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Obama's speech to the children..the text.

  1. jiberish profile image79
    jiberishposted 7 years ago
    1. Army Infantry Mom profile image61
      Army Infantry Momposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Personally, i told my kids to plug their ears up if they start playing that video. For one, I seen the video,.No one has the right to tell my kid's to pledge to Obama. My kids pledge to God and the Alliegance of the flag NOTHING else. I dont care if he did change it, bottom line he had his adgenga and that was to get the kids to pledge to him.BS !! He needs to focus on more important things, like the Wars and getting bread, bullets and band-aids our troops are saying they are out of.

      And oh Tex,...I'm the first in line for fighting any terrorist on my homeland country Semper Fi !!!!

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        A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yes Ma'am! I got your six! Hooah!

      2. SweetiePie profile image84
        SweetiePieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You told your kids to plug their ears?  Really, I am sorry but I think that is over the top.  I feel you have little respect for Obama.  The original lesson plan was cheesy, and that is all.  I am sort of offended that you are implying Obama is a terrorist.  I have tried to think maybe you were open minded to others, but I suppose not.

        1. Army Infantry Mom profile image61
          Army Infantry Momposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I never implied Obama as a terrorist,..I said he needs to not tell my kids to pledge to him.

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          She wasn't talking about Obama being a terrorist she was talking about something else entirely!

    2. jiberish profile image79
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The speech was inspiring!

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      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      hmm that was an interesting speech...I do wonder however, how many kindergartners through 3rd graders are going to understand words like "AIDS", "global economy", "personal responsibility", "google, facebook and twitter".

      as for trying hard to find something to be offended about, I think the President is responsible for people turning a wary eye towards everything he does. he doesn't act very presidential, in my book. he appears to be combative, gossipy, too casual, and even a little sneaky. that "beer summit" was the biggest joke I have ever seen and something beneath the office of the POTS.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        POTS?

        1. nicomp profile image59
          nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          President Of The United States

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
            Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Oh reeeeeeeeeealy?

            And all this time I thought it was POTUS.

            Silly me.

            1. nicomp profile image59
              nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Something else we agree on!

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Yuk Yuk Yuk

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              Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              TOTUS.
              The 'T' stands for teleprompter

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                A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Hey! Thats my line!!

                1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Badmouthing the verbal skills of the only president of the last 8 1/2 years who can pronounce the word "nuclear"?  My My...

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                    A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    He does read well!

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                    Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Yeah, you get too close to Obama and they always drag Bush into it.

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        A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Smart observations, I wish everyone was like you.

    4. qbanmamiof2 profile image59
      qbanmamiof2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      In my opinion, I found the speech to be very well aimed at students to work hard on their own futures and aspire to make a better life of their own.  Everyone knows that in this country what counts is what is in black and white (ink & paper for all of you that quoting racism)  The speech is very inspiring made me want to go back to school, but I am a Cuban and I can't help but wonder what is the real agenda.  Correct me if I am wrong please but why does he have to talk to the students of this nation everyday from now on????  Fidel started the same way, Chavez talks to his country every morning.

      If it is a one time speech, then it was pretty good and I congratulate him for making an effort to talk to the future generation.  Made it very real and tried to use his experiences to make it more real for students to connect to him.

      If it is an everyday thing, then I think that we need to really question who is our elected official and what he is up to.

      Communisim/socialism looks awesome ON PAPER but never works in real life and there will never be a person responsible enough to have that position because in the end everyone gets greedy.
      Look at Russia, still recovering from that economic breakdown. Look at Cuba, in the 1950's it was the most advanced and economically prosperous latin american country, now where is it, in the toilet.
      Look at what chavez is doing to venezuela, look at Honduras, now there is a political stand off on who is the real president.
      Look at china....need I say more

  2. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago
    1. jiberish profile image79
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, it looks like they cleaned it up nicely.

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        'We need every single one of you to develop your talents, skills and intellect so you can help solve our most difficult problems. If you don’t do that – if you quit on school – you’re not just quitting on yourself, you’re quitting on your country. '

        Scary !!

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          pgrundyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Are you being sarcastic? Or are you serious?

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Sarcastic & serious. Both apply.

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            Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            It's gotten even, uh, weirder on here, Pam...

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              pgrundyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              No kidding!

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          Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          hee hee

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    Madame Xposted 7 years ago

    Excellent speech. He can be proud of it. It's a very far cry from the indoctrination he was going to ram down all their throats before we all screamed our heads off.

    1. blue dog profile image80
      blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      maybe next time you'll think before screaming your head off.

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        Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        It's precisely BECAUSE we screamed that it was a good speech at all - Sheesh!

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
          Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You keep believing that... big_smile

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            Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Only because the facts support my view . . .

            1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
              Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              What facts? I have yet to see a shred of evidence that a single word of Obama's speech was changed, let alone as a result of the howling by rednecks and knuckle draggers.

              1. nicomp profile image59
                nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                So much for the Big Tent. Tolerance takes a holiday.

                1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                  Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I repeat, where are the facts?

                  1. nicomp profile image59
                    nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Wouldn't matter. We rednecks and knuckle draggers have nothing to teach you.

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                    Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    READ THE WHOLE THREAD. The rest of us have already discussed this.

            2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
              Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              What facts? I haven't seen any yet.

            3. Eaglekiwi profile image76
              Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Get over yourself lol

        2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
          Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Facts, please. I haven't seen a shred of evidence for this assertion.

      2. rebekahELLE profile image92
        rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I think I'll go back out and enjoy poolside relaxation~~~
        it's appalling that parents are teaching their children to be disrespectful by their whining~

        1. blue dog profile image80
          blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          yes, imagine the next generation...

