everything they want in life .  They  want a college education ,  a mac- mansion ,  a three car garage  and  the houseboat on the lake .

    The sad part is , is that number two really believes that whatever it takes out of everyone else's pocket book  to get what he needs is simply okay  and should be okay with you too !

    1. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      The gist of this conversation has been moved to:

      "Is the Call for Raising the Minimum Wage a Detriment?

      Just thought you should know in case you want to continue there without hijacking all these threads with the same topic. I will have an answer to your post there.

    2. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
      Kathryn L Hillposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Hi ahorseback.
      Warning: rambling thoughts on the matter:
      I agree with what you have said.
      However, as the jobs slip away, people want the gov't to compensate.
      Well, I say…
        ...when there is more compassion in the world from bosses on down, working and thriving will be easier.
      We all know greedy, rude, mean, bossy, controlling, tyrannical, nit-picky bosses, administrators, assistants, managers, etc.

      In my opinion, we are just not there as far as a conducive society which has the goal of helping oneself and helping others as well.
      Why?

      ...because of perceived employee incompetence.

      When I graduated from high school at seventeen I was fit for not much.

      BUT, thanks to the influence of my mother, I was able to proceed into a career choice and fund my own way through college…( My college degree helped me about as much as my high school degree).

      What will it take to raise quality individuals who have, discipline, humility, true intelligence, ambition, creativity, guts, and enthusiasm??

      Hint it must start early in life. All my life-skills and talents came from following my mother around from the age of four until…

      ...this very day, actually!!!!

      (Not following her around, of course… that stopped around fifteen, but what I learned during that early period was indelible and vital to my survival and competence in the world.
      BTW Happy Late Mother's day!)

  14. ahorseback profile image46
    ahorsebackposted 18 months ago

    Hi Kathryn ! I wish for you a perfect summer !.....  As you say  , "following mom" around helped you to learn , just as we all do or at least should do . We learn from our elders , that's for sure.  More than likely as you learned that you willingly picked up on a life lesson of  the good old puritan work ethics that she had too . Fortunately for you and I  that has worked out pretty well .

    I should say that AND your education ,  professionally useful or not  , is the stronghold of  making our way in this  capitalist society .   I  have recently read some of Henry Ford's  writings from 1926 !, In this book he neatly describes the advantages of  , one , a good individual  work ethic , two  a company that recognizes and rewards this within the individual .   And three ,   how  good men [women ] workers ,   a successful company  , and a government with little regulation or taxation  over either one , all three combined  make this country the success story that it is .   I haven't finished this reading  but I cannot help and compare the irony   of  a 1926 book of ideas and todays reality !

    He also , in so many ways ,  describes why financiers and bankers would [ and have they ever ] ruin this economy,  much like they have many European companies and actual governments .  He sights the pure evil  and  selfishness of economists , the  travesty and irony  of organized labor parties , AND he also  goes on to sight just how a - forty hour work week-  ,rather than fifty or sixty or seventy  hours , elevates a man , his household and his family to a level of comfort , that serves to actually make him a better worker !

    I do however,  believe  that the almost systematic  DE- regulation of corporate America , has and continues to erode  the once decent relationship between employer and employee in America .   I have witnessed , since the  eighties, a new mentality spread across the corporate world  , a new  attitude of  'make the employee fight for every benefit he has '  ,  It's almost as if  where once there was an attitude of ' rewarding good employees '  now has become ....."there's another man in line looking for a job ' so to hell with providing  benefits .    Have you noticed how many MORE  part time jobs there are now comparable to yesterday  ? Yeaa Obama-care.

    Jeeesh - talk about rambling thoughts , listen to me .

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
      Kathryn L Hillposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Love em ! Thanks ahorseback!
      PS I just watched the coolest movie called 50 to 1 about a horse called Mine That Bird.
      He won the Kentucky Derby but it had been a fifty to one shot. A true story. What surrounded the event was a lot of positive vibes and intentions. I recommend it for anyone.

