So, who didn’t realize this pathetic republican scheme from day one? Are you upset? Angry at BACKWARD conservative republicans for the total waste of your TAX money? Republican Kevin McCarthy seemed to inadvertently expose the marathonISH 500 day long “Benghazi Witch Hunt” for what it truly is, a disingenuous political attack on Hillary Clinton ~ Punishment for the GOP?
The GOP are beyond punishment. It needs to be updated and replaced with a different political party, altogether - maybe even split into a couple of different ones. American didn't always have these two parties no matter how old they are. They can be altogether replaced. I know I wouldn't miss it.
Hey Misfit Chick ~
Even though it has done a pretty good job of decimating itself, my proposal is to abolish the Regressive, Obstructionist, Backward Motion Republican Party all together ~
They are completely DEVOID of innovative NEW ideas, NO NEW proposals designed to enrich the lives of the Majority of Americans etc ~ Commence a Politically Motivated Special Congressional Committee using TAX PAYER FUNDS to attempt to cripple a Democratic Campaign? They got ya covered on that one ~
Progressive Liberals become JUST as regressive obstructionists when we decide that OUR ideas are better than anyone else's - even the GOP's. The truth is, when Republicans & Democrats work together to solve things - there IS the potential to come through with a reasonable compromise that does work for most people. They ALMOST/kinda have something like that going with Healthcare Reform when a couple of Republicans joined the reform because so many people were insisting on it. It turned out to be both better and worse in some ways because of the POLITICAL (as opposed to healthcare) compromises. We are never going to change power-hungry people. And make no mistake, Democrats and Independents can be just as underhanded and dishonest when it really comes down to it. Elimination isn't the answer - change is.
Misfit Chick ~
The two parties are like Night & Day, Black & White, their respective VALUES are Completely Different ~ Democrats have Progressed Forward leaving the republicans to wallow aimlessly in a state of OBSTRUCTIONISM & Deplorable Political Schemes like the Benghazi Witch Hunt ~
Progressive Democrats fight for Strengthening Veteran's Benefits, Equal Pay for Women, Women's Health Care Choices, Affordable Student Loans, Strengthening Social Security & Medicare, Raising the Minimum Wage, Equal Rights for Gays ~ Conservative Republicans Oppose ALL of these fundamental VALUES ~ Republicans are indeed the party of the WEALTHY & Corporate Interests ~ They have NO innovative ideas because they were not elected to "Brainstorm" and the GOP is perpetually "Stuck in REVERSE" ~
Unfortunately, there is NO common Ground found on the MAJORITY of issues ~
And yet, most of us have Republican friends with wonky ideas whom we love, dearly. That's all I'm saying... They don't get anywhere with all the hateful bs they do and say; and neither will we.
There is no hate within Progressives ~
Despite the perpetual obstruction from conservative republicans, we've still managed to stay focused and accomplish many great things for Americans in the last 7 years ~
Progressive Democrats have begun to Raise the Minimum Wage for workers state by state, $15 per hour to start while republican Scott Walker continues to bash labor unions ~ We have won Equal Marriage Rights for Gay Americans despite despicable bigoted responses from republicans ~ We have implemented OBAMACARE which is the first critical step toward a "Single Payer Health Care at Birth" system ~ 17 MILLION more Americans now have Health Insurance because of the ACA ~
The list of GOOD righteous things Progressive Democrats have accomplished for Americans is impressive, while BACKWARD republicans continue to waste Tax Payer Funds on Politically Motivated Schemes like the Benghazi Committee Sham & Carry on Delusional "PRETEND" wars on Christmas ~
Really... there is no hate within progressives? Just because you say so after everything you said about conservatives, above?
Yeah, there is hate everywhere - or at the very least, a whole heck of a lot of resentment. Changes come very slowly, and the GOP is called that for a reason - they have been around for a very long time. It's a big red boat practically being forced to change. That doesn't come easily. And to be angry with people for not being able to instantaneously alter their ingrained belief set is illogical. All we can do, is keep doing what we can to prove that our ideas are 'more correct'; and hope more of them jump on board to give input and possibly make them better. It's called 'being optimistic'.
Misfit Chick ~
Republicans have been in a PERPETUAL state of Denial, False Debate, Obstruction, & Backward Motion for many years ~ At some point the United States of America must MOVE ON & Progress with or without them ~
The Benghazi Committee SCAM perpetrated by republicans exclusively as a Political Tool, is in fact the most lengthy pseudo-investigation in our history ~ Longer in duration than the genuine JFK or Iran/Contra hearings ~ Just another waste of OUR Tax Monies ~
Unfortunately, PROGRESS is not defined as government providing support from cradle to grave, all at the largess of the politician. It may be the liberal dream, but it is not PROGRESS, just as confiscation of wealth is not.
Which is why the term "progressive" is so comical when applied to the party wishing just that.
Typical republican response ~
Unwarranted whining about the Word & Concept of "UNITED" followed by Zero New Ideas ~
"Confiscation of Wealth" is one legal way to Re-Claim what is rightfully "We the Peoples" fortunes, but there are indeed other ways to begin the Transfer from the Greed Driven 1%, back to us, the people who actually earned it and deserve it ~
A continuance of Raising the Minimum Wage, Continuing to Support Labor Unions, Compelling Corporations to Pay for Employee (SLAVE) Health Care & Retirement, Taxing Hedge Funds & Wall Street Transactions, Capping CEO Pay etc ~ These ideas are just the begining of a NEW State of Equality where the Restricting Chains of Enslavement for the Working Class will begin to Loosen and Finally, one day be Expelled ~
1. Raise the minimum wage - No
2. Support labor unions - No
3. Encourage corporations to pay their workers who are not slaves. They already are.
4. Cap CEO Pay - No
6. Provide universal Health Care Insurance - No
5. Provide for Retirement. - We already have it
6. Tax hedge funds - Yes
7. Tax Wall Street transactions. - No
(The working class will become further enslaved if these No's ARE implemented.)
Yes, confiscation of wealth is legal as long as you have the power to make the laws. But that doesn't make it ethical or moral now does it? And to claim it is yours because someone else earned it doesn't either, but then that is the mark of a failed moral system and is common when greed overcomes right.
