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Secessionists formally launch quest for California's independence

  1. Stacie L profile image87
    Stacie Lposted 13 days ago

    Secessionists formally launch quest for California's independence
    Various groups have made noise about California forming its own country in the wake of Trump's election this month, most prominently Silicon Valley financier Shervin Pishevar. But similar proposals have dotted the state's political landscape for years. Yes California has tried and failed previously, and Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper was not able to get a proposal to split California into six states onto the 2016 ballot.
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/secess … li=BBnbcA1
    First, Texas wanted to leave and now it's California. I guess Texas would have started their proposal up if Hillary had won...?

    1. Credence2 profile image86
      Credence2posted 13 days ago in reply to this

      For either TEXAS or California, this action is illadvised.

      1. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 13 days ago in reply to this

        Are you sure?  The promoters insist Ca is big enough to be self-sustaining.  They only import things like half their crude oil, most of their fresh water, half their electricity and all their defense - surely they can take care of themselves.  Might have to build a few nuke plants, upsetting the greenies there, but what's a dozen new power plants to a liberal state concerned about the environment? lol

        1. Credence2 profile image86
          Credence2posted 13 days ago in reply to this

          I am not for breaking up the Union, this idea of secession should have been settled 150 years ago.

          As for self sustaining those of Texas said the same at Obama's election, IMO, setting the stage for Balkanization of this country is not what I want to see. Once it begins where does it end? Counties splitting off from states, for example.

          1. wilderness profile image97
            wildernessposted 13 days ago in reply to this

            T'was sarcasm, Credence, just sarcasm.  And it WAS settled 150 years ago, and settled quite thoroughly.

            1. Credence2 profile image86
              Credence2posted 13 days ago in reply to this

              I am glad that we see eye to eye on this point, Wilderness.

              Whatever our problems with Trump, breakin' up has gotta be hard to do.

              1. wilderness profile image97
                wildernessposted 13 days ago in reply to this

                'Tis true - occasionally you do come out of the dark and into the light. lol

                1. colorfulone profile image89
                  colorfuloneposted 13 days ago in reply to this

                  I'm a witness.  lol  Stuff happens!

                  1. Credence2 profile image86
                    Credence2posted 13 days ago in reply to this

                    Don't get too happy, I don't like the man that has been selected as President-elect, but dismembering our union is not the answer. There are other ways....

  2. ahorseback profile image51
    ahorsebackposted 13 days ago

    Once liberals finally work through the shock and awe of their incredible presidential loss , they will enter into the acceptance stage of their collective failure at the polls . Then they will all quiet down ,    Secession ,  I don't really see any Californians  willing to fight a civil war !  lets see , there's  Clint Eastwood ,  .........and these's  .....well there's Clint , .......did he actually SAY he would fight ?

    1. Credence2 profile image86
      Credence2posted 13 days ago in reply to this

      That is the whole point, no one is going to quiet down...

      1. ahorseback profile image51
        ahorsebackposted 13 days ago in reply to this

        Oh stop it ..........you know you will once you see how wrong you've been about the Don !!

        1. Credence2 profile image86
          Credence2posted 13 days ago in reply to this

          I can't eliminate that possibility, but I don't have a lot of confidence. The brouhaha he stirred up with his needlessly controversial staff appointment reinforces that. I am not from Missouri, but all the same I say 'Show Me'.

          With someone with a record like his, the burden of proof is on him to show me he is not the ogre we all suspect him to be.

          1. ahorseback profile image51
            ahorsebackposted 13 days ago in reply to this

            And the alternative was ?

            1. Credence2 profile image86
              Credence2posted 13 days ago in reply to this

              Alternative to what?

              1. ahorseback profile image51
                ahorsebackposted 13 days ago in reply to this

                The Clinton mafia !

                1. Credence2 profile image86
                  Credence2posted 13 days ago in reply to this

                  With Trump, 'Don' is more than just a first name.

                  1. ahorseback profile image51
                    ahorsebackposted 13 days ago in reply to this

                    I would still rather have an honest 'Don' than a dishonest  Clinton Foundation for a president .

 
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