          1. rebekahELLE profile image92
            rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            o.k., bluedog, one more response, then back to the pool. I've spent the last 14 years teaching, both public and private school settings~~ (recently laid off two days before my vacation) for the most part, teachers are raising a lot of these young children and it's quite sad how lonely and stressed many of them are, as young as 3 yrs.

            Parents really need to stop giving their kids material things and start giving them quality time playing outdoors, taking them to museums,reading all kinds of books, teaching them HOW to think, not WHAT to think. we want our future generation to know how to make intelligent decisions, not biased judgments.

            hey, happy labor day USA.

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              Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              My sentiments exactly. Have a wonderful Labor Day too!

              1. RooBee profile image83
                RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                PS- The 'essays' were never, ever -even for a minute- mandatory. The fact that many anti-Obama folks can't even post a comment about him without adding schoolyard name-calling ("Nobama" or making sure to include his middle name cuz ya'all know wut dat meenz, dat heez a muzzlim!!) speaks volumes.

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  He's a "Muzzlim?"I knew there was something I didn't like about him!

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                    Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    gasp!

                  2. RooBee profile image83
                    RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Dern tootin'! Plus, did you notice how he acts all nice and happy and well-spoken? T-R-O-U-B-L-E!

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                    Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    The attempt is sufficient.

            2. blue dog profile image80
              blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              exactly.  today's schools are required to offer and teachers are required to babysit through before-school programs and after-school programs. this all sandwiched around a full day of children who eventually return home at the end of the day to parent-influenced materialism.

    2. jiberish profile image79
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      All the uproar from the parents caused them to do away with the essays etc.  I agree this speech is very similar to other presidents.

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image70
      Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What do you base that on? Do you have even a shred of evidence? If you do, let's see it.

    4. Ralph Deeds profile image70
      Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What do you base that on? Do you have even a shred of evidence? If you do, let's see it.

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        Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Start at the beginning of the thread.

    5. Ralph Deeds profile image70
      Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If you have any evidence supporting this assertion, let's see it!

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    pgrundyposted 7 years ago

    I just don't get it.

    He's the President, not some child molester.

    1. Jellyrug profile image58
      Jellyrugposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I don't get it either???

      Sounds like Paddy getting off the plane in a foreign country and the first thing he says with a heavy Irish accent is:

      "By the way, who is the Government, because I am against them!!!"

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        Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Man after my own heart smile

    2. FreeFla profile image60
      FreeFlaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The president who wants to socialize our economy and appoints personal non-elected, non-confirmed czars to control every area of our lives.
      His personal lack of a father makes him assume we all need his "guidance". In his efforts to reach young black males he is stepping on the toes of everyone else.

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        Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ridiculous.  The speech was nothing but a good will measure to inspire young people to do well in school.  Quite a few presidents have done the same thing in the past, including Reagan and Bush.

        Your post reeks of Glenn Beckisms.  He's the only one who has used the word 'czar,' as far as I know.  And I won't even ask how he is "stepping on the toes of everyone else."

           
        "The story of America isn't about people who quit when things got tough. It's about people who kept going, who tried harder, who loved their country too much to do anything less than their best,"   --Barack Obama

        Yeah.  Subversive stuff.

  5. Davinagirl3 profile image60
    Davinagirl3posted 7 years ago

    I thought the speech was inspiring.

    1. Vladimir Uhri profile image59
      Vladimir Uhriposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      For now.

  6. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Let's see, people screamed their heads off about a speech they hadn't read.

    Then the text gets published and says nothing about what you imagined and you take credit for it?

    There was going to be an essay about how kids thought they could help the leader of their country which always seems to have gone along with president's speaking to schools.

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      Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yep. It was publicized, written about, talked about, and discussed before he gave the speech. Which of these did you miss?

      Also, it has NEVER gone along with "the president's speech" on what you can do for that "leader", only what you can do for your country.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
        Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        All I saw was some proposed ideas on what might be covered in the speech.

        But, I still see about how to help the President in that he is the head of state of the county not of a specific political party. Again, I ask...don't you have any faith in children?

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          Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          It's not about having faith in children, it's about understanding how manipulative techniques work on the human mind, even if one is aware of them, as it has been proven in clinical studies. School kids wouldn't stand a chance. And you're right, it's not about a specific political party, but about underhanded mental manipulation.

          1. blue dog profile image80
            blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            that's why school children have school teachers.  teachers, get it?

        2. Vladimir Uhri profile image59
          Vladimir Uhriposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          But it is not president duty to put foot into the schools. His duty is to protect us and our Constitution. This is why we voted for president.
          The schools are already socialistic, this is why we have troubles. I do not have any hope for country if socialism in school will continue.

      2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
        Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, he took out the stuff about socialism and summer jobs with Acorn and learning how to make bombs in Chemistry class.

      3. Patrice52 profile image59
        Patrice52posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Sorry, but I don't think the speech was ever published before you were screeming your heads off.  The part that everyone was screeming about was in the work sheet concerning what the children could do to help the president, PRECISELY THE SAME QUESTION that George Bush, Sr., asked the children in 1991.  I think you did accomplish something with all this screeming about indoctrination, conspiracy theories, and communism, and that was to make yourselves look just plain silly.  I think we have a bunch of sore loosers here.  Excuse me, but I couldn't hold this in any longer.

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I don't think its about sore losers, if conservatives didn't see this one being elected then they were blind! That does not mean Obama is at all competent to run this Nation, he has shown an amazing ability to "not get it!" A majority of us do not want government run health care! A majority of us are not happy with the job he is doing! But yet he continues to thumb his nose at us and continue on the road to a one term Presidency, I for one am enjoying the show. You Democrats or Liberals or whatever you may want to get him in line with the actual majority or get used to the minority once again!

          1. Randy Godwin profile image94
            Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I don't know Tex, I never thought George would be re-elected because of the crappy job he was doing but we saw what happened.  (Did you get your limit on mourning dove last Saturday, or did your season open then?)