Yes, I understand that the idea that everyone "deserves" financial equality is new here, but it isn't new in the world. It has been tried over and over and always failed. But hey, let's do it again - it sounds good and we'll declare that we are the moral ones as we steal from others to finance our great ideals. A sop to our conscience as we discard our morals in favor of an ideal doomed to failure.
Morality, Ethics, Legalities?? ~
You really can't be serious wilderness ~ A Weirdo Ex-Hedge Fund Wall Street Operative who is obviously "PRETENDING" to be a CEO at Turig Pharma recently raised the price of an essential pill from $13 to an ASTRONOMIC GOUGE price of $750 !! ~ Reports indicate the cost is about $1 to make each tablet ~ Talk about a Detrimental Effect on Health Care Costs ~ Illegal? Perhaps, and it absolutely should be ~ Hillary Clinton, Progressive Democrat Slammed this guy, did he DIAL Back his attempted scheme? We'll soon find out ~
NICE to know your FAILED Free Market Capitalistic Society is working for you & ALL Americans ~ This is just one example of your CHERISHED Wealth Controlled System ~
Won't work. Changing a general statement that you have the rights to the wealth of anyone you consider "rich" to specific illegal/unethical activities does nothing to make the general statement ethical or moral. (And yes, he has already dialed back his price increase to something only slightly less unethical). It remains, and always will be, highly unethical and immoral to decide that you actually own or have any right to any wealth legally collected. Your "idea" that all people have the right to equal wealth regardless of contribution is, IMO, immoral.
I could be wrong, but isn't the highest income level you can be taxed on $200,000.00 a year?. Any couple in their mid thirties who both have college degrees and jobs where they had a promotion or two can easily be making that much money.
Couldn't there be more tax levels? Like one at $1,000,000.00, one at $10,000,000.00. and so on? There seems to be a disparity here. Then the tax money could be used for programs for people who need them (if any of our politicians could agree on anything).
I've never heard of an upper income limit beyond which you will not owe taxes on.
But whether there is a current one or not, are you saying that you have an innate right to income you consider "too high"? Yes, you could legally take it and do with it whatever you wish - give it away, spend it on candy, whatever - but do you feel you have an ethical right to it?
I don't think I have an ethical right to anyone else's money. But it seems like middle class people pay more. Shouldn't people who make millions or billions have a higher tax bracket? The money could be used for projects to improve a community, or something agreed upon.
I know many millionaires think they worked hard for their pay, but many of them were just lucky and born into rich families. So they already have access to the best schools, best jobs, best homes, and so on. I realize in capitalism, you can't tell people what to do with their money or their businesses.
It's like with the ACA act. Many states got the Medicaid expansion, but doctors with the best reputations won't take it, so anyone on it must go to a "bottom of the barrel" doctor to get help. When my son was still substitute teaching, he had bad digestive issues, and couldn't afford to get the test he needed to determine if it was stomach cancer (it wasn't). Maybe if there were more tax brackets for people with outrageous amounts of money, it could help those who are in need.
"Shouldn't people who make millions or billions have a higher tax category? It doesn't seem fair."
They already pay far more than those that make less, yet you think they should pay even more than that. And sounds like you would make it a law if you could - still sounds like you think you have a right to what they have.
But "fair". What is "fair"? Should everyone pay the same amount for the same thing? The rich get the same thing from their millions in taxes as you do for your thousands (hundreds? nothing?) already. What could possibly be "fair" about charging them even more?
This has always been a rather troubling question for me. The country must have more than middle/low class can pay and still buy food, and that means the rich must pay more than their share to maintain the country. But to continually increase what they "owe" because we want more than we earn? Because we want to help others, but not from our own efforts? Do we have the right to force charity giving onto the rich? I don't think so - the ends do not justify the means and to decide that because the rich have more than we do means they must give it up just doesn't make it. Who decides just what is "rich" and what "needs" are, after all? The rich that will pay the bill? The poor that want more than they can afford? The middle that gets along pretty well and wants others to do the same, just doesn't want to foot the bill?
You bring up a lot of good points. But I still think very wealthy people have more tax loopholes, although many give generously to charity--can't they deduct that from income taxes? I'm not sure as tax law changes yearly. But I do know many wealthy people pay charities which conflict with each other, so they can say they supported issues no matter how it works out.
I'd need a lot more economic experience than I have to decide what's to be made a law regarding this. Some people want more than they earn, but many work two jobs and can't even make ends meet. My husband worked 6 days a week all our married life and died at 58. So are a lot of people, when we always hear how old people are living to be. The middle class is working so hard, it's killing them. And that's just for basic mortgages if they can afford a home, food, clothes, to put kids through college, and maybe go on one vacation a year. I worked for 20 years F/T with a painful back disability, and for 20 more P/T, and had money taken out of my pay for disability, which I never got until about a year after my husband passed on.
My father died when I was married, but in my 20's. My Mom was a 1950's housewife who had no marketable skills, so my husband and I supported her for years, and also my brother, who has mental health issues. So I see a middle class being squeezed so much, it's killing them, and they have nowhere to turn except to work more and more, until they are worked to death.
I don't see all these supposed lazy people who don't work, get welfare and handouts. President Obama never should have let the R's use the word "handouts" or "entitlements" because hard working people pay for all the government programs that came out of the New Deal. And too many are paying for it with their lives, they can't even afford to pay their doctors or for prescriptions they need.
Sorry if this sounds like a Bernie Sanders stump speech, I'm not supporting him.
