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Obama says - Its a personal insult if black voters don't back Clinton

  1. ahorseback profile image51
    ahorsebackposted 2 months ago

    Sounds kind of racist to me  ,  It just reminds me though that racism plays a huge part FROM  the positions  minorities too .   90 percent of Black voters voted for Obama , proving racism exists  in the black community ,   now he says this ,  I wonder when the media will call out racism where  racism TRULY exists ?   

    The utter simplicity of racism and hypocrisy is that they dwell especially IN the minority ?

    1. Live to Learn profile image82
      Live to Learnposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      That's pretty low of him. Not surprised. It will take low talk and dirty tactics to keep the voters in the dark until November.

    2. colorfulone profile image90
      colorfuloneposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      Well, that's good news really, because the Democratic party must be in a panic about losing the Black Voters.  There are far less willing to support Hillary than any other Democrat running for president from what I read.   More and more people are waking up and deciding to support Trump, because they are researching and thinking for themselves. 

      Last I saw a couple weeks ago:
      Clinton 70%  (shrinking)
      Trump  30%  (growing)

    3. Credence2 profile image87
      Credence2posted 2 months ago in reply to this

      Cmon, horse, lets not banter over the ridiculous. Obama was referring to his policy initiatives and who would be most likely to continue them. Yes, we are pro Obama, better have an disagreement between friends than to embrace a mortal enemy, yes?

      I think Republicans suck and so believes much of the Black community, I don't need to test the winds to tell you that. Trump will be lucky to get 5 percent of the Black vote, and I don't care what infowars says

      How many times do I have to tell conservatives? Blacks vote constantly Democrat, because the other party dismisses them in its entirety. That has been true in large part since the sixties. So what rock have you been hiding under for over 50 years? So, Einstein, it is about the association with Democratic Party not Obama and Black, get it?

      But you have to wonder on what plantation do Jews and Asians live on, they are traditionally heavy Democratic voters? Trump's theme of xenophobia will certainly play well with them?

      1. ahorseback profile image51
        ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

        What you REALLY mean is conservatives fail to recognize Blacks ONLY  ;first and foremost like Obama  . Just can't get by being equal to everyone else  can they ?

        And Hillary has delivered SO much for blacks in America ? Yes ?  Oh , promises -only don't count ?

        Watch what happens , in spite of your wishes black voters are on the Trump train .

        I don't even" hate" democrats , but interesting term there Credence !

        1. Credence2 profile image87
          Credence2posted 2 months ago in reply to this

          I will be watching, horse, to see Trump and the Republicans deliver on so much MORE...

          1. ahorseback profile image51
            ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

            No , It is attitudes resembling yours that are weighing the benefits of how to vote , that you're watching !

            Can I get more entitlements  if I vote to continue his policies ?
            Can I gain more personally if I vote for Hillary over Trump  ?
            What do I get out of this election ?
            How will my Democratic vote serve me ?

            Does any of this sound  familiar ? This is the agenda of the new left .

            1. Credence2 profile image87
              Credence2posted 2 months ago in reply to this

              No, horse, it sounds like just more BS from the 'old right'.

              We both know that you have no use for Farrakhan and the Black Muslim group he represents, but since he attacks Obama, now he is your bud?

              How fickle!!!

              What you think is quite clever is actually quite transparent for anyone that has two eyes that can see.

              1. ahorseback profile image51
                ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                Credence  , The difference is ,  IS    when they say something TRUTHUL !     Listen to  Alveda King, she  is one of my hero's  , Why ? Because SHE is honest !    When Farrakhan says something HONEST  I listen  . 

                Try honesty sometime !

                1. Credence2 profile image87
                  Credence2posted 2 months ago in reply to this

                  Honest meaning that Farrakhan says something that supports your Obama baiting agenda?

    4. GA Anderson profile image86
      GA Andersonposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      How does 90 percent of Black voters voting for Obama prove racism exists  in the black community?

      It sounds like you are saying a Black voting for a Black, because he is black is racist. Is that your intention? I just think it is dumb, I don't get the racism part. And since you said it was simplicity itself, now I have to worry about what I missed. Or who is missing what.

      GA

      1. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 2 months ago in reply to this

        Is putting a man in the white house purely because he has black skin really different than putting him in the back of the bus...purely because he has black skin?

        1. Credence2 profile image87
          Credence2posted 2 months ago in reply to this

          You both are off, if I selected Obama solely due to fact that he was a Black Man, I would be guilty of bias. But, let me tell you that I would never vote for Herman Cain or Alan Keyes, as it has nothing to do with the candidate being Black. If the candidate does not mesh with my ideological and political stance, it doesn't matter what color you are, he or she will not get my vote.