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I got my limit! But it opened on the first or at least I hope it did I went that day! Heard a lot of shotguns so I must have been good. Bush was a complete Cluster F@#K but I think the option was worse both times!

              1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Perhaps you are right, but the lack of options in every presidential election seems to be the rule rather than the exception.  (Got my limit too!  Thinking of switching to a 20 gauge, my shoulder hurts!)

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I have always hunted with a 20 gauge, tried both 20 was always my preference. What is the limit there ours has changed to 15

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                    Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Same as here 15, I've always used a 12 gauge but will soon switch to a 20.  Great shoot though, non stop shooting until the owner called a halt to save some birds for the next morning.

          2. Patrice52 profile image59
            Patrice52posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            If you hadn't given Obama's name, I would have thought you were talking about Bush.  When his approval rating sank to an all time low, he thumbed his nose at us and went about doing what was in his opinion "best for us".  I'm not too worried about a second term for Obama.  It'll be a long time before people forget the Bush era.

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              As I stated before Bush was a cluster F#$K but make no mistake Obama is just as bad! How could we forget the Bush era liberals bring him up every 5 minutes.

  7. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Then from now on Presidents of the United States should not speak to school children at all, they should never appear in classrooms, and should never even be discussed in school?

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      Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Why are you saying it should be either/or? I already said I thought his speech, in it's final form, was excellent.

    2. Vladimir Uhri profile image59
      Vladimir Uhriposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No.

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        "Vladimir Uhri escaped from communistic Czechoslovakia by swimming across the Adriatic sea from Yugoslavia to Italy. Later he entered free America"

        I have a couple of points to make. Firstly, do you NOW consider Czechoslovakia to be a 'free' country? I've been to prague, seemed pretty free to me.

        And secondly, do you feel that as a non-American native, you have the right to dictate the politics of America? Im not saying that you have to be born in America to have a right to your opinion, but that perhaps you should respect the democratically elected government of the country that gave you a chance and a lifeline? The same people that welcomed you into their communities have voted for Obama to lead their country. You have the right, should you so wish, to return to the Czech Republic should you not be happy with the governance of America.

        Lets get something clear here, I am actually from the UK and live in the UK. I adore multi-culturalism, have friends from all sorts of backgrounds, countries, upbringings. But if I ever hear a non-British (and non-British does not mean non-white before somebody jumps to a conclusion, I live in Yorkshire - I see plenty of that BS) person being overly critical of my country, with I consider to be almost a lack of gratitude for opportunity, then I tell them in no uncertain terms "If you dont like it here, then fuck off home". An extreme example of this would be muslim immigrants pushing for Sharia law and holding placards saying "death to Britain" - In Britain!

        And no I am not racist, you have made the decision to live in America - America will be how it wants to be.

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Is Vlad a US Citizen? If so then you should "F#@K OFF HOME!

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I am home.

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              So is Vlad, <snipped personal attack>!

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                ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You can take my comment however you wish, but I was actually referring to people that hold up placards in London saying 'Death To Britain', as an extreme example. If you had a mini Tehran in Texas, with people waving placards saying 'Death To America' then you would probably be telling people to fuck off too.

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  No that wouldn't be my reaction! Maybe you should grow a pair and do more than whine about it, I would!

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                    ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Like what? Try and get past three rows of riot police protecting the "freedom of speech" of those islamic people?

                    Remember that once they have put their banners away, and have dispersed, there is no chance of identifying them again. Unless you are advocating "growing a pair" and taking it out on the hundreds of thousands of decent islamic people that walk amongst them on the streets?

        2. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You? Talking about respect? Gimme a break! lol

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You dont even have respect for your own county Mischa. At least I can call myself patriotic and proud. And I guess you know what I am talking about.

            Keep on spamming Misha, just keep on spamming....

            1. Misha profile image75
              Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You'll grow up eventually. Or not? Some people never do smile

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                ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Why is this an issue of me growing up? Its more an issue of my just taking a dislike to you, and being honest about that fact. No amount of "growing up" will change that. I guess that disliking a very popular hubber isn't ideal, but thats just the way it is - it will probably lose me friends, but thats fine with me. If you would like me to explain further then thats fine, otherwise - I am sure that you can at least appreciate my honesty.

        3. Vladimir Uhri profile image59
          Vladimir Uhriposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You do not have any idea what are you talking about.

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            So you cant answer my simple question. Do you think that your country of birth is NOW a free country? I dont know if that would be considered the Czech Republic, Croatia or where.... but I have been to both of those countries, and they are fantastic places.

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    Leta Sposted 7 years ago

    Because, as Madame X surely, absolutely knows, tksensei and I are a duo liberal spy plot team designated and dedicated to breaking up serious, serious conservative debate forum topics like this one.

    Seriously. Folks.  Believe it.

    They're out there.

    1. blue dog profile image80
      blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      you and tk?  life never ceases to amaze me...

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        Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Tinfoil hat, bd, tinfoil hat, wink...

        You've entered the twilight zone.

  9. jiberish profile image79
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    OK, here's my 'beef' with Nobama; on every issue from the begining, if the minority doesn't keep him in check he is inclined to stray.   This speech is only this 'inspiring' since the parents got in an uproar.  He would follow a different path if we didn't have him in check...It's tiring trying to keep digging every day about what he's doing and saying.

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      Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes. This is exactly what happened.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
        Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Like I said...you keep believing that...

        1. Davinagirl3 profile image60
          Davinagirl3posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I have said it before... Why is it that, when it comes to publicly berating the president, the conservatives are totally against it... until we get a democrat president?

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            Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I take it on a point-by-point basis. I guess you missed where I said his "speech was excellent".