Nothing to apologize for Jean ~ Senator Bernie Sanders is running for president to FIX, Repair, and Significantly ADJUST our potentially Irreparably FAILED System of Capitalism ~ A gloomy dark place where 99% of Americans have literally become "Slaves on EARTH" and as such, have developed Chronic Health Problems only to make a tiny fraction of GREED Driven In-Humane individuals Filthy Rich ~
Bernie Sanders and to a more moderate degree Hillary, are both trying to REFORM Wall Street at a minimum to FINALLY enact a "Share OUR Wealth Program", wealth which we have Earned as a Collective WORKING Class Society ~
Very Rarely does a Billionare become that Grotesquely Wealthy WITHOUT the assistance of the "SLAVE" i.e his/her Workers, so essentially, the GREAT Wealth amassed throughout the centuries belongs to all of us ~ Now, it's just a matter of beginning the process of "Recouping & Re-Patriating" OUR Nations Vast Assets ~ Bernie & Hillary are trying to do just that while Republicans continue to become even MORE Radicalized by advocating even MORE TAX Cuts for Corporate America so they can simply HOARD even MORE of our Assets ~ An INSANE Circle of GREED which MUST End for our very Survival as a Species ~
The Republican Led Benghazi Committee SHAM was a Political ATTACK on Hillary Clinton, Nothing MORE Nothing Less, because Right Wing GOP CONservatives understand the FACT that if Elected President, she will indeed make CHANGES which will serve to deliver OUR Wealth to "We the People" where it truly belongs ~
Our assets" our wealth'" . Ive dabbled in the market even though i aint got much money I still have Access cuz there are discount brokers. As far as *our wealth and our assets* I am on break at work and funny I dont see you here?i politely suggest if you want wealth or assets then get a job. And Keep as much as you earn i Wont beg you for money. Also I hope Hillary doesnt win and leave us all to die in benghazi and blame it on a youtube video aint nobody seen. BTW. Im not Republican
PhoenixV ~ I'm talking about "VAST Wealth & Riches" which are rarely Acquired and or Earned by WORKING a "Traditional JOB(s)" which is Designed Specifically to "USE individuals" who are ESSENTIALLY "Slaves on EARTH" in a concerted effort to make a small select few EXTREMELY Wealthy ~
If you honestly believe the TRUMP CONservative Nonsense that "Hard WORK" is the simplistic "Formula" to the Average American acquiring a "Fortune", you should VOTE GOP ~
As for Benghazi ? It's a crime that Trey Gowdy & his Republican Cohorts in Congress, and FOX Loser Snooze Channel USED the Deaths of AMERICANs abroad for a Political Purpose and as a DIRECT Result, Republican Trey Gowdy the Chairman has at least 1 Law Suit to contend with ~
I'm not sure what you mean Phoenix but let me ask you this ~ If the CONservative Capitalism Nonsense espoused by ALL Republicans that "HARD Work" is all it takes to make a "Fortune" in AMERICA is Valid, then WHY are you still Working & WHY are you NOT Surrounded by Millionaires & Billionaires as Friends & Family Members? ~
If she does indeed have 10's of MILLION's of course she didn't "Work Hard" for the money, that's a NO Brainer ~ It was acquired as either a GIFT, Inheritance, Good Fortune, or perhaps "Speaking Fees", but she certainly didn't earn it via a "Traditional JOB" ~
So, how many Millionaire & Billionaire Friends & Family Members surround you Phoenix ? Or, are you finally realizing the old CONservtaive Republican CON-Job Nonsense that "Hard Work" is all it takes to earn a FORTUNE in America is just that, NONSENSE ~
Unless you are EXTREMELY Fortunate, Inherit it, Invent a marketable NEW Product or Service, or are listed as the "Insured" on a substantial Life Insurance Policy, RARELY will an individual become a Millionaire or Billionaire ~ That's a well known & accepted FACT of life ~ So, you can either face REALITY here on EARTH, or keep believing in the Retarded Republican MANTRA of "Hard Work" will make you RICH ~
Hard work doesn't get you anywhere anymore in America. My husband went to work in a small Mom and Pop company who made spray paint equipment in their garage with their 2 sons way back when. They finally were able to rent a shop, then a bigger one. They became the biggest competitor of Sherwin Williams.
Then after 39 years of his working there, the main office decided to move from NJ to MN. He was constantly flying back and forth, for 2 weeks at a time. He was 58, and at least they could have just let him consult and retire early. He was always healthy, and after they worked him to death through a few of those miserable 2 week stays in MN, he actually did die. I was with him since I was 18, and the man was never sick. That's what you get in America when you are loyal to a company and work hard.
Wealthy people don't get it. It's like when Mitt Romney was telling kids "to let their parents buy them a business." My son has a teaching degree (humanities and elementary education) and it took him 4 years to get a classroom, because of all the nepotism.
This is the argument you always hear. They are as bad as us. Yesterday those republican congressmen/women boarded on cruel and unusual. 9-11, 300 dead Marines in Lebanon, 3000 of the dead in Iraq -all on Republicans watch and no one was ever put through what we witnessed yesterday.
Talk about Naïve , Do you not have any idea of the importance of utmost security in the levels of state department communications , So , For the Naïve ,The state department is where a vast mount of interactions between countries actually go's on ! In any given situation between sometimes vast differences in political belief's of nations there has to be a point in which a breakdown in communications has occurred AND all out war is declared !
That is the main job of the state dept. .To work in private ,in secrecy at most times to alleviate a situation to avoid all out war . Most Americans believe it's simply about having an embassy for image , Countless wars have been avoided because of the importance of EACH nations state dept , secrecy ,by whatever name they go by , Anyone who can't understand that importance in this security is Naïve , You cannot have secret relations between countries on Facebook ! Of which Hillary seems to consider the idea of her private email flop !
It is absolutely naïve to consider this issue one of partisan politics !
ahorseback ~ A DISCOVERY of New Ideas to Strengthen our National Security was and IS NOT the Intent of the Republican Instigated Benghazi Committee "Witch Hunt", a DISCOVERY of New Ideas pertaining to Eroding Hillary Clinton's Poll Percentage was indeed the Unethical perhaps illegal INTENT according to what appears to be the non-coerced admission of a republican who is actually a Speaker of the House Candidate ~
DISSOLVE this Republican Instigated & Led Committee SHAM Immediately ~
I actually love this thread , The ill will of even "progressives " towards EACH OTHER proves one thing . The supposed openness , the ultra - enlightenment , is all a ruse . A liberal is a liberal is a liberal ! This is proved right here . They can't even get along with each other ! Anarchy rules .
