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Trump's cabinet appointees were selected to destroy their agencies.

  1. peoplepower73 profile image85
    peoplepower73posted 5 months ago

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    I watched Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus at CPAC state the following:

    "Nearly all of Trump’s cabinet choices are known mostly for despising and attacking the very Federal agencies they’ve been designated to lead. Bannon explained—in very clear language--that they weren't appointed to lead these agencies, but to destroy them:

    Atop Trump’s agenda, Bannon said, was the “deconstruction of the administrative state” — meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon one’s sovereignty."

    1. dianetrotter profile image80
      dianetrotterposted 5 months ago in reply to this

      Scariest line:  We are going to take our county back!

      1.  Who are we?
      2.  Whom are we taking it from?
      3.  Why do you need to take it back?

      1. Jed Fisher profile image87
        Jed Fisherposted 5 months ago in reply to this

        They used you gas money to buy your Gub'ment and your country right out from under you. For real.
        1.  Who are we?
        U.S. Citizens.
        2.  Whom are we taking it from?
        Wahhabist Muslims.
        3.  Why do you need to take it back?
        So that freedom and democracy do not perish from this earth.
        http://atheism.about.com/od/islamicsects/a/wahhabi.htm

        1. Will Apse profile image88
          Will Apseposted 5 months ago in reply to this

          Is this comment as unpleasant as it seems to be, or am I missing something?

    2. Don W profile image80
      Don Wposted 5 months ago in reply to this

      Not surprising. Bannon is quoted as saying:

      "I’m a Leninist. . . Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment."

      Ironically, doesn't that make him, by definition, an enemy of the state?

      1. peoplepower73 profile image85
        peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

        Don W: Who knows anymore?  These people are pushing the envelope when it comes to the constitution.  I think Bannon and company are serious about a new world order.  I think Trump is just along for the ride.  But he likes what Bannon and his cohorts are up to and their vision of tearing everything down.

        1. peoplepower73 profile image85
          peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

          Trump is a master at dividing and conquering.  He has now labeled the main stream media as "The Opposition Party" Reporters from The Times, BuzzFeed News, CNN, The Los Angeles Times and Politico were not allowed to enter the West Wing office of the press secretary, Sean M. Spicer, for the scheduled briefing. Aides to Mr. Spicer only allowed in reporters from a handpicked group of news organizations that, the White House said, had been previously confirmed. Those organizations included Breitbart News, the One America News Network and The Washington Times, all with conservative leanings.

          Isn't this a violation of the 1st amendment?

        2. Don W profile image80
          Don Wposted 5 months ago in reply to this

          I think you're right. But you know, if one reporter accidentally referred to "president Bannon" in a press briefing before correcting themselves, Trump's ego is so big, I wouldn't be surprised if it sowed a seed of resentment in Trump's infantile mind.. I wonder if anyone would be brave enough to do it.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 5 months ago in reply to this

            Is there a person in the country that would think such a reference was done "accidentally"?  I'd be a little P.O. too.

    3. ahorseback profile image48
      ahorsebackposted 5 months ago in reply to this

      When those agencies of federal government agencies become the permanent poster children of a particular political ideology  ;  OTHER THAN AMERICAN FIRST then they SHOULD  be  destroyed from within , from without and even , if necessary from foreign sources .

      Trumps administration is reclaiming the ownership of the federal government AND its agencies FIRST ,for the people  of America .

      The left needs to accept that !

      1. peoplepower73 profile image85
        peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

        ahorseback:  You are correct in some ways, but I think it is much deeper than that.  Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, and Donald Trump sees themselves as Economic Nationalist (Anti-Establishment.).  According to Steve Bannon at CPAC, most of those people are put in there to not to lead the cabinet that they have been appointed to, but to destroy it. It makes sense.  Why else would they have put Betsy DeVoss in as Secretary of Education when she hasn't even been a school teacher? Why would they put a brain surgeon in as Secretary of HUD, Why would they put Rick Perry in as head  of EPA, when he hates it and didn't even know that he is responsible for nuclear energy?  How about all the military generals?

        The republicans are always for less government and less regulation and privatizing everything.  What a neat way to accomplish that  by destroying the regulatory apparatus of the federal government.  Trump is exactly what they wanted and need only on steroids.   I believe Trump is just the front man.  He is there to confuse the issue with his tantrums and tweet storms while Bannon and his cohorts work behind the scenes.  I don't believe the constitution specifies that the president even has to have a cabinet.  So by destroying it, they don't have to even go through congress. They just burn it down as Bannon says.  It doesn't matter whether it is a republican or democratic controlled congress.  They will have no say in this matter.

        Without any regulations, money will flow to the top of corporations.  They must think it will be like trickle down economics on steroids, but we all know the money doesn't trickle down, it goes out of the country to un-numbered Swiss accounts and to the Cayman Islands as  tax shelters.  This will continue without any regulations until the bubble breaks just like it did in the last financial meltdown.  The problem is money does not directly contribute to the GDP, but it makes many people super rich.