          2. jiberish profile image79
            jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I guess you were not paying attention when Bush was kept in check. However he wasn't undermining the country as much.

            1. RooBee profile image83
              RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              That one will have me giggling for a week. Thanks. *whew!*

              1. Joelle Burnette profile image83
                Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                ditto

                1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  lollollollol

                2. jiberish profile image79
                  jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Laugh if you want but I guess this would be a good time to bring up a question.   Van Jones was not asked to resign, what does that say about the president and his beliefs?  Jones being just one of many with a very shady background, will still remain as advisor.  Does this not bother anyone?

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                    A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I'm still trying to get through 3 levels of police line to show my anger at Muslim extremists, I don't have time to worry about Obamagod now!

                  2. nicomp profile image59
                    nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Jones escaped his turn in the news cycle by announcing his resignation over a holiday weekend. BHO further eased the pain by saying he was not asked to resign. The President couldn't admit a mistake was made. It all worked out in tidy bundle for the Dems.

            2. Davinagirl3 profile image60
              Davinagirl3posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I am not that conservative, but I live in Texas, so it is inevitable that I have many friends who are conservative.  It seemed to be the popular argument, in the days of Bush, that it was "unpatriotic" to berate the president in public.  I am not pointing fingers, because I believe anyone can say what they want.  It is just ironic to me that many of the same people who wanted to persecute Natalie Maines, are criticizing the president in an international forum. I have really noticed the double standard in my own community.

          3. Vladimir Uhri profile image59
            Vladimir Uhriposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            This is not about "democrat". It is about socialism.

            1. jiberish profile image79
              jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              One thing I have learned in these forums is that you can't just throw out words like 'socialism', it's above some peoples heads.  You have to specifically explain or post a link. smile

              1. Davinagirl3 profile image60
                Davinagirl3posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                The concept of socialism is not "above my head".  I have yet to make assessments about anyone's intelligence.  I don't appreciate anyone making assessments about mine.  I will gladly leave this thread now.  Thanks for the futility!

                1. jiberish profile image79
                  jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Please don't take this personally, it was not directed at you. It was a general post, period.

                2. jiberish profile image79
                  jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Again, let me clarify, unless I use your name specifically, my post are general.  No offense.

    2. Army Infantry Mom profile image61
      Army Infantry Momposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I agree with you,..Nobama pushes it to see how far he can go.

  10. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Should I pick up a tin foil hat? big_smile This was meant for Lita smile

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    pgrundyposted 7 years ago

    Why is it that whenever anyone wants to promote some wingnut idea someone ends up saying it's to 'protect the children'?

    I predict the next hysterical outcry will be that Obama's comin' after all the white wimmin.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That line went over very well in "Blazing Saddles" yikes

    2. jiberish profile image79
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Mr. Obama is half black and half white, so neither blacks or whites can scream racism.

      1. jiberish profile image79
        jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I would be equally upset if He was white as the driven snow.

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      Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      A picture of GW Bush in the classroom during his term as president caused an astounding outraged cry from the left.

      Pot. Kettle. Black.

      And as for your slanderous accusation of racism, please show more respect to those of us on the forums you don't agree with .

      1. blue dog profile image80
        blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        i think the outrage was because the book he was attempting to read was being held upside down.

        1. RooBee profile image83
          RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hey, at least there was no chance of him indoctrinating them with anything. Even five-year-olds know how to hold a book right side up. lol

    4. SweetiePie profile image84
      SweetiePieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The more irrational the argument, the more emotional they make it.  Another lady crying over Obama speaking to her kids, well she wants to play on our emotions.  The deeper issue is some people are so opposed to Obama they will protest anything he does.

      1. ReuVera profile image86
        ReuVeraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Or those who support Obama will blindly accept anything he says. It's a two-side coin. The best thing is not to take anything for granted, but to think critically anything what is cooked for you. One wouldn't eat food prepared from spoiled ingredients even if it looks okay, right?

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          Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Good luck finding that around here . . . .

          1. RooBee profile image83
            RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            As you have asked of others, please don't insult those who disagree by insinuating that everyone here is blindly one-sided. I think that many of us overlap in some of our beliefs, and diverge from one another about others. I most certainly don't take everything the guy says as gospel, that would be lazy and asinine. As would be doing the same w/ Glenn Beck or his ilk. That's why this whole uproar is ridiculous. There's nothing rational about it. Let the kids hear the speech, talk to them about it, and encourage them to think critically about what they heard. There's no partisanship in that. Just makes sense.

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              Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Asking others to think logically is not insulting. An accusation of racism is.

              As I have said previously, I thought his final speech was excellent. Or am I not "allowed" to break out of my "mold" . . .

              1. RooBee profile image83
                RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You are allowed to do and say whatever you like, and I (nor anyone else that I am aware of) never said any different. "Good luck finding that around here.." was a bit insulting, basically a regurgitation of the 'sheep' label. No big deal, just taking part in the conversation. For what its worth, so far I think you seem to consider many factors, and don't seem like you blindly buy into any one line of thinking.

                I certainly never meant to insinuate that I won't allow you to say or think something... Sorry if I somehow made you feel that way! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused004.gif

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                  Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Thank you, I appreciate your candor.

                  When I said "Good luck finding that around here.." I was not referring to anyone being "sheep". I firmly believe that everyone here has decided what they choose to think. I don't find a lot of that thinking logical, based on the facts. If others find that insulting there is nothing I can do about it. For myself, I am delighted when someone can best me on logic. It keeps one sharp.