I see NO ill will at all, just an individual "Pretending" to be a Progressive Democrat that's all ~
The Republican led Benghazi Committe was exposed for what it truly was, an Empty, Bipartisan SHAM designed explicitly to damage Hillary Clinton's Presidential Effort ~
So, when will the NEXT republican led Tax Payer Financed Fiasco against the very popular "Planned Parenthood" commence? ~ Just ANOTHER insane conservative republican attack on Women's Rights & Right to Choose Health Care Providers ~
Don't even get me started on the Benghazi thing. The military has cleared Hillary Clinton of any wrongdoing in one of the many "committees" who participated in this witch hunt. I can't even believe the R's berated Hillary with questions for so many hours. At one point, near the end, one of the woman R's asked Hillary, "Later that night, did you go home and go to bed?" Hillary indicated she did. The woman (can't recall who) then replied, "Were you alone in bed all night?" Hillary seemed incredulous, but smiled and said, "Yes, alone all night!" The woman still didn't get that Hillary was trying to bring some levity to the proceedings after being tortured by idiot Trey Gowdy for hours, and got really nasty when Hillary laughed, saying, "I don't think this is a laughing matter." I thought it was hilarious. They make such fools of themselves, and are too unsophisticated to realize it.
UPDATE: **** MORE Potentially Disasterous Problems for the now defunct GOP ~
Another FORMER Member is ready to testify that the republican conceived committee which was advertised as legitimate, in Reality "Morphed" rather swiftly into a Deliberate, Concentrated scheme to adversely affect Hillary Clinton's Presidential Aspirations ~
National Security? Victim's Families? No, not the intent of this Cold, Calculating Assemblage of Radically Regressive Insane Republicans ~
Will the conservative instigaters of this Tax Payer Funded SHAM be Prosecuted or Forced to Resign as a direct result? ~
We need to PULL the PLUG on this Pathetic Joke of a Taxpayer FUNDED, Republican Led Committee Right NOW, in MidStream ~
Unbelievable, but then again not really ~ "Republican Pretend Land" at its Absolute BEST ~ NOT a single Republican Representative UNDERSTANDS Protocol, COMMUNICATIONS, nor the actual FACTS surrounding this Incident ~ But of course that's NO Surprise ~
Is this an Attack Specifically Designed to Target Hillary? NO DOUBT, and you as Republican, Democrat, Democratic Socialist, Independant etc are PAYING for this Wasteful Public Disgrace ~
Never target Democrats to see if their actions are illegal - is that it? We're to just assume with a (D) after their name is lily white?
There were approx 7 or 8 Investigations and or Reports pertaining to Benghazi Previous to this Republican Led Sham which has already lasted LONGER in DURATION than any other in HISTORY including Congressional Committees on JFK, Pearl Harbor & Watergate ~
Either House Republicans are Helplessly DIMWITTED & SLOW in Digesting Basic Information, which is certainly Understandable & Expected, or, it was and STILL is, a Pathetic Political HACK Job Directed at Hillary ~ The Republican's FEAR of Hillary and her Extraordinary Intelligence, Competence, SUPER-Human Stamina & Dedication to Women's Rights, Working Individuals, Minorities, Students, Senior Citizens etc, would certainly explain the desperate Republican Congressional Attacks on her ~
I can boldly say that Trey Gowdy is the clearest thinker in government today. He does not mince words.
So far, Cummings, Schiff and Smith are disgraceful. They are saying that the Benghazi Committee is "political", but it is only that because the Democrats are making it so.
Not hard to see that.
If Trey Gowdy is the "Clearest Thinker" in Government this Partisan Committee Led by him would have CONCLUDED Long Ago or NOT been Assembled to begin with ~ Obviously his "Thinking" is Severely CLOUDED ~ Moreover, he WASTED Millions of our Tax Dollars on this Unecessary Witch-Hunt ~
* SEVERAL Previous Investigations/Reports Conducted Related to Benghazi
* Benghazi is the LONGEST Congressional Committee in HISTORY AND STILL COUNTING surpassing JFK, Pearl Harbor, & Watergate
* Authoritative Personnel from the CIA, Defense DEPT etc were NOT Called to Testify, just Hillary
* ALMOST ALL the Questions Directed at Hillary were of a Personal Nature and Un-Related to Benghazi or the SECURITY thereof
* The Unabashed ANGER & Frustration Spurted like GEYSERs from the Mouths of Republicans as they Grilled Hillary for APPROX 11 Gruelling HOURS
NOT a POLITICAL Attack on Hillary? It was like a 50 ROUND Prize Fight in which Hillary Methodically Defended herself and Systematically KO'd every single RABID Republican ~ Unimaginable SUPER-Human STAMINA ~ 7 AGAINST 1 and she EMERGED the Un-Disputed Champ ~ Presidential Candidate? One of the ABSOLUTE BEST America Has to OFFER ~
Looks like the Clintons were right, the Prima Facie Evidence Indicates that there ACTUALLY is a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy as recently admitted by Republican House Leader Kevin McCarthy ~
The CONservative Fear of Hillary & Bill is Clear ~ Especially when the very best you could possibly gather in your corner is Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, Chris Christie, Carly Fiorina, Marco Rubio, and a STIFF Numbskulled Bigoted Racist & ONE Time Presidential Loser Mutt Romney ~
But, at least if they NOMINATE Mutt Romney, we can all count on unilateral "Hispanic Self Deportation" ~
Reports Confirm Trey Gowdy, the "Ringleader" of the Benghazi Committee SHAM, is being sued by a Former Benghazi Investigator ~
Why do I assume this is the first of MANY Legal Actions against this Shameful Tax-Payer Funded Waste of Time ~
"Five Reasons Benghazi Still Matters"
Not, "What difference does it make..." said Hillary Clinton.
