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What country is the most problematic for the world?

  1. raiderfan profile image61
    raiderfanposted 7 years ago

    Some countries would say America is for always involving itself in other countries issues and economies. Americans are lead to believe the biggest problem is a toss up between Iran and North Korea even though we are involved in Iraq and Afghanistan still. Other would say China because it is the Economic Superpower and it has too much leverage because of it. Thoughts?

    1. apeksha profile image60
      apekshaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If it comes to say about showing superpowers then it is one and only US as it is tring to power up on other countries...

      1. raiderfan profile image61
        raiderfanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        But Americans aren't told China is carrying alot of their debt and this dictates their foreign policy towards a country like Iran, that supposedly provides oil for China, and North Korea is protected by China as well for political philosophy.

    2. andromida profile image75
      andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think its USA.If you look into the root of the most of the recent problems associated with terrorism and economic recession.And the the good news is that solving the problems is also much easier since only USA has the power to solve out all its problems.The only  thing USA need to do is to value the world opinion.

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      Writer Riderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No country. I mean, really, if we are too divisive we'll destroy ourselves and plant earth.

    4. guidebaba profile image60
      guidebabaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      99% Indians would say "Pakistan".

      1. countrywomen profile image60
        countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Not me. And generalizing almost all Indians isn't a particularly appropriate thing to do. In my view the present Communist China would be the biggest threat(unless they have some sort of representative government anytime in the near future). Right now they are both economically and militarily powerful. Recently there was a move by China to introduce Yuan as the world currency. Besides that there are multiple flash points with respect to china i.e., Tibet, Taiwan,North Korea, Human rights, Labor issues, technology spying and so on. And Goldentoad did give lots of valid reasons earlier. smile

        1. moposan profile image60
          moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Dont think China can be a problem they got too many people to care about.

    5. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      *** I S R A E L ***

      Because of the following main reasons.

      1) Christian Zionists of USA and Europe back them up for their evil plans.

      2) Israeli and Christian Zionists created Federal Reserve Bank, International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank which are now considered the major cause of uncertainty in the whole world particularly in the recent Credit Crunch scenario.

      3) The networth of Rothschild family and Freemasons secret society is approx. 7 trillion dollars much more than the capital of USA which is around 4 trillion dollars. The major portion of the Diamond, Platinium and Gold of the whole world is accumulated by Zionists.

      4) They are promoting Globalization and the lay man is against it especially American masses

      5) Ordinary Jews of Europe and America are against the Christian and Israeli Zionists rather they are against Israel as a State who constituted it to be their birth right to rule over the world by any good or bad means.

      6) They label Palestinian Muslims as terrorists just for they fight against the cruel expansion of Israeli borders in their territory.

      7) Israel has the maximum number of Nuclear Weapons as compared to other countries

      8) The borders of Israeli state expand on the basis of butchering, slaughtering, murdering and decieving – the difference can be checked up between 1946 and 2009.

      9) Israeli intelligence agency MOSSAD is helping out [b]RAW (Indian Intelligence Agency) from 1970s in order to grab the world from all the sides.

      10) The Protocols of Zion became true and were leaked by their own fellows (fedup of their oppression and cruelty) almost 100 years back. These Protocols, one by one, are crucial in the wicked existance and expansion of Israel.

      1. lxxy profile image61
        lxxyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        RF, you and I know what's going on. The Rothschild family is a disgusting force to be reckoned with--I'm pretty sure they control a fair amount of the politics in the world, and I know they control a nice chunk of the EU. They only own like half of it. Thanks shell corporations!

        1. My Inner Jew profile image83
          My Inner Jewposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          OH my gosh half of this is hilarious and so untrue...where do some statistics come from????

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            What a load!

        2. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, you are right, and the name sake Muslims are also controlled by them which they call as Honorary Masons

      2. LondonGirl profile image90
        LondonGirlposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        anti-semitic rubbish. Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Give me a break. It's pathetic that people still try to pretend that is anything but a very crude fake.

        1. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          If someone blames the butchering by the hands of Israel, you label them as anti-semitic and put in Guantanamo bay.

        2. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          IN an interview published in the New York World February 17, 1921, Mr. Henry Ford put the case for the "Protocols of Zion" tersely and convincingly. He said: "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now." He made this statement when Jewish leaders and the Jewish Press in America were fulminating against a series of articles printed in Ford's newspaper The Dearborn Independent during the years 1920 to 1922. After some years of pressure such as only organized Jewry can conceive or inflict. Henry Ford was made to apologise to Jewry in a letter addressed to Louis Marshall, then leader of the American Jewish Committee, dated June 30, 1927. Ford's apology was abject, but neither then nor since did he ever deny the truth of the articles.

          Further, these protocols were leaked by the Zionists themselves not any Muslim, Jew, Christian or Anti-Semetic

          1. tksensei profile image61
            tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Henry Ford was a rabid anti-semite. Who the hell do you think you're fooling?

    6. My Inner Jew profile image83
      My Inner Jewposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well I would have to say Iran just because it has the nuclear power and would use it in a heartbeat...but i don't think it would use it on us but Israel...Israel is quickly becomeing a super power.  They have the best technology, medicine, and 4th best army in the world...and they only have 7 million jewish citizens

  2. darkside profile image84
    darksideposted 7 years ago

    I think it's a toss up between North Korea and Tasmania.

    1. raiderfan profile image61
      raiderfanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Tasmania does sound dangerous and they have devils.