        2. PrettyPanther profile image86
          PrettyPantherposted 2 months ago in reply to this

          Why do you assume that they voted purely for his black skin? Clinton is projected to receive an even higher percentage of votes from blacks than Obama did. I'm thinking they view Democratic policies more favorably than Republican policies.

          1. ahorseback profile image51
            ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

            Yea !.............. That's really working out for blacks in the inner cities isn't it ,? Lots of brands new jobs in the inner city too , No ?     And how about that crime rate , it's gone isn't it ?     How about the great education system in the ghetto ?  That's  spitting out genius'  Yes ?   

            So tell us just how Voting for another Clinton is going to be an act of celebration in  Ferguson Mo.  , Charlotte  Sc. , Baltimore Md.   Chicago Ill.  ...............................You can chime in anytime their Credence ..........Yeaa  ! Vote Hillary  !

            Oh,  I got it wrong again ?  Or are you blinded by the  systematic breakdown in EVERY ONE of the democratic run inner cities  ?

            1. Credence2 profile image87
              Credence2posted 2 months ago in reply to this

              Yeah, I'll chime in. Besides running his mouth, what has Trump proposed to do about the problems?While the current situation needs improving, going backwards is not the solution.

              Why take a chance with an unknown who despite his expedient rhetoric has a record of hostility to Minorities and their aspirations?

              Pretty simple concept, really, I am surprised that you are not picking it up.

              1. wilderness profile image96
                wildernessposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                Stop and frisk.  More police protection and involvement.

                What has Clinton proposed?

                1. Credence2 profile image87
                  Credence2posted 2 months ago in reply to this

                  Trump has proposed bringing back the concept of "stop and frisk", which did not pass Constitutional muster when taken to court. The idea that extra legal attempts to violate 4th amendment protections guranteed to us all can have an exception apply to the inner city will not stand. I think Clinton is smart enough not to get on board with this as a continued source of harrassment within the Black community.

                  1. wilderness profile image96
                    wildernessposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                    Won't argue that stop and frisk is unconstitutional: it is.

                    What has Clinton proposed?

                2. colorfulone profile image90
                  colorfuloneposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                  Mayor Rudy Giuliani cracked down on crime in New York, and one tactic used by officers was stop and frisk.  It worked fast!  It would work in Chicago, Detroit, wherever the crime rate is high.  I don't think that's racist, its a smart tactic. I think law abiding citizens would welcome it in high crime areas.  Its not based on skin color, but race baiters would try to make it about that.  If it saves lives and stops crime! 

                  Trump praises 'stop-and-frisk' police tactic at African-American town hall
                  47 seconds:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ozGvuwDks

                  Take the guns away from criminals with stolen or otherwise illegal guns.  Its pretty simple to me.  Make sure a person is carrying legally.

                  1. colorfulone profile image90
                    colorfuloneposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                    ADDING:  America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he took office in New York City the murder rate was about 2,500 per year, and he drove it down to about 500 per year.  Stop & Frisk! 

                    http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13206097.jpg
                    Trump, Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks

              2. ahorseback profile image51
                ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                We Don't know what Trump will do is right , And Hillary has made so many changes   as part of the TWO Obama terms , her reign in Senate and as first lady of the governor ?

                I know one thing , when there has been --O-- change for eight years  --- I will vote for a promise over a pi$$ poor record any day !

                1. Credence2 profile image87
                  Credence2posted 2 months ago in reply to this

                  A promise based on what? He doesn't deserve receiving any credibility.

                2. Ivan Tod profile image60
                  Ivan Todposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                  but wasn't it promises that got obama elected?... promises that he, like every other president before him, made in order to get elected. As far as --O-- changes go, where have you been? Illegals now get free everything even though the rest of us get penalized for not buying something those illegals get for free...health insurance, the police, who've always been partial to killing blacks, now seem to have license to do it at will without provocation while leaving no recourse for their victims families  etc. etc.. There's been more change in america over the last 8yrs at the hands of obama than I care to think about. At least with trump what you see is what you get, no surprises. clinton, on the other hand is very suspect in her credibility and intentions, but at least at her age we won't have to worry about a PMS driven nuclear world war.

                  1. ahorseback profile image51
                    ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                    Perhaps , Except that I could see through the empty promise , the empty suit of Obama's campaign !     Hillary's promise is full on perfectly rhetoric ! - she's shown that over and over --   Trump at least is a businessman who HAD to make something successful  out of such promise . 