1. Four Americans Died
2. America’s Solemn Duty to Never Leave a Man Behind is Shaken
3. President Obama’s Awful Foreign Policy has Consequences
4. President Obama Still Refuses to Confront the Threat of Radical Islam
5. We Still Have Ambassadors and Diplomatic Personnel in Dangerous Areas
* http://aclj.org/national-security/five- … ll-matters
E-mail Servers, Hacking, and Our Endangered National Security
http://aclj.org/national-security/e-mai … l-security
Former Secretary of State Clinton’s Email Felony
http://aclj.org/national-security/go-wh … ail-felony
Fact Check: Hillary Clinton, Those Emails And The Law
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolit … nd-the-law
colorfulone ~ Next time you wander in here, you might wanna' HIDE Trey Gowdy's FACE, or cover it with some kind of towel or confederate flag, I mean C'mon, he's not the most Attractive, Honest, nor Intellectually Sound looking Human Being on the CONservative side ~ Looking at him LIVE during the SHAM Hearings he Directed was quite enough ~ As a matter of fact, there's not ONE that I can think of in the GOP that would fit a persona of INTELLIGENT or even slightly Attractive for that matter ~ ~
Moreover, Benghazi DOES Indeed Matter, but the Politically Motivated, Unlawful SHAM called the Benghazi Committee DOES NOT ~ Your American Tax Dollars were used recklessly to produce the LONGEST Attack ADD in the History of Mankind, designed EXCLUSIVELY to target Hillary ~ Unfortunately for ALL Americans, The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is ALIVE & Well ~ NOW let's see what happens to your HERO Trey Gowdy in a Court of Law when Due Process via Juris-Prudence is executed ~
Following this P.R. Nightmare for conservatives, I'm not so sure they want to "Double-Up" on another SHAM of a Committee designed to "Go After" Planned Parenthood, but then again, Radical Republicans just don't CARE about America, her laws, nor "We the PEOPLE" ~
Judicial Watch announced today that it obtained more than 100 pages of previously classified “Secret” documents from the Department of Defense (DOD)and the Department of State revealing that DOD almost immediately reported that the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was committed by the al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood-linked “Brigades of the Captive Omar Abdul Rahman” (BCOAR), and had been planned at least 10 days in advance. Rahman is known as the Blind Sheikh, and is serving life in prison for his involvement in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and other terrorist acts. The new documents also provide the first official confirmation that shows the U.S. government was aware of arms shipments from Benghazi to Syria. The documents also include an August 2012 analysis warning of the rise of ISIS and the predicted failure of the Obama policy of regime change in Syria.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room … n-advance/
Department of Defense Documents
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content … ersion.pdf
The document also shows that the Obama Adm. possibly did some "gun-running" of former Libya military weapons shipped to Syria via the port of Benghazi, Libya. Another "Fast and Furious" gun running operation by the Obama Adm?
Oh but, Obama and Hillary announced that the Benghazi attack was because of a YouTube video.
Two psychopathic liars, lying to the world.
* Obama lying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBb2EQmtnhQ
* Hillary lying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3RfxNJBArU
An email on Hillary's private server to her daughter shows that she knew it was an attack by al Qaeda, which was reveal during the Benghazi Committee hearings.
Benghazi Matters! The Truth Matters! Doesn't It?
All the data was collected from Hillary's devices. Once it was, it is illegal to go back after the fact and declare something "classified" when it wasn't classified in the first place. It's just a witch hunt, which Trey Gowdy himself said. Hillary knew the embassies were in danger, and asked for help. The do nothing Congress would not give her the funds or people she needed to keep the embassies safe.
Thank you for the facts. Those who won't let this go seem to forget that Reagan lost 220 Marines in Beirut because of his failed foreign policy there. No congressional hearing for him and he's still beloved.
Hi Kathleen THX for reminding us of that ~ In addition to the Beirut Tragedy, I'm sure you might remember during the Reagan Administration there was also the Covert & Criminal Activity of "Iran-Contra" ~ A complicated situation where Reagan and or his agents illegally SOLD Military ARMs to Iran while an Embargo or "BAN" was in place against the country ~ It was concluded by many that this Exchange & Transfer of Deadly Weapons to Iran by the U.S. Leadership was a direct effort to secure the Release of American Hostages Held in Lebanon ~ Nicaragua was also a key player in the conspiracy and this was all executed in SECRECY without disclosure of the FACTS to the American Public ~
The Reagan Administration attempted to Appease the enemy by Negotiating the Transfer of Weapons for our Hostages, right or wrong according to an individual's beliefs, this appears to be the case ~ I know the vast majority of Conservative Republicans VEHEMENTLY Oppose Negotiating with our enemies ~
There was however an EXTENSIVE Congressional Hearing related to this Nefarious Historical Event which of course severely TARNISHED the Reagan Legacy ~
When considered in Proper Historical PERSPECTIVE, it takes an ULTERIOR Political Motive, which has already been proven by REP. Kevin McCarthy's Own Admission, to have the Audacity to Illegally Attack Hillary via an Unlawful Republican Led Congressional "Witch Hunt" ~
It still dosen't draw Attention away from the TRUE Agenda of the Gowdy Led Benghazi Committee SHAM ~ A CONservative AGENDA as EXPOSED by Numbskull Kevin McCarthy which was NOT assembled to Discover the Legitimate FACTS, so Improvements could be made in the future, it was designed specifically to Attack Hillary ~
Why do you think this charade to date is the LONGEST Congressional Committee in the History of Mankind? Longer than the JFK Committee, Longer than the Pearl Harbor Committee, Longer in duration than the WW2 Committee etc etc etc ~ ??
YOUR Tax Dollars were recklessly spent exclusively for Political Purposes, spent by republican corporate puppets, and that's a crime ~
"Trey Gowdy Opening Statement Benghazi Committee Hearing."
I watched the hearing when Clinton was there, and I didn't see or hear any of your charges on Trey Gowdy. He was after the truth and nothing but the truth about Benghazi. Hillary was a small part of the hearing. Frankly, I believe she was lying through her teeth, and documents prove she was lying on different points. She is slippy like a greased pig.
The Benghazi Committees that were set up before the one Trey headed were bogus investigations designed to protect Hillary. Listen to his opening statement he goes into it.
