The principle the constitution of the Confederacy was founded upon:
"Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and moral condition." (Vice President Alexander Stephens, 1861)
Though never officially adopted as the national flag of the confederacy, the confederate battle flag, commonly referred to as the Confederate Flag, has come to represent the confederacy and its ideals. It was adopted by the Klu Klux Klan at the turn of the 20th century as it symbolised the same principle: "the negro is not equal to the white man". And it continues to be used as the preferred symbol of hatred today:
As of now this symbol of a pro-slavery South during the civil war, is currently flying at full staff (all other official flags are flying at half staff, but a state law prevents this flag from being lowered) outside the State House in S.C. Isn't it time this symbol of racism and hatred was removed from public buildings and placed in a museum where it belongs?
In consideration of the White South, many say that it is a symbol of historical heritage. It was the South/Confederacy's finest hour. The men were courageous, brave and resourceful, while fighting for all the wrong things. Living in the southeast US, I have seen this battle standard flown from the back of cars and pickups. These guys are telling us all that they remain "unreconstructed', after 150 years. I don't have time to waste trying to demonize these people, I have bigger fish to fry. I am more interested in what goes on in the South Carolina statehouse and in Washington in regard to racial justice than to be concerned over the symbolism that a piece of cloth has for a few people.
But putting it in a prominent place on the state house grounds and public buildings is not appropriate no more than my insisting that the multicolor afro-banner go there. The state and its taxpayer dollars representing all of its residents are sending the wrong message. The flag is not the state flag and is not representative of all of South Carolina. Yes, it should be retired to the museum.
The confederacy never became a nation. It didnt bring slavery to america. Or invent it.slavery in America is from. 1501 to 1865..what flag flew in that time.it? It wasnt the stars and bars. It was the stars and stripes. And various European nations flags.
This is not the stars and bars, it is the Confederate battle flag. The stars and bars is a different flag altogether.
Both are symbols of a failed rebellion, that was founded on the principle of racism and fought for the preservation of slavery. And you are right, the confederacy never became a nation, so why should its battle flag be flown in front of buildings paid for by taxpayers? They are part of the country's history, so they should be preserved in museums, but not flown in front of public buildings. What's the difference between this and a German town flying a Swastika in front of its local goverment building. That's part of history too right?
I believe there is a law in Germany and Austria making it illegal to fly the Swastika. I'm not sure that its even on display on museum pieces, like aircraft.
Could you possible expand on why the battle flag is considered racist for me, a UK reader? To be perfectly honest its a flag I most closely with associate with the Dukes of Hazzard rather than anything else, and my A-level history supposedly taught me that there were slavery states that sided with the Union in the US Civil War.
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The Confederate flag represented seceding states who had a fundamental objective of continuing the institution of slavery. This rebellion was crushed at a great cost. Those that resented the outcome of the war and were determined to keep the new freeman in a stage of bondage, saw the Confederate flag as their symbol of resistance to being "reconstructed" in the aftermath. It was much used as a symbol of racist intimidation by those who resisted Black aspirations for equality well after the War's end. The black community continues to see this resistance as a source of hostility
I've always believed that the confederate flag should be outlawed from flying anywhere in public . The worst war losses in American history were in the war between the states . There should be no flag of the confederacy flown at ANY state house ! Both the North and the South suffered extensive losses of young men and , for that ! I have lived in the south and feel ashamed whenever I 've seen that flag .
My things have reached a tipping point. There seems to be quite a few people suggesting that the flag be removed now.
There should be no flag but the United States flag flown at any state house period.
Its just time ! It simply represents too much negativity to too many people . ! Free speech or not ! The rights of speech has to have been written to include some sense of responsible and compassion in that very free speech !
No, it isn't time for your Orwellian society. It never is.
I would think that common sense might dictate that there are times when liberal mindset of "anything goes " just goes away ! Perhaps even out of simple and common decency , and yet there are those who will always come full circle with the regurgitation of such senseless drivel .
Here is how the slain pastor may have felt about the Confederate flag. Surprised me.
http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/whoa-this … rate-flag/
Question: How will outlawing the Confederate flag prevent the next shooting of this nature or improve the lives of black Americans?
The flag is not the problem. If it was then the murder rates in places like Chicago and Detroit should be nil.
If the State of South Carolina's gov't wishes to take it down from the Statehouse, and the people of that state agree, then so be it. But do not try to pretend that the problem is a flag.
Great, put it to a vote. Are so obtuse to not see what is going on? I don't want that symbol and what it represents on the statehouse that represent me and the taxes that I pay. It is time to retire the old rag and not give a prominent place in the public square. No one is outlawing it, you want to fly it from your pickup truck, ahead. I don't care if it sold and you can buy it. Just fly it from your own yard. Yes, the flag and its prominence is one of the problems.
If that is what the people of the state want, then yes, they have the right. I will also mention that it is the ethnic minority, female, republican governor of that state that is having it removed.
That being said, the flag is not even a little bit of the problem, to state otherwise is utter nonsense.
Also, Amazon has suspended sales of the Confederate Battle Flag yet continues to sell Nazi and ISIS flags. Hypocrite much?
I guess in a perfect world , we would ALL love one country ! American's everywhere would feel secure , patriotic , part of one nation , one people , one faith . But , it's just not to be . Like all countries , many ,many of them anyway , eventually America will fall ., the problem is though , I believe it will fall from within !
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