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Who'd accept the Trump dictator style if he truly drained the swamp?

  1. ahorseback profile image51
    ahorsebackposted 5 days ago

    The obvious point  in this question is -Will he ?  Not that he'd become a dictator !  But I wonder where liberals would really stand if the draining the swamp  truly became a political reality ?   Or is the hypocrisy of the  leftist rhetoric about a  dirty  D.C. just that ?   AS I believe.

    1. Credence2 profile image87
      Credence2posted 5 days ago in reply to this

      I won't tolerate authoritarianism and fascism. It is amazing how easily conservatives gravitate toward the strong man and fundamentally abhor democracy.

      Wasn't it Yoda who said, 'the FORCE can has a profound effect on the feeble minded'?

      Is this where you find your typical rightwinger, today?

      1. Castlepaloma profile image23
        Castlepalomaposted 5 days ago in reply to this

        Force yourself upon the drones and you will a powerful darkness.

      2. ahorseback profile image51
        ahorsebackposted 4 days ago in reply to this

        Credence , There was no one of a greater "authoritarian or fascist " belief and leadership style than Pres. Obama .

        1. colorfulone profile image88
          colorfuloneposted 4 days ago in reply to this

          That is the truth!  On another note...

          President-elect Donald J. Trump, won 306 electoral votes, carried 9 of 13 battleground states, he won over 2,600 counties nationwide, and he won over 62 million votes in the popular vote.

          1. Don W profile image82
            Don Wposted 3 days ago in reply to this

            Bit didn't win the popular vote. So the majority of people who voted, didn't want Trump to be president. Speaks volumes.

    2. colorfulone profile image88
      colorfuloneposted 4 days ago in reply to this

      I believe Trump will pull the plugs and drain the swamp, the swamp dwellers know it and that is why they have and continue a full assault to defeat Trump.  Its that the establishment is sacred of prison bars. 

      If, Trump isn't killed first or the election isn't stolen out from under him.

      "Or is the hypocrisy of the  leftist rhetoric about a dirty  D.C. just that?"

      There has been a lot revealed about the corruption and Washington Cartel, through the Wikileaks.  Maybe the worst ever, things we should not even speak of...is #PizzaGate, its real.  I feel physically ill even mentioning it in the forums, but people need to know about the horrors of hell in DC.

  2. Live to Learn profile image81
    Live to Learnposted 5 days ago

    No sane person,, left right or in the middle, will accept a dictatorship style of leadership. It's a ludicrous question. The office of the president does not have the power to be one.

    1. The Old Guard profile image82
      The Old Guardposted 5 days ago in reply to this

      Might want to check out Lincolns actions during the Civil War.
      He suspended habeas corpus, arrested a sitting judge, shut down newspapers that disagreed with his war with the Confederacy.
      Suspended the 2nd amendment in Maryland and put in prison many of the objectors to his dictatorial actions.
      Check out Nixon's declaration of wage and price control in the 70's.
      Both sound pretty dictatorial to me. But, I'm weird when it comes to individual freedoms, I've never bought into the leftists view of "it's good for the community"  If I, as an individual lose my freedoms, then we are in a dictatorial country - as we are now within the U.S.A.
      America is a fascist country - with a hint of "freedom" to keep those enslaved quiet.
      The sole purpose if government is to negate the freedom of the citizens. There's no other reason to have it in place.
      Just ask yourself this question, "When was the last time the government did anything to expand an individuals freedom?"
      The answer is "It never has".
      You  cannot have over 3,000 new laws and regulations passed in one year and at the same time tell citizens that their freedom are being enhanced.
      Laws negate freedom.
      If the left fears anything, it's the loss of laws and regulations that specifically take away freedoms from the citizens.
      Trump will, it is hoped, allow citizens to be more free.

      1. Live to Learn profile image81
        Live to Learnposted 5 days ago in reply to this

        So you are in favor of Trump seizing war time powers during peace and shoving all of his demands down our throats? You think that will result in more personal freedom?