I'm not really interested in what Hillbilly Trey Gowdy has to say, he has ZERO Credibility and he'll get his opportunity in a Court of Law in defense to try to clear his Badly Tarnished Name & Reputation ~ I'm not sure what the penalty will be if he's found Guilty, but a Stiff Fine, Reprimand, Removal from Office & Perhaps even Jail Time might be Appropriate Punishment for WASTING Millions of OUR Tax Dollars on a Politically Motivated SHAM which lasted LONGER than the JFK Hearings, or Pearl Harbor Hearings etc etc etc ~ A SHAM which was Exposed by REPUBLICAN Kevin McCarthy & other individuals who were intimately involved in this "Committee" ~
I watched the hearing LIVE, and Hillary proved to be the Champion she truly is ~ The kind of individual who can "Take ON" 7 Mal-Intended GOP Congressmen/Woman all at once for approximately 11 HOURS and still come out VICTORIOUS, while you could almost see the sweat dripping down Gowdy's nervous face ~ A RABID Gang of 7 GOPers tried desperately to "Wear her DOWN" and guess what? She WORE them DOWN ~ She did NOT Blink nor Panic in the least, She's a GENUINE Presidential Candidate ~ Needless to say, the hearing did not go as planned for CONservatives ~
Your man Gowdy was virtually speechless subsequent to the hearing when asked by an EVIL reporter what NEW information he had learned from the session ~ In the end, it was clearly evident as he embraced her hand, that Hillary had earned a NEW Found Respect from Trey ~
I understand backward thinking conservative republicans have extreme DIFFICULTY swallowing FACTS which is obviously one reason why they tend to live in their own little "PRETEND-Land" where Concrete Evidence is miraculously IRRELEVANT, but we need to set the RECORD Straight once again with regard to the Republican Instigated Benghazi Committe SHAM ~
The ONLY Individual who apparently LIED, is the CHAIRMAN of said Committe SHAM Republican Trey Gowdy who has found himself in Serious LEGAL Troubles as a result ~ Kevin McCarthy, Republican Congressman came forward on Fox Loser Snooze Propaganda Channel and "Blew the Whistle" weeks ago when he ADMITTED the Committe was assembled LONG Ago as a Right Wing Political Instrument to ATTACK Hilllary versus a Legitimate Investigative Inquiry ~ SORRY Right Wing NutJobs, your Disingenuous Rhetoric only resonates in your little "Fantasy-World" ~
Hillary Clinton’s 5 Biggest Lies in Her Benghazi Testimony
People were killed...that does matter!
http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur … testimony/
...the Pentagon was offering military assets that potentially could have saved the lives of American citizens — if only the State Department had signed off. But,...the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did what?
http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/12/bombs … ghazi-but/
colorfulone ~ One of your Biggest Problems here there and everywhere is your Un*reliable, Dubious SOURCES ~ I should have known ~ Breitbart ?? allenwest ?? Seriously ?? ~ Now I understand where your "Ridiculousness" comes from ~
Republican Trey Gowdy is in Serious Legal Trouble as a result of his ROLE in the GOP Benghazi Committee SHAM ~ Sorry, but Hillary came out of those disingenuous hearings as an Undisputed CHAMPION , Knocking OUT 7 Republican numbskulls in relatively Short Order ~
Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods served our country with courage and with honor. They were killed under circumstances most of us could never imagine. Under cover of darkness, terrorists poured through the front gate of our facility and attacked our people and our property with machine guns, mortars and fire.
It is important we remember how these four men died. It is equally important we remember how and why they lived. They were more than four images on a television screen. They were husbands, fathers, sons, brothers, family and friends. They were Americans who believed in service and sacrifice. Many people speak wistfully of a better world, but do little about it. These four men went out and tried to make it better. And it cost them their lives.
We know what they gave us. What do we owe them? Justice for those who killed them. We owe their families our everlasting respect and gratitude. We owe them - and each other - the truth.
The truth about why we were in Libya.
The truth about what we were doing in Libya.
The truth about the escalating violence in Libya before we were attacked and these four men lost their lives.
The truth about requests for additional security.
The truth about requests for more personnel.
The truth about requests for more equipment.
The truth about where and why our military was positioned as it was on the anniversary of 9-11.
The truth about what was happening and being discussed in Washington while our people were under attack.
The truth about what led to the attacks.
The truth about what our government told the American people after the attacks.
Why were there so many requests for more security personnel and equipment, and why were those requests denied in Washington?
Why did the State Department compound in Benghazi not even come close to meeting proper security specifications?
What policies were we pursuing in Libya that required a physical presence in spite of the escalating violence?
Who in Washington was aware of the escalating violence in Libya?
What special precautions, if any, were taken on the anniversary of 9-11?
What happened in Washington after the first attack and what was the response to that attack?
What did the military do or not do?
What did our leaders in Washington do or not do and when?
Why was the American public given such divergent accounts of what caused these attacks?
And why is it so hard to get information from the very government these four men were representing and serving and sacrificing for?
Even after an Accountability Review Board and half a dozen congressional investigations, these and other questions still lingered. These questions lingered because those previous investigations were not thorough. These questions lingered because those previous investigations were narrow in scope and either incapable or unwilling to access the facts and evidence necessary to answer all relevant questions.
So the House of Representatives, including some Democrats, asked this Committee to write the final, definitive accounting of what happened in Benghazi.
This committee is the first committee to review more than fifty thousand pages of documents because we insisted they be produced.
This committee is the first committee to demand access to more eyewitnesses, because serious investigations talk to as many eyewitnesses as possible.
This committee is the first committee to thoroughly and individually interview scores of other witnesses, many of them for the first time.
This committee is the first committee to review thousands of pages of documents from top State Department personnel.
This committee is the first committee to demand access to relevant documents from the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Defense, the State Department, and even the White House.
This committee is the first committee to demand access to the emails to and from Ambassador Chris Stevens. How could an investigation possibly be considered credible without reviewing the emails of the person most knowledgeable about Libya?
This committee is the first committee, the only committee, to uncover the fact that Secretary Clinton exclusively used personal email on her own personal server for official business and kept the public record – including emails about Benghazi and Libya – in her own custody and control for almost two years after she left office. And it was Secretary Clinton's lawyers who determined what would be returned and what would not be returned.
