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Republicans only -define racism and name one or more racists.

  1. Austinstar profile image76
    Austinstarposted 6 months ago

    Paul Ryan stated that Trump's accusation of his Judge's bias due to his Mexican heritage was the very definition of racism, but he still supports the Republican nominee. Why can't he just call Trump a racist? And admit that racism is rampant in the Republican party.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 6 months ago in reply to this

      Trump says he has not a racist bone in his body and he is the least racist person he has ever known.

      Personally I've never heard more people call Trump Racists than other human. My summary is he a great liar aand a racist and should be fired.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 6 months ago in reply to this

        Since most Presidents  have been prior lawyers. The best liars and most often win the Presidency position. I say fire the whole General federal Government. They only make life on this planet worst and finance for the average person progressingly worst.

    2. Credence2 profile image86
      Credence2posted 6 months ago in reply to this

      Unfortunately for the GOP, Trump is the face of the Party. There is no conflict between the GOP base and Trump because both are cut from the same swath of cloth.

      1. colorfulone profile image87
        colorfuloneposted 6 months ago in reply to this

        The conflict is with the corrupt GOP establishment, not the base.  A Trump presidency upsets the corny gravy-train Washington cartel.  Ryan, IMHO, is a globalist establishment who talks out of both sides of his mouth, his actions say it all.  He sure does have pretty big-blue eyes though! 

        Fiscal responsibility is the direction Trump wants to take the party, and make life more comfortable for every American.

    3. Live to Learn profile image81
      Live to Learnposted 6 months ago in reply to this

      I wouldn't think that racism is rampant in the Republican Party. It's just rampant in the Trump camp.

      I do agree though that Trump should be denounced by all decent Republicans. Decent Republicans should boycott the convention if Trump is the nominee.

      1. Austinstar profile image76
        Austinstarposted 6 months ago in reply to this

        Seriously? You haven't noticed the lack of diversity in the Republican party?

        1. PrettyPanther profile image86
          PrettyPantherposted 6 months ago in reply to this

          Diversity in the GOP is trending downward, if you look at participation in the Republican convention, which is admittedly only one barometer.  Only 18 of the 2472 delegates are black.

          "In 2004, 167 African Americans delegates attended the RNC convention as President George W. Bush was renominated. In 2008, 36 African Americans attended as delegates as Sen. John McCain was nominated to run against then-Sen. Barack Obama, and in 2012 there were 28 African American delegates as Mitt Romney was nominated."

          It just keeps getting worse each election cycle.  Not good for the future of the GOP.

          http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/blac … on-n586776

          1. Credence2 profile image86
            Credence2posted 6 months ago in reply to this

            It can't be much better among young voters, hispanics and women in general.

        2. Live to Learn profile image81
          Live to Learnposted 6 months ago in reply to this

          I'd be curious how you came to the conclusion that equates to racism.

          1. PrettyPanther profile image86
            PrettyPantherposted 6 months ago in reply to this

            You are right that one cannot automatically assume the lack of diversity is due to racism.  However, it does, at the very least, speak to how the party is viewed by minorities.  If they feel included, if they feel GOP policies are helpful to them personally, if they feel welcome, then they become part of the GOP.  If not, they leave.  It seems the party is becoming less diverse, which runs counter to the demographics of the United States as a whole.  Something is definitely going on, don't you think?

            1. Live to Learn profile image81
              Live to Learnposted 6 months ago in reply to this

              Yes, Something is definitely going on. It is unfortunate. But I don't believe racism plays a part in the problems I see within the party.

              1. PrettyPanther profile image86
                PrettyPantherposted 6 months ago in reply to this

                You don't see the election of Donald Trump as the GOP candidate as a reflection of at least some racism in the Republican base?  It is hard for me not to see it that way.  I have watched the GOP cater to the lowest common denominator for years, while trying to say they aren't.  Now, they get Donald Trump, who says out loud what previous GOP candidates have done more sneakily to appeal to that 25-30%.  You know, that whole "southern strategy" thing.

                1. Live to Learn profile image81
                  Live to Learnposted 6 months ago in reply to this

                  Donald Trump is running on the Republican ticket. That's all. He is not indicative of 'the party'. I don't know that his base is necessarily registered Republicans. I've heard throughout the primary process that if registered Republicans were the only ones allowed to vote in the primaries that he wouldn't have stood a chance. I read one article which said his strongest supporters were lower income self identified Republicans who were registered as Democrats. Figure that one out.

                  Not that this matters. Except for Kasich I don't think there was a person running whom I felt  I could get enthusiastic about.

                  Racism is not a problem in the Republican party. That is simply something the Democratic party likes to insist on because people listen to simple catch phrases and can vote accordingly.

