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Obama has removed the Pledge of Allegiance from the schools!

  1. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
    Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago

    Obama under the guise of not making new citizens pledge allegiance to this country has removed it from other places including the schools! Surely all others in power will not let this stand, do you think? So many wanted to deny the absence of flags at the DNC but clearly this is what it is all about. The democrats want to do away with America altogether it would appear. Surely the democratic party has some patriots left in it to stand up against this. Do you think?
    I guess this answers Obama's reluctance to place his hand over his heart to this country which has given him so much!
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    1. Dean Traylor profile image83
      Dean Traylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      Really? Because I just did a pledge of allegiance ....at the school I work at.

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        She .........STRIKES...............and......STRIKES.......STRIKES........oh yeah, SHE STRIKES............
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    2. Will Apse profile image91
      Will Apseposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      Surely there is a forum labelled 'nonsense' on this site.

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        There is another word that comes to mind but the forum experience expressly prohibits tart language.

    3. kenneth avery profile image83
      kenneth averyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      @ Jackie, I read a very interesting article a few weeks ago about Hillary being into Globalism and how she would "tenderly" lead her sheep (us) into the ways and ideologies of the world and other nations and in the process, dismantle under the guise or disguise rather of being more tolerant of other races.
      Pretty much the thinking of Obama and even George W. Bush was slightly mentioned in this article along with Rumsfield, so to be fair, it is not "just" Clinton who thinks that America, the name and foundation should be washed away with laws and easy-to-eat slop from her bucket, so can we stand against this cold and unfeeling Globalism?
      Sure. Vote in November is one way.

    4. pagesvoice profile image86
      pagesvoiceposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      I don't know where you are getting your information from, but it is completely false.

      My wife is in her 42nd year working as a school teacher and I know, for a fact, her kids say the Pledge of Allegiance at the start of each school day.

      1. ahorseback profile image51
        ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        The problem is more that they don't know what the pledge means and THAT  isn't being taught to them !

        Your kinda late to the party .

        1. PrettyPanther profile image86
          PrettyPantherposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          No, the bigger problem is people who don't understand the difference between bogus news and real news inflicting their ignorance upon us by voting.. They have that right, but can't they be responsible about it?

        2. Dean Traylor profile image83
          Dean Traylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          No horse boy you probably have no clue what it means yourself (Or its history) and youre extremely late to after all  of this has been proven to be a hoax. It's called reading material critically and clearly. You should try it. Geez! Once again you snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

          1. ahorseback profile image51
            ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            And your victory is ?

            Oh yeaa ,  hypocrisy !

          2. colorfulone profile image88
            colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            "For the left-wing, reality is optional." ~ Dr. Sebastian Gorka

            Sebastian L. Gorka is a national security professional specializing in irregular warfare, including counterinsurgency and counterterrorism. He is the Vice President of the Institute of World Politics in Washington, DC and the Chairman of Threat Knowledge Group. Previously he served as the Major General Matthew C. Horner Distinguished Chair of Military Theory at the Marine Corps University. He is a founding member of the Council for Emerging National Security Affairs and has served as the Associate Dean for Congressional Affairs and Relations to the Special Operations Community at the National Defense University. Gorka is also currently affiliated with USSOCOM’s Joint Special Operations University, and is a regular instructor for the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School in Fort Bragg, as well as the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division. He has testified before Congress on the threat of ISIS and Global Jihadism and briefed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Intelligence Council, the National Counterterrorism Center and the Commandant of the Marine Corps.  ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Gorka

            1. colorfulone profile image88
              colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Dr. Sebastian Gorka: Terrorists Strike Every 83 Hours While Obama, Hillary Clinton Insist ‘Everything Is Fine Here’
              https://counterjihadreport.com/2016/07/ … fine-here/

          3. pagesvoice profile image86
            pagesvoiceposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Well, until you have walked a day in my wife's shoes and observed exactly what happens in her classroom, then you really don't know what is happening in the real world. This is the propaganda that is tearing this country apart. My wife's kids know all too well about the meaning of the Pledge, the sacrifice of Americans and what it means to be American. Sorry for those who go through life with blinders on.

