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Pope: Poor are sacrificed on 'the altar of money'

  1. Live to Learn profile image81
    Live to Learnposted 17 months ago

    I've never understood the idea of Popes and such; but I have to like this guy. And I love this quote. I also cheered when I read he called unfettered capitalism the dung of the devil.

    I would hope that, even the staunchest right wing republicans could see that we are lumbering forward in a system that is broken. I know I say this for very personal reasons. We in the West have benefited greatly from this current model and more than benefiting; we have all dreamed of being at the top of it but if it tumbles directionless we will be at the bottom of it.  I believe since we offered this model to the world we should be at the forefront of fixing it; because if we don't it will bite us in the butt and permanently sideline our great commission of being a beacon of hope to those who dream of freedom.

    We know that free enterprise and capitalism which enhances the lives of the individuals has been hijacked by corporate interests and it is now little more than a machine designed to rape the world and beggar us all. It controls countries, commands armies and holds us hostage in its greedy claws. It's control of the media allows it to diligently work toward convincing us to point our fingers at each other; never to question its legitimacy. None of us voted for this system. It has slowly and insidiously built its web across the world.

    More and more Americans are struggling to maintain the facade of wealth. Even with our personal financial woes we live better than most of the world yet instead of looking at the situation squarely and fairly; we focus on how to ensure this broken system lumbers on because it is specifically designed to tickle the 'what's in it for me' side of all of us. Even in a great upheaval we would, as a nation, rise to the American spirit and help each other survive the storm; but I do fear the storm is coming.

    The great experiment of communism failed miserably. Socialism has also given us little room to hope it could be an answer. Unfettered capitalism as it is practiced worldwide must someday succumb to its Achilles heel of unbridled and immoral greed.

    Where do we, as a world community, go from here?

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

      The Pope ask for one World Religion, the Muslims and American leaders ask for One World Order. The greed of group leaders and corporatism keep us busy fighting each other wail stealing money and running our lives. It's turned us into an over ego and unfriendly World. Like all abuses throughout world history they will
      crash and reset themselves for
      something better for most. Turn your cash into hardware like into  affordable
      housing , green energy and plant food
      gardens. The cities will be very
      dangerious, get away from them or bett
      er get away from North American. Stay
      away from cash if you can, it will
      someday be like toilet paper.

      1. Live to Learn profile image81
        Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        Agree with most of that. Getting away from North America confuses me. I have faith in the American citizen if not faith in our government. Maybe Canada is a little more dangerous.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          I have faith in America people, just not with oversizeme Corporations. Canada and Mexico is in Norrh America. I've an tiny eco village in Belize when the American dollar hits the Fan.

          Join me if you don't mind living.green. By then, might join the revolution.in order to return home.

          1. Live to Learn profile image81
            Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            Yes, I know Canada is that's why I mentioned it. I always think of Mexico as Central American although yes, part of it is above the line.

            I'll skip Belize thanks. We've got everything to live here green just fine, if need be.

            1. Castlepaloma profile image22
              Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

              Wish you a lot of luck, still stay away from the cities. I won't bother sending you a post card, because somebody going to kill the postman.

              1. Live to Learn profile image81
                Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                You may be watching too many old movies.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                  Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  Ok, likely there will be some internet.

                  My gut feeling, tells me it's not going to be wroth it, your better off somewhere esle until it cools off.

    2. colorfulone profile image87
      colorfuloneposted 17 months ago in reply to this

      The storm is coming and it will be "a great upheaval".

      All it will take is an economic collapse, wide spread civil unrest, greater illegal drug problems, more terrorist attacks on American soil, and a vast number of people protesting in the United States against American interference in foreign countries (like Vietnam). Those properties are alive in the US under antagonistic circumstances. I think it is just a matter of time when one of these pulls the trigger.  Then, it will be too late.

    3. A Thousand Words profile image80
      A Thousand Wordsposted 17 months ago in reply to this

      What a wonderful post! It's like you reached into my proverbial soul and pulled out the words I couldn't manage. Not a word I could disagree with and a question I've wanted answered.