        Currently no corporate CEO wants to bring jobs back here because of the increase in labor costs.  However if Trump builds his wall and removes regulations, as a trade-off there  will be incentives to bring back jobs.  All you have to do is follow the money.  Including the Putin connection.

        1. ahorseback profile image48
          ahorsebackposted 5 months ago in reply to this

          And yet Peoplepower , NONE of the extreme leftist influx of ideological  , divisive change and extremist activism  that Obama brought to the forefront of these SAME agencies  IN SPADES , bothers you at all ?  The DOJ.    FBI,  Homeland Security ,   Supreme Courts ,   the TSA , Border Patrol ,   were all inclusive in spreading of leftist activism and their people still are a cancer in these agencies .AND that didn't phase you then -  then I suggest you accept it - look the other way NOW for eight years .
          I understand political divide - But not  the political mess perpetrated on Americas sovereignty  by the Obama changes .

          You lost your  political influences across the game board in this election , its our turn!

          I can't wait to see the supreme court  changes next !

  2. Live to Learn profile image82
    Live to Learnposted 5 months ago

    I don't know about you guys but I'm worse off than I was twelve years ago. Most people I know are also. I work hard and so do they. I neither expect or get anything from the federal government. I don't know if government policies are responsible for the economic woes but I'm willing to give the Trump administration some leeway to prove they can make a difference. Just as I was willing to give the Obama administration leeway. I honestly wish the left would stop whining and do the same.

    1. peoplepower73 profile image85
      peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

      Live to Learn:  If you don't mind me asking: are you retired, if not, what do you do for a living and is your job in demand?

      You may call it whining, but I call it a very, very deep concern for the people and this country.  You think you have troubles now, wait until Bannon and company destroy all the government agencies that protect all of us.

    2. PhoenixV profile image80
      PhoenixVposted 5 months ago in reply to this

      Me an my kinfolk dont take charity either. I gave obama a chance for 4 years until him and hillary, the msm and everyone they are connected to, lied about benghazi until after re-election. Our ancestors will likely have to evolve into human tree squirrels in 10,000 years to get out from under or not have to pay the debt and interest on the debt obama created. Blowing 10 trillion dollars and claiming it aint your fault gets most people put in the hoosegow

      1. peoplepower73 profile image85
        peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

        Phoenix V:  Every president inherits the national debt of the previous president.  Trump starts with 22 trillion, not zero.  Where do you think he will end up in four years.  How is he going to get all the things he wants to accomplish with out increasing the national debt?

        1. PhoenixV profile image80
          PhoenixVposted 5 months ago in reply to this

          Trump inherited all the previous presidents debt "combined" starting with George Washington, thanks to obama alone.

          1. peoplepower73 profile image85
            peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

            Phoenix V:  That doesn't even make any sense.  That is just a way for you to blame Obama without even thinking about what you are saying. All presidents inherit the National debt of the previous president starting with George Washington.  That's how it works.  We are a debtor nation.  Trump has inherited all that debt as well. It is accumulative debt.

            The government has two kinds of debt.  The budget debt and the national debt.  With the budget, if there is more revenue than expenses there is a budget surplus.  If there is more expenses than revenue, there is a budget deficit.  Every year the expenses for the previous fiscal year have to be paid and factored in for the previous year.  The interest and the debt on loans is added to the national debt along with the accumulation of debt from the previous president.

            1. PhoenixV profile image80
              PhoenixVposted 5 months ago in reply to this

              An additional ten trillion in debt in one presidency alone. I agree:  That doesn't even make any sense. .

    3. promisem profile image94
      promisemposted 5 months ago in reply to this

      I agree. That being said, I think quite a few people object much more to Trump the person than to his administration.

      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 5 months ago in reply to this

        On this we can agree - I don't like the man, as a man, either.  Descriptors might include "dictator-like", "abrasive", "low brow", "offensive" and others.

        But that's nothing new in American politics.  Consider LBJ and his penis fixation.  Clinton having sex in the oval office.  J E Hoover and his gross misuse of power.  Andrew Jackson makes Trump look like a saint.  Expect aristocratic behavior from an American politician and you're in for a big disappointment.

        1. peoplepower73 profile image85
          peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

          Wilderness:  So does that make Trump's  behavior O.K. to you, just because you compared him to others who you think had disdainful behavior?  That is the problem.  He is emboldening others to behave like him.  Many people are accepting and adopting his behavior as the new normal. Conservatives, by their very nature are supposed to be very moral people.  Trump's morality changes based on the audience he is serving at that moment.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 5 months ago in reply to this

            No, the problem is an unending bashing of President Trump over words.  Never actions, just about what he has said, with the eternal complaint that he lies.

            That, coupled with gross exaggerations, spin and outright lies to denigrate the man because you (meaning the bashers, not you personally) hate having a non-PC conservative that talks bad as their President.  As I said, this is nothing new, but that just isn't a reason for a barrage of garbage, complaining about words but never even touching on what he has done.