      2. norlawrence profile image86
        norlawrenceposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        If this is true it is terrible.  Total disrespect for the people and country.  Coming from him it is understandable.  When he goes abroad all he does is run the country down.

        1. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
          Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          No Norma I did think it was ABC News but it was a fake one and of course it did not surprise me he would do such a thing but I did apologize and I keep watching the news for when it really happens. lol

          1. colorfulone profile image88
            colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Most likely, what Americas want is free will.
            That's how it is by design.

      3. Barbara Kay profile image85
        Barbara Kayposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Jackie, I have seen you bring up so many of these lies as questions. Please check if they are the truth before you share them.

        1. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          +1

        2. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
          Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          I have a right to ask questions the same as anyone else. I thought it was true and I have apologized. What do you want? And who are you?

          1. Credence2 profile image87
            Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Jackie, do you really think anyone really has the authority do what it is that was claimed in the bogus website? Neither Obama nor anyone else has that kind of power.

            1. gmwilliams profile image84
              gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Credence2, the saying is that if some people are given enough rope, they will hang themselves.  That is what JL is doing............In fact, she has done it...........

      4. Virginia Allain profile image65
        Virginia Allainposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        This is just silly stuff passed around on the Internet to fuel paranoia among conservatives. It isn't true.

      5. tamarawilhite profile image87
        tamarawilhiteposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        It is a fake story.

    5. Rochelle Frank profile image89
      Rochelle Frankposted 3 months ago

      I am not an Obama fan, but I hate to see things like this spread.
      Thankfully, this is not true. Always check your sources.
      http://www.snopes.com/pledge-of-allegiance-ban/

      1. Carb Diva profile image90
        Carb Divaposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        I found the same on Snopes. We need to fact-check before posting.

      2. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
        Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Rochelle (and Carb Diva) my source was ABC so I think I would take their word over Snopes which I have already proved to be a biased liberal rag. I will find it and put here as soon as I can. You will find the ABC link on down. It is happening and it is horrible.
        http://hubpages.com/politics/Is-Snopes- … ing-Search

        1. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/12767337.jpg

    6. psycheskinner profile image80
      psycheskinnerposted 3 months ago

      Wrong, and in the wrong forum, and just so obviously not true.  Wow

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        OOPS SHE HAS DONE IT YET AGAIN.  Will her "wonders" even cease........
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        1. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
          Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Apologies accepted.

          1. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            YOU should apologize to US for posting this outrageous thread.  This thread as in many of your threads are mainly based upon pure conjecture, even prevarication.  This is one of many conjectural, illogical threads that you are quite fond of posting.  Enjoy yourself...........you are way above .....your head.........Stop while you are ahead, PLEASE.........
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            1. kenneth avery profile image83
              kenneth averyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Rod, I miss you.

      2. Jayne Lancer profile image91
        Jayne Lancerposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        +1

        1. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
          Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          I expect apologies but I am sure you liberals would not know the truth if it hit you in the face. Here you go. Make sure you read on down to see this is in schools not just new citizens so you don't embarrass yourself further.
          http://abcnews.com.co/obama-executive-o … in-schools

          http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13151168.jpg

          1. missolive profile image93
            missoliveposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            the website that you are referring to abc.com.co is not the same as abc.com
            Also, if you go to the contact page you will see a photograph of the Westboro Baptist Church as well as a very questionable disclaimer.

            1. gmwilliams profile image84
              gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Oopsie, she did it again........
              Got caught in the spin.........
              Really don't know when...........
              She DID it ......YET AGAIN.........
              Why, oh why.......OH WHY.........

