Do You Care About President Trump's Golfing Trips

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   crankaliciousposted 7 years ago

   Do you care how many times President Trump has visited his golf courses during his short presidency? if not, that's fine, but Trump himself made a very big deal out of how many times President Obama played golf and is on record as saying he would stay in Washington and "work is ass off".
   
   Do such things matter?

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      wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Does he get the necessary work done?  Is he accomplishing what he needs to?  If so I couldn't care less if he played every day.

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         crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Except that his trips to Mar-A-Lago cost the taxpayer $3 million each.
         
         If you didn't care how much golf Obama played, then you are certainly on solid ground. Also golf can be played and business conducted at the same time.

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            jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            You do realize our budget is over 1 trillion $$$. a few million here and there is chuck change.
            Our government waste so much of our tax dollars...that is why we conservatives believe in a limited government as the best way forward.

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               crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               I actually believe in limited government. We just disagree on where it should be limited.

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                  jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  At least that is a start...
                  Where do you want to limit?
                  I am open to debate.

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                     crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Tax reform! I actually think Trump has some good ideas about tax reform. Increasing the individual standard deduction as a way of simplifying taxes makes a lot of sense even though it would probably hurt me personally.

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                        jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        I am for the fair tax. The tax code is too complex and full of loop holes for special interestes.
                        I want all people to pay some tax. That way, they have some skin in the game.
                        The fair tax is such that people pay their fair share and simplify the process.

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                           MizBejabbersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           I wish somebody would tell me what is "fair tax". The proposed Flat Tax hurts the poor and middle class much more than it hurts the rich. 5% or 10% of minimum wage or even $50,000 a year is a burden, but that same percentage on multimillionaires and billionaires is pocket change. The income levels of income tax was supposed to allow each taxpayer to pay his or her fair share, but it has obviously gotten out of hand.
                           The earned income credit is just another welfare program because people can get back more than they paid in or receive money back when they haven't paid in at all.
                           So what is fair? I'm willing to listen to anyone with good ideas.

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                              wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              A "fair" tax is one in which everyone pays the same.  We all get the same benefits (military protection, roads, etc.) after all, so we should all pay the same.
                              
                              Won't work, of course....

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            wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Good point - there really is a lot of business conducted on a golf course.

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               crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               I guess if Trump or Obama were playing hundreds of hours of ping pong, we should be upset. However, if you're playing golf, very little time is actually spent playing. It's mostly walking and talking.

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                  wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Again, if he gets what needs doing, done, can't see that it matters.  None of us put in nearly as many work hours as Trump does, or Obama did, as president; it seems incredibly petty of us to complain when they play for a few hours.  For that matter we know that people need time off and to deny our President that would be quite shortsighted.

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                     crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Stressful jobs are performed better when there is down time.

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                  ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I wondered about that, if there is walking - that is great exercise for a 70 year old man
                  
                  But no he uses a golf cart. -

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      No one has come close to Obama's over 300 rounds of golf in 8 years...
      I actually hoped he would play more so that he could do less damage haha...

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         crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         No one has come close? You are wrong. Here's a link:
         
         http://www.golfdigest.com/story/weve-cr … -in-office
         
         Woodrow Wilson played 1200 rounds. Ike played 800. And George W. Bush, while perhaps not playing as much golf, took 4 times as many vacation days.

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      promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Too many people fail to understand that he is visiting his own golf courses for the sake of promoting them and getting rich from the publicity.
      
      He is doing the same thing with his resort in Florida. Taxpayers fork out millions for him to fly down there every weekend and walking around in front of people who pay $200,000 for a membership (increased from $100,000 after he got elected).
      
      Amazing how the so-called fiscal conservatives don't grasp the extent of his corruption and cost to the taxpayers.

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   Sharlee01posted 7 years ago

   Not sure he has taken any? I know he has been on three trips to visit his Florida home. However, I follow his facebook page, and all three trips he posted his itinerary for the trips,  he had several meetings with other Heads of Nations, business CEO's as well as a wide variety of other groups. He actually post a daily schedule, and a weekly video of what he feels he may have accomplished. I don't think I have ever seen a President use his time more wisely or one that is more transparent. He has faults, but wasting time is surely not one of them. If he squeezed in a gulf game, more power to him. I am a it tired of all the attacks on our new president on nitpicking subjects. Time to tune in and see what he has been really working on... Anyone that feels he is wasting his time or spending out dime, check out his facebook, could not hurt... Oh, he also has confirmed he will not be taking a salary more than $1.00. As have the better part of his cabinet. I also did not care if Obama took time off for recreation.  Before one judges if he is "working his ass off", have a look at his schedule. It's the fair thing to do. I check his facebook daily, and feel very well informed, and one can not all but see he is working his ass off...

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      crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Based on the numerous false statements he has made, I would not judge his Facebook feed as a source of accurate nor unbiased information, but I guess that's up to the person digesting that information and, most likely, their politics.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years ago

   I'm more concerned with the cost of secret service protection for his sons going to places like Dubai to open more Trump hotels at tax payer expense.  Trump probably only ran for president for perks like this.

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You got to be kidding.
      Trump does not need our tax dollars. I do believe the only reason he ran for President is he wants to restore America to its former glory. He is a senior citizen with grandkids. He would prefer to golf all day and spoil his grandkids. He took this on because he interviewed all the GOP candidates and found them lacking... for whatever reason, he won.

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         promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Yet each trip weekend trip to Mar-a-Lago costs taxpayers like you and me more than $3 million.
         
         "About $770,000 of that cost was borne by the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Secret Service, while the other $2.8 million was billed to the Defense Department, primarily for the use of Air Force One and its accompanying support." - The Hill

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            ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            "The HILL"
            There's your problem .
            Take all of the money that  the media spent on Hilary's campaign Against Trump , take all of the money Hilary spent on her campaign against Trump ,  take all of the money that was spent by the RNC and the DNC BOTH to fight Trump ,  Add them all together !
            Trump paid for his own campaign - Serves his country for no salary  ?
            Can you not figure that all up ?,
            
            I figure Trump can Golf "on my dime " for the next thirty years with my tax dollar .

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               ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Whatta Maroon. It wasn't 100% self funded. Quit lying. Show me the evidence that he refused Prex pay - other than a lie from RumpleThinSkin himself.
               
               Quit lying. Quit lying for a liar.

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                  ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Better go back to liberal 101 , your  "slip is  showing" .

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            ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I wonder exactly what Obama's trips to Hawaii  cost , never been there myself , I hear it's mega expensive !       
            
            Time to grow up people .

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      wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Protection is part of the package, and I for one shall not quibble about a few million protecting the President and his family from the insanity.  Nor shall I expect any of them to sit deep inside Cheyenne mountain for the duration, never seeing the light of day, to save a few bucks of the secret service budget.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years ago

   The Fair Tax is a national sales tax.  People living below the poverty line get waivers.

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      wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      It's "fair" that person A pays more for a loaf of bread than person "B"?  They both get the same product for their money - what makes that "fair"?

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         Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Are you seriously advocating that this isn't fair or are you just having fun? Should a poor person spend a larger percentage of their income for a loaf of bread because a person who can easily afford one and pay a sales tax doesn't think it is fair?
         
         Honestly. Poor people in the inner cities are already at a disadvantage because the cost of goods is higher than it is out in the country. People who can't afford insurance are already gouged by the medical industry. They pay a great deal more for services than the insurance company does for people it covers.
         
         Are you going to begrudge an untaxed loaf of bread to them?

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years ago

   They get a voucher for the tax, not the item itself.  Right now, people who don't make an annual income above a certain amount, don't pay tax.  How is this different?

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