      1. Live to Learn profile image81
        Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        Thanks.

    4. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 17 months ago in reply to this

      "Unfettered capitalism as it is practiced worldwide must someday succumb to its Achilles heel of unbridled and immoral greed."

      With an apathetic and ill informed electorate we are reduced to knee jerk reactions to the issues. Where the importance of a flag is much more important than a trade agreement that will destroy more jobs we deserve the results of our stupidity. It is like disarming the people and then systematically going back and taking all they own without any resistance. The emotional and inflammatory misdirection of our news sources with the short sighted psyche of our citizens is what has made this a reality. Unless we become wise to their tricks they will overtake not only our self determination but our personal wealth and well being.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
        Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        We are not used to doing things for anyone but ourselves. Certainly not each other.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          True freedom for me is when your serving others and do not need think about yourself.

          Too bad for most people where they must service themselves first because today we are too busy surviving. It comes off selfish and many are force to cheat to make ends meet.

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      gdl49744posted 17 months ago in reply to this

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      1. rhamson profile image76
        rhamsonposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        Great! What's the benefit package consist of? Any healthcare? How about a retirement or pension program? If they get slow what about any unemployment benefits? Do they do your payroll deductions? My Norton anti virus software blocked the page. Why is that?

    6. Credence2 profile image86
      Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

      Look at who and what political group and party are concerned about the Pope stepping out of his bounds with his criticism of unfettered capitalism and his support of the science associated with climate change. The Right would be happy if he came to America with the standard and empty platitudes that do not hold anyone accountable.

      1. rhamson profile image76
        rhamsonposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        Credence2, you keep making all these arguments an us and them theme. Obama was backed by Wall Street who in turn suffered no appreciable ill will after the bail out. Georgey porgy started the whole process at the end of his Presidency to help his friends in high places. Who was right in that case. Both wanted no one to pay for it criminally.

        The very rich who own our government and are the ones that are considered well above those they are supposed to serve. By injecting an argument not germane to the reality only deflects the responsibility from where it is created. The government is not ours to run. We don't vote, attend to the real threats (as opposed to the inflammatory ones such as race, abortion and gay issues) or responsibly participate in making good choices through becoming knowledgeable in all the ramifications of our governments decisions. The animosity may be a real issue but it only defrays from the argument.

        1. Credence2 profile image86
          Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

          Regardless, RH, I still say that there is a difference between the aspirations of a Bernie Sanders and a Ted Cruz. Putting it all in the same stew is what the enemy, that you keep refering to ultimately wants. To not be able to put a finger on who and what your fighting, amalgamate it all, they continue to remain obscure, unidentified and consequently unassailable.

          Despite pessimism, there are people in prominent positions who desire to get it right, but we have to identify extol and support these people. I know who owns the Government, but to assume that everyone that walks the corridors in Washington are all captives is in error.

          Are we not talking the Pope and his postions? We disagree and I say that there are differences and they are no subtle.

          1. rhamson profile image76
            rhamsonposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            There are indeed differences between the many actors on the stage. Hillary is different from Bernie as Bernie comes from a socialist agenda while Hillary is very much a Capitalist.

            But the Congress is the defining crucible when the vote is on. What you are saying in essence is that if we pick at the cancer with our finger we shall eventually cure the patient. The systematic infection is what is holding the patient back from being cured. The cancer must be removed and the patient is being fed horrible information to make an informed choice. This information is coming from the disease rather than the doctor. If as you say there are those who extol and promote the change necessary for the cure they are a small amount indeed. As long as they can remain in power for life that is what is at the center of their purpose.

            Term limits, publicly financed campaigns and lobby reform is our only hope. We are the hope for change, not them.

            1. Credence2 profile image86
              Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

              Then lets get behind Bernie and people like him. What is the alternative, the problem with letting the patient die, is we all die with it. There must be a constant struggle, a balance of power, if you will between the haves and the have nots. It is the fundamental nature of the economic system in which we are immersed in. Your suggestions as to how to contain the "cancer", I agree with, however the forces that resist these solutions are the same that promote the Capitalist class and are not represented by true blue folks like Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, that fight for the people without compromise. So, lets look carefully at who, individuals and groups are holding up the show. Fight and resist those that resist appropriate change and add your support to those that do. Not to be partisan, but if Hillary is sleeping with the enemy, then she is part of the problem and not the solution.