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image86
                    PrettyPantherposted 6 months ago in reply to this

                    Well, I respectfully disagree.  Here is one example.  The GOP has consistently tried to make it difficult for people to vote, knowing that it would disproportionately affect the economically disadvantaged which, in southern states in particular, disproportionately affects black people.  The GOP knows this.  They also know that voter fraud, the excuse they give for voter suppression legislation, is so negligible as to be almost nonexistent.  They know this, yet they continue on in their attempts to suppress votes.

                    Also, if a party leader endorses an openly racist candidate, is he not, at the very least tolerating racism? If Paul Ryan isn't racist, then he is just a party tool who is willing to endorse a racist for the sake of the party.  Either way, it's pretty slimy.

                    Sorry, I don't think the GOP can have their cake and eat it, too.  If they don't want to be considered racist, then the party needs to stop tolerating, and even endorsing, openly racist people and policies.

                  2. Austinstar profile image76
                    Austinstarposted 6 months ago in reply to this

                    I think you may not understand what racism is and why the Republicans are considered to be the party of racists. It's not a catch phrase, they openly practice racism. It is very obvious and inappropriate behavior to those who can see it.

  2. Austinstar profile image76
    Austinstarposted 6 months ago

    Recently, we had a directive come down from Austin police chief, Art Acevedo. All officers are now to actually question everyone they give a ticket to to ask them "what race are you?".
    My answer is immediate and clear - My 'race' is HUMAN.
    I don't understand racism and never will. I don't get that some people think they are SUPERIOR (or INFERIOR) simply because of what shade of brown their skin is or isn't.
    It's like saying blue eyed people are smarter than green eyed people.
    It is simply a genetic expression of whatever DNA you have inherited.
    For this reason alone, I will not support the Republican party.

  3. colorfulone profile image87
    colorfuloneposted 6 months ago

    Hispanic American voters for Trump rises to 37%, it just keeps rising.

    1. Credence2 profile image86
      Credence2posted 6 months ago in reply to this

      I never heard or seen that, share you source of that with us, please...

      Trump is delusional if he thinks that he has a chance of even being close to competitive in California or New York, as a recent article claims that is what he is shooting for in the general election.

    2. Alternative Prime profile image87
      Alternative Primeposted 6 months ago in reply to this

      37% Support is Pretty DIFFICULT to Achieve when the "REAL Number" here in the "REAL World" is an Overall REJECTION of "Drumpf" Trump by 83% and that number keeps SINKING every time Donald OPENs his Racist MOUTH or displays his Poorly Placed "Hair PLUGz" & Sickly Orange Face on Television ~

      Trump is in the HOLE by approx. 30% here in California ~ If he thinks we here in an "ULTRA-Progressive State" are actually DUMB enough to VOTE for him in November, let him continue on with his "Mental BREAK-Downs & Delusions" ~

      In REALITY, Texas is NOW a Purple STATE and could conceivably turn Democratic BLUE in November ~ Trump is now facing the REALITY that you can't call Hispanics / Latinos "Rapists & Murders" without Suffering Severe Detrimental CONSIQUENCES ~ sad

      1. ahorseback profile image47
        ahorsebackposted 6 months ago in reply to this

        Man , you are actually delusional aren't you A.P. , You should get  a Hub Page  Award for swallowing  liberal  rhetoric hook ,line and sinker !    Your opinions are the perfect example of the actual hypocrisy of the extreme left  who can look right through real life issues  and only pick and chose  "fact " to justify  the agenda of ALL liberals , socialism by whatever means possible .
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        1. Credence2 profile image86
          Credence2posted 6 months ago in reply to this

          Who is deceiving who? What facts are you being deceived by, horsey?
          AP is right, what planet are you living on? Trump has no chance in any traditionally blue state with his idiocy.

          The Texas rightwinger is frantic about repressing the vote of a growing hispanic population that must eventually sap the red from the state.

        2. colorfulone profile image87
          colorfuloneposted 6 months ago in reply to this

          Liberals are more prone to “psychoticism”.
          Time to get the #popcorn
          EPIC CORRECTION OF THE DECADE
          http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 … decade.php

          Here's how liberals roll when reporting scientific research, they reverse the facts.  So, when something like those findings get cited numerous times before being corrected...the brainwashing damage is done.

  4. ahorseback profile image47
    ahorsebackposted 6 months ago

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    A true racist ?  Is someone who can take an entire nation of  people who have all but healed from whatever horrible remnants  of true  racism had existed   for a couple hundred years  and in the last forty to fifty years and all but HEALED !    AND THEN  re-open those very same old and all but healed wounds , intentionally . Also , doing so with a direct and intentional  will to harm a society ,    And here's the kicker ,   perhaps only liberals can answer this ,  He did so why ?

    Because he comes from the  nostalgia   of pseudo- intellectual - divisive  1960's  social re-engineering activist mentality , in other words , stir up the barrel  and while everybody is busy hating , no ones watching what you're really doing ,  as you tear  apart  a constitution ?   

