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Iran says she is a spy and the U.S. says she isn't..............

  1. RKHenry profile image76
    RKHenryposted 8 years ago

    The worlds pipeline and mainstream media has cast this particular news worthy event, as a true test case for American President Barrack Obama.  For those who aren't aware of the situation concerning American journalist and blogger, Roxana Saberi; here is one of the many news articles concerning her plight:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8006861.stm

    It appears that she was arrested in Nov. 2008 for not having the proper paperwork.  Since then she has been convicted to 8 years in an Iranian prison.  Fellow hubber John Z wrote a very interesting hub on this subject matter.

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Saberi-Convicti … nistration

    I would like to know what some of you think of the situation. 
    How should Obama approach this matter with Iran?  Is she a sacrificial lamb of the Bush's administration?  How does the world see this situation?

    1. GeneriqueMedia profile image61
      GeneriqueMediaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      RK...Mister Bush didn't hire spies personally. =P

      1. RKHenry profile image76
        RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        No?really?

  2. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago

    The plight of Roxana Saberi is very much sympathetic. In a land where women are subjected to strict laws, forbidding even minimum rights to women, she is likely to go through harsh experiences. America and especially President Obama should not place one of their citizens at the mercy of a hostile country.

    1. RKHenry profile image76
      RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      So he should do whatever is necessary to get her out?

      1. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
        VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Of course. As head of US govt., it is his duty only if the reporter is innocent. If otherwise, leave her to her fate.

        1. RKHenry profile image76
          RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you. 

          However my position is not as friendly as yours is.  I think America should not test this fragile relationship, and just leave her to her fate anyways.  Yours does sound nicer.

  3. aka-dj profile image80
    aka-djposted 8 years ago

    I guess the real question is "was she spying?" That then leads to what constitutes "spying"? By Iran's definition (whatever that is,I don't know) she may have been, making her guilty. But, on the other hand, by the US definition, she might NOT have been, making her inocent. Tough one, all round. sad

    1. RKHenry profile image76
      RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I agree it's a tough one.  I think we {Americans} should just leave this one alone.  I think quite frankly that there is more to her story.

      1. aka-dj profile image80
        aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        We had the Schapelle Corby case, involving drug traficing into Indonesia. There was a big thing on it here (Australia). Well, she was convicted, and is still in gaol (jail).Not sure it relates, but it caused a stir for a while.

        1. RKHenry profile image76
          RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Were they breaking the law?  Were they breaking Indonesian law?

          1. aka-dj profile image80
            aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  4. LondonGirl profile image90
    LondonGirlposted 8 years ago

    The USA would say she wasn't spying, whether she was or not. The denial tells us nothing.

    1. RKHenry profile image76
      RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I concur, but that's not the real issue for me as an American.  I would rather know things like um,  how does this look to the outside world?  What should Obama do?  Was she a spy?  Do you honestly think that the CIA would screw up this badly?  They have been in this "spy game" too long, don't ya think to make an elementary error such as not having the proper documents.  So, I offer the idea that maybe she was bait.......... what do you think of that?

      Why state the obvious?

  5. Dame Scribe profile image59
    Dame Scribeposted 8 years ago

    Anybody goes to those countries could be accused at any time of spying tongue I think they're acting on their pride ... to show they have power over a single woman... but it reveals their way and levels of thinking...plus actions do speak volumes...they think very little of women after all. In the end they are growing their own 'sh*tty' reputation and should be tossed out of participating at the UN table hmm

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I agree about the reputation. The rantings out of Iran indicate the sort of politics that prevail. The only loonier government is in North Korea.
      I do however agree with LondonGirl that America would deny it even if it were true.

      1. RKHenry profile image76
        RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Why would we?  What's the bases for such a belief?

        1. earnestshub profile image87
          earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I am not an American, but I can't think of an example of any government admitting they spy. As an Australian, I just do not trust the American security systems to tell the truth. Why start now?

        2. LondonGirl profile image90
          LondonGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          No country ever confirms any spying if it can help it.

          1. RKHenry profile image76
            RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            The Bush administration was quite open about spying and even blowing certain spies cover.  So that has not been our/American policy for the better part of a decade.

  6. ledefensetech profile image80
    ledefensetechposted 8 years ago

    The President took an oath to protect the life and liberty of Americans.  To allow a thug like Iran to keep this person is unconscionable.  Iran is just playing stupid political games for domestic consumption and this poor girl is caught in the middle of it. 

    So far as I know the CIA still has a rule that doesn't allow reporters to spy for the US to keep this very thing from happening.  It dates, I believe, back to the days of the Cold War.  It makes sense when you think about it.

    1. RKHenry profile image76
      RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      The parimutuel bet, oh I mean oath; is an appeasement to the direction of what is necessary for the better good, post op. I know you are intelligent.  You've got to know this.

  7. ledefensetech profile image80
    ledefensetechposted 8 years ago

    Except for the fact that I don't believe in "the greater good".  I'd better leave it at that, otherwise I'd start ranting.  The situation we're in today is not much different than that faced by Jefferson in his war against the Barbary Pirates. 

    Then, as now, American citizens were being held by hostile powers.  Then, as now, we had few friends in the world.  Then, as now,other nations thought it better to appease villainy rather than confront it.  The thing that remains to be seen is will we deal with this problem the same way we did before or will this time be different?

 
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