              I am not so dismal about the possibilities, I met Ted Kennedy many years ago and followed his career. In spite of the family wealth, there was never a man that was more dedicated to the needs of working people in Congress.

              The enemy rejoices over  the cancer, as a matter of fact, it is counting on it to do in the patient, destroying the concept of what America should be

              In the meantime, we are on a slippery slope that tilts in favor of the Capitalist class, the best I may be able to do is to keep the cancer patient alive until a general cure can be applied.

              1. rhamson profile image76
                rhamsonposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                But with Sanders socialist views we sport a hot topic rather than a compromise. Most think of socialism as a cancer that rewards those who refuse to work for their own share. That in of itself is incendiary to say the least. With all the rhetoric over how liberal Warren is there is little chance of getting the misinformed to even consider her as an option. You see the argument cannot support the facts as they are sent askew by the PC police or the information blockers who want to defer the truth long enough to get their agenda through. The system is the problem and not the candidates. The system has been perfected to gobble up facts and reasoning in favor of rhetoric and deception. It does not matter who is right. What matters is who is more powerful.

                There has to be a major change in the way we carry on the business of our country before we shall see any significant change. We are the problem and we are the cure.

                1. Credence2 profile image86
                  Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  Making Sanders and Warren wild eyed liberal activists is part of the propaganda of the 'Capitalist class'

                  We already are 'socialist' and you can't run a government with a society of over 300 millions without it.

                  It is not about socialism, it is about the capitalist class wanting to keep everything to and for themselves. What is it they say, "capitalist profits and socialist losses'? That is what has been going on here. Socialism is a loaded word, but it is not as intimidating as they would have you think.

                  they have even moderates/progressives recoiling at its very mention. Yes, the system is the problem, but only people can destroy and dismantle the system, because it is not going to deactivate itself. We take what ever tools in the tool box to impede if not halt its progress.

                  Major change is possible only through revolt, who is ready to deal with that? All the suggestions you have made toward significant change need to be implemented within the framework as to how government operates. Without resistance, the enemy will take everything, and I mean 'everything'. I always say that a small chance of populous movement in the right direction, is better than none at all.

                  1. rhamson profile image76
                    rhamsonposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                    "but only people can destroy and dismantle the system, because it is not going to deactivate itself."

                    My point exactly. But with us and them arguments you will have nothing but push and push back arguments centered on ideals rather than actions. Compromise, yes that dirty little word is the bane of the argument. Catch phrases and rally cries are what debaters and baters use on both sides of the argument.

                    For example would you agree to term limits? If not why? What about publicly funded campaigns? Why or why not? And lobby reform? Why or why not? Careful now it is a trick question as to where your loyalties lie.

        2. Credence2 profile image86
          Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

          Yes, we could have put in either McCain or Romney that would have folded up like a lawn chair before the Wall Street Money changers by a factor of 10 fold. Yes, the rich and powerful rule, haven't they always? So what's new? Short of revolution, what is the solution except to continue pulling on ourside of the rope in the tug of war? If we give up and let go, they win by default.

          Obama's attempt at the stimulus at the beginning was an effort to build the economy from the bottom up, not just simply hand money to the wealthy with the hope that they will invest in society,

          There is still is a concept of the lesser of two evils. When in reality it is unlikely that you are going to get an ideal outcome, you take what you can get. Good work is accomplished when you can put constant impediments to the designs and plans of the Capitalist class that we all know are running things.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
            Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            The self (only) serving Elite class. Stop blaming a system. Those people who take unfair advantage of the capitalistic system, by breaking laws using "bailouts, bonuses and backroom deals from Washington to Wall Street," are at fault. Not capitalization itself ...
            unless you have a better system?

            Like money trees in every back yard.