            2. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
              Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              My apologies. My shame will be sufficient for you I am sure.  I had no idea someone could take ABC News name and so I did believe it without a doubt. I am sorry and I will make sure what links I give ever again are the real people. Still Snopes I think as wrong as this place.

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              1. gmwilliams profile image84
                gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                Make this stop.........PLEASE, make it stop.
                http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/12057650.jpg
                You really want to make IT stop,  you called me- I'll see what I.......CAN DO...........
                http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/12801753.jpg
                What can I DO......TO HELP............This have GOT TO STOP........RIGHT NOW.....
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                1. calculus-geometry profile image87
                  calculus-geometryposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  POT ...... MEET ...... KETTLE

                  1. gmwilliams profile image84
                    gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    The OP has THAT gift or shall we say IMMENSE TALENT of creating threads ad infinitum, based upon pure conjecture, never reason.  Our hats are off to......HER.    Give HER the due she deserves..........We SALUTE the OP..........NO ONE can create endless threads as only she can..............

                    OP, we at this forum elect YOU to be the Queen of Creating Threads Based Upon Pure Conjecture & Hyperbole........................................
                    http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/8520317.jpg

                    Simply CAN'T WAIT, even ANTICIPATE what the OP will do next ...............hmmmmmm.................
                    http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/12333657.jpg

              2. Credence2 profile image87
                Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

                Ok, Jackie, I will give you another chance...

                I would sure like to know who is behind the bogus ABC site? Is this some attempt to attack mainstream media? The offending site is politically provacative and pornographic.

                1. gmwilliams profile image84
                  gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  You're SO SWEET, Credence2.................As an adult, it is expected that one should exercise some discernment when visiting sites.  If a site doesn't seem to be legit, then it............ISN'T.....legit.  An 11 year old knows better than that..........Poor Jackie, this is ALL OVER her head.  She is drowning but she refuses to admit it................She is out of her league.........Get out of the political forums, Jackie.....this isn't a game for novices.......GET OUT NOW.........before you reach a point of........NO RETURN........It's BEST to quit while.....ONE is.....AHEAD.........
                  http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13152010.jpg

                  1. Credence2 profile image87
                    Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    True, but she is not the only one, I can think of a couple of others that come to mind without mentioning names.

                2. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
                  Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  I have since found other links with the same material but I am not familiar with them either,

                  1. gmwilliams profile image84
                    gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/12767330.jpg

          2. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/8475682.jpg

            YOU'VE BEEN PROVEN WRONG EACH TIME.  GIVE IT UP.......GIVE IT UP.............
            http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/12165734.jpg

            If you don't stop, Big Mama will have to speak with you................& you don't want that, do you......

          3. RonElFran profile image98
            RonElFranposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Jackie, the site behind the url you post is not the real ABC news, but a spoof.  If you type in abcnews.com (not abcnews.com.co) it will redirect to http://abcnews.go.com/ which is the real ABC news site. The spoof is so poorly done, they don't even do the ABC news logo correctly - they use the wrong font for "abc". Plus, the rest of the stories on the site obviously would not be posted by the real ABC news.

            1. gmwilliams profile image84
              gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              This proves that SOMEONE has extremely poor discernment skills.  The OP has consistently proven this ad infinitum on her posts.  Let's see how the OP will entertain us with more of her "threads".  Can't wait to see what the OP will do next.   The song, "Let Me Entertain You" comes to mind.

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            2. FatFreddysCat profile image91
              FatFreddysCatposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              I was about to post the same thing but I see that I'm late to the party.

              C'mon, you couldn't tell that wasn't the "real" ABC News logo on that site? Seriously? Wow.

              The ".co" after ".com" is another big giveaway. ".co" is the official domain for Colombia, in South America. Why would ABC News use a Colombian host for their web site? big_smile

              ...and that "I love always being right" graphic was the icing on the cake.....

