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How to cure immigration problems 101 .

  1. ahorseback profile image46
    ahorsebackposted 2 weeks ago

    Require a drug test ,....... simple .     I just heard that Florida and two other states  have passed legislation for drug tests  for applying for welfare benefits ?   The ultimate cure all for  America's multitude of issues .

    So what social sissy will step up and deny this will work?

    1. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      How will that cure the millions who do not take welfare and work under the table?

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        For once I agree with Horse on Drugs

        They should arrest all sugar cartels, tobacco smokers,  alcohol and all legal drugs. Best to start off with the most harmful drugs in the World.

        1. Live to Learn profile image82
          Live to Learnposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Arrest the sugar cartels? Talk about throwing me into withdrawals. Say you aren't serious.

          1. Castlepaloma profile image22
            Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

            An average person takes in 5 times too much sugar than we should. White refine sugar is most related and most leading cause of slow death. Sugar is almost into everything we buy.

            It is another big environment reason that I am setting up permaculture operation in Bolivia. I just ignore the rarely odd cocaine plantation down here.

            1. Live to Learn profile image82
              Live to Learnposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

              I can tell you this. If the new world order won't have sugar I'm fighting against it.

      2. ahorseback profile image46
        ahorsebackposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        These people are entering into the system of  legalized employment , free education , free  healthcare and welfare ,  all on the dole.    Stop sanctuary cities for one , welfare roles ,  hospital admittance ,  the legal job market should stop threatening drug tests and do them for another ,   legal applications for immigration ,immigration  officials  should do drug tests ,  they all seem to have their brushes with the legal system .There is a way to that , WITHOUT the system we have in place being told to "turn their heads away "  from  illegal immigration .     

        One way to end illegal aliens  is to force them to come forward , a "carrot and the stick ", then  it's all easier .

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Sounds like the Reefer madness days when they deported million of Mexicans over public enemy number one crime.  Being the Mexicans drug call Marijuana , also imprisoned blacks and sent Whites for mental illness treatments. The only mentality ill people I see are the Reefer madness synthetic corporatism.

          Add to this mess that nearly half of Americans have tried Marijuana, where do they get deported too, prison. Great recruitment for making industrial military equipment at lease that is a job, not a good one, but a job.

        2. rhamson profile image76
          rhamsonposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Stay with me now and don't just mash everything together. How will drug testing identify working illegals when they don't draw welfare?

    2. Credence2 profile image87
      Credence2posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      Right wingers continue to disgust  me, people may have a legitimate need for welfare without all the invasion of privacy ideas from the right wing playbook. What kind of new fascism are you advocating, is it just another aspect of the "Trump Effect"?

      1. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        If they have a legitimate need for welfare they won't test positive for illegal drugs,  so what's the problem?  The hour away from the TV to go get one?

        1. Credence2 profile image87
          Credence2posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Why not use legitimate standards to determine eligibility for welfare, besides being invasive at the start, it is so Trumpian of you.....

          1. wilderness profile image96
            wildernessposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

            Personally, I find that the funding isn't being spent on illegal drugs to be quite legitimate.  That we aren't simply buying drugs with our charity. 

            You may disagree (I assume you do) but that that doesn't make the request illegitimate.  Nor does it make it excessively invasive - we already demand to know the recipients entire financial status and that's pretty invasive in itself.

            So "progressive" of you...simply give money away without knowing whether it is needed or not.

      2. Live to Learn profile image82
        Live to Learnposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        I'm honestly surprised that anyone would have a problem checking to see if someone is on drugs.. I don't think anyone would advocate denying them help but giving money to a drug addict is just going to fund their addiction. What if the money is meant to support a woman with children? Should the kids be neglected and unfed because it's insulting and invasive to make sure the caregiver is drug free?

        1. Credence2 profile image87
          Credence2posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Look guys, the check on financially background has a direct bearing in to their eligibility for the program If there is probable cause or reasonable suspicion that a recipient is involved in drugs, fine, do your pee tests. The idea that one that is on welfare is automatically presumed guilty of crimes are all just part and parcel of the new Trump regime.

          But since there are more whites on welfare than any Minority group, let's see how they take all of this in?

          So much for the ideas that conservatives and libs can ever see common ground. The draconian vindictive things you people consider remedies, would never cross my mind.

          1. ahorseback profile image46
            ahorsebackposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

            It's sure easy to say," There are more whites on this than......blah, blah, blah" until you think proportions of any and all   ethnicities , of course there are more whites "on the ship" because there are more whites.... duh .....I took a job at a high end yacht  manufacturing company once and took the drug test to get the job ,   of course I passed it  but  WHY  in the world would we NOT have a drug test for the social programs paid for by a working mans taxes ? And legal immigration applications for that matter ?  We test convicts , ,why not the illegals when they are picked up too ?
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            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
              Kathryn L Hillposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

              cuz its un-cool.

          2. wilderness profile image96
            wildernessposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

            "The idea that one that is on welfare is automatically presumed guilty of crimes are all just part and parcel of the new Trump regime."