                  1. RooBee profile image83
                    RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I love that attitude. Brain and (can I say?) balls, to boot! smile
                    As I told Harvey Stelman, we might disagree till the cows come home on IssueX or CandidateY, but if we can civilly and intelligently debate with eachother -then we have found our common ground. I don't mind a good discussion, especially one where good points of logic are brought by both sides.
                    Its like in high-school debate, where you have to argue both sides of an issue just to see how good your argument-building process is. It can be exhilarating!
                    So, thank YOU for your candor. I will refrain from jumping on to a phrase or word and stick to the facts (except w/ tk, he has got me all hot n swoony w. the insults!) lol

              2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this



                What was different in his final speech? Did you actually see an earlier draft of his speech. If so, please tell us what was different. Facts, please.

            2. SweetiePie profile image84
              SweetiePieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I am probably unpopular for doing it, but the majority of what Obama says will always be more logical than the likes of Glenn Beck.  He thinks there is fascist and socialist symbolism in the art around Rockerfeller center.  I do not make any apologies for finding Obama to be on the rational and right side, and so be it if conservatives get mad at me for that.  I have done my research and actually would like Obama to be more liberal on health care.  However, he is a politician and has to compromise more, but as a citizen I am free to speak my mind on these issues smile.

              1. Davinagirl3 profile image60
                Davinagirl3posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                ...and you have done so in a rational way.  You have researched issues on your own, and from what I can tell, have kept an open mind.

                1. SweetiePie profile image84
                  SweetiePieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I try to keep an open mind and I realize as president he has to compromise on key issues.  It sounds like the public option is off the table, and they have toned down the school speech.  However, some are still implying their is something sinister lurking there, so I do not know what to say.  Well they are free to feel that way I suppose.

                  1. jiberish profile image79
                    jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    SP: I agree the speech has been very nicely cleaned up. The sinister aspect is gone.

        2. SweetiePie profile image84
          SweetiePieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I happen to have deeper critical thinking skills then you will ever know.  I cannot help but see you have been biased against Obama for over year per many of your posts here, but do not worry, many share your views.  Also, the analogy about food prepared from spoiled ingredients is just odd.  Obama has not done anything I find questionable in encouraging kids to go to school.  I can assure you I have done my research and I considered Obama to be the best candidate for president.  I am a proud American and I respect Obama, and just because you imply he is some sort of spoiled goods, well that just does not make it so.

          1. ReuVera profile image86
            ReuVeraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I don't intend to offend your ego, I know that you are very well educated and you know your history better tan I do, because I've heard it many times here too. I've said what I've meant, no more. I think that in his speech children look like beforehand non-diligent. That's it.
            Have a nice Labor Day, all! I'm out to the sun now!

          2. Vladimir Uhri profile image59
            Vladimir Uhriposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            If you keep open eyes you will see.

          3. ReuVera profile image86
            ReuVeraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You don't have to read between lines here, no need. Saying about food I actually meant food, no hints to anybody.

    5. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      back in from the pool for some food~~

      ha, to protect the children, but as soon as they get home, they're subject to endless hours of foxnews propaganda stuff infiltrating their young minds. so they go zone out on warcraft and ipods~~~~ and wake up and do it again. no wonder no one knows how to think anymore. there is no attention span for most school age children any longer.

      1. jiberish profile image79
        jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        In defense of Fox News, they are the only media examining the background of say Van Jones.  It's ok, to keep you children protected, but as an adult you should be receptive to facts.

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          Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Facts? Goodness, how does one determine those?

          1. jiberish profile image79
            jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Sometimes you have to do your own research.  For example the media is saying Jones stepped down because of his remarks on Bush, but fail to mention the other videos in his own words that would be detremental to this country.

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              Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, that was my earlier point. You have to look at many sources - and after looking at those other sources, and then hearing similar conclusions from Beck, well it just gets to be too much for some.

              1. jiberish profile image79
                jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                My TV is not stuck on Fox, nor do I limit my reading to forum posts. But there are some who get their info from chat rooms, and blogs, which is limited.  My personal take is that I listen, and research and try to make my own opion.  The sad thing is that there is so much information that sometimes it just makes your head spin.

              2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Just curious, what are your other sources? You sound like you're just overwhelmed with facts! That makes it tough.

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                  Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Unlike you, perhaps?

                  1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                    Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Yes, you are very unlike me.

                2. jiberish profile image79
                  jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I love facts, they are so much more interesting than hearsay.

                  Here are some facts: Hot Air did the breakdown of Obama's speech.  Was it about them?

                  Update II: Hot Air ran the speech through a word frequency counter and found the following results:
                  56 iterations of “I”
                  19 iterations of “school”
                  10 iterations of “education”
                  8 iterations of “responsibility”
                  7 iterations of “country”
                  5 iterations each of “parents”, “teachers”
                  3 iterations of “nation”

                  1. jiberish profile image79
                    jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    And to think that people accused Obama of self-promotion!

        2. SweetiePie profile image84
          SweetiePieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          In question of Fox News, I noticed they were the only ones not covering Obama's live speech to the AFL-CIO.  Fox reports what it likes, and it turns out Beck has it out for Van Jones because he used to work with a group that is trying to pull advertising from the Beck show.  It was the best political move for Van Jones to resign, but Beck seems to have a vested interest in all this, and he just happens to work at Fox.

  12. ReuVera profile image86
    ReuVeraposted 7 years ago

    It’s a very sneaky speech…..   manipulative.  Negative in its back ground, I would say.  But at first it looks like it’s an  okay speech, President addressing schoolchildren on their first day of school, nice step on the first glance, why not, President is thinking about next generation, he cares about them….
    For me it looked like all the kids are thought of like losers obviously, beforehand. As if from the very beginning they are expected to miss their classes, not to invest their best into study, not to listen to their teachers, etc.  Is he giving ideas to the non-diligent kids?
    I’m lucky that my son is out of secondary school already….
    I myself went through soooo many addressing speeches in my time….. I was lucky that my brain works in that self-protecting way- it shuts to any sense in the speech, I listen but I don’t hear. I make my own decisions, I don’t listen to orators.