            Quote from the book, It Takes a Pillage, by Naomi Prins

            1. Credence2 profile image86
              Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

              No, the self serving elite class is part of the Capitalist  class that seeks hegemony over us all. Those that take advantage of the capitalist system are a system to themselves and a powerful one at that. Having power to the extent that the very idea of Capitalism as an economic system has now come into question.

              My idea is that Capitalism is ok with rigid controls and regulations that the Capitalist class, those that profit from the status quo, would never agree to.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                Laws are laws and must be followed. It is up to the people to see to it laws, such as monopoly laws, are followed. WE need to call out those who are guilty of crony capitalism. You doubt the power of the people?
                Thats the problem.
                We are a bunch of baa-ing sheep.
                The fault is with us.

                1. Credence2 profile image86
                  Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  The people elect President who is in charge of the Executive Branch of the Government who job it is to enforce the laws. You, Kathryn L. Hill, cannot 'call out' anybody.

                  I need to elect a man or woman at all levels of the executive, federal and state that are inclined to pursue and prosecute those that violate these laws.
                  There is your "power of the people".

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                    No, you are wrong.
                    The power of the people is very underestimated and I will repeat: that is the problem.

          2. Credence2 profile image86
            Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

            Unfortunately, as part of our system, people have the right to be dumb and misinformed. It is up to them to choose to be and do otherwise.

            The independent vote has never been large enough to move the kinds of mountains that needed to be moved. To get more people into the independent column, those pigs are going to have to learn to sing, regardless. Otherwise, it will be difficult to dislodge the two party system anytime soon. So, for the time being you will continue to hold your nose when you go to the ballot box.

            The Constitution provides for removal of any official convicted of high crimes or misdemenors. But, try getting the cases exposed, let alone, the participants charged and prosecuted. How many people do you remember that were removed from Congress for misconduct? Asking them to police themselves and preen themselves from the miscreants among them is as futile as washing a turd. So how do you get the folks that make the laws, make laws to hold themselves accountable in a more reliable way? This problem has been around since the founding of the republic and we can only attack from the  periphery. Controlling big money influence, term limits, making the legislators more accountable to the people they serve are solutions that can applied here and now.

            What Mr. Lincoln has quoted is basically my position here. This mass of people are still infected with ignorance and apathy, that is currently our impediment to making the needed changes.

            1. rhamson profile image76
              rhamsonposted 17 months ago in reply to this

              "Asking them to police themselves and preen themselves from the miscreants among them is as futile as washing a turd. So how do you get the folks that make the laws, make laws to hold themselves accountable in a more reliable way"

              I see from your post you have not investigated my link to the grass roots movement that precludes the slime balls from voting themselves into term limit legislation.

              Article Five of the United States Constitution describes the process whereby the Constitution may be altered. Altering the Constitution consists of proposing an amendment or amendments and subsequent ratification.
              Amendments may be adopted and sent to the states for ratification by either:
                  Two-thirds (supermajority) of both the Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States Congress;
              OR
                  By a national convention assembled at the request of the legislatures of at least two-thirds (at present 34) of the states.

              To become part of the Constitution, an amendment must be ratified by either (as determined by Congress):
                  The request of legislatures of three-fourths (at present 38) of the states;
              OR
                  State ratifying conventions in three-fourths (at present 38) of the states.

              http://www.termlimitsforuscongress.com/

              1. Credence2 profile image86
                Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

                Thanks for providing the data and link. I certainly do not trust the congress to initiate the effort to amend the Constitution to limit its own power. If the state legislatures could take the lead...

            2. Live to Learn profile image81
              Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

              I would like to say that assuming people are dumb and ill informed is probably not completely fair. I think many people are simply so tired of politics as usual that they don't believe their voice matters, their vote makes a difference, or that there is any hope to change this. I, for one, have lost all faith in our government. I don't think it is for the people or by the people. I don't see how anything, short of a revolution, will change this.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                Sometimes you sound like me talking, except you write better.