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              1. gmwilliams profile image84
                gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

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                Elizabeth, such hyperbolic conjectures.  It is beyond unbelievable.........Let's the festivities......I mean, GAMES begin.  This is going to be.......SO MUCH FUN.......(evil laughter)..........The OP got the ABC logos......CONFUSED........it's quite laughable.....really(hellish laughter).................

                1. ahorseback profile image51
                  ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  .

                  Not laughable at all given the media today .  I still blame liberals for the mess called Media .

                  1. gmwilliams profile image84
                    gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    It IS laughable.    Reading & discernment are fundamental parts of obtaining verifiable facts. 
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            3. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
              Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Yes I printed a retraction above, I found it was not the ABC and have apologized.

          4. Jayne Lancer profile image91
            Jayne Lancerposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Being British, this doesn't really concern me. What concerns me is the fact that you were on the wrong forum YET AGAIN, this time with two threads posted more or less simultaneously. The other is titled "Why would Obama release so many from Gitmo at such a crucial time?" After reporting, both have now been moved to the Politics and Social Issues forum, where they belong.

            1. gmwilliams profile image84
              gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              I also reported the same thing.  She has been at HubPages for five years & yet doesn't know where to ....POST.... Oh, come now please.

      3. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
        Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13151169_f248.jpg

    7. IslandBites profile image86
      IslandBitesposted 3 months ago

      "Donald Trump Tweets Image Of His Penis – WARNING: Graphic Content
      abcnews -  August 16, 2016 56
      WASHINGTON, D.C. (AP) — Donald Trump has broken all kinds of norms during his presidential campaign, but he just went to a whole new level this morning by tweeting what is supposedly an image of his private-parts. The tweet... "

      "Ted Cruz Will Endorse Donald Trump For President If He Makes Masturbation Illegal
      abcnews -  August 16, 2016 2
      WASHINGTON, D.C. (AP) — U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) sent shockwaves through the Republican Party today when he announced that he would endorse Donald Trump for President, but only if the GOP nominee would be willing to publicly support..."

      The fake ABC News site has fooled folks before and likely will again.

      LOL

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        One would think that adults would have a level of discernment here instead of believing EVERYTHING the media puts out.........
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    8. ahorseback profile image51
      ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

      In Jackie's  defense , We can then all blame the new media  ,  Because I for one   am  constantly amazed by the NEW  liberal media  P.C.     !       It goes to show though that to simply" Google it "   , one will end up with a media  page  of  search results of every possible opinion out there .   And here is the kicker --- Even on   dedicated sights  , ABC , Msnbc,  Fox  ,the newspaper sights ,  all of them  , the actual truth factor of an article is  about  10 %.

      All the more reason for being able to discern reality from fiction .
      Sad but true .

      1. colorfulone profile image88
        colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        I agree and thousands of others agree!

        http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13151935.jpg

        Once in awhile mainstream media will publish an great honest article on a Saturday when people are most likely busy doing other things, then for the rest of the week they will have reporters saying the complete opposite.  Its laughable really!

        ADDED:  Here is a great example from the New York Times, it correctly says "US Proxy War" ... that is TRUE!  I was totally surprised that the NYT was honest about it.  It is a proxy war.

        Military Success in Syria Gives Putin Upper Hand in U.S. Proxy War
        http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/world … .html?_r=0

        Darn good article...maybe its not completely honest, IDK.

        1. colorfulone profile image88
          colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          CNN Selectively Edits Police Shooting Victim's Sister's Words to Protest
          http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kri … ters-words
          That story was broke by News Busters, and honest news site.

          MAINSTREAM MEDIA EDITS VIDEO CALLING FOR VIOLENCE
          Blatant example of distorting the truth by CNN

          Sherelle Smith, sister of the 23 year old killed by police in Milwaukee Saturday called for violence in suburban neighborhoods.

          Both online and on television, CNN edited out Sherelle Smith calling for rioters to take their violence “to the suburbs.”

