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Hillary Clinton, the FBI, and the GOP Investigations

  1. peoplepower73 profile image88
    peoplepower73posted 4 weeks ago

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    What is it exactly that the FBI and the GOP are looking for with Hillary's emails?  She has already been exonerated with the Benghazi investigations, but yet the GOP says it has enough material to keep the investigations going for another four years.  She has admitted to carelessness in the managing of emails on her servers and they found no acts of criminal intent.  There were nine Benghazi investigations that costs tax payers 7 million dollars and yet they want to continue for four  more years if she is elected president.  Tell me exactly why this has to continue.  The GOP has turned out to be the party of obstruction instead of construction.  Their entire job was to make Obama a one term president and they failed.  Then they obstructed his every move and he succeeded in spite of them.

    1. wilderness profile image97
      wildernessposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

      "...they found no acts of criminal intent."

      Untrue.  They found lots of criminal acts (100+), but did feel that they could prove intent beyond a reasonable doubt.  "Reasonable" being defined by jurors that wouldn't give a guilty vote regardless of what their goddess did.

      To honest folk, repeating the same crime 100 times over 50 email threads pretty much describes intent.  Or, at a minimum, that the perp didn't care if their actions were illegal or not.

      1. Alternative Prime profile image84
        Alternative Primeposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

        You've made my POINT 4 me ~

        Despite what "Batty" Rudy Guiliani or INCOHERENT Sean Hammerhead BABBLE about, in REALITY, there's a WORLD of Difference between "Inadvertant" & "CRIMINAL Intent" the latter of which you'll NEVER find in relation to Hillary's E-MAILs but will certainly find in ABUNDANCE Against "Comrade Donald" via "YOU-Tube" etc ~

        I think Republicans around here need to LEARN what "Criminal INTENT" means ~ When they do, they'll IMMEDIATELY Drop the Hillary "Witch HUNT" & TURN the TORCHEs & Uncontrollabe ANGER toward the Rightful Party, "Comrade Donald" ~

        1. wilderness profile image97
          wildernessposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

          You seem to have skipped over the part about "Reasonable" being defined by jurors that wouldn't give a guilty vote regardless of what their goddess did."  A rather important part, don't ya know?

          1. peoplepower73 profile image88
            peoplepower73posted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

            Wilderness:  So you know that for a fact, that they are going to look at her as their goddess.  The same as Trump supporters, look at him as their savior, albeit he has accosted all those women and denies it. He has the gaul to say he is going to sue each and everyone of them.  I have come to the conclusion that every negative thing that he says about people is really about him and he is afraid to admit it to himself. so he attacks others as a cover up of his own inferiority. In psychology, it is called "projection." 

            "Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others."

    2. Live to Learn profile image81
      Live to Learnposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

      Since the FBI works for a Democratic administration I'm not sure why you lump the two together. The FBI found what could be new evidence. They are reviewing it. Are you suggesting that no one review any evidence that is connected to Hillary, even if it might show she had done something illegal? Can you explain why Hillary would be treated differently from any other citizen?

    3. dianetrotter profile image82
      dianetrotterposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

      I'm hoping for a third party that I can proudly become a member of.  I think Comey new what he was doing.  It puts me in a position to say that this is unfair to Hillary Clinton.  I in no way support hear and did not vote for her.

      At the same time, I agree with Alternative Prime.  There is so much that Trump should be held accountable for. It's possible that FBI or IRS is investigating.  Since we know about lying Hillary, why can't we get a heads up on deplorable Donald.

      We can all then vote for a write in candidate of our choice.

      1. Alternative Prime profile image84
        Alternative Primeposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

        Well Hi diane & Thank U I think ~ smile smile

        I ENTHUSIASTICALLY Voted 4 Hillary & DOWN Ballot Progressive Dems & here's WHY ~ First of ALL, as U know, Hillary has NEVER, I repeat NEVER Comitted a CRIME in her LIFE, unless of course "Exaggerating" on the Campaign Trail Constitutes one but I doubt it, and Compared to "Pathological LIAR" Trump there is ZERO Comparison as "FACT-Checking" Web-SITEs have Consistently given that Dubious Title to "Drumpf" ~

        Trump's HORRIBLY Appalling HISTORY aside, here's what Hillary STANDs 4 & FIGHTs 4 & my Primary Reason 4 VOTING 4 her ~