You will hear a lot about the Accountability Review Board today. Secretary Clinton mentioned the ARB more than 70 times in her previous testimony before Congress. But when you hear about the ARB you should also know State Department leadership handpicked members of the ARB, the ARB never interviewed Secretary Clinton, the ARB never reviewed her emails and Secretary Clinton's top advisor was allowed to review and suggest changes to the ARB report before the public ever saw it. There is no transcript of ARB interviews, so it is impossible to know whether all relevant questions were asked and answered. And because there is no transcript it is impossible to cite ARB interviews with any particularity at all. That is not independent. That is not accountability. That is not a serious investigation.
You will hear there were previous congressional investigations into Benghazi. That is true. It should make you wonder why those previous investigations failed to interview so many witnesses and failed to access so many documents. If those previous congressional investigations really were serious and thorough, how did they miss Ambassador Stevens' emails? If those investigations were serious and thorough, how did they miss Secretary Clinton's emails? If those previous congressional investigations were serious and thorough, why did they fail to interview dozens of key State Department witnesses including agents on the ground, who experienced the terrorist attacks firsthand?
Just last month, three years after Benghazi, top aides finally returned documents to the State Department. A month ago, this Committee received 1500 new pages of Secretary Clinton's emails related to Libya and Benghazi. 3 years after the attacks. A little over two weeks ago, this Committee received roughly 1400 pages of Ambassador Stevens' emails. 3 years after the attacks.
It is impossible to conduct a serious, fact-centric investigation without access to the documents from the former Secretary of State, the Ambassador who knew more about Libya than anyone else, and testimony from witnesses who survived the attacks.
Madame Secretary, I understand some people - frankly in both parties -have suggested this investigation is about you. Let me assure you it is not. And let me assure you why it is not. This work is about something much more important than any single person. It is about four U.S. government workers, including our Ambassador, murdered by terrorists on foreign soil. It is about what happened before, during, and after the attacks that killed these four men. It is about what this country owes those who risk their lives to serve it. It is about the fundamental obligation of our government to tell the truth - always - to the American people. Not a single member of this Committee signed up for an investigation into you or your email system. We signed up because we wanted to honor the service and sacrifice of 4 people sent to a foreign land to represent us - who were killed - and do everything we can to prevent it from happening to others.
Our Committee has interviewed half a hundred witnesses, not a single one of them has been named Clinton until today. You were the Secretary of State for this country when our facility was attacked. So, of course this Committee is going to talk to you. You are an important witness, but you are just one important witness, among half a hundred important witnesses.
I understand you wanted to come sooner than today so let me be clear why that did not happen. You had an unusual email arrangement with yourself, which meant the State Department could not produce your emails to us.
You made exclusive use of personal email and a personal server. When you left the State Department you kept those public records to yourself for almost two years. You and your attorneys decided what to return and what to delete. Those decisions were your decisions, not ours. It was only in March of this year we learned of this email arrangement. Since we learned of your email arrangement we have interviewed dozens of witnesses, only one of whom was about your email arrangement, and that was a very short interview because he invoked his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination.
Making sure the public record is complete is what serious investigations do. So, it was important to gain access to Ambassador Stevens’ emails, the emails of other Sr. leaders and witnesses, and it was important to gain access to your emails. Your emails are no more or less important than anyone else’s. It just took longer to get them and garnered more attention in the process.
I want you to take note during this hearing how many times congressional Democrats call on this administration to make long awaited documents available. They won't. Take note of how many witnesses congressional Democrats ask us to schedule for interview. They won't. We would be much closer to finishing this investigation and writing a final report if our Democrat colleagues decided to help us pursue the facts. If the Democrats on this committee had their way, dozens of witnesses never would have been interviewed, tens of thousands of documents never would have been reviewed, your public record would still be private, and we would never have accessed the emails of our Ambassador. All of that may be smart politics, but it is not the way to run a serious investigation.
There are certain characteristics that make our country unique in the annals of history. We are the greatest experiment in self-governance the world has ever known. And part of that self-governance includes self-scrutiny - even of the highest officials. Our country is strong enough to handle the truth. And our fellow citizens expect us to pursue the truth, wherever the facts take us.
So this committee is going to do what we pledged to do, and what should have been done long ago, which is interview the witnesses, examine the relevant evidence, and access the documents. We are going to pursue the truth in a manner worthy of the memory of the four men who lost their lives and worthy of the respect of our fellow citizens.
We are going to write that final, definitive accounting of what happened in Benghazi. We would like to do it with your help, but we are going to do it nonetheless. Because understanding what happened in Benghazi goes to the heart of who we are as a country and the promises we make to those we send into harm's way. They deserve the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The people we work for deserve the truth. The family and friends of those killed representing this country deserve the truth. There is no statute of limitations on that truth.
https://benghazi.house.gov/news/press-r … -statement
I want the truth to come out. Americans died. It looks like to me that the other committee investigations were not seriously looking for all the evidence and finding out the truth.
colorfulone ~ Nobody is gonna' read ALL that Nonsense because that's just what it is ~ Kevin McCarthy EXPOSED the Repbulican Led TAX Payer Funded SHAM for what is truly is by Inadvertently "Blowing the Whistle" on the Conservative Members who instigated one of the LONGEST Committees in the History of the United States ~
It was NEVER about those who unfortunately lost their lives in an extremely dangerous part of the world situated in an unstable land, it was ALL about ATTACKING Hillary for Political Purposes PERIOD, and that ill-conceived plan simply BACK-FIRED ~ Kevin McCarthy is not the ONLY Individual involved in the "Whistle Blowing", other individuals have come forward as well to Confess the Committee was a Grand SHAM ~
Republican Trey Gowdy is in DEEP Legal Trouble as a direct reult of this SHAM and perhaps more republicans will be implicated as things progress ~ We can ONLY HOPE once these Backward Thinking Radical Republicans proceed with the NEXT Tax Payer Funded Sham against Planned Parenthood, the result will be EXACTLY the same, MORE Republicans in DEEP Legal Trouble & Forced to RESIGN ~
Just like the President Obama Birther NONSENSE, don't Republicans understand the FACT that this kind of INSANITY has already DESTROYED their OWN Party and will eventually DESTROY each individual CONservative Politician going forward ? ~
I'm with Kathleen C ~ The TRUTH has indeed come out and Republicans are Paying Dearly for it ~
The truth has come out. Some people just don't like what it is. Let those fine men rest in peace.