          Correspondent Ana Cabrera reported Ms. Smith was “calling for peace” in a nationally televised segment Monday on CNN Newsroom, the Washington Times reported.
          http://www.infowars.com/mainstream-medi … -violence/

          This is the kind of sleezy editing that is done to paint Trump in a negative light, while painting Clinton is a positive light.  They spread disinformation!  The Clinton News Network (CNN) is the most dishonest, which is owned by Time Warner, big supporter of the Clinton campaign.   

          CNN's Chris Cuomo: 'We Couldn't Help Hillary Any More Than We Have'
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c16t837WhEg

      2. MizBejabbers profile image91
        MizBejabbersposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        <snipped>, uh back, if you check the ownership of the liberal media, you will find that their owners are extremely conservative masters of dissension. They love to let their media stir up controversy and make it look like "liberals" did it. It makes them lots of greenbacks. Do some research on ownership. Rupert Mucdoch, for instance.

        1. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
          Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          I think everyone here knows that he would do this if he could. Admit it. He will yet if he has time.

          1. PrettyPanther profile image86
            PrettyPantherposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            No, not everyone occupies the same bubble that you do.

            1. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
              Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Well he took out the word God, so he must have something against it. What real American would do that?
              https://youtu.be/T7Q1FQwou70

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              1. PrettyPanther profile image86
                PrettyPantherposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                False. Not true. A hoax.

                http://www.snopes.com/obama-removes-god/

                I don't know whether to laugh or cry. How many more of you are out there?

              2. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                Perhaps the ones that made it in the first place?  You DO know that the reference was added much later?

              3. gmwilliams profile image84
                gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                JL, stop looking at YouTube.  Instead read political articles that are impartial &/or better yet factual.  Come on now, this hyperbolic hypothesis that you are making is becoming......TIRED......Stop IT NOW.....You have SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED your credibility quotient.      I would STOP if I were.....YOU....

    9. Live to Learn profile image81
      Live to Learnposted 3 months ago

      People find the strangest things to get up in arms about. Neither of my kids were expected to say the pledge in school. Both are adults. I suppose Obama's evil liberal reach goes further than I thought.

    10. ahorseback profile image51
      ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

      The media this year is going to lose  the most ,    While gaining  profit from sensationalizing our plights in America  by hits on  network sights , they are losing the readership of the traditional American informed public .  that and an agenda of  social reforming on the side of liberal politics , they  see only the short term profiting  of  dollar signs and totally forget that the American voter came from an origin of  controlled media ,   of tyrannical political power  and divisive rhetoric.   

      I for one hate our media ,  I hate having to  digest 90 % garbage for the small amounts of truth and integrity and  I hate it that accuracy in media  is a long lost art !

    11. Rupert Taylor profile image95
      Rupert Taylorposted 3 months ago

      False websites aside, didn't it even occur to you that the content was bogus? What U.S. President would even think of doing such a thing was my first reaction? I proves the point that some people are so deeply prejudiced against Barack Obama that they will believe anything said against him no matter how scurrilous.

      For your information Jackie, Mr. Obama did not take the Oath of Office with a hand on the Koran. Michelle Obama is not a transgendered man. And, Mr. Obama did not found ISIS.

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Rupert, this isn't the only hyperbolic thread OP started.  She started several of this nature.  She even posted conjectural, hyperbolic sociopolitical questions.  Her wonders continue yet again.   No research into verifiable data but so-called sites which gives hackneyed "information."  That is par for the course for the OP.
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    12. FatFreddysCat profile image91
      FatFreddysCatposted 3 months ago

      He hasn't installed Death Panels, taken away everyone's guns, imposed Sharia Law, or implanted everyone in America with microchips, either. He really needs to get on the stick, he's only got a few months left in office!

      Seriously, man....worst. Tyrannical overlord. EVER.

      1. Live to Learn profile image81
        Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        lol

      2. PrettyPanther profile image86
        PrettyPantherposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        And, he only has a few months left to orchestrate a horrific, large scale national disaster that will give him an excuse to declare martial law and remain in office.