        * Hillary will fight for HIGHER Wages 4 ALL Americans, Donald will LOWER Wages
        * Hillary will STRENGTHEN Social Security & Medicare for our SENIORs. Donald will try to Dismantle it
        * Hillary will fight 4 AFFORDABLE or FREE College for OUR Young Adults, Donald will give TRILLIONs to Corporations instead
        * Hillary will Address "CLIMATE Change", Donald thinks it's a HOAX Perpetrated by his Buddies in CHINA
        * Hillary will fight for "Gay Rights", Donald BASHEs Gays & Everyone else
        * Hillary will fight for Womans RIGHTs & Equal Pay for Women, Donald INSULTs, Assaults & Abuses Women

        Just a PARTIAL List of WHY I Enthusisatically Support Hillary ~ When U REMOVE ALL the Distracting "NOIZE" produced by FOX Loser Network etc, there really is no choice, Hillary 4 President & Donald for a PRISON Cell, Moscow or Psychiatric WARD ~

        P.S. ~ When the FBI / CIA Conclude an INVESTIGATION of Trump it's gonna' be ENLIGHTENING to say the LEAST

        1. Credence2 profile image86
          Credence2posted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

          Can't deny that makes a pretty enticing platform, just waiting for the landslide next week. We need to take the Senate too, to make sure that Clinton court nominees are not unconstitutionally obstructed.

          1. Alternative Prime profile image84
            Alternative Primeposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

            Hillary will WIN in a Landslide, but ALL Dems still need to VOTE to ENSURE a "CLEAR Message" is sent to Republicans that this "GREAT Country" will NEVER Tolerate another Deranged "National DISGRACE" of an ANTI-American, Communist Sympathizing, Racist Woman HATING CLOWN like Trump Again ~

            * MILLIONs have already VOTED in Florida & Approx. 28% of REPUBLICANs have REJECTED "Woman HATER" Trump & CROSSED Over to VOTE for Hillary ~ This is UNPRECEDENTED but Not Surprising considering there is an ENORMOUS "Never Trump" Demographic & Enormous Minority Population in the State, not to mention WOMEN, ALL of whom are Sending the MESSAGE that this Deranged, HATE Filled Demon named DRUMPF who INSULTs POWs, Disabled & OUR Military, will NEVER become President of the United States ~ smile

        2. dianetrotter profile image82
          dianetrotterposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

          I agree that EVERYTHING Hillary has done pales in comparison to what Deplorable Trump has done.  I believe she wants to do go things.  She needs to surround herself with smart people that want to help her accomplish that end let her know when her ideas are ridiculous.

          I can't support her saying she "landed in Iraq under heavy gunfire."  That doesn't help anyone but her image unless the claim is debunked which it has been.

          1. Alternative Prime profile image84
            Alternative Primeposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

            c'mon diane, that's MINISCULE Compared to "ANTI-American Donald" who may have COMMITTED TREASON for "INVITING & Encouraging" his Communist Comrades to "ESPIONAGE" OUR Top Secret Private Property ~ sad ~ The LIST goes on ~

            1. dianetrotter profile image82
              dianetrotterposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

              True!

    4. ahorseback profile image51
      ahorsebackposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

      I guess the forty thousand or so NEW emails , that were somehow not deleted , scrubbed , wiped clean , "bleached " or otherwise lost don't mean anything ?   Thank god for Wiki- leaks.

      At least Four outside nations have probably  hacked the Clinton, Secretary of States e mails, and that doesn't bother YOU a bit ?

      And You would rather persecute  the messenger than the perpetrator?

      1. peoplepower73 profile image88
        peoplepower73posted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

        ahorseback:  "I suspect that you must  be one of those who says any thing and are publically afraid to SAY you're voting for Trump until you get to the poll."

        You are as delusional as Trump if you think I'm going to vote for him. The messenger, as you call him, will say and do anything to get elected.  He is a delusional, self-aggrandizing sociopath, who treats women like dirt, lies, cheats, denies, sues,  incites violence and is faking it.  He sounds more and more like Hitler every time he opens his mouth.  He can't even use a teleprompter.  I can't even imagine him giving a state of the union speech.  He can't even stay on topic long enough to complete a single thought. I can see him pushing the launch button because some head of state insulted him.