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      Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Very well put. You make points I had not considered previously.

    2. SweetiePie profile image84
      SweetiePieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Reuvera,

      I think you are speaking to your own prejudice about Obama.  I know you have lived outside of the US, so I am not sure how familar you are with speeches that presidents give to their students.  In 1991 Bush sr also gave a back to school speech to kids, and some commentators have commented on why other presidents have not done this since. 

      Also, listening to AFL-CIO speech today I was impressed more than ever with Obama's logic, and his opposition is looking pretty negative to me.  If you are so opposed to the speech do not listen, but you are the ones missing out.

      1. ReuVera profile image86
        ReuVeraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        SweetiePie,
        Honestly, I am NOT prejudiced against Obama. "Back to school speech" is fine, no problem. The problem is not WHO delivers a speech, but WHAT and HOW is said in the speech.

    3. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      the best thing to do, if not you lose your step, and fall out of reality

  13. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/446446539_78e731d723.jpg

    1. RooBee profile image83
      RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      An excellent read, showcasing precisely why Americans need to be aware that behind the flashy smile and calculated demeanor, evil lurks. Don't be bullied by those who call you paranoid, or who say you are over-reacting. What happened to the America where we stood up for what we believed in? I'll tell you, that America is rapidly disappearing on Barack HUSSEIN Obama's watch, people. Sound the alarm and lock up your wives, playa in da House and we should all be very afraid.

      lol

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
        Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ha! Not even gramatically correct!

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  14. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    Being brainwashed is a terrible thing !!

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    Madame Xposted 7 years ago

    Oh brother . . .

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      brutha'

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        Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        sorry . . .

      2. RooBee profile image83
        RooBeeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing001.gif

  16. jiberish profile image79
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    Again, my question is this: If Obama is 1/2 black and 1/2 white how can either side be called racist?

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      Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      They can't - it's just the argument they pull out when they have nothing else. It's also childish.

      Besides, he's not 50-50. He's only 6% black, even though that's what he calls himself in the US. He's mostly Arab and Caucasian.

    2. Joelle Burnette profile image83
      Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Didn't you watch the republican convention?

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    ryankettposted 7 years ago

    Can I just say, what a fantastically honest and inspiring speech, and how great of Obama to invest his time and effort into the education system.

    Perhaps I could offer a solution to those Obama bashers. As you may be aware, the UK and USA have some very close and traditional trade links. Would you perhaps be willing to trade Gordon Brown with Barrack Obama?

    He is white, passionless, dumb, and slightly ugly. Seems to fulfill republican criteria perfectly. Whilst about 80% of Brits would love to have somebody like Obama in charge of our country.

    Deal?

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ask the Queen first big_smile

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Its not the Queens place to decide, she is just a discrete global celebrity. Unfortunately the Queen is not part of the deal, our country breaks a profit on her wink A great marketing ploy, we have the Queen and you have, errrmm..... Disneyworld lol

        Actually, maybe we could swap the Royal family for Disneyworld? Would be pretty cool....

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol I think the Queen is laughing at you !

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            She can laugh at all she wants, she is a non-entity now. Running out of money too apparently, put all of her money in the stock market.... big_smile

            She still owns the largest diamond ever found though, and at least another £200m worth of jewellery, about 4 country estates, and pays no tax whatsoever.

            My heart bleeds for her!

            1. nicomp profile image59
              nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              The Queen hasn't been the same since Freddy Mercury died.

              1. rebekahELLE profile image92
                rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I absolutely adore people as yourself~~ what a great line~~

    2. Joelle Burnette profile image83
      Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      We already had him...his name was G.W. Bush. Never want to see the likes of him again.

  18. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Thanks for the offer, but I'll keep Disney World.

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I don't blame you. I suspect that you would rather like to keep Obama too, such a shame.

      I guess that we will just have to keep buying coffee from you, and you can keep buying tea from us lol

      1. Colebabie profile image61
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Seems fair smile

  19. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

    Oy!

  20. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    OMG, Nicomp! I am ROFLMAO.
    "The Queen hasn't been the same since Freddie Mercury died."
    That gets my vote for best line of the week. Or at least day.
    Well, maybe of the hour.
    How can we have a serious discussion with wit like that lurking about??? :lol :lol :lol

    1. nicomp profile image59
      nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks! I really miss Freddy. Don't you?

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Freddy was more of a Queen that 'The Queen'....

        1. Colebabie profile image61
          Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I miss Freddie. I was four when he died. I remember my mom playing Queen all day when it happened.

        2. nicomp profile image59
          nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Freddy was a queen who was The Queen of Queen.

  21. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    I must say I also was somewhat disappointed after reading the text of the President's speech.
    I appreciate that it is difficult to write a speech to as diverse an audience as kindergarten through 12th grade.
    Still, I felt he aimed a bit too high in his word choices -- quite a few polysyllable ones (notwithstanding the proponderance of the mentions of "I" as so many alert readers have pointed out).

    Although his speech scored extremely well in passive sentences (only 2% -- quite excellent for an "inspirational" speech aimed at the call to action "STAY IN SCHOOL") as well as Flesch reading ease (a score of 71.4 is quite readable), I would have liked to see a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level score a little bit lower. His speech is 7.2 which means it actually went over the head of all of the elementary school students (except the GATE students).

    All in all, he probably would have done better to at least break the ice with finishing "My Pet Goat" as suggested by Pam Grundy big_smile

  22. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    Yes, I do miss Freddie Mercury. We keep Queen's Greatest Hits (two CDs) in the car for long trips. Nothing like the boys.
    Although I love Paul Rodgers' voice, I just can't imagine him as the lead singer for Queen.
    There is/was only one Freddie.
    What a set of pipes on that man!