    2. Eaglekiwi profile image75
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Tassy aww..cute lol

    3. Misha profile image74
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Tasmania of course, they have Eric lol

    4. karthimessenger profile image60
      karthimessengerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think china..Because They slowly control over all world..
      They have a lot Of nuclear weapons..Some weapons direction to Russia,India and America...

  3. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    I think Pakistan is. The problem that will be hardest to deal with is gaining the trust of tribes.

    1. raiderfan profile image61
      raiderfanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      They got nukes too.

    2. apeksha profile image60
      apekshaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Agreed as In India the terrorism is created by only Pakistan.

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        nazishnasimposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        USA + USSR -> Talibans
        Talibans infiltration into the world -> 9/11
        9/11 -> War on Terrorism
        WOT -> Suicide Bombers

        Pakistan suffers from highest number of Suicide Bombings since the poor country joined hands with USA for War on Terrorism. I'd say Pakistan is the most pitiable country that has stood at loss more than any other country in the world.
        Also,(b/w Pakistan and India) the blame game of who started terrorism in which country first is a never ending tirade ... so I wouldn't even jump into that debate.

        1. raiderfan profile image61
          raiderfanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Who is in charge of Pakistan really?

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            nazishnasimposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I am still looking for the answer to that one Raider.

            1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
              Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Dont know who should be in charge but the USA does have alot of control

              1. JonTutor profile image59
                JonTutorposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                @Nazishnasim This is the most common misconception.... ever since I lost my cousin in 911 tragedy I have been researching this.....US supported the Mujahideen against the Soviets... Once the Soviets left then it created a vacuum... for a while there was Northern Alliance... once Al qaeda eliminated there leader.... the home grown terrorists from Pakistani Madrasas took control and they are the Taliban... US didn't create Taliban.....Pakistani Madrasas created taliban.... Pakistan is reaping the seeds of terrorism sown for years... the Pakistani ISI considered them "good" terrorists promoting there cause in India but now the "CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST"...  there are no good terrorists and bad terrorists... they are simply terrorists... finally the Pakistanis seem to have realized this... not sure if the Army will succeed....  God forbade if those terrorists get hold of the nukes the world won't be safe.

        2. Anamika S profile image73
          Anamika Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          As the saying goes 'the one who digs the pit falls into the pit'.

          1. usmanali81 profile image60
            usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            The blame game has the following chain that goes back to Ancient Egypt's false Pagan doctrines and worhip of evil.

            Ancient Egypt--Crusaders--Knights Templars--Kabbalah--Freemasons

            1. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It is much simpler than that. The blame can be laid on the human condition. No matter how much humans learn, they remain neurotic in fairly small numbers yet enough to screw it for the rest!

              1. usmanali81 profile image60
                usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                The miserable human condition which you have around the world is due to the above mentioned chain whose followers are totally against One True God - ALLAH

                1. earnestshub profile image89
                  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  One true god? The one you choose right? And you are right always? I do not believe in your god.

                  1. usmanali81 profile image60
                    usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    This one God is the same in almost all religions. Even the upgrade of Atheism called Agnostisism is convinced for this Only One God, The Greatest.

    3. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
      VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Pakistan can never be treated as problematic. Their reluctance to act on tribal terrorists makes it problematic. But Pak. defence forces can settle the issue, if they act impartially.

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I fear that they may not act impartially. Do you believe it would be plausible to strengthen the police force and legal infrastructure? (with assistance from the UN with America's help as well.)

  4. Pearldiver profile image88
    Pearldiverposted 7 years ago

    I agree with Darkside.

    Tasmania.. has a Dark History that they have hidden from the world.

    1. raiderfan profile image61
      raiderfanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      they have a secret animal besides a devil?

      1. Pearldiver profile image88
        Pearldiverposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yep. They Do.. It IS the Tassis themselves..And you can ask the mainland Australians WHY.

        But just a Clue.... It's got something to do with a 2nd Head!

        Thank the god that she never gave us THAT problem in Bumble Town - NZ.. smile

        1. raiderfan profile image61
          raiderfanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I don't know anything about Tassies but they sound seriously dangerous.

      2. blondepoet profile image79
        blondepoetposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Omg Tasmania, why???? That's it EricG I aint coming there to visit you until I know it is safe.

        1. JonTutor profile image59
          JonTutorposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What's wrong with Tasmania???

  5. countrywomen profile image60
    countrywomenposted 7 years ago

    Even I am curious why Tasmania?

    1. Pearldiver profile image88
      Pearldiverposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Maybe Mythbuster has THAT answer?

      1. mythbuster profile image85
        mythbusterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        *ahem* Why, yes, Pearldiver. I think I can answer the question. I am enacting my right to redefine the question back to the original question and forget that Tasmania was mentioned... Now, lemme see, lemme think...the country most problematic for the world...

        *scratches head 'til light bulb appears*

        Ah - yes...the country that is most problematic in the world, for the world is...

        UTOPIA...the place where I come from. Inside of Utopia there are the concepts of perfect peace, perfect freedom, perfect human rights, environment, etc. While we should aim for these things, anyone or any country that actually INSISTS on any form of government to bring about these perfections is problematic to the world.

        Nationalism is dangerous to the world - breeds 'competition' and the building of 'national mythology' instead of critical thinking and historical accuracy...technically, I think that MOST countries are detrimental to the rest of the world. Any given place could erupt with nationalist fervor, demand that other nations, races and peoples are inferior to them and create worldwide havoc.

        Countries who will not problem-solve with other countries, agree to adaptations, changes, and flexibility are a danger to the world...do I sound like a socialist now?