        By the way all the B.S about Hillary's emails scrubbed, wiped clean, bleached, and otherwise lost are Trump's words.  Little do you and he realize, all one has to do to delete an entire drive, is to reformat the drive. Two clicks of a mouse and goodbye to emails.  If you look it up, the policy is that government employees are allowed to delete their personal email on government servers.  The head of the FBI is a republican who is working with the Grand Old Obstructionists Part (GOP) to bring Hillary down.  That is in violation of the Hatch Act, if he did it with the intent to influence the outcome of the election.  He serves at the pleasure of the president and Obama can terminate him anytime he wants for violation of that act.
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        1. Live to Learn profile image81
          Live to Learnposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

          As bad as Trump might be if he becomes president it is nowhere near as bad as Hillary has proven herself to be while working for the government.

          1. peoplepower73 profile image88
            peoplepower73posted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

            LTL:  You keep believing that O.K. Be careful what you wish for you might get it.

        2. ahorseback profile image51
          ahorsebackposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

          Peoplepower , Do not feel alone
          Vote for Hilary That is your choice.

          You are not the only one , obviously , to fall for the new sophomoric reality of selfishness  and entitlement voting  . There are many of you , of all ages , who want more in life ,  more for yourselves that is .   And you see that incredible , insatiable need answered in your choice of candidates . NO MATTER  who or what the candidate does in real life . no matter what incredible human waste lays in the path behind them.

          The incredible amount of evidence  pointing directly to the  corruption and lies of the Clinton legacy , the bloody bodies ,military deaths, destroyed countries and cultures , the racism , sexism ,bias , hatred  and totally destroyed personal lives that the Clintons  have collectively  laid waste to in the path of destruction behind them is  unaccounted for  to your choice  of Hilary !
          Congratulations ,
          You are one of the elite ;

          In your elitist choice of candidate You chose BUSINESS AS USUAL in politics  ,WHEN AMERCANS WANT BUSINESS OUT OF POLITICS, that is the greatest hypocrisy of todays new left ,in the new  America politics, graft , corruption , , legitimized criminality ,  sexual perversion ,  constitutional destruction ,  zero accomplishment in legislative change.is the new path to  power.

          Not one of the leftist ideological demands of liberal politics of the last fifty  years, as demanded since the revolutionary sixties ,  is evident in Hilary's  political policies.   Hilary is in fact  the new Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson combined ,   She is in fact the quintessential Genghis Khan of today.   Except  one that is actually  chosen by a conscientiously blind and sophomoric new left  ! Congratulations , you deserve Hilary .

          1. peoplepower73 profile image88
            peoplepower73posted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

            ahorseback:  Reality check for you. If Hillary gets elected and congress is more republican than democrat, everyone one of her moves will be blocked by the GOP (Grand Obstructionists Party), just like they did with Obama.  If Trump gets elected and congress is more democrat than republican, his every move will be blocked as well.  These candidates can promise the world, but it's up to congress to allow their promises to become reality.

            You are expecting big changes if Trump becomes president. You expect him to bring jobs back to this country when labor is much cheaper off shore.  How many CEO's  are going to agree to that when their main job is to increase their bottom line?  Congress has been bought out by big moneyed interest and corporations on both side of the aisle, they are not going to allow him to do anything that will affect their bottom line.  Presidents don't create jobs, economics conditions do.  He paints a bleak picture of this country that isn't even true.  Our economy is recovering; our military is strong, there are more people employed.  Just go to any mall any time of the day or night and see how many people are spending money.  Tell me this country is hurting.  The people who are out of work are the ones where the job market has changed because of technology and globalization.  They need to be retrained into skill sets that are in demand, not complain about the government giving them a raw deal.

            Have you heard of Grover Norquist?  He is one of the most powerful men in the republican party, but he isn't even a government employee.  He made all republican congressmen sign a pledge to not raise taxes under Obama's administration.  If they did, he wields enough power and influence to make their lives miserable and not get elected in their next term. .  He and the Republican elite want Trump to be president so they can control congress and play him like a puppet.  They will end up controlling the government and running it their way, not Trump's way.  You expect change, but it ain't going to happen.  Trump is nothing more than political theater and fodder for the uninformed.

            By the way everything that you said about Hillary is based on misinformation propagated by Fox News, Trump, Brightbart, the Drudge Report, and Alt right.  It is just sad how misinformed you people are.

