I heard this today on the radio. This is truly disgusting to me. A general who has volunteered his entire life to the country compared to a ignorant politician whom has volunteered nothing but ignorance.
Oh I can relate ,not as Senator ( no shit sherlock) lol but as a non-american living in South Carolina . Everytime someone says Ma'am I just melt , its so lovely and sweet! yes respectful (even girls in a store will say it) Its courteous and doesnt make ladies feel old here.
cos most of the time, men are men and dont feel the need to prove anything. Whereas women who attain a certain political height tends to feel the need to usurp her authority over male subordinates. They don't wanna feel like wuchmacallit, gender discriminated.
"Sir" doesn't have the connotations that "ma'am" has.
Many women are annoyed by that word because it makes them feel older. You wouldn't call a 20-year-old woman "ma'am" but you might call a 20-year-old man "sir". Personally, it doesn't bother me all that much if someone calls me "ma'am"
Actually, I think both of them should have been referred to as Senator.
When in the military, we called every officer "sir" or "mam". If we would have addressed an officer by title, "captain", this would have been huge disrespect and they would look at us like we are fkn crazy then probably had us disciplined to make a point.
hmm..kinda agree with you there ,however women have had to fight hard for their voice and opinions to be taken seriously over the years ,some men sadly , feel threatened when a woman is able to articulate better than he and feel somehow hormones dictate intelligence levels.
On one hand,' whats good for the goose, is good for the gander' ,on the other hand, dont sweat the small stuff.
I'm simply trying to make the point that the General could have been thinking it as disrespectful to call the Senator by title "Senator", so he was trying to be respectful by calling her "mam". Then she made the arrogant comment to him. If you listen to her tone, her arrogance shines through her voice.
Actually they do have wings (but are flightless) We use planes now days ,lol Was in my hub too ,makes them kinda unique ,dont ya think. Kiwibird..brown and feathered bird Kiwifruit..brown n furry and green fruit on the inside.
Taking gender out of the equation and having reverence for her office is the right thing to do when in an official capacity such as a Senate hearing. You wouldn't go in front of a female judge and call her Ma'am, would you? Especially if it were Judge Judy. You would have reverence for her position and call her Your Honor.
Let me clarify. They are on the same team. They are both working for the same goals. They both have as their ultimate goal the safety of American interests and carrying out the policies of the commander-in-chief. They are not adversaries.
The military is actually accountable to the president, not the Congress.
Don't know what country you live in but they are adversaries and they do not have the same goals. They may both have the same intentions, to do good for the coutry but ultimately they have their own agendas to promote.
And yes TK the fact that I have to explain all that really does say a lot...
May be you are right. But calling female Ma'am is military tradition/regulation of very conservative institution. the man just said what he was taught to say-not his fault. And I am sure he would call the Judge -your Honour. And in this particular case her remark was certainly the way of underlining her status she even admitted that"she worked so hard to gain this position".
Agree but he is a Brig. General and I'm sure it wasn't his first time in front of a female member of the Senate. It may just have been a slip of the tongue for him, which will remind him that a person in his position cannot afford slips of the tongue in public or private. Look what happened to that Rep. in SC who made that "joke" on face book about Mrs. Obama.
The problem of gender indication adressings is a bit overinflated and can be even distracting.people are better to be concentrated on good professional performance of their job not gender indications and Titles.
I'm still confused over Ms, Miss, Mrs, Ma'am, lady, woman, your Honor, your Honoress, actor, actress, Chairman, chairlady, chairperson.... So many little verbal traps lying in wait for the unsuspecting but well-intentioned white male...I doubt Boxer would have said anything to a female officer...
I would agree with tk sensei in that the use of Ma'am and Sir are generic terms commonly used by the military when addressing superior officers...I think Ms Boxer understands that yet choose to denigrate this serving officer in public...perhaps there is some underlying animosity related to the general's prior service as Director of the Army Corps of Engineers in Sacramento during the 90's...He would have been responsible for handing out service related contracts at that time in Northern California...
A non-issue. Political grandstanding. And that goes across the party lines (oh, amazing!). Haven't we got enough other things to worry about?
Makes me think of this chef I work with who needs to be called 'Executive Chef' in all the copy I right for him, or he throws a prima donna hissy fit. I tend not to respect PEOPLE like that, ultimately.