        I'm going back to Utopia now, to my perfect world because I should not have engaged with this topic just because my name was dropped in the forum lol

        (Sorry...I became curious as to how I would answer this broad, GIGANTIC question - and now I know...can I try again on an easier question? Can I still be a phone-buddy for the trivia game show? I'll study-up hard over the next month, I promise)

        Haha smile

        Must go, U-world is waiting for me.

  6. RooBee profile image83
    RooBeeposted 7 years ago

    The Tasmanian Woodchuck is absolutely terrifying

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      Brainbusterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So is their Bush Rat, with its menacing whiskers.

    2. alekhouse profile image80
      alekhouseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Can we be just a little bit serious here?

  7. Rotem profile image60
    Rotemposted 7 years ago

    Iran and North Korea.

  8. apeksha profile image60
    apekshaposted 7 years ago

    I think Pakistan and Iran.

  9. JonTutor profile image59
    JonTutorposted 7 years ago

    Who is in charge of Pakistan? Dude that is really a good question. My answer would be three A's... Allah(fundamentalists), Army(Pakistan) and America.  Civilian democracy is a joke in Pakistan.... no civilian PM seems to ever complete the term without some Army Generals/Dictators like Presidents removing them from power.  And now that they have nukes they can fall into some religious nut cases hands. There home grow madrasas of terrorists students are haunting with bomb blasts in there own country.  I don't think that country will get through this civil war. Pakistan has to realize there are no "good" terrorists (who spread their ISI agenda of spreading terror in Afghanistan, Central Asia and India) and bad terrorists involving in terrorism in Pakistan. Terrorists are terrorists period.

    1. raiderfan profile image61
      raiderfanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So why does America get involved really? What do they gain, if they are never fully in control?

      1. JonTutor profile image59
        JonTutorposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        If America openly even seems to be in control then the Pak Army attack against terrorists would backfire.....there is some strong anti America sentiment going on there now. Earlier to get rid of soviets and now not to let the nukes get into wrong hands. Dude, I just read some stuff and watch news.....not really an expert. Gain could be safe access to central asian oil fields.

      2. Eaglekiwi profile image75
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        My guess would be allies , money, oil ,or all three

  10. LondonGirl profile image90
    LondonGirlposted 7 years ago

    Pakistan, I think.

  11. BristolBoy profile image82
    BristolBoyposted 7 years ago

    Depends what you class as problematic.  Most people are goign off on the terrorism line, but other things create many more deaths than terrorism (think hunger, global warming, drugs etc).  As such it would be very hard to determine which country is most problematic.  I would say potentially US/Australia/China/Gulf countries/Canada/Europe because of global warming (already third of a million deaths caused by global warming according to the UN with more than 325 million affected - http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCr … SLS1002309).  The reason for the large number of countries included in this depends on how it is determined eg China has largest emissions for a country, whereas Gulf countries/Australia/Canada have massive emssions per capita and Europe and US have large emeissions per capita from a large population for a long time.  However or this global warming is a problem not only based on one country but many, and so I feel it would be bad to single one out as it is a problem for all of humanity to try and face.

    On drugs Columbia and Afganistan are two major sources for deadly drugs, and I would imagine drugs result in more deaths (not only from using drugs but also drug dealing/violence etc) than terrorism does. 

    This is a brief overview purely based on two factors which result in a lot of deaths, without even looking at economics etc.

    1. moposan profile image60
      moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lets just call it global contaminating instead of warming as the latter is not proven

  12. goldentoad profile image59
    goldentoadposted 7 years ago

    In the long run, I would say China.
    * Food supplies
    * Energy consumption
    * Destruction to the environment
    * Lack of human values in the labor laws
    * Economic Strength/Monopoly
    * Political Regime
    * Military capabilities

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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Agreed.  Add to that, over population and human rights violations.

      1. moposan profile image60
        moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        This is your position So I dont see no misrepresentation of  your position in my posts.
          If you refuse to buy chinese goods in walmart dont buy chinese pc- be consistent in your position and there will be no strawman what so ever?

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          Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          That's even ASSUMING your implication is my position.  The initial post was in reply to a prompted question...  Other posts answering/commenting on the thoughts of other posters.  So, that what you think you 'see' you should not assume... 

          You are creating a strawman to argue what I would have to tell you is a moot point, but which I don't feel like typing, frankly... Similar to what you did when you first came here assuming so much about shoes & women.  Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

          1. moposan profile image60
            moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Next you tell me I shouldnt see what I see and assume anythimg from what i see And your position is not your position but my position assumed from what I shouldn't see.

          2. moposan profile image60
            moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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    Béla Mongyiposted 7 years ago

    It's China.

  14. seemorebangkok profile image60
    seemorebangkokposted 7 years ago

    I wouldn't worry too much about North Korea. Whoever's in charge there is just a spoiled child wanting to see how far they could get away with things. All puff and no smoke.

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    Béla Mongyiposted 7 years ago

    In my area all factories were destroyed. Not just closed. Destroyed. Production was moved to someplace else. Guess where.

    1. seemorebangkok profile image60
      seemorebangkokposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      India?

      1. countrywomen profile image60
        countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You would be surprised if I told you that there were many production plants closed even in India and the work was transferred to China. We have "China Bazaar/Market" in almost every major city who sell there goods at half the price of local goods(although the quality is doubtful sometimes). Walmart has tied up with local Indian company now to spread wholesale products to counter the unorganized mushrooming of Chinese goods/shops.

        India is also facing the brunt maybe not as much as other countries but still Chinese products have swept India too. smile

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          Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          We have stopped visiting Walmart for anything.

          edit*  It's my understanding that Walmart IS China...at least here in the US...

          1. nicomp profile image59
            nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            But you don't go there, so you really can't say for sure.

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              Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              OK, I'll try to be polite, smile.  Uh, do conservatives and liberals HAVE to disagree with everything, or is it just kind of an identity politic you are assuming?

              My post read "we have STOPPED" going.  Meaning that we must have, some time in the past, So!  I may just know after all.

              I'm sure you agree, also, shopping locally is probably a good thing, smile.  A  place where libs and cons. collide?  lol

        2. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
          VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I agree that Chines products flood Indian markets. But what kind of products?  Dolls, petty items which cost less than Rs.100/-  Can we not pull on without these petty items? Because it gives livelihood to lakhs of Indians, we have to bear it. But it cannot have a say on our economic strength.

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    Béla Mongyiposted 7 years ago

    I've never visited Walmart, so I'm a Saint. It's true that they are not present in my country. But still I think I'm a Saint.

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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL  There are other reasons we don't got to Walmart besides the fact they are China.  Like, the merchandise sucks, and it's cold and impersonal, and Target, a good MN, USA company that is ethical exists.  Reasons enough!

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        Béla Mongyiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Sorry for not paying attention in the first place. lol smile
        Seriously, avoid Tes f***ing co too. The least ethical company ever!

      2. moposan profile image60
        moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Would you be happier if china was poor as Africa?

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          Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Nonsensical.

          1. moposan profile image60
            moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            By the way, check out your computer where its made in?

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              Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              What I'm saying is that you are assuming many things about the poster you really have no idea about.  Therefore, the posts are nonsensical. What you are trying to prove you are trying to prove against a strawman.

              You might want to look the term up, smile.  I'm doing research on formal argumentation and it is helpful.

            2. BristolBoy profile image82
              BristolBoyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Not sure about all of the individual components but my laptop is made in Europe (not sure where - just says the EU).

              1. moposan profile image60
                moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                My congratulations.

  17. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 7 years ago

    I wonder how all the people have forgotten Saudi Arabia. It is the homeland of Binladen. He moves around between Pakistan and Afganistan... but his roots are in Saudi Arabia. Just to save their holy places, they have driven him out of their country. But that does not mean they disowned him. He gains his resources very much from his homeland... leads a large terrorist network, and the main cause for all the misery and sufferings of people Pakistan, Afganistan, Iran, Iraq and others. If he is driven out from these areas, there will be no problem in these areas.

  18. nyliram profile image61
    nyliramposted 7 years ago

    what is the threat the people that have power not necessarily the Country I mean one man could jeopardise the World.
    Uneducate Countries may have the Power in term of Bombs and set them off. religious extremists are the Biggest threat, from any Country.
    I live in New Zealand so am Kiwi now no longer worry much!!!!!!!

  19. moposan profile image60
    moposanposted 7 years ago

    Why cant I assume that if you are scared by the economic growth and overpopulation of China you d rather see it less developed.That is totally logical to me.

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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Which is your logical fallacy.  Because perhaps there may be other factors influencing my ACTUAL position.  There may be unknown variables to you.

      Positions and people--even on the written page--are not 2D "strawmen."

      1. moposan profile image60
        moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        you just obsessed with the word.But thanks for a new one.

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          Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          No, sorry.  Again.  I am doing research on argumentation.  I AM interested in it, yep.  But a rose by any other name would smell as sweet...or, lol, like straw!  smile

          1. moposan profile image60
            moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I hope when you finish your research you wont see any straws in my arguments.

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              Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Uh, no.  Why no.  But how the heck could you know that most graphic designers use Mac computers?  Apple. Made in CA.  Ahem.

              Or that my actual position is that OBVIOUSLY it is hard to be consistent with goods from China.  Christ.  But goods from China are usually crap.  Which is not a good reason to buy merchandise.  And actually, it is easy for any one person not to be consistent about anything.  But maybe one should try to at least do what they think is right.  SO, you make inherent 'psycho' analysis in your sentence long assumptions and binary thought processes and talk to straw.

              Happy?  Reminiscent of Fightclub and Hemmingway there for ya?

              Evidently, where you live must be a very, very boring place, wink.

              1. moposan profile image60
                moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Wow Lita I am flattered. Didnt expect such interest from you.

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                  Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Of course you wouldn't. With the mustache, wink and two sentence replies....especially the two sentence replies and stupidity.  But there ya have it!

                  Now go tell Blonde Poet to sit on a washing machine, wink

                  1. moposan profile image60
                    moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    wow Lita, is that tones of jealousy I hear?or u just trying to provoke me on writing long reply.May be I will....be patient.by the way your picture reminds me of  Dali's Gala.

  20. moposan profile image60
    moposanposted 7 years ago

    Better say -you wont smell any straw in my arguments.

  21. moposan profile image60
    moposanposted 7 years ago

    better-You wont smell any straws in my arguments.

  22. goldentoad profile image59
    goldentoadposted 7 years ago

    Is this an argument on how to argue?

    1. moposan profile image60
      moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Kind of.And I was maliciously accused of strawmanning.

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        Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Again.  Nonsensical.  I'm not going to play along with someone who tells me what my position is.

        Find someone who IS malicious.

        1. moposan profile image60
          moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          you sound malicious enough to me.