                1. Live to Learn profile image81
                  Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  Aww. That's so sweet. smile

              2. colorfulone profile image87
                colorfuloneposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                A revolution?  Of what kind and what magnitude would you consider acceptable.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                  Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  Call me when the revolution gets started, might be in deep hiding by then,

                2. Live to Learn profile image81
                  Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  Well, I'm not anything like the Tea Partyers I know who keep talking like they're all amassing an arsenal. I would never advocate a violent overthrow. I liked the start of the Occupy Movement. That's my idea of a revolution. Just take to the streets and stay there until they can't ignore you any longer. But, it would need serious leadership and clear, concise goals which were the voice of the majority of the people. Occupy came out with some loopy ideas midstream.

                  1. colorfulone profile image87
                    colorfuloneposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                    Aw! A peaceful sit-in protest is the only kind I would promote. I could not leave the peace and quiet of the cool wilderness forests to go into a hot asphalt and concert jungle to join a crowd of people.

                    #Occupy

              3. Credence2 profile image86
                Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

                I am not saying that they are dumb and not informed. My point is that whatever the solution, the people are going to be intrically involved. We do not have the option to be apathetic and listless in the face of what is going on. You can bet that the adversaries of the democratic process, the money changers are counting on it and use it as the tool to allow their small numbers to control the multitudes. If we want to change things, really, we are going to have to get interested, or be led to slaughter by those who could not care less that you have a choice, they rule by default.

                1. Live to Learn profile image81
                  Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  I completely agree with that.

                2. rhamson profile image76
                  rhamsonposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  I totally agree with this. The time to sit back and watch is over. We need to fix the system so that the criminals cannot subvert what is good for all of us and not a few.

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    If we got into the habit of thinking of others, the world would be a better place … for ourselves and each other.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

      I was in the Capital building not too long ago ... well a year or two after the event of 911.
      Everything is open. You can watch a court in session and march right in to speak to your representative. Every door says Welcome.
      Our representatives are supposed to be working for their constituents.
      The failure we have is communications at the local level where the power of communities and individuals lie: the number of concerned citizens.

    2. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

      According to Nomi Prins
      We have to be louder in our demand for real change:
      No Fed secrecy.
      No treasury backing toxic assets.
      No merging banks take money to finance bad deeds.
      No banks that mingle consumer deposits with risky bets.
      No securities packaged with so many layers they are impossible to to understand, let alone regulate or value.
      No acceptance of the idea that free markets mean no constraints.
      No public dime supporting private losses.   

      ...and she finishes the paragraph with this belief:

      " We can achieve this (real change) just as US citizens did in the past. A flood of visible public outrage provoked necessary and stabilizing changes in the 1930's, and the president, the treasury secretary, and Congress combined their strengths to reform banking."

      She says, today we need to flood Congress with with our opinions:
      "We need better than equal treatment for people over banks."
      Our representatives need to know we will NOT vote for them again if they continue taking away from our future.

      She says:
      "Email them, march before their offices, vote against the ones who don't represent you and tell them why. Start petitions. Flood their Facebook inboxes. Silence is too costly and unfair. Revolutionize regulation…"

      1. Credence2 profile image86
        Credence2posted 17 months ago in reply to this

        But you got the Koch Brothers and the money changers making sure that the voice of the people are drowned out in the din of falling coins.

        I suppose that if there is enough rage from the electorate that can be focused like a laser on key issues, the reps may listen if enough of their constituency makes the point that their numbers are enough to insure that if they don't comply they will not be reelected.

        The scenario in the 1930's was quite different, an almost universal cry for change made all the politicians get into line, can we ever again create that kind of urgency?

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
          Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          You suppose very correctly.

        2. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          History will show us, people need to hit a level of abuse in order to change things. Our energy has keeps being lowered for the pass 30 Years.It has 10 or more years to go, before "WE WON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!" Then things will get better.

          1. Live to Learn profile image81
            Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            We can't get to the "WE WON'T TAKE ANYMORE" stage until we stop being afraid of each other and realize that we are being pitted against each other in order to make it harder to get to that stage.