            1. ahorseback profile image51
              ahorsebackposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

              Keep denying the reality P.P.   ,  it may help right now but if Trump does win ,   the [my ] GOP is toast - they ,just  like the media ,  have sold their integrity down the drain  in this primary and in the election !   One of the first fatalities of a Trump presidency is going to be the "drained swamp " of the [my ] GOP for one .   And , following with that will be the other half of Washington corruption , [your ]DNC.

              This election has progressed beyond the usual ideological differences between senate and congressional  two party systems  , they have conspired against their own peoples., they have all sold out to the highest bidder and no longer reflect their intended purposes .

              "Draining the Swamp ", in promise - should be the main focus of both parties ! Too bad you and yours have evolved further towards  your  intended and desired socialism !

              Vote Hilary to further your  Socialist evolution  - don't worry the real patriots will remain to fight the coming battle.
              Reality check yourself.

  2. Alternative Prime profile image84
    Alternative Primeposted 4 weeks ago

    smile ~ The FBI is LOOKING for a Evidence of CRIMEs Similar to the ones "Hair PLUGz" Trump has ALREADY Committed ~ smile

    U know Encouraging Communists to Commit ESPIONAGE Against the USA, FRAUD, COMMUNIST Ties, COMMUNIST Business DEALz, "Elder ABUSE",  ~ etc etc ~ smile It's actually COMICAL to watch Sean Hammerhead, Rush Limbo & every other RADICAL Right WING Nutcase "FRANTICALLY & Feverishly" trying to find a SHRED of Evidence Against HIllary when there is NONE ~ But in REALITY, after Comey is FINISHED with his "EXERCISE in Futility", he'll presumably be "GONE with the WIND" whether he's INVOLVED in this Obvious Conspiracy or NOT ~

    30 YEARs, MILLIONs of Tax-Payer DOLLARs Wasted by REPUBLICANs which have YIELDED NOTHING, ZERO, Zilch ~ TIME to Start IMPEACHMENT / Prosecuturial Proceedings Against these "RADICAL Republican Anarchists" ~ sad

  3. ahorseback profile image51
    ahorsebackposted 4 weeks ago

    Modern liberals Pseudo- intellectuals have not only managed to  be the most hypocritically  biased , bigoted ,  uninformed voters in American history BUT have also managed at the same time to bring their offspring into higher education institutes knowing absolutely far less about American history than any previous generation .

    A recent study by a university of California college professor  has completed a study showing just how ignorant of  world history OUR AMERCAN  youth are today .....................No wonder   our education system  in America  is rated like what now , 39th in the world ?     

    That fact is very well reflected here in forums .

    1. peoplepower73 profile image88
      peoplepower73posted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

      ahorseback:  So you think right wing voters are not the most hypocritically  biased , bigoted ,  uninformed voters in American history?  Funny that is exactly how I feel about all the fox news, Brightbart, and Alt right junkies.

      Why else would they be supporting a con man who has denied accosting all of those women and is going to sue them, who doesn't have an ounce of experience running a government;  who was and is a failure as a a business man, who has connections with Putin and lives in an alternate reality where he slanders, insults, and demeans anybody who opposes him, and who wants to sue everybody who uncovers who he really is?

      Yes you are right the facts are very well reflected here in forums, but not by liberals but by non-thinking brainwashed conservatives who drink the Trump and right wing Kool Aid. How much does Trump know about American History, and foreign policy in today's world?  He thinks Mosul is in Syria, not Iraq.   He thinks he can go bomb the sh*t out of ISIS.  He doesn't have a clue as to what is really going on there and neither do most conservatives.

      1. ahorseback profile image51
        ahorsebackposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

        Right , And YOU would far rather vote for a candidate  who is more crooked than a "Soprano"  -
        The only difference between the Clinton Machine and the  Sapranos , is that the Sapranos -Didn't leave an E-MAIL TRAIL  of corruption, graft and  tyranny  -everywhere they went !

        I will vote for even  the na├»ve promise of change -OVER the proven history of corruption , graft , tyranny and  murder any-day ,

        I suspect that you must  be one of those who says any thing and are publically afraid to SAY you're voting for Trump until you get to the poll.

  4. ahorseback profile image51
    ahorsebackposted 4 weeks ago

    How many of you here have signed on to move out of America when Trump gets elected ?
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    How many of you will just need your own  safe space ?
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