First pint in error in you lengthy post. No! The Benghazi Committee is not the longest running investigation in US history. I know Hillary lied and said it was, can't trust her to tell the truth about anything. Sad but true!
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/02/no-th … tion-ever/
As for the rest of the "nonsense" as you put it, I don't care to take the time to disprove AP (snooze) News. So! Carry on as you were.
This is exactly the point. No matter what the facts prove to be, there are those who don't like them - so they won't accept them as true.
Hillary knew the embassies were in danger, and asked for more personnel and money to protect them. It was not given to her. She is one person, and was reaching out for help as much as she could. Yes, it's tragic that anyone died. But she was busy on the phone calling various country's leaders all night. What else did you want her to do? Grab a gun and go shoot people herself? As it was, she was sent to all kinds of unsafe areas during her time as Secretary of State. Sometimes you can only do so much. All these committees are ridiculous, and enough is enough.
As if Credit Card CRAZY Marco Rubio didn't have enough problems already, Now, Rumor has it Trey Gowdy, the CONservative Republican Instigator of the Benghazi Committee SHAM is expected to ENDORSE him ~
Yup, Trey Gowdy, the CONservative imbecile who is in Serious Legal Trouble as result of his actions, is expected to endorse Marco Rubio ~ Talk about a TOXIC nod ~ ~ I wonder if Marco is trying to OBSTRUCT Trey's endorsement behind the scenes ?? ~
BTW ~ Remember those questionable PP Vids Purported to depict unlawful activity ? The ridiculous claims by Carly Fiorina, Cruz, Rubio & FOX Loser Snooze Channel who attempted to PEDDLE the Videos to the WORLD as "Legitimate" ? Well, yup, you guessed it, they were found to be "Fraudulent & PHONY" and the creators of said propaganda were indicted on FELONY Charges by a TEXAS Grand Jury while Planned Parenthood was CLEARED & Vindicated as expected ~
JUST MORE CONservative Republican LIES & MORE Nonsensical Propaganda Distributed by FOX Loser Snoozers ~
Wow - talk about HATE peddling. I get the feeling that you are very polarized toward the Democrat side of the political spectrum Alternative Prime, and I don't expect you to answer me without a lot angry "evidence" of how terrible the Republican Party is, but I'm going to make a statement anyway.
First of all, Progressive policies might seem like a great idea to Democrats, just as Conservative policies seem like good ideas to the Republicans, however in both cases, the policies aren't set up to benefit all Americans, only the demographics that each party finds key to them gaining the votes to stay in power.
I know that you'll start listing selected ones which you feel benefit all Americans like a higher minimum wage or gay marriage. Then I'd likely to counter with how it actually slows down employment growth and we'd get into a long discussion on supply and demand and other factors that influence the labor market and finally both walk away unsatisfied. Then we'd switch to the gay marriage topic where of course we'd again have differing opinions with different evidence to support our respective causes, and the end result would be the same; I'd retain my position and you'd retain yours.
Maybe I'd say that under Democrat leadership we had banking deregulation (under Clinton) that caused the recession we are still living under today, or how FDR's new deal led us to have a nanny state mentality and how his policies actually stretched the Great Depression out longer than necessary, or perhaps how Woodrow Wilson basically implemented a propaganda agency while in office and jailed dissenters and illegally tried to stop free speech, or how about Jimmy Carter and the high inflation, high gas prices, and horrible economy, and then good old Barry Obama, who added over 6.1 billion dollars to the national debt. And you'd counter with a battery of counterpoints but in the end, nothing would change.
If you are a huge supporter of Hillary Clinton and feel her leadership would benefit ALL Americans, then by the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution, you can support her as strongly as you choose to. I'd personally like to see policies which are more American in nature than one party in nature.
I think more people can get behind things that benefit all of us, like reducing government interference in our lives, less regulating, enforcing the law (or if the laws aren't working, repealing them and replacing them with ones that do,) keeping our citizens safe, and working to keep good paying jobs in the country.
Feel free to say anything you choose in response - I'm not going to respond back either way. My post has no personal attacks on you or your beliefs system, just making a point that the problem is two sided.
I must say, I do kinda "H*A*T*E" it when my TAX Dollars by the MILLIONs are illegally used by Crooked CONservative Congressional Republicans like Trey Gowdy et al to conduct an Immoral & Unethical "Benghazi Witch HUNT" against individuals like Hillary Clinton for purely POLITICAL Purposes ~ Those are the irrefutable FACTS according to your OWN Republican Kevin McCarthy & Others as difficult to take as they may be ~
You as well should kinda H*A*T*E it when that happens and should DEMAND these Right Wing Anarchists be held accountable in a court of jurisdiction for their Reckless & Unlawful Behavior
According to recent reports, the Final CONCLUSION of this Republican LED & Tax-Payer FUNDED "SHAM" will be released soon, right smack dab in the middle of a Presidential Election CYCLE ~ "PAR for the CROOKED Republican Course" I guess ~
Will it mean anything? NOT a Chance, it's irrelevant at this point, even the HEAD "Shamster" Trey Gowdy admitted after Hillary Testified that he had LEARNED Nothing NEW, well yeah, there's a Big Surprise right? This constituting the 8th or 9th Investigation Pertaining to the Very SAME Subject ~
Trey and his BACKWARD CONservative Republican's did however accomplish one goal, they WASTED MILLIONs in Taxpayer FUNDs to Conduct a blatant "Witch-HUNT" of Monumental Proportions, and that's about it ~ Oh, and the other direct result was at least 1 LAW Suit Filed AGAINST Trey Gowdy ~ NICE Job CONservatives ~ You'll be held ACCOUNTABLE for this Illegal & Unethical Action ~
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