    And one more question , Just how  pretentious  is it to ask a question directly of "Republicans only " ?   I'll tell ALL  liberals something , I'm an older guy , 63 this next winter and I started out  socially maturing  as a liberal in the late  1960's  and seventies during all of the  summer of love  stupidity , during all of the REAL social revolution in America  ,  And I am damned ashamed of the bias , racism , and downright vitriolic hatred  demonstrated  of and by all  liberals today ! 

    THE REAL RACISTS IN THE LAST FIFTEEN YEARS , SINCE RACISM   BEGAN IT'S NEW PHASE OF PRETEND PUBLIC DIALOG  IN AMERICA  , COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE LEFT ,IS PROMOTED BY THE LEFT AND WILL DIE AWAY  FROM  OUR PUBLIC DISCUSSION WHEN THE LEFT DECIDES IT HAS NO  POLITICALLY CORRECT RESULT AND CAN'T ANY MILAGE ANY LONGER !

    1. PrettyPanther profile image86
      PrettyPantherposted 6 months ago in reply to this

      Am I the only one who views your rants as becoming increasingly nonsensical and unhinged?

      1. ahorseback profile image47
        ahorsebackposted 6 months ago in reply to this

        PP.No , of course not   , but that's so typical of the brainwashing of those of the  promised entitlements .
        There are actually a lot of you so don't feel singled out ...........:-]
        I do respect your  will  to stand and be heard  though .

        1. PrettyPanther profile image86
          PrettyPantherposted 6 months ago in reply to this

          Well, you know, there is so much in your rant that is wrong. From my perspective, it becomes a huge waste of time to even engage you.  It is clear you don't want a healthy exchange of rational ideas, since I have taken the time more than once to carefully explain a position to you, and you ignore it.  You just want to rant.  Let me take just one excerpt from your latest:

          "I am damned ashamed of the bias , racism , and downright vitriolic hatred  demonstrated  of and by all  liberals today"

          Since I am a liberal, and since I have been posting on these forums off and on for many years, I would like you to tell me where I have shown racism.  You said "all" liberals, so you should be able to find a few shining examples from me in the six years or so that I have been posting here.  I'll check back periodically for your response.

  5. Castlepaloma profile image22
    Castlepalomaposted 6 months ago

    The idea of liberal is to expand, that is not the job of the Government, only to protect the people wail they expand harmlessly.

    Liberal or Conservative or not doing their job of protecting the people.

    The only true knight or way to save the people is People themselves. The Government are mercenaries for the rich.

    1. ahorseback profile image47
      ahorsebackposted 6 months ago in reply to this

      That may be the nicest thing you''ve said about America ...........:-]

  6. ahorseback profile image47
    ahorsebackposted 6 months ago

    Because P.P. respectfully , I believe that all liberals today and  all democrats if you will ,  although democrats USED to be far more   fiscally responsible ,   have fallen head over heels  for  ALL fully entitlement driven political discussion and agenda .      In other words  I don't see here at least , many people who once were simply democrats !

    What I see and read here  are those who are willfully engaged in an agenda of total socialism .  Or at least socialism as we fully know of it today !   Uncle Sam  , please take care of me !

    AND , something new to the conservative but wholly planned and understood by the new left is  what comes after the discussion of raising minimum wage to $15.00 !  That is a minimum full income  !   In other words   .............screw foreign aid , to hell with defense spending ,  even  Obama care ,  what I want is an  acceptable paycheck from Uncle Sam.

    Conservative America , is really  just now just beginning to fully grasp  the "agenda " of the left ......Socialism !

    Tell me it aint' so .

    1. PrettyPanther profile image86
      PrettyPantherposted 6 months ago in reply to this

      Once again, avoiding the question.  From now on, I will only engage you to correct your factual errors.  Rant away.

  7. Austinstar profile image76
    Austinstarposted 6 months ago

    @ahorseback - you said, "What I see and read here  are those who are willfully engaged in an agenda of total socialism .  Or at least socialism as we fully know of it today !   Uncle Sam  , please take care of me !"

    WTF do you think is the sole purpose of HAVING A GOVERNMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

    We PAY the government to take care of its citizens! We are ENTITLED to have a say in what they do with OUR money!

    We DEMOCRATICALLY ELECT representatives that are SUPPOSED to do their jobs and protect us, our country, our jobs, our welfare, our infrastructure, our foreign relations, our world!

    When the Republicans demonstrate that they will WORK for the people, I will support them. Until then, I will not vote for obstructionism, racism, blatant disrespect for our system, and those that REFUSE to do the job we elected them to do!

    What is so difficult for you to understand about this. It's not rocket science!