    1. nicomp profile image59
      nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I never got into Paul Rodgers. The guy has an awesome pedigree but his voice does nothing for me.

      Robert Plant was the ultimate rock voice. I know he's not dead.

  23. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    different way meaning violence?

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No! I would throw raspberry berets and chocolate cake at them!

  24. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    What's this about Bush not undermining the country?
    Maybe I am getting two sub-threads confused.
    Bush did not wave a placard in the streets of Britain. Oh, but perhaps he would have if he had not been kept in "check" (by who, Cheney???).

    I guess it comes down to how one defines "undermining."

  25. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/JesusOMG/Music/forever.jpg

  26. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    What? Are you saying Freddie Mercury was... gay? Shocking! Slanderous!

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
      Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Say it isn't so! Next he'll be saying Liberace was too.

      1. nicomp profile image59
        nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I am also suspicious of Paul Lynde and Robert Reed.

    2. nicomp profile image59
      nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      ummm.... yes. I think he was a Tory too.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
        Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Well, no one is perfect smile

  27. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    A Texan, it appears you are getting your countries confused.
    We're talking about crowd control in BRITAIN.
    Berets and cake -- those are FRENCH (hopefully I don't have to spell out the cake reference for you).

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      My bad, I guess euphemisms are not my forte!

  28. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    That's not very nice to say, Nicomp big_smile
    Just because someone sometimes wears torreador pants does not make them a full-blown Tory.

    1. nicomp profile image59
      nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL. Well done.

  29. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    I think one of the Darrens in Bewitched was also. I am not sure if it was Dick Sargent or Dick York and would hate to cast aspersions on anyone:-).

    1. nicomp profile image59
      nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, let us be kind to former sitcom stars. They endured so much in order that we might be entertained.

    2. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Dick Sargent. And Mr. Brady smile

  30. jiberish profile image79
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    I want to know how to post a picture into the forums....sad

    1. nicomp profile image59
      nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No, you don't. I'm tired of scrolling 5 screens down to get through the same picture in 5 straight quoted messages.

      wink

      1. jiberish profile image79
        jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Please, I promise not to abuse the system.

  31. Joelle Burnette profile image83
    Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago

    I'm so glad the conservatives in the room have stopped pouncing on the president's benign speech and have switched to the topic they're more comfortable--remembering gay stars. It would appear you had to take that extra Xanax for nothing. It's so scary to have the most powerful man in he world tell kids to work hard in school, no matter the obstacles they face, to become responsible, intelligent citizens.

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    A Texanposted 7 years ago

    By the way, I am prepared to die to keep my Country from being overrun by Islamic terrorists!

    1. Joelle Burnette profile image83
      Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If you hadn't noticed, there are more pressing issues facing our country.

      1. nicomp profile image59
        nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        There are other groups that are crashing planes into our buildings?

        And bombing British tubes?

        And African Embassies?

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          ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          In fairness, although that was tragic (I shed a tear whilst watching the second tower going, and I shared your pain). There is not a country on this planet that has not experienced terrorism. Do you know how many terror attacks their have been since 09/11? Dozens, maybe even hundreds. It may have been a new thing to the US, but terrorism is no new thing to the UK. It has long existed.

          1. nicomp profile image59
            nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            So? It's still a pressing problem twas all I wanted to say. No one implied that we were somehow special. Cowardly attacks on subways are equally tragic, no doubt.

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              ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I am in no way disagreeing with the need to fight Islamic extremism, and I believe that fighting in Afghanistan is essentially fighting that at the core. All cowardly attacks indeed, and something which must be erradicated.

              I am however disagreeing with ATexan's apparent suggestion that I should kill every muslim in the UK and that we should Nuke every innocent man, woman and child in Afghanistan.

          2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
            Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Dick Cheney has bragged that Bush policies have prevented another terrorist attack since 9-11 ignoring the fact that several targets hit since 0-11have been hotels and banks in the Middle East, India and elsewhere owned by American companies. Aguably, the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld policies have increased terrorism around the world, not diminished it.

        2. Joelle Burnette profile image83
          Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I realize you've been TOLD to fear terrorists around every corner, but had you been paying attention to what's happening in our country/world you may have noticed there are too many other issues pressing down on families everywhere.

          1. nicomp profile image59
            nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            All in all, I'd rather be broke and unemployed than dead.

            1. Joelle Burnette profile image83
              Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Glad Bush sold you that story. Is there a terrorist at your door right now?

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          ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Which you have now acknowledged through use of the 'edit' button smile

          Add Madrid to that, several attempts in Paris, I think Bali too....

          1. nicomp profile image59
            nicompposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I need to stop and think before I "Submit" smile

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You have made that pretty clear, but you havent explained how. Im not sure how old you are, but thats an easy thing to say whilst your countrymen are fighting and dying in afghanistan and you are sitting in front of your laptop. Keyboard warrior if ever I did see one.

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        A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Keyboard warrior? Son I have been in conflicts everywhere from Grenada to Kuwait city and some that are still classified! I have met many an enemy and dispatched them with extreme prejudice! As a matter of fact when this current dust up came about I was almost called back due to a certain skill I posses, but a bad heart stopped them from bringing me back! Keyboard warrior? I would rather be that than a coward!

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          ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And I would rather be a coward than a pro-nuclear pyscho. End of our conversation.

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            A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            OK Rotten tooth!

  33. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    I'll tell you if you promise not to post that picture you linked to smile

    1. jiberish profile image79
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      how do you know? LOL

  34. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    "A tactical nuclear weapon (or TNW) refers to a nuclear weapon which is designed to be used on a battlefield in military situations. This is as opposed to strategic nuclear weapons which are designed to threaten large populations, to damage the enemy's ability to wage war, or for general deterrence. No tactical nuclear weapon has ever been used in an actual conflict. They were a large part of the peak nuclear weapons stockpile levels during the Cold War."