        1. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          He's got to serve a 3rd, even a 4th term.   He has MUCH work to do after all.........  The FEMA camps must be filled...........A civilian militia has to be established.............America as we know it will be......O-V-E-R.........A NEW America will take place.......................Welcome to our wonderful, New America............
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      3. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
        Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        You really believe he is leaving?

        1. Credence2 profile image87
          Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Cmon, do you hard right people really believe the things that you post?what gives you the idea that Obama will overstay his constitutionally mandated max of two 4 year terms?

          If anybody is a threat as a usurper, it is Donald Trump.

          1. Jackie Lynnley profile image77
            Jackie Lynnleyposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            I think he will be controlling Hillary. He has already said he is not leaving DC. He has filled the White House with those doing his will and unless someone cleans house...well...
            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 … -term.html

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            1. gmwilliams profile image84
              gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Oh...........................................I REALLY DON'T....................BELIEVE THIS.   Somebody please SLAP ME................I don't believe that someone would make SUCH STATEMENTS....................Some people.....REALLY..........................beyond description..................
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              This forum is better than any reality show.   JL is the..............prize.  Stay tuned to see what will happen .....NEXT.

              1. PrettyPanther profile image86
                PrettyPantherposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                LOL, love that "look"!

              2. GA Anderson profile image86
                GA Andersonposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                "...I don't believe that someone would make SUCH STATEMENTS....................Some people.....REALLY..........................beyond description.................."
                http://www.restlesspress.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/SnobbyGuy1.jpg

                ...and some people aren't.

                GA

    13. ahorseback profile image51
      ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

      Those who despise the constitution the absolute most are the teachers who stand by  , probably hand over heart ,  and  obey the school directives  letting the kids recite it , YET   while professing  a code of ethics  and feeding from the trough  of education tax dollars , actually teach  these same kids afterwards the" evils" of the country that they just pledged their allegiance to !
      I went to school too.

      Shame on that  Marxist NEA agenda.

      Here's your sign.

      1. Credence2 profile image87
        Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

        But it has been known that conservatives discredit independent thought and inquiry by any student. There is nothing more dangerous within the Rightwing universe than an independent thinker, thus your constant war against the very idea of universal public school and higher education.

        Look around you, horse, the rightwinger is fast going the way of the Passenger Pigeon and in any truly modern society, discredited by all intelligent and thoughful people. You should go hook yourself up to a buggy and acquire a whip.

        There is still time remaining to come away from the Dark Side, horse.

        1. ahorseback profile image51
          ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          The dark side ?     

          The exact definition of the dark side is the systematic indoctrination of undeveloped minds of our youth through out  our education system .    While the practices  and principles of structural  socialism could never stand on their own ;  it is the  subsidization by tax dollars and the NEA and  thus the  acquired attention in classrooms by extreme liberal ideology that  IS of the dark side .

              Your idea of independent thought of liberals - is  the greatest joke of all ! Turning our kids into the   Little Eichmann's  of a Nazi like  thinking process and  leaving this mess  that is   our education system ,   isn't independence , it is actually systematic  mind control !    I'm not even a conspiracy theorist -but one visit to a school these days  is all one needs to see it!

          Proof ?    Look at the inner cities  in America , look at the university systems  ,  look at the welfare systems  ,   look at our health care systems .  Can you spell b-r-o--k-e-n ?  Our kids are dumber  than  fifty  percent of the rest of the world.    Yea ,    liberals can take credit for a lot !

          1. Dean Traylor profile image83
            Dean Traylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            By the way, Horse Boy, Eichmann and the Nazi didn't like liberals....imagine that! You're on the same side, after all. You <snipped> never surprise me with your dim view of history, sociology, or politics. No wonder why you don't like school and "all of that edumacation." You weren't paying attention at all (or getting by with rote memorization that you assume was critical thinking).