        1. The Old Guard profile image82
          The Old Guardposted 5 days ago in reply to this

          Obviously, you didn't read my reply.
          "Trump will, it is hoped, allow citizens to be more free"
          It's important to read what one has said before jumping to conclusions.
          The goal of electing Trump was to stop the dictatorial powers of those entrenched in government - this is true for those that make a living sucking off the teat of the taxpayers, like hillary killary and obamamama.
          The goal of the founders was never to have a "ruling class", which has become the norm in D.C..
          Trump has vowed to change that. Will he succeed?
          Looking at the demonstrations in the streets, the recount movement that has no chance of changing anything, it appears the powers that be do not want to give back freedoms that have been taken away from citizens.
          Here's what scary, and it ain't Trump:
          1) It seems citizens of the U.S. what a fascist dictatorial government
          2) Most citizens have no idea why the Electoral College was put in place - which was to stop a small number of states from having more power that the majority of states. (It has to do with states power for the limitations of the federal government - which is lost on most people - hence the demonstrations)
          3) It's scary that citizens are more than willing to give up their freedoms to the corrupt government that we have in D.C.
          Government negates freedom. There's no other reason for government to be in place. If you do not understand that the governments goal is to take away your freedoms, then there's no reason to have any conversation.
          I want freedom, which means less government.
          If you want more government, then your at best a socialist, at worse a communist/marxist - which is what we've had in the White House for the last 8 years.
          Cheers

          1. Castlepaloma profile image23
            Castlepalomaposted 5 days ago in reply to this

            The best solution is no Feb Government at all.
            Americans will keep finding the new president is worst than the president before.

            I can only imagine a world war 3 is the only, solution to change people's action towards this continuous abuse, rather than foresight.

            1. Live to Learn profile image81
              Live to Learnposted 5 days ago in reply to this

              War is the only solution? A world war, at that. Very European on you.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image23
                Castlepalomaposted 5 days ago in reply to this

                British empire used to be the bully of the world even Nazi Germany feared Uk.

                It is America empire turn at it with more American Germans than any other ethnic group in America . Old Americans Nazi are at it again being lead again by Zionist money supply like world war 1 and 2. Yet world war 3 will be their final strick three, than they are out.

                1. Live to Learn profile image81
                  Live to Learnposted 4 days ago in reply to this

                  roll

                  Sometimes, you make sense. Sometimes not so much.

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image23
                    Castlepalomaposted 4 days ago in reply to this

                    Trace your world history as I do and get paid to do so sometimes.
                    You would not be able to not connected those dots I presented. Why are whites in power of the world with only 14% of the population from whites predominate in Europe, Russia to America. Now they threaten the world with 90% of nuclear weapon power because by 2050 whites will be down to 9% of the world population.

                    One thing I do know is that people of color and Muslims will win this last and final war. Don't worry no one world religion will ever work.

            2. The Old Guard profile image82
              The Old Guardposted 4 days ago in reply to this

              Coming from a country who's leader praises a demon known as Fidel Castro.
              As worse as Stalin or Hitler - right up there with Canada's mountians.
              Talk about hypocrites - Trudeau is one of the worst. Almost getting close to obamamama and hillary killary.
              Trumps a saint compared to those 4.
              Rock on Trump.
              Make America great again, bring in persecuted Christians vs. muslim anarchists. Let the muslims take care of the LGBT!

          2. Live to Learn profile image81
            Live to Learnposted 5 days ago in reply to this

            I did read your reply. I simply don't think 'hoping' something will turn out a particular way is reason enough to allow dictatorial style of leadership into the White House. It doesn't really matter what you think of the last eight years.

            1. The Old Guard profile image82
              The Old Guardposted 4 days ago in reply to this

              What I think of the last 8 years does make a difference.
              Don't see any reason it's going to be any worse dictatorially than what obamama has been.
              You afraid of a guy who speaks his mind?
              Going to run to you safe space and pout?
              Or do you not have faith in the checks and balances of the Federal Government.
              By looking at the last 8 years, I can understand why. You've had a thieving, marxist at the helm for so long maybe you forgot what it's like not to be told what to do by your government.
              Of course. looking at the protestors hoping for another despicable demoncrap in office, well, the mass media brainwashing has worked well. You guys have bought into the socialists dreams. Myself, I'll hope for the "For each new regulation, we'll cancel out 2"
              Why not let Trump actually do something before becoming a fearing mongering little babe?
              Or do words scare you to death?
              Again, I'd be more afraid of the thieving demoncraps - and you've got plenty of proof for that conclusion.
              Hoping is a lot better than the last 8 years of a marxist bent on destroying America.
              50% of American's on some sort of government welfare is not what I would conclude as success.

      2. PhoenixV profile image80
        PhoenixVposted 5 days ago in reply to this

        https://images.zerocensorship.com/content/2016-03/president-obama-poses-in-front-of-che-guevara-image-in-cubas-revolution-square-34129.jpg


        I thought liberals love dictators.  I , along with obama offer liberals and fidels family my condolences.