            Were there any truth at all to that, he'd say just stop welfare.  Not test to see if it's being abused.  Just more nasty liberal exaggerations?

            "But since there are more whites on welfare than any Minority group, let's see how they take all of this in?"

            Where did Minorities come into it?  Are you playing the race card already?

            "The draconian vindictive things you people consider remedies, would never cross my mind."

            Can you explain how not buying illegal drugs for people is "vindictive"?

            1. Credence2 profile image87
              Credence2posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

              Is there any statistical data that indicates that a substantial number of people on welfare are engaged in illegal drug use or is this some right wing thing to punish people just for being on the program?

              It is just like the racial profiling the righties have no problem with, you have an example of a welfare recipient abusing drugs and this justifies imposing this pee test on them all.

              Let get the stats and if what you say is true that even if the drug use of welfare recipients exceed that of the general population, then I will reconsider, the use of these tests on a preemptive basis.

    3. psycheskinner profile image80
      psycheskinnerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      Requiring drugs test for welfare was a huge failure.  The program was extremely expensive and found drug use for people on welfare was significantly lower than for average citizen samples.

      And since when is the immigrant problem considered a drug problem.  I bet immigrant drug use is lower than for citizens.  Either doing the paperwork, or sneaking over the border, these are pretty much impossible to do while wasted.

  2. Castlepaloma profile image22
    Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago

    Whites abuse drugs more than blacks. Latino abuse slightly more than whites.

    Imagine job drug test for Marijuana that stays in your system for a month. Then you get fired or deported for it.

    Also after being checked and searched in big building, driving, walking and traveling. You would need to take drugs to escape the stressful experiences of being suspected  of terrorist or drug dealing.

    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      Somehow I don't see all Syrians as wandering around high on pot all the time, and they aren't just suspected of being a terrorist.  Instead they are dodging terrorist bullets.

      While you may think it's fine to drive high, most of us don't want the added risk to our lives from the driver coming at us in a condition of reduced capability.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        Only 17 Marijuana related death on Marijuana in a year in the US compare to 88,000 on Alcohol.

        Only got high on pot twice in the last 5 years. Man I miss it,

        Top ten we worst things about pot.
        Number one :It is illegal:, plus the same the next 9 places.

        1. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          I would bet my life that there are more than 17 traffic fatalities related to weed last year.  We just don't check for it or assign it as a cause.

          1. Castlepaloma profile image22
            Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

            It has been proven Marijuana users are better drivers than ones on Alcohol. When combined use of both drugs, your driving is worst than just on Alcohol.

            Education rather than incarceration.

            1. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

              And because it is better than alcohol means it doesn't contribute to accidents.  I believe I'll have to disagree with that concept.

              We've educated the public on driving drunk and texting/talking for years and years.  People still do it...but not if they are behind bars.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

                It make no sense to put over a million Marijuana user behind bars,  other than policing for profit. Where alcohol get away with murder, violence and ruin families.

                Text is not good enough, it start with our schooling. When they did show us Reefer Madness in school we students knew it was pure brainwashed BS.

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

                  And therefore we should just accept that millions of potheads, driving high, will make a dangerous event even more so?

                  I fear that I would disagree with that, too.

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                    Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

                    I would rather my daughter be a pothead than an alcoholic, yet per neither.

                    America once top narcotics cop with most arrest. Quoted- I rather arrest 500 potheads than one alcoholic. Because the potheads are more polite, peaceful and cooperatives. Where the alcoholic is more violence and more likely to throw up in my police car.

                    Reverse alcoholic as scheduled 1 and a softer drug Marijuana to schedule 2.
                    I promise you their will be far less violence, crimes and safer roads.

                2. Credence2 profile image87
                  Credence2posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

                  Hey, Castle, it may not be often, but I agree with Wilderness. I consider both alcohol and cannibis a source of intoxication on the road. The stuff still can alter judgement and the cops need to find a way to test for the drug in case one is pulled over for being suspected of operating a vehicle under its influence. I am not one to see anyone jailed for possession and use of marijuana, but driving under its influence or working at a job under influence would be in a condition of impairment for most people.

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                    Castlepalomaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

                    When you got Marijuana under the food and drugs laws. Then think why are legal drugs more deadly than Illegal drugs? Both ways are more profitable for the greedy, not the many.
                    Besides it's our bodies belong to each one of us first, my body and soul are not for the  Governments to steal also.

                    Why accept sugar, alcoholic, cheese, coffee , tobacco all more addictive and far more deadly than the soft drug like Marijuana. Most People have spoken and they want Cannabis to be legal. Good reason too Cannabis is the most important plant in the world. Just another failed democracy vote like Trump's.

                    I am more proud to be Canadain because diversity mean strength not just about Christians white male lopsidedly thinking and whitewashing. Education is more important than incarnation. I would not leave Canada too if US would not steal Canada when they get too desperate and take it over by the greedy bankers and war.

                    I thought a true Government soul purpose is to protect it citizens and have a democracy. Not to have everything backward including America being the leading terrorist in the World.

 
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