            I'd love to see people "emboldened" to be like him.  To at least attempt to do their constitutional job (protect the borders).  To at least try to keep objectionable characters out of the country (ban on travel from specific countries known to harbor terrorists).  Let them be emboldened and let them adapt that behavior pattern!

            Liberals always claim the moral high ground, but the past few months have absolutely deteriorated into the same kind of behavior they claim to deplore about the President.  They complain he lies...while producing an unending series of lies themselves.  They complain he talks bad...while producing unending name calling.  About all they haven't done is try to produce any useful results for the country themselves, preferring simply to destroy whatever he attempts to build.

            1. peoplepower73 profile image85
              peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

              Wilderness, No his actions can be criticized as well.  When he imitates a reporter with a nervous condition that tried to point out to him that he was lying about 2,000 Muslims  in New Jersey watching the trade center crashing down.  When he golfs every weekend at Mar-a Lago and criticizes Obama for golfing.  When the North Koreans launched their missile, he held a situation room conference with the President of Japan in front of his guests to see and hear and allowed pictures of the Nuclear Football to be taken.

              Wilderness and ahorseback:  You are doing the same thing that Trump and his crew do. It's called deflection.  You have separated Trump's physical actions from his verbal actions.  They make up the entire man.  They are all actions.  Don't confuse motion with progress. A rocking horse has motion, but no progress.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 5 months ago in reply to this

                Aw, c'mon, PP.  Do you really care when and where the President plays golf?  That's beneath even the far left.

                "They make up the entire man."

                ONLY if an honest effort is made to determine what is being said or intended.  One must also make allowance for differing styles, culture, etc.  So far I've seen precious little of either.

                "You are doing the same thing that Trump and his crew do. It's called deflection."

                No, I really am more interested in what he does (examples given above) than in what he says.  You certainly are though - can't see the Football is a big thing (interesting, though as I'd never heard of it) but you certainly want to turn it into one.

                1. peoplepower73 profile image85
                  peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

                  Wilderness:  The reason I brought up golf is because he made such a big deal about Obama playing Golf.  If Trump plays golf every weekend.  He will far surpass Obama's outings.  That's called hypocrisy.

          2. ahorseback profile image48
            ahorsebackposted 5 months ago in reply to this

            Liberals are simply and totally confused because they got used to" Face-Book Liking " people  instead of actually doing the homework and measuring the qualities of a man {woman }-  beyond  a candidates image.

            One simple reason that they cannot ,even NOW , unite  enough to chose a DNC leader .  It's actually a blast to watch the melt downs .

  3. wilderness profile image95
    wildernessposted 5 months ago

    It's fascinating that "change" means "destroy"...to the liberal that likes big government, anyway.  To the progressive who finds "progress" in more of the same things that fail.

    1. peoplepower73 profile image85
      peoplepower73posted 5 months ago in reply to this

      Wilderness: Bannon said all of this:

      "Nearly all of Trump’s cabinet choices are known mostly for despising and attacking the very Federal agencies they’ve been designated to lead. Bannon explained—in very clear language--that they weren't appointed to lead these agencies, but to destroy them:

      Atop Trump’s agenda, Bannon said, was the “deconstruction of the administrative state” — meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon one’s sovereignty."

      I heard it and saw it with my own eyes and ears.  Watch this video at 11:01 minutes into it and you will see and hear what I did.  In fact, watch the whole 24 minutes if you want.

      http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/ … orld-view/

      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 5 months ago in reply to this

        And you promptly take that to mean that someone knows, somehow, that the goal is to remove all taxes, all regulations and all trade pacts from government, destroying the system entirely rather than changing it.

        You go ahead and believe that fairy tale.

  4. peoplepower73 profile image85
    peoplepower73posted 5 months ago

    Wilderness:  That's no fairy tale.  You can believe it or not.  He sees himself as a Leninist.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 … inist.html

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    boardresultposted 5 months ago

    Everyone knows about Trump its only do the thing only for benefits for him. but some time its write but maximum times is wrong.

  6. stephenteacher profile image85
    stephenteacherposted 5 months ago

    In my lifetime, we had none of these agencies....and the world with them is NOT better. Government is one big, bloated bureaucracy. What have these wonderful DC insiders done for us in the past 16 years? Dept of Education...started 1979....and what do they have to show for it?

    1. promisem profile image94
      promisemposted 5 months ago in reply to this

      For one, I believe the Department of Education has brought equal standards to schools throughout the country and put a stop to racist policies by certain states.

      1. ahorseback profile image48
        ahorsebackposted 5 months ago in reply to this

        And created   racist problems in others , indoctrination socialist principles in purely undeveloped minds , created an uncontrollable  wage , benefit and retirement  economic  nightmare for the future of each state ,   and created tenures that protect ,  secure and guarantee  the  promise of some of the lowest education standards and testing results in the world .

      2. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 5 months ago in reply to this

        I agree.  It has also lowered standards in a great many schools and almost eliminated the top tier of teaching (the "gifted" programs).

 
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