                    The difference , Promise WITH progress !

            2. PrettyPanther profile image86
              PrettyPantherposted 2 months ago in reply to this

              What the h***? This response has nothing to do with my comment. I don't know if it's just me but your posts are increasingly weird, like you aren't even reading what I write.

              1. ahorseback profile image51
                ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                You don't enjoy forums at all when the debate turns against your bias do you ?

                1. PrettyPanther profile image86
                  PrettyPantherposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                  You didn't even address the main point of my comment, which is that it is erroneous to assume blacks voted for Obama simply because he is black.  Clinton is polling an even greater percentage of black voters than did Obama.  Is it because she has pretty pink cheeks?

                  I suppose since women support her in greater numbers you think it's because she's a woman? 

                  You are the one who avoids real debate, since you rarely address the actual point and go off on your Reverse Racism Rant #Umpteen at every possible opportunity.

                  I'll check back to see if you stay on point or just continue with your rant that I've seen so often now I could probably regurgitate it on command.

                  1. ahorseback profile image51
                    ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                    My points must bother you incredibly , in order for you to remain on the defensive , perhaps you need to reconnoiter  your true feelings about Trump and Hillary .  I think almost everyone realizes by now that the trump victory means a far better America , A Hillary win means the spiraling down of American values !   
                    Stop drinking the liberal cool aid .

                  2. Live to Learn profile image82
                    Live to Learnposted 2 months ago in reply to this

                    I remember the first election Obama won. I go to the polls early before work. It's usually a quick in and out. On this particular occasion the line to vote was a good 1/8 mile long. The sea of faces were definitely, completely, black.

                    Blacks didn't elect Obama alone but anyone who says blacks didn't vote for him because he is black is ill informed. These people at my polling station were there for a reason. Which is certainly their right, but let's be honest please.

        3. ahorseback profile image51
          ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

          Forget it man , They will never understand the epitome of racism in process of screaming " racism" !

        4. GA Anderson profile image86
          GA Andersonposted 2 months ago in reply to this

          How do you equate the power of choice with a lack of choice?  While your bus seating example certainly seems a racist act to me, voting based on skin color seems at worst to be a dumb decision. There are several descriptors that I think might apply; biased, prejudiced, or maybe even arrogant... but I don't think racist fits the slot.

          So yes, I think the two are different.

          GA

    5. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      Obama has done more to move america towards socialism than any president before him, and I kinda like my democratic republic, and now he wants us to keep america moving in that direction by electing what's-her'-name clinton! Even if one is partial to a socialist government run by someone with so much too prove, clinton is a security risk and a fabricator of contrivences the first being that she made claim to being a "New Yorker" only a few days after buying property in westchester county. The reason being that she needed to establish residency to run for senatorship. More importantly is her disregard for security procedures. If she's gonna lie about things she could at least make a reasonable attemp at plausibility.

    6. colorfulone profile image90
      colorfuloneposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      I listened this video a day or so ago, and was stunned. 

      VIDEO – Bill Clinton: Rebuild Detroit with Syrian Refugees
      http://www.breitbart.com/2016-president … -refugees/

      According to a September 2015 Rasmussen survey, 85 percent black voters oppose Clinton’s refugee agenda to admit more than 100,000 Middle Eastern refugees—with less than one percent of black voters (.56 percent) in favor of her refugee plan.

      I read that the Obama Administration has spent $770 million to renovate Mosques overseas.

      1. ahorseback profile image51
        ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

        I'm not surprised , perhaps blacks are afraid  of the hy-jacking of the media sympathy factor and proves reverse racism  exists  !

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      frumpletonposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      I don't believe Obama said that

    8. colorfulone profile image90
      colorfuloneposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      This black man is smart and spells out a big problem for Black Americas.

      Bill Clinton admits he's destroyed millions of black men with prisons
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUHtFi_zjq0

  2. colorfulone profile image90
    colorfuloneposted 2 months ago

    Farrakhan Tells Obama, “Let Trump Do Want He Wants, You Failed Inner City Blacks”

    Sunday at the Men’s Day program hosted at Union Temple Baptist Church in Washington, DC, Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan said to President Barack Obama, “Your people are suffering and dying in the streets,” of Chicago, so “you failed to do what should have been done.”

    Farrakhan continued  by saying it is time to let Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump do “what he wants to because he is not destroying your legacy.”