  35. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Everyone just take a deep breath... now let it out... feel better? No? Damn.

  36. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    you post [ img ]image link[ /img ] without the spaces

    1. jiberish profile image79
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      http://img96.exs.cx/img96/1746/funny20head7hw.jpg

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
        Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Nuclear fallout?

    2. jiberish profile image79
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      http://img96.exs.cx/img96/1746/funny20head7hw.jpg

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    pgrundyposted 7 years ago

    Hate: It's the crack cocaine of internet forums. smile

  38. jiberish profile image79
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    yippee....thank you

  39. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Boy, boys, we don't care who has the biggest dick...

    1. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      speak for yourself! smile

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        A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thats my kinda woman!

        1. Colebabie profile image61
          Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Well I doubt that.

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            A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You're probably right

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              jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I miss Sweetie pie....she would set you both straight.

  40. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    How do you explain Austin? smile

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I can't! The Peoples Republic of Austin is a whole other topic.

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        Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        It's the one place in Texas I could see myself living smile

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Then you know very little of Texas, much nicer places just 20 miles in any direction. If its the politics then it probably is the only place you would want to live, unless you like your freedoms, those progressives certainly don't!

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          Davinagirl3posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          The views of a lot of Texans have NOT been represented in the current thread.  I was born and raised in Texas and I was taught a little thing called courtesy and respect.  We're not all like Yosemite Sam...

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            jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Davinagirl3.....It's good to see you back.

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            A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Just most of us, Daisy Duke!

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              Davinagirl3posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Daisy Duke?  Alright, I can deal with that.  She had a great ass.

  41. EYEAM4ANARCHY profile image93
    EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 7 years ago

    I find it shocking that politicians would think to use a system conceived and designed to indoctrinate children in order to try and indoctrinate children.

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      Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol

  42. jiberish profile image79
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    I guess my family were cowards, leaving from communism.

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      He asked what I would do if Texas was the "Little Tehran" that England is becoming! He said he was a Patriot but would not risk prison to save his Country, I am not saying anything about those that had to flee a communist country Jiberish and you know that!

      1. jiberish profile image79
        jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I was trying to be funny in the absence of Sweetiepie.

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        If you mean, will I attack muslims because they might be extremists........... behaviour like that would be destroying my country more than a few twats waving "death to britain" banners.

        1. jiberish profile image79
          jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ryan, I've been reading, even if I haven't answered.  You are in a difficult situation, thereis not much you can do to help your country.  There is no way to stand up and fight against what's happening there.   It's slowly happening here too.

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            ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Its difficult to fight, if Atexan really knew that much about the military then he would know that the Taliban in Afghanistan are an invisible enemy. Its much the same in the UK. Over 1 million Muslims, a handful of extremists. We have shut down mosques which preach hatred, and it only serves to push it further underground. You could line up 50 muslims against a wall, how do you know which one is extremist? MI5 and MI6 are doing a pretty good job at intercepting planned attacks, they arrest people regularly, and have without a doubt already saved many lives (and indeed, they share intelligience with the US). Atexan is suggesting that I become a vigilante and attack these invisible extremists, whilst I prefer to put my trust in those with the 'license to kill' lol

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Brave man!

  43. Joelle Burnette profile image83
    Joelle Burnetteposted 7 years ago

    gotta run to take my kids to play miniature golf for the last time since, according to right wingers, the sky is going to fall and anarchy will rule after the president...oh it's so scary to say...TALKS to them. ;-)

  44. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    Ryankett,
    I'm sure you've heard the slogan, "Don't mess with Texas."
    The big surprise is, it wasn't written by Texans big_smile.

  45. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    No disrespect intended to you, Davina girl.
    I was born in El Paso myself.

  46. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    I have what I think is a great idea!
    Since the US, expecially border statest like Texas, seem to have such a fabulous system for controlling illegal immigration, perhaps we can share this highly effective system with Ryankett and the Brits.
    It's oh, so easy to look at a "race" of people and spot the "rotten apples" in the bunch, isn't it?
    Get real.

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If they are carrying signs that say "Death to Texas" you can certainly spot them, thats what Ryan said they were doing in Britain. Should you just ignore those who want to kill you? They haven't gone away yet, and who gives a crap where Don't mess with Texas came from, the car wasn;t invented here but we drive them!

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        ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You just do not make any sense whatsoever. Are you saying that you would shoot your way through three lines of your countries policemen, who are acting on orders, to attack people waving banners? Because using guns is the only way you could do it. And that makes you 'patriotic' and I am the 'coward'. Freak.

  47. James S. Thornton profile image60
    James S. Thorntonposted 7 years ago

    Thank god he had the balls to go after the repuglicans, saying they never have a solution to any problem.

    Kerry never had the balls to do that. All he had to do was put the repug's ideas in plain daylight.

    He didn't do that and let bush steal the election once again.

    Imagine how different life could've been today if only Kerry had grown a spine when he needed to.

    1. jiberish profile image79
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Sheesh!

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Awwwww man, its 2009 get over it!

      1. James S. Thornton profile image60
        James S. Thorntonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You're right, it doesn't matter.

        It's only the world's fate we're talking about here.

        Taking the world's fate in consideration kinda makes you want to vote for the least evil party (dems), albeit a spineless one.

  48. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    And even if someone is waving a "Death to Texas" placard you do not have the legal right in this country to shoot them.
    Much as you might wish this was the wild wild west or the days of the American Revolution, it IS 2009 - as you pointed out below.

    People waving "Death to Texas" placards -- or whatever placards they want -- have a guaranteed right to free speech.
    If they get out of line, we have paid enforcers in the form of police and national guard to deal with them.

    Are you really saying you would go out there and take on an angry mob of