        1. The Old Guard profile image82
          The Old Guardposted 4 days ago in reply to this

          Yup, cut from the same mold - obamamama and Fidel Castro. Both's dream was destroying the country that they led.
          Both have done well in realizing their dreams.
          Thank God in 2017, obammama is gone!
          Can I get an Amen for that!!
          HAHAHAHAHA

    2. ahorseback profile image51
      ahorsebackposted 5 days ago in reply to this

      "Ludicrous  question "?   And given that Queen Hilary's coronation was the alternative , you truly feel that  it can't happen ? A "dictator style" of  leadership is exactly what America needs right now , in order to drain the swamp that we ALL believe needs draining .

  3. Castlepaloma profile image23
    Castlepalomaposted 5 days ago

    Lucas once ask me for my services. At the time did not know who he was and was too busy with sandsculpture. He wanted Aliens creatures where I only knew of earthlings. If he asked me again, I would say, YES!!!!

  4. ahorseback profile image51
    ahorsebackposted 4 days ago

    The majority of the Muslims from the idle east seem to live in the eleventh or twelfth century ,   need justice , cut off someone's  head , need political reform , cutoff someone's head , need religious  solutions , cut off someone's head .

    How does that fit into America's reality ?

    1. Castlepaloma profile image23
      Castlepalomaposted 4 days ago in reply to this

      Saudi Arabia cut off a record high of 147 last year heads, greater than ISIS cuts off tbeir heads. Saudi is who you most deal with in oil so money always over rules, ethics.

      Think of the millions heads that roll off Muslims by US and Israel milliary by guns and bombs. Then look at US 140 times crime rate higher than the most criminal Muslims country in the world, Saudi Arabia.

      It is like comparing human yearly deaths by deer 1.2 million to bears killing human 500 a year. Bears will get the worst propaganda press.

      No matter how much US/Israel kills Muslims and their population growth. They will win the war because they got nothing to loose and brown will be the most popular colour around.

      1. ahorseback profile image51
        ahorsebackposted 3 days ago in reply to this

        Yes , and so lets assimilate them into mainstream America , so more heads will roll right into the future .Your kids , mine and Obama's too , why leave anyone out .  Go Sharia !

        1. Castlepaloma profile image23
          Castlepalomaposted 3 days ago in reply to this

          Two great white shark had two killings last year, do you have nightmare about them . How about two billion Chinese are they out to get you too, Maybe after the thunderstorms bolt stricks first.

          1. ahorseback profile image51
            ahorsebackposted 3 days ago in reply to this

            No , No and No !

            1. Castlepaloma profile image23
              Castlepalomaposted 3 days ago in reply to this

              Did you know in the American/ Indian war 1811 they beheaded 150,000 to 300,000 native. I can't imagine 10,000 Syrians Muslims are sharpening their swords right now. BBOOOO. LOL

              America kills more in death penalties , just  Arabic prefers beheading it is scariest way to cut crime.  Unless you make a death penalty crime over there, then why fear your crazy off.

              1. Live to Learn profile image81
                Live to Learnposted 3 days ago in reply to this

                Why fear? A western woman was raped there and they put her in jail.

                Backward, backward people.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image23
                  Castlepalomaposted 3 days ago in reply to this

                  I have dated every race of women except Arab women, why are these Arab women  not flocking to me. There is alot more crime in America with domestic homicide that are greater in numbers. Of the two extreme I prefer Latino women more often, they will actually stay for breakfast, how romantic.

                  1. ahorseback profile image51
                    ahorsebackposted 3 days ago in reply to this

                    Maybe you are too hard a person Castle , if the Arab women don't like you !

                  2. Live to Learn profile image81
                    Live to Learnposted 3 days ago in reply to this

                    With the first part you sound like a few Muslim women I've conversed with. The second part sounds like you.

                    Either way. Not in the least interested in taking part in a Muslim society.

  5. Castlepaloma profile image23
    Castlepalomaposted 3 days ago

    Yes, shy at first ,you would be surprised on how open minded some Muslims can be, even in their country.

    1. Will Apse profile image91
      Will Apseposted 3 days ago in reply to this

      One of my favorite, local bar/restaurants is run by Muslims. The guys friends come round in white robes and they sit, drink coffee and smoke cigarettes in a quiet and dignified fashion while the Europeans get drunk, loud and silly.

      Most Muslims here are the kind of gentle, good-natured people that make me feel guilty.

      I ain't good-natured, lol.

      1. Will Apse profile image91
        Will Apseposted 2 days ago in reply to this

        Just to give that above comment some context, I should point out the Buddhist population in Thailand are just as good-natured. The sweetness of the rural people here is a wonderful antidote to any kind of misanthropic cynicism.

        I was also probably a little hard on myself. I am not especially ill-natured, just a typical, driven westerner.

 
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