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Is Donald Trump Wrong?

  1. GA Anderson profile image86
    GA Andersonposted 8 weeks ago

    First and foremost, I am not a Trump supporter, but current crime and life-style statistics do point out that Democrat  controlled cities and counties are ranking as the worst in the U.S.

    So, if you evaluate his recent statements about Democrat rule in these cities and counties, is he wrong? Does his "what do you have to lose" question have validity?

    Is he a racist for even asking that question?

    My view is that he is right, (arghhhh, the pain), so how do you dispute his point?

    Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, all cities that have dominated the news for civil rights atrocities, are also all Democratic controlled governments. Does 2+2=4? Does Trump have a valid point? Have the Democrats failed their constituents?

    From gun control to affirmative action, these Democrat controlled cities have failed their citizens. Yet Trump is portrayed as a racist for pointing this out.

    What say you?


    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      You dispute his point by playing the race card and diverting attention from what he said.  It is so much more useful (in keeping votes) than actually discussing the problems and having to admit the failure he talks about.

    2. PrettyPanther profile image86
      PrettyPantherposted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      I would say that:

      1) He is not necessary wrong, nor is he necessarily right.  I did a cursory look at the most and least crime-ridden cities, for example and many Democratic-controlled cities are among the least crime ridden.  This is just one factor you mentioned, but my point is that I believe it is impossible to determine the accuracy of his premise without an in-depth look at all of the things you mentioned (crime, lifestyle statistics, affirmative action, civil rights atrocities).  I live in the northwest and Portland and Seattle, for example, are consistently listed among the most livable big cities and they are also consistently Democratic-run cities.

      2)  I do not think Trump pointing out that some of the large urban areas with the most problems are Democratic-controlled is necessarily racist. I do, however, think that he is using a simplistic talking point to bolster his candidacy which, of course, all politicians do.  And, this particular talking point is one that is easily swallowed by his base, which is pre-disposed to blame Democrats for the woes of large urban areas like Baltimore and Detroit.

      1. GA Anderson profile image86
        GA Andersonposted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

        You are right PrettyPanther, my OP did not include a possible counter-balance of least crime-ridden Democrat controlled cities. Or the other factors you mentioned. You raise the point of their pertinence to the OP's question. Hmm...

        Judging from the notes on my knee, my point wasn't intended to be an in-depth evaluation, just an observation. I will check that out and get back to you.


  2. ahorseback profile image56
    ahorsebackposted 8 weeks ago

    The political  left never will admit self involvement in the socio -economic issues or  its cause of the day ,  Its too  easy to lay blame elsewhere  , as with the cure ,  cause and affect is too easy to  avoid ,  when they finally do acknowledge the problem  , they will then rely on the system to cure it all .   And that cure  will always be at the expense of ALL others.

    Trump is speaking a new language - it's called  reality ,  it's called  lets clean it up and stop waiting  for a government to do it ,  that is more a part of the problem than the solution .  My hope and the GOP systems fear is that he goes in shaking the system up totally , from the top down for once !

    1. PrettyPanther profile image86
      PrettyPantherposted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      Thank you for illustrating some of the points I made in my post.