            I think if we could just start up a third party it might work. I think both the Democratic and Republican party are so broken they cannot effectively lead positive change.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
              Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

              The third party has been tried in the past, but it just doesn't work. The third party just ends up dividing the majority vote.
              What we need is a Republican or a Democrat President who really understands a thing or two and follows his convictions AND the Rules.
              And respects/understands above all else, The Constitution.

              1. Live to Learn profile image81
                Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                I do know that has been a bomb in the past. But, I honestly don't see either of the parties making positive change. It's their system. They have consistently proven they have absolutely no desire to change it.

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                  Maybe it would be best if we all refused to vote or pay taxes.
                  We would have to be on the same page and thats the hard part.
                  (PS do you really own a company or does your husband step in occasionally?)

                  1. Live to Learn profile image81
                    Live to Learnposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                    I don't know that refusing to vote would work, although I have wondered what would be the outcome of that. And not paying taxes wouldn't work either. They'd simply rake the money out of our bank accounts. I'm a firm believer that we will have to have a peaceful revolution of some sort. But, again, we have to find a way to stop being so fearful of each other. I've found (except for far right wing republicans and far left wing democrats) it doesn't matter how you label yourself we all are pretty much fed up with the same things.

                    My husband is an integral part of the company. We each have our hats and we have been known to interchange a few of them as the need arose but his forte is public relations and I handle the rest.

                    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

                      ...very cool to be able to work together like that!

          2. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
            Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            Repeating:
              "Or will we be lulled into complacency once again so eager for a return to "normal" that we fail to stop the same systemic cascade of reckless and shady practices and greed from devastating us all over again?"
            Unfortunately, we are definitely prone to complacency. What do we do about that?

    3. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

      The final paragraph from the book, It Takes a Pillage:

      "We must ask ourselves: Do we have what it takes to stop the financial insanity?
      Or will we be lulled into complacency once again so eager for a return to "normal" that we fail to stop the same systemic cascade of reckless and shady practices and greed from devastating us all over again? The answer must be: No we won't! Its past time to flex our will and end the next pillage before it starts."

      http://www.nomiprins.com

    4. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

      But the issues need to be isolated.
      For instance, Nomi says:
      "If anyone in the oval office, in Congress, at the Federal reserve, In the Treasury department, or in the offices of any regulatory agency had done any serious preventative work, had exposed the murky Wall Street practices, before they blew up in our collective faces, had contained reckless trading, and borrowing activities, or had rendered financial firms, smaller and more transparent,
      -if any of these people had cared- the crash (of 08) could have been avoided, or at least would have been less severe. Millions of jobs and millions of dollars would have been spared. Billions of dollars of  bonuses wouldn't have rewarded the mostly legal but ridiculously risky practices that had such devastating results."

      PS She warns it could happen again.  We have to stay vigilant. She says that period of economic turmoil and global financial destruction was created by the banking sector with the help of Washington.

    5. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

      < "They'd simply rake the money out of our bank accounts.">
      Oh no …  I believe you are wrong about that!
      If they do that, I would definitely give the f up on this Country!!!!
      I would move to Costa Rica.

    6. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

      Rolling Stone put Kim Kardashian on the cover… that might be reason enough to move to Costa Rica.
      http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen … -1.2292104

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

        Forget those leaders, they are puppets on strings. Find your own way, each one of us will be better off.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 17 months ago in reply to this

          Allow government to run the small stuff, we the people need to make the major decision again

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
            Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago in reply to this

            - yes, indeed.

    7. ahorseback profile image47
      ahorsebackposted 17 months ago

      The P.C. crowd loves to hate capitalism ,  Perhaps  the fact that its the only viable economy left  for people to operate fairly within a market --that will still allow for the advancement of  a  motivated individual ,-- should tell us that , given its survival and the envy of much of the rest of the  world , we should focus on improving it , rather than furthering  the faults , such as fake credit  for housing loans !       The unrestricted  and threatening  credit card industry ,  These two , being the biggest threat to its collapse !

      Take back your government -  and once again own the potential of this county!

      Stop this Two party mentality and look beyond  the defeatist partisanship.

     
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