  15. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 18 months ago

    PS I think it is not enough to say, go to college and get a career. I think it is vital for every parent, black, white and every race and ethnic background, to realize that what the parents are, will be passed on to their children and will influence them… more profoundly than schools and teachers.
    I believe whatever the parent is, is the most important influence in a child's life, especially in the early years.
    Children are not dolls to be spoiled and coddled. They must be seen as the potentially strong, clever and powerful people they will become.  They must learn the skills which will enable them to survive.
    If the parent is on welfare and working the system, and that is good enough for the parent, that is what the child will absorb into his very soul. What is good for mom/dad is good for me.

    Every parent needs to ask him/herself:
    What do I want for my kids.
    What is good enough for my kids?
    and be that.
    ...and let them tag along, if possible.
    Talk to them about your job, your work, no matter what that work is. Discuss the the trials and tribulations of your work days. Teach them the skills you have. Tutor them and mentor them however you can. Encourage their hobbies and endeavors/ especially the ones they have an innate interest in.
    Then, when their friends are rioting and running amok, they will have better things to do and think about.
    MUCH better,

    I would say.

    1. gmwilliams profile image87
      gmwilliamsposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000!!!

  16. ahorseback profile image46
    ahorsebackposted 18 months ago

    I just read a hub about  raising children as "free range children ",   ,  I almost commented at length about the deliberate un-hinging of some kind of  instilling some discipline in the scheduling , in behaviors both public and private . ALL  people's social or private  behaviors today , young or older , are  absolutely effective to everyone else around them.

    Most rioting is simply "wilding out ",   And every time I talk to some younger person in college I am amazed at the  sophomoric maturity level , the most repeated thing I have  realized ;   "  I don't really know what I want to do later in life "........... Now , I do know what's going on in college dorms ,  In silence I often simply shake my head at the predictability of the response.

    These "Free range" attitudes in  our culture , the instant rewarding's of social media's ,  lack of  any personal life  discipline's , the creation of  'pick your own demons ' of  intellectual idealist's , where does it end ,  My message to our society ;   want to know the cause of America's  social ill's today ?  We have to look in the mirror !  It's all about that old adage, " How you gonna act "?

  17. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 18 months ago

    worth repeating:
      "I  have recently read some of Henry Ford's  writings from 1926 !, In this book he neatly describes the advantages of  , one , a good individual  work ethic , two  a company that recognizes and rewards this within the individual .   And three ,   how  good men [women ] workers ,   a successful company  , and a government with little regulation or taxation  over either one , all three combined  make this country the success story that it is .   I haven't finished this reading  but I cannot help and compare the irony   of  a 1926 book of ideas and todays reality !

    He also , in so many ways ,  describes why financiers and bankers would [ and have they ever ] ruin this economy,  much like they have many European companies and actual governments .  He sights the pure evil  and  selfishness of economists , the  travesty and irony  of organized labor parties , AND he also  goes on to sight just how a - forty hour work week-  ,rather than fifty or sixty or seventy  hours , elevates a man , his household and his family to a level of comfort , that serves to actually make him a better worker !

    I do however,  believe  that the almost systematic  DE- regulation of corporate America , has and continues to erode  the once decent relationship between employer and employee in America .   I have witnessed , since the  eighties, a new mentality spread across the corporate world  , a new  attitude of  'make the employee fight for every benefit he has '  ,  It's almost as if  where once there was an attitude of ' rewarding good employees '  now has become ....."there's another man in line looking for a job ' so to hell with providing  benefits ." ahorseback

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      rhamsonposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Instead of hijacking this thread I have opened a new one to address these conversations at :

      Is the Call for Raising the Minimum Wage a Detriment?

      If you want to share with us over there we can leave this thread to the discussion on RIOTS.

      Thanks,

      Rhamson.

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        ahorsebackposted 18 months ago in reply to this

        Maybe if your intention is to direct the flow of the conversations on forums , you might make your part of the conversation a hub . That way rhamson , you can control completely the direction and  flow of it's intended meaning!

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          rhamsonposted 18 months ago in reply to this

          I apologize for thinking you wanted to be included in the change this thread had taken by redirecting you to the other new thread. It was done out of respect for Rhema Word the originator of this thread. If you wish to continue here in this thread I will leave you to it. My intent was to be inclusive and not controlling. Sorry.

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            ahorsebackposted 18 months ago in reply to this

            Not a problem , I tend , sometimes , to wander from the intended thread  ,  it's a Pesky little thing called  ranting !  No apology needed .

 
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