            1. ahorseback profile image51
              ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Typical nasty little liberal attacks ,    can't beat the argument, can't win the debate ,can't prove the point    just  call out the half dozen  or so names applied to offend conservative  brilliance ,    even ex-teachers can learn , just   open the door to the mind  the way the kids did ,  Lay the name calling aside.

              Debate the truths or go home .

              1. Dean Traylor profile image83
                Dean Traylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                First off you lost the argument and debate because there was nothing to argue about. Pretty much this thread had been debunked and was done until you had to pipe in and start ranting about things you have no clue of understanding. And when you couldn't win that you resorted to name calling or going off on some communist liberal paranoia trip that made no sense.
                Now, that I gave you a dose of your medicine, you feel attacked or violated? Please! You're a typical  closed minded nut job who thinks there's a cabal  out to get you. Or better yet, that cabal of educated liberals have ruined your chance at success or rejected your writing.
                Here's a thought: if you're going to be the bully, try to grow a pair and stop whining that your feelings were hurt because someone turned the table on you. And, as many of your like mided ilks say :Wake up! Also, stop trying to impose your false concept of truth on others. You can't handle then leave. You've been schooled by a teacher (not ex).

                1. ahorseback profile image51
                  ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  Schooled by a teacher ?   Sorry ,   Today in the real world ,  that's kind of a question mark , but thanks for joining the rest of the hypocrites , you fit in very well . Truly ,   You must be from La La land .  I'll check later  but that's my guess .

                  Conservatives don't lose arguments and debates  ,   sooner or later liberals change their minds ............Again.

                  1. Dean Traylor profile image83
                    Dean Traylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    Lose argument? You did. I bet you're a tough talker on the forum. Especially when you finally get back to mothers basement and log on (or is it dial up?

                  2. Dean Traylor profile image83
                    Dean Traylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    BTW I can tell when you're reaching. The phrasing in your last response was rushed and a bit convoluted. Slow down, think it through....right now, your statement are hilariously predictable....IM sure your twitching to use liberal as a pejorative, again, but know to use it to make your point without contradicting yourself. Over and over again.

      2. Dean Traylor profile image83
        Dean Traylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        You probably never read the constitution. Who are  we kidding?

        1. Dean Traylor profile image83
          Dean Traylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          That's for horse, by the way.

    14. Sychophantastic profile image83
      Sychophantasticposted 3 months ago

      The sad fact of the matter is that no intelligent, educated person would ever believe the claim made in this forum or would ever be sucked into any online article claiming such a thing. However, an intelligent person would probably start to question the validity of much of the other stuff they were reading.

    15. ahorseback profile image51
      ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

      It's truly too bad that  our news media today is so saturated to begin with  untruths .  It has  also become the latest tool of leftists  to flood our media with" News "opinions tracking completely to outright lies !    Blame the socialist brainwashing left for that . Not the people who fall for these pages of garbage . !

      ANYONE who's been here for awhile knows one thing , No longer is there accuracy , integrity or truth in the American Media !

      Why doesn't ABC for one , do something about that ?

      1. PrettyPanther profile image86
        PrettyPantherposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        LOL, your brain must be on fire from the mental gymnastics you went through for that tortured excuse.

        Jackie and her equally fact-challenged cohorts are referencing right wing fake news sites yet you twist yourself in knots to claim the "liberal media" boogeyman is to blame.

        Freakin' hilarious.

        1. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          +1,000,000,000,000,000,000.......................
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      2. Sychophantastic profile image83
        Sychophantasticposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        PrettyPanther hit the nail on the head. Fundamentally, educated people don't believe all these conspiracy theories. I think it's probably unfair to call people who believe this stuff morons. It's largely lack of education. They haven't been trained to think objectively. Sadly, a lot of these people are highly religious and they've been brainwashed by their religious institutions.