    1. ahorseback profile image47
      ahorsebackposted 6 months ago in reply to this

      Well that's it isn't it ?   "The government is here to take care of me "  ............................That was never the intention .


      I really don't need to say any more so I won't!....................No sorry .

      But isn't that exactly what  I'm saying ?

      1. Austinstar profile image76
        Austinstarposted 6 months ago in reply to this

        Ah gee, if only you could answer the question.
        What do think is the main purpose of our governmant?

        1. ahorseback profile image47
          ahorsebackposted 6 months ago in reply to this

          The main purpose of  OUR central [federal ]government is the organized  centrist  organization of fifty  individual state governments to unify ! Period  .

          I suggest you read a fr**kin  history book !  It isn't about a nanny state  government !

  8. colorfulone profile image87
    colorfuloneposted 6 months ago

    Hillary Clinton use to sound a lot like Trump!  Keeping Mexicans out building a wall, etc.  No one calls her racist! 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK6ixvKxw7E

  9. ahorseback profile image47
    ahorsebackposted 6 months ago

    The GOP right now is scrambling to hold control over the Donald , they are also caving in from the inside -that  of an ethics vacuum . The GOP right now is also scrambling to bring up a candidate for a contesting of the convention .As  Paul Ryan is a moderate  who might as well  be a democrat ,  They would rather lose the election to Clinton  than stand solidly behind Trump or any outsider .   

    We all know that both the GOP and the DNC  are experiencing growing pains .   They are extremely afraid of losing their jobs and their collective power of the political purse .  Americans on the street are angry as hell  And want an outsider -  Congress and senate  are power mongers who are willing to destroy the popular vote completely TO KEEP THERE OWN  kinds  in office.

    This election is between the people and the power of office holders , period !

    Do you want more of the same ?

  10. Austinstar profile image76
    Austinstarposted 6 months ago

    Sorry, horseback, but you are the one that is confused. It sucks to get old and wish for the good ol days of slavery and no women voters. I feel sorry for you, stuck in the past.

    1. ahorseback profile image47
      ahorsebackposted 6 months ago in reply to this

      It's political  minions like yourself that have to put labels on the right that simply wants less government oversight over our lives. That's called liberty !   What's the matter can't substantiate with a real fact ?   Obama is a bigger racist than almost any republican , I've ever known Why ? Because he replanted the seeds of hatred  by his activism in matters supporting  his own anti-white bias !

      1. Austinstar profile image76
        Austinstarposted 6 months ago in reply to this

        If you think Obama is a racist, then you are extremely confused as to what racism is.
        But then this is obvious in your confused and twisted posts.

        1. ahorseback profile image47
          ahorsebackposted 6 months ago in reply to this

          You need to look up the meaning  of racism ,   It's the idiocy of shallow ,shallow minds that cannot see it when its used , especially  in reverse ,  when you do look it up ,   take a look in the mirror . Reflections  are  great for the soul, especially errant and shallow ones.

          Most racism actually comes from minorities. Especially true in America these days.

          1. Austinstar profile image76
            Austinstarposted 6 months ago in reply to this

            You are still confused. I am done trying to talk to you. You will never understand racism no matter how hard you try, and you don't even want to try. Have a nice life.

            1. ahorseback profile image47
              ahorsebackposted 6 months ago in reply to this

              Go ahead and run from your own question ! That is how extreme liberals respond to fact .

            2. Alternative Prime profile image87
              Alternative Primeposted 6 months ago in reply to this

              Austinstar ~ Most CONservatives are "FACT-Denyers" just like "FOX Loser Snooze" so don't waste your time trying to Explain and or Educate them, it's FUTILE ~ There is NO Climate Change according to them and the "World is FLAT" ~ sad

              Trump is a RACIST plain and simple & everyone knows it ~ Paul Ryan said it, David Duke Supports him, Nut-Case Hispanic Hater Joe Arpaio supports him, Jeff Sessions supports him, Angry little Weirdo Bobby Knight supports him, etc etc......And ALL who hold Public Office will Pay Dearly for it in November ~

              It's getting so BAD for Trump that according to reports, Cadillac ENDED their Contract & the PGA was Unsuccessful to date at finding a new SPONSOR for their golf event which once was played at Trump's Doral ~ They moved it to MEXICO to add Insult to Injury for Donald ~ Yup, you heard that right ~ smile ~

              Texas is "In-Play" and could very EASILY Convert to the Democratic Side if TURN-OUT is Robust ~

              Trump will NEVER be President because of his Mental INSTABILITY but Democrats must NOT be Complacent ~

              1. Austinstar profile image76
                Austinstarposted 6 months ago in reply to this

                Thank you, AP. It is futile to try to explain things to those that cannot understand basic human concepts. They think they know it all.
                I said to Donald Trump, "You are the most narcissistic person on earth!"
                And he replied, "I don't  see myself that way at all!"
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