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            Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I'm very sorry you can't muster more than a few syllables, or do not feel like doing so...and endlessly will post this 'stuff.'  At times I am interested in 'funny' if this is what this is supposed to be.  At times I am interested in an actual argument.  Which IS getting more and more difficult on these forums.

            If you find me malicious, you are welcome to report me to hubpages.  Be careful that you aren't the one who is being malicious and inadvertently reporting yourself.

            End "conversation."  I'm sorry.

            1. moposan profile image60
              moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Didn't know you would be that touchy.

    2. moposan profile image60
      moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      By the way thanks for paper and potty .That really helped.

      1. goldentoad profile image59
        goldentoadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        what can I say, I am into more sophisticated techniques.

        1. moposan profile image60
          moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I have read some representation of it.it was some how Reminiscent of Fight club and Hemingway at the same time.

  23. moposan profile image60
    moposanposted 7 years ago

    What a hell I should  report you even if you were really malicious.

  24. goldentoad profile image59
    goldentoadposted 7 years ago

    I predict there will be another fruitful encounter.

  25. Eaglekiwi profile image75
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Its Why the hell ( just thought Id mention it)

    1. moposan profile image60
      moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      right u are

  26. goldentoad profile image59
    goldentoadposted 7 years ago

    So is Pepsi as good as Coca Cola? I used to think maybe pepsi had a chance but I don't anymore.

    1. moposan profile image60
      moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Coca cola is evidently better.Pepsi is just a bloody disgusting rip off.

      1. moposan profile image60
        moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Pepsi even sounds obscene.

        1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
          Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Obscene works for me as far as drinks go
          Do the Dew ,even better

          1. goldentoad profile image59
            goldentoadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            as far as flavor goes, I like the Dr.

            1. moposan profile image60
              moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Vodka redbull but not anymore

            2. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I got in to the vanilla coke for a while.

      2. 0
        Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Coke is better.  Buffet behind it.

        1. moposan profile image60
          moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          He got some share but I wouldn't overestimate Warren.However I do like him-he looks and sounds as a really good hell of a Grandpa.Nice role model.

          1. 0
            Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Ha!  Of course you're older than he is.

  27. guidebaba profile image60
    guidebabaposted 7 years ago

    Chilled BEER is OK for me.

  28. moposan profile image60
    moposanposted 7 years ago

    Green tea I say

  29. moposan profile image60
    moposanposted 7 years ago

    And its a bloody pity there is no bloody green tea in American McDonalds but it is in European.

  30. moposan profile image60
    moposanposted 7 years ago

    may be because its chinese.

  31. goldentoad profile image59
    goldentoadposted 7 years ago

    I need me a good soda with a hamburger not some green tea. If I am going to be unhealthy, I want to do it right!

    1. moposan profile image60
      moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Agreed-your choice.But I need bloody green tea.My suggestion It should be free of charge in junk food for the sake of society and decrease of obesity.Earmarked by the government.

  32. countrywomen profile image60
    countrywomenposted 7 years ago

    Moposan- They may have "too many people" but not sure of the "care about" part. wink

    1. moposan profile image60
      moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      In their own way I guess but with great improvement comparing to just a several decades ago.

      1. moposan profile image60
        moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        dont forget China is multinational country so they got a lot of internal problems.

        1. countrywomen profile image60
          countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          There are problems or opportunities depends on how one sees it. There is a silent minority who try to stand up for more rights and they are considered as "problems" too by the Communist government. In India there is a spiritual saying that goes like this "if someone is polishing the golden cage without caring for the well being of the bird inside then from outside it looks attractive to others who see the shining golden cage but only the bird inside knows that the golden cage means nothing for it as long as it is not well fed or given some freedom". Have a good day. Got to have our dinner now. smile

          1. moposan profile image60
            moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            bon appetite

  33. maidouxixi profile image59
    maidouxixiposted 7 years ago

    china is a powerful and peaceful  country.It contributes a lot to the world .we should be horor of china .who can say it's a problematic.don't be so positive .we should post our viem from the real situation .
    china is the peace  star of the world . It own a very important position of the world .obama agrees with me too !

    1. countrywomen profile image60
      countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I have been to Tibetan Monastery(witnessed the horror pictures) and recently there was 2 decades of Tiananmen square tragedy(which was not even allowed to be covered properly by BBC America). China still has occupied parts of Indian territory too after the Chinese attack. In my office there is a Chinese girl and she hardly knew about Tiananmen square incident till she came to US. The communist government censors and indoctrinates from a very early age.  And in fact even now there is very little freedom of information to its own citizens. America will publicly agree since they are joined at the hips because big businesses are tied too closely with governments. There is no doubt that China is an important player in the world affairs(and hopefully it will be equally responsible too). Have a good day. smile

    2. tksensei profile image61
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Both relative measures, to be sure.

  34. countrywomen profile image60
    countrywomenposted 7 years ago

    Thanks Moposan. May you have a great week ahead. smile

  35. Capable Woman profile image79
    Capable Womanposted 7 years ago

    Raider Nation

    1. raiderfan profile image61
      raiderfanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      U know it!

  36. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    Usmanali81, what are your sources for these statements about Israel and these other statements about Europe and American Zionists?

    1. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile when i quote authentic references, you blame me for copy n paste and now that i wrote without any reference, you are demanding it. What's going on in your upper portion???

  37. JonTutor profile image59
    JonTutorposted 7 years ago

    Earnestshub, Don't hold your breath....You won't get any reliable proof anytime soon. That dude sure needs to be in a facility. Is he on crack...I sure can't get my head around his crazy talk. He seems to have a one track mind with unshakeable belief in crazy idiotic stuff. My Prof would fail him for plagiarism. All his posts are nothing but repeating others shitty writing here. He is trying to  use his religious background to justify his preferred personal opinion..... which goes like this.
    Let me make it simple:
    Islam = Good
    Other religions = Bad,
    Palestine/Pakistan = Good
    USA/Europe/Israel/India= Bad.

    1. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      why truth irritates your skull???

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        It is not truth that is irritating! And I did not demand anything. I asked you a question.

        1. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          surf the web, visit BBC, Aljazera, CNN, you will find your answer.

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you.

            1. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Ok I went and visited the BBC Aljazera, CNN. I listen to the BBC it is one of my favorite radio stations. I still have the same point of view!

              1. countrywomen profile image60
                countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Earnestshub- No matter what myself or anybody else states here, Mr.Usman would only believe what he has been told to believe(and wants to believe) i.e., no point reallyhttp://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6403/naughtydt8.gif And when somebody considers all these outlandish conspiracies as "facts" http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4500/undecidedlb6.gif then there isn't much to be gained by engaging in further discussion. Bye I am getting out of here.http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6448/ohnonj4.gif

                1. usmanali81 profile image60
                  usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Prove that the points i mentioned are not facts.

                  1. countrywomen profile image60
                    countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Mr.Usman- The burden of proof is upon you. As far as I am concerned most of the things you mention are conspiracies which hardly anybody tends to take seriously. Have a good day. smile

              2. usmanali81 profile image60
                usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                which one???

  38. JonTutor profile image59
    JonTutorposted 7 years ago

    Dude look up the dictionary for what these words mean... truth/authentic references.  I am done talking to a nut case. Adios.

  39. RKHenry profile image79
    RKHenryposted 7 years ago

    China

  40. lxxy profile image61
    lxxyposted 7 years ago

    I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say Atlantis.

    Or Rome...but then again, there's always Botswana....

    ...actually, Nigeria's chief export is 419 Scams and we all know how much Somalia loves to create pirates.

    But I suppose it's all relative.

    1. mayorking profile image60
      mayorkingposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Wrong! Crude oil is the chief export of Nigeria. The 419 is just by a few elements who incidentally are feeding on the greed of others to make money. Both the scammer and the scammed are guilty if you ask me.

      1. accofranco profile image77
        accofrancoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ixxy i quote you wrong, watch out, most 419 or scam victims are greedy corrupt fellows who wants to get rich quick,so they fall prey to get rich quick scams. Go and read my hub on scam and 419.

  41. accofranco profile image77
    accofrancoposted 7 years ago

    USA, Israel and Palestine, then Afghan. Tasmania is also there.

    1. countrywomen profile image60
      countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I guess the original question was meant to be a single choice but then I guess you like multiple choices. tongue

      1. accofranco profile image77
        accofrancoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Then my first choice goes; tune in to CNN,EURONEWS,Sky News or Aljazeera, their news about war engagement is there, Diego Gacia,the secret prison,Guentemala Bay,torture and overpowering etc

      2. accofranco profile image77
        accofrancoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Then my first choice goes; tune in to CNN,EURONEWS,Sky News or Aljazeera, their news about war engagement is there, Diego Gacia,the secret prison,torture and overpowering etc

  42. accofranco profile image77
    accofrancoposted 7 years ago

    @ Ixxy,you are a rare gem! I bow for your outspokeness and profound intelligence,you deserve a diamond medal. USA is the single country backing Israel to embark on these evil works,they are trying to do what Hitler did though this was why Hitler revolted against the Jews for trying to dominate the world. Countries must stand agains this.UN is an American-Israeli tool, same to IMF,ICC,World Bank and WHO.

    1. LondonGirl profile image90
      LondonGirlposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, all those 6 million holocaust victims had it coming, the bastards....

      Any chance this crude, anti-semitic idiot could be removed from the site?

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Now there is a good idea!

      2. countrywomen profile image60
        countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        LG- Accofranco seems to be reflecting on the earlier post by lxxy which was in fact earlier posted by Mr. Usman Ali. I am not trying to defend him but just trying to give him a benefit of doubt. Accofranco seems to be a young opinionated impressionable guy who may really not have deep entrenched anti-semitic feelings. Have a good day everyone. smile

        PS: Accofranco, Please refrain from generalizations and such stereotypes aren't improving your personal credibility.

        1. LondonGirl profile image90
          LondonGirlposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Youth gets you a pass over some things. Not that level of anti-semitism, in my book.

          Only yesterday some idiot in the USA shot security guards at the Holocaust Museum. That makes the comments particularly insensitive.

          1. countrywomen profile image60
            countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yes indeed it was insensitive and I hope even accofranco regrets such callous remarks. I am finally done for the day. Have a good day everyone.

            PS: My Inner Jew- That posting under "Israel" was originally posted by Mr.Usman Ali here(just in case if folks falsely attribute raiderfan with such conspiracies) http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/15421?page=6

            1. My Inner Jew profile image83
              My Inner Jewposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks!

      3. My Inner Jew profile image83
        My Inner Jewposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          My sentiments excatly...People who speak against Israel does anger me...One thing that can anger me...

        This hub http://hubpages.com/hub/Obama-And-the-Road-Map-To-Peace  explains all the "injustice" the Israeli's are putting on others

  43. accofranco profile image77
    accofrancoposted 7 years ago

    UN sent their investigation team (IAEA)to Iraq to verify the presence of weapons of mass destruction,IAEA reported negative, USA insisted on waging war in Iraq. They wiped the entire Sadam family and killed an elected president of a country when UN said no more Death Penalty,they violated the law.Most USA leaders have done worse than what Sadam Husein did in secret and in open doors but they killed only him.They entered Saudi Arabia,scattered their peace,Afghan,Pakistan,Palestine,India etc what else?We all know the truth and most honorable Americans are crying against these villains and wickedness.Why can't nations stand against these as they did in the time of Hitler?May be afraid of usa eh?

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The world has had a rough time and it will take a while to get past the current wars, but although I do not agree with what Bush did, the terrorism has been horrific from both sides of all of these current wars. Pakistan is in terrible trouble because it allowed the tribes to continue without proper education and infrastructure for so long, now they will be jolted in to this century with much loss of life because the taliban are living amongst them and supporting them they will have a very hard time as Pakistan tries to regain control over it's own territory.

      1. usmanali81 profile image60
        usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Dear,

        Taliban is the political game plan of Zionist Jews, Zionist Christians, Zionist Hindus and Zionist Muslims to gain full control of the most important parts of the world, to sweep away the hurdles for the awaited Antichrist by Freemasons, New Conservatives and Zionists.

        Talibans are mercenaries just like the Tamil Tigers taking money, food and weapons from their Zionist God Fathers just for promoting chaos, killing of innocents and dome the the whole territories with evil clouds, this same thing was also prophecized by Prophet Muhammd (peace be upon him) as a sign of the arrival of Antichrist-Dajjal. Talibans have got no businesses, no bank balances, no jobs, they are getting their stuff from Zionists and their agents. Even when some Talibans were caught dead by Pakistan Army or Tribal Elders, they were found un circumcised bearing enough evidence for these people to be mercenaries bought from different locations of the world like Russia, India, Arab, Pakistan etc., AMAZING HA, for conformation have a look at some of those videos on YouTube (if they are not banned). Circumcision is compulsory in ISLAM.

  44. accofranco profile image77
    accofrancoposted 7 years ago

    I believe you guys know the truth anyway. I don't think i am generalizing here, Dieogo Gacia,Guantemala Bay,the secret prison,Sadam Killing,freeing of an official who leaked top govt. (FBI) secret with presidential power,introduction of armed millitary into Saudi,waging war that UN and IAEA said no to,recruiting soldiers in almost all nations,the mushroom bomb in Jap.,etc are these things lies or initiated by me?Aren't they truth?What about the rice field war in Vietnam? Now who can tell me,what initiated terrorism?I am an outspoken young man please, stop using your influence to intimidate me here,i am not lying,if i am,then Press tv,Aljazeera,EuroNEWS,CNN etc are all generalizing or lying too!

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeh the press will say whatever sells. Some of what you say may be really true, and I think America has made some huge foreign policy mistakes and you list several that were deplorable, however I think you may have missed reading about the number of times America has jumped in to help others when in trouble. America may make mistakes, but the heart of America is it's good people, and Americans are doers who help many in the world every day.

      1. usmanali81 profile image60
        usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        The Freemasons like Bush and Obama only help the Honorary Masons working as heads of states, of several countries.

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Sorry I see no solid evidence of this.

          1. usmanali81 profile image60
            usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Look for Bush flashing the Horned Owl symbol with his right hand in different recoreded occasions, it is Satanic. Take note of the looks on his face too.

            1. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You offer this as proof? Satanic? I did not like GWBush at all, but that is just ridiculous!

              1. usmanali81 profile image60
                usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                What kind of proof do you want??? horns on his head or a tail from his back ???

                1. earnestshub profile image89
                  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  No just a bit of common sense. Bush's administration I believe did a lot of very bad things, but they were typical of the thinking of the time, and although wrong, required no conspiracy.

                  1. usmanali81 profile image60
                    usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    According to you and Bush these are conspiracies but actually these are open secrets smile

  45. nms profile image61
    nmsposted 7 years ago

    its bloody pakisthan......... :X Always these bloody guys create some problem to my country... dont know what makes them so happy by disturbing and terrorizing us!

  46. countrywomen profile image60
    countrywomenposted 7 years ago

    Accofranco- What US has done negative in the world everybody knows but whenever there is a natural calamity anywhere in the world it is the US which is one of the first countries to provide relief and aid. Besides that mostly whenever US kills innocent civilians (sometimes those they fight even strategically place themselves within the civilian quarters) they tend to conduct inquiries and suspend those who are responsible. Have you ever noticed the other side whom they are fighting ever do that? Some of there news channels only try to selectively chose what sound bytes to propagate to there folks so that they get more recruits for there cause. US news agencies are one of the most active in the world and there is no state sponsored filtering/censoring of information(in US) like some of the dictator/communist countries have.

    Anyway the point LG raised earlier seemed to be that you justified Hitlers holocaust. In recent days there have been public denials by a certain Catholic priest and also by Iranian leader hence it seems to be a travesty to deny or belittle that such a sad massive tragedy like holocaust ever happened/justified. Have a good day. smile

    PS: I feel protective towards you and like an elder sister took that liberty.

  47. Lisa HW profile image83
    Lisa HWposted 7 years ago

    countrywomen, I think you're a little too complacent about anti-semitic remarks of a "young, impressionable, guy".  Being "impressionable" (young, old, or whatever else) is not "just some harmless thing" that deserves a pass.  Why should the HubPages forum offer an audience for this kind of stuff?

    I suspect if I wrote on here, "Because some of you are from Canada I want to tell the world that you are evil and out to take over the world," it wouldn't sit very well.  Some people would say it's good to see how some people think.  I don't happen to be Jewish, but I can imagine how sickening it must be for anyone who is (not to mention for anyone who isn't and just finds is ignorant, malicious, and sickening).  60 years after Hitler we still have freaks wanting to kill people at the Holocaust Museum.   If someone is so "impressionable" then maybe a few normal people ought to try to make a more positive impression on them, instead of letting it all slide and writing it off as "young and impressionable".

    And while I'm at it, I'm getting pretty sick of people who are on this site, trying to make American money from it, and then loading up the forums with hate speech about America as well.  I, personally, would not put my writing on, or otherwise do business with, any site from a country I don't think much of.  Because there is free speech in the US, and money to be earned from it, Americans have to politely listen to, and read, hate speech against us from all directions.  Maybe that's why so many non-Jewish Americans have such empathy for Jewish people. 

    I thought it was awful when a certain (and now infamous) former Hubber wrote a post, "What do you think of Accofranco?"  I also thought it was horrible when someone else wrote a whole big thing accusing someone reputable of plagiarism, and trying to get a whole "gang-up" mentality against this person.  Well this crap against Jewish people and against American people is no different from that, and I'm sick of it.  If people from other countries don't like Americans they should get off HubPages, because it's an American site.  Freedom of speech is guaranteed to Americans under The Constitution.  No private, American, site has to guarantee the same thing to non-Americans.

    As long as non-Americans are on this American site, they ought to develop some manners and keep their lousy (and often ignorant and completely whacked out) hate speech about Americans, Jewish people and any other group to themselves or at least their own Hubs (which the rest of us can vote down).  Civilized political debate is one thing, but hate speech against whole groups of people is another.  I have a few choice thoughts about a few countries and groups myself, but I have never once made a rude remark because I know that people are individuals and don't deserve to have who/what they are insulted.  In the meantime, a huge number of Americans on this America site must do what I do - sit by and politely read one insulting verbal attack and lie after another.  Every time I come home I go by my town's September 11 Memorial, with the bronze pictures of two locals who were killed.  I don't have a lot of patience and understanding for "young, impressionable, guys".  (I just had to say my piece before permanently leaving the Politics forum, which, as I have with the religion forum, I usually avoid.)

  48. accofranco profile image77
    accofrancoposted 7 years ago

    I think LG always misunderstands me, and she derives joy ranting at me but i respect her still,I was never in support of Hitler's act or holocaust, it was a brutal act, i just used it as an instance though. @Earnesthub,i respect you alot, yes i also respect USA for their kind heart. CW,i love your way and manner always,you deserve a JP crown. USA does good always and do bad too. They and Britain made Biafra my segmented region not to stand, and still after 40 years of freedom fight in the Nigerian civil war,they insist we should not go and be independent but they want to segment Taiwan from China, they segmented USSR why not ours?

  49. countrywomen profile image60
    countrywomenposted 7 years ago

    Lisa- My younger brother also gets sometimes very passionate and from an emotional point of view I try to understand them. Having said that I don't know how else I should tell someone not to have such feelings against US or any other countries. People in different countries tend to receive news from different sources besides being influenced by there local peer group or family. I guess I try to give benefit of doubt to some folks who don't have adequate exposure. I regret if my speaking in defense of him or saying anything in general has hurt yours(or others feelings) since that wasn't my intention at all. Have a good day. smile

    1. Lisa HW profile image83
      Lisa HWposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      countrywomen, (I know I said I was leaving the Politics forum, but I saw the comment and wanted to respond.   smile  )

      Nothing anyone says hurts me.  It bugs the heck out of me.  More importantly, though, I think people need to speak up whenever this stuff shows up in "low places".  It's too late when some ideas get spread to too many people, to the point where they start to impact the world.   I know that the world is full of people getting bad or incomplete information, and I understand that people are going to have misguided beliefs.  That's why I think it's time people started making some effort to stand up to those misguided beliefs (and, who knows, maybe actually get some truth to these people).  Not that every misguided little person from whatever country is ever going to gain any power in this world; but whoever ran into Hitler and heard his whacked out views should have sat him on bottom long before he ever got into power.  Instead, a whole lot of "impressionable" people listened to him and followed him.  Others were too complacent for too long.

      Misguided people who operate on ignorance and lies have a way of seeking out like-minded people and clumping together in little groups.  Everyone else "understands" and "overlooks" because nobody wants to say anything mean or hurt these people's feelings.  When it comes to hate speech I don't think that works very well.   Being polite and nice and "verbally civilized" only works with other polite and nice and "verbally civilized" people, even if opinions are different.  I understand cultural differences and youth, and I know that it is by nothing more than accident of birth that I was born where I was.  It happens, though, that I was also born not all that long after World War II, and that I was raised hearing about how important it is not to tolerate grossly misguided hate speech.  As I wind up this post, I'm listening to the news story about the shooting at the Holocaust Museum, and someone remarked, "We must remain vigilant against hate....".   (They were referring to murderous freak's website.)  That's true.

  50. accofranco profile image77
    accofrancoposted 7 years ago

    I don't hate USA either,i hate politicians and their evil ways, i always refrain my dad when he was in political power, he does some silly things then, and i always speak out. May be you guys don't know me too well, how i wish you watched my live interview at our local tv,and i hope to be interviewed on an international tv one day, i will invite you guys.I love USA but i hate the things most of their politicians do, i lost an extended family member in 9/11 issue, i am never an evil supporter, but i hate injustice.

 
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