        Fox News, Breitbart, Drudge - all these sites have been objectively shown to be full of lies (not entirely, but mostly. Which is not to say mainstream media doesn't peddle some untruths). Just look at what Fox is peddling now: the polls are fake, not accurate. Hillary Clinton has some kind of health crisis. It's just a joke.

        And the fact we're even talking about this is a joke. The right-wing has cast science as a liberal institution. Science is no longer trustworthy. Climate change is a hoax. There's no such thing as the greenhouse gas effect! If the right-wing understood the science, they would be able to draw accurate conclusions. However, not only does the right-wing not understand the science (or just want to shill for big oil, who is mostly behind all the "climate change is a hoax" stuff), they simply believe the conclusions drawn by their media. This is simply just a debate between the uneducated and the educated.

        1. Rupert Taylor profile image95
          Rupert Taylorposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Poor education is certainly a factor but I'm not sure you can blame all this on that. A person of my acquaintance has a degree in economics from a decent university. Here is a recent conversation:
          Him: "Obama is a Muslim."
          Me: "No he's not."
          Him: "Where have you been?"
          Back to the education thing, it's noticeable that many of the apologists for the right-wing in this thread use very poor grammar and spelling.

          1. Sychophantastic profile image83
            Sychophantasticposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Certainly not the only factor. I work at a major research University and I don't know a single person who holds any of these views. While there are conservatives, even those conservatives don't hold those views. They just believe in less government and the free market.

        2. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

          1. Sychophantastic profile image83
            Sychophantasticposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Apparently, Scientific American has come out against Donald Trump for his anti-science views. Nobody who respects science should vote for Donald Trump.

        3. ahorseback profile image51
          ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          That's a crap shoot definition of what's wrong with our media ,   The blame you place on  right -wing  media  is  just as bad as what you DON"T say about left wing media !   Lets face  it - REAL intelligent people are able to sift through it all to make their own  determinations of truth . 

          It is my belief that  young people and   especially  college  educated people means little as to social , political ,  maturity .  Name a liberal media outlet  , and there are dozens   that wouldn't know Truth if it bit them in the  a$$.

          Brietbart , is one of the variety  that have some good and some bad  pundits , You think it's any better on the left - welcome to the cool aid stand !

          1. Sychophantastic profile image83
            Sychophantasticposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Whatever. You are the side of anti-science (otherwise known as anti-fact). You are the side of paranoia and fear. Just look at all the imagined stuff Trump has come up with. Trump supporters are cowering in fear of ISIS supporters coming across our borders and ISIS attacks on our soil. Trump supporters are afraid of Mexican rapists. Trump supporters believe he will build a wall. While you can certainly find an example of some of this stuff, it's hardly an issue in the daily lives of 99.9%of Americans. Meanwhile, more people are being deported in this country than ever before and the vetting of people coming into this country is more thorough than ever before. And amazingly, there's an incredibly simple solution to the illegal immigrant problem - punish companies that hire them. Put those companies out of business if they use illegal immigrant labor. Problem solved. If there are no jobs here, there is no illegal immigration problem. Your side covets stupidity and promotes stupidity and fear.

    16. ahorseback profile image51
      ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

      You guys can bash JL all you want , there is however an meteoric tendency  for socialism in Obama's  political agenda .       It wouldn't  be hard at all to imagine , given Obama's indoctrination ,  the  manifest of the education system towards socialism .

      Oh yea , he already has that !

      1. Sychophantastic profile image83
        Sychophantasticposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        And you know what's tremendously amusing, you wrote something interesting about the media above somewhere. I can't stand the media myself. I no more want to hear the opinion of Scott Baio about politics than I do Martin Sheen. I don't care how much a celebrity may agree with my politics, they don't know jack about anything most of the time their opinions are worthless. They're promoting themselves, that's all. That said, the way media feed us the news is largely a reflection of a very stupid population of non-thinkers.

     
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