Does any one know the details of the new immigration rules?

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   jackclee lmposted 7 years ago

   We know the people who committed felonies are on the top of the priorities to be deported.
   What is the status of the dreamers?
   Does anyone know what is their prospects?
   Do they get to stay here? As limg ss they didn't commit any crime or fraud...

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      wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      As far as I've heard, there is no policy yet.  Best I could offer is a feeling that Trump was quite sympathetic to their plight and wants them to stay.
      
      At the same time, it appears that illegals caught up in a sweep for felons are being deported according to the law.  It would seem that "dreamers", caught in the same way, will suffer the same fate.  At this time that is the law.

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         jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         It seems to me this would be an easy legislation for Congress to take on. There is overwhelming support by the public of dreamers, as long as they don't commit any crimes. Let the GOP lead and pass a legislation protecting dreamers from deportation. This would be a grand gesture to the whole country and to undocumented immigrants that we are not out to crucify them. We as GOP and conservatives have compassion for these individuals. It will go a long way to help closing the borders and dealing with deporting felony illegals.

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            wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            While I think I agree with you (are there multiple definitions of "dreamer"?) I would have to see the legislation to fully agree.
            
            But I DO disagree with the statement that it will help close the border: making a class of illegals suddenly legal does the opposite as it encourages more of that class to enter however they can in order to gain the benefit.  Nor will it help at all with deporting felony illegals.

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               jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               What I mean by helping is the process of immigration reform and enforcement will be more palatable if the "dreamers" are allowed to stay. It is a compromise that should be welcomed by all...

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                  wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Just caught this:
                  
                  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 … d-security
                  
                  DACA (dreamer) is to remain pretty much intact, but deportation overall is to be expanded.  Suits me - while some would deport those children that know nothing of any other country and are here through no action of their own, I disagree.  I think we can absorb a few million "dreamers" without undue hardship, and should.  IF they promptly become citizens (through an expedited program to do just that); should they refuse then they should not be here.

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                     ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Dreamers also are highly skilled with education and motivation also. Can't be a HS drop-out to qualify.

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                        wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Close.  A GED is acceptable for those that dropped out of HS.  And there is no requirement for motivation, but one must be of "good moral character". 
                        
                        Of course, as there is no actual Dream Act legislation that has passed and been signed into law, the requirements are still up in the air.

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      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Go to https://www.dhs.gov/executive-orders-pr … g-homeland
      
      has links on from today and yesterday on Implementation memos & Fact sheets
      
      as usual with any government document my eyes glazed over and I feel off the chair in a induced coma.

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   aguasilverposted 7 years ago

   Whatever he does it needs to be fast, fair and furious.
   
   Fast so that those affected know what the future holds.
   
   Fair because it needs to take into account the personal circumstances of each 'dreamer' situation, and make it as easy as possible for those who qualify to gain full citizenship.
   
   Furious because those who do not qualify need speedy removal, perhaps with a resettlement allowance where the person removed has committed no crime other than their immigration status, and where their non citizen status is not the result of illegal entry as an adult.

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      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      "fast & Furious" ??? gee where did I hear that from ..

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