    Farrakhan said, “So you Democrats, you been in their party a long time. Answer me, what did you get? You got a president. He is worried about his legacy. You want Hillary to get in to protect your legacy because Trump said the minute he gets in, he is going to reverse the Affordable Care Act. Because that is your signature achievement. To show you how hateful the enemy is, he hates that you achieve what you did achieve. So he said I’m going to tear it up when I get in. So he don’t want his legacy destroyed. Mr President, let the man do, if he get in, what he wants to because he is not destroying your legacy. If your legacy is bound up in an Affordable Care Act that only effects a few million people and they are trying to make it really difficult for those of us who signed up, that’s not your legacy.

    He continued, “But I just want to tell you, Mr President, you’re  from Chicago and so am I. I go out in the streets with the people. I visited the worst neighborhoods. I talked to the gangs. And while I was out there talking to them they said ‘You know, Farrakhan, the president ain’t never come. Could you get him to come and look after us?’  There’s your legacy, Mr. President, it’s in the streets with your suffering people, Mr. President. And If you can’t go and see about them, then don’t worry about your legacy. Cause the white people that you served so well, they’ll preserve your legacy. The hell they will. But you didn’t earn your legacy with us. We put you there. You fought for the rights of gay people. You fought for the rights of this people and that people. You fight for Israel. Your people are suffering and dying in the streets! That’s where you legacy is. Now you failed to do what should have been done.”


    http://truthfeed.com/farrakhan-tells-ob … cks/25058/

    You set Obama straight, Mr. Farrakhan, because his legacy isn't worth saving.

    1. ahorseback profile image51
      ahorsebackposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      In America  , it's the only possibility  right now where it takes a black man to tell a black president to straighten up his act , Why ?  Because a divisive and false  rhetoric dictated that  the anointed one cannot be criticized  for anything  because it immediately comes across as" Racism ".
      Fact !

      1. colorfulone profile image90
        colorfuloneposted 2 months ago in reply to this

        Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan message was loud and clear until he got to "You fight for Israel".   The opposite is true, there's a complete timeline of Obama not/or fighting for Israel.  Otherwise, Farrakhan gets a high-five from me...not for much else otherwise.

        He is doing much better than Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson on my poison "Skittles"  radar.  IMHO

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      frumpletonposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      I don't qualify for the Affordable (what a joke!) Care Act.  Supposedly, I can't afford to spend $28 a month on the cheapest insurance they offer.  Funny, though -- I looked up on the internet about Medicare, since I'll be 65 in 2 years.  Guess what?  Medicare will be more than happy to bill me over a $100 a month (But I can't afford $28!).  But Trump is not the friend of anyone who isn't lily white or an upper class citizen.  Don't let him fool you

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    malikjamilposted 2 months ago

    yes

  4. PhoenixV profile image78
    PhoenixVposted 2 months ago

    The "you didnt build that "  guy is worried about his own image lol. No surprise there. Obama is a legacy in his own mind.

  5. Alphadogg16 profile image89
    Alphadogg16posted 2 months ago

    Stop and Frisk? More Police involvement? At this point in time, there isn't very many Blacks that will vote for this, For the same Police that consistently have questionable run ins with Black men that end up losing their life. As a Black man, I'm not going to vote for any one based on the color of their skin. In my opinion Hillary is an idiot, and Trump is an even bigger idiot. Either way you look at it, America is spiraling down out of control, and it's not Obama's fault, although he has done some bonehead moves. These issues started way before Obama's term.

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      frumpletonposted 2 months ago in reply to this

      I agree.  But if Trump wins, you will have someone in office much like my loud-mouthed, racist governor of Maine, Paul LePage.  He has claimed that 90% of drug dealers in Maine impregnate Maine's white women and are all responsible for the drugs.  He has been pressured to resign, but he is a stubborn a-hole.  Trump is just like him:  stubborn, vain (thinking they are smarter than everyone else) loud-mouthed, sarcastic, and only caters to those with money.

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        frumpletonposted 2 months ago in reply to this

        LePage says the 90% of drug dealers are black or hispanic and come from other states.  Meanwhile, the FBI checked out his erroneous statements about this.  There were only 40% of blacks and/or hispanics, compared to 60% of white people.

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          frumpletonposted 2 months ago in reply to this

          I am caucasian, if that makes a difference.  I think Trump and LePage are both bigots

        2. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 2 months ago in reply to this

          That's hard to believe, that 40% of drug dealers are black or Hispanic, when blacks and Hispanics make up only 2% of the population of Maine.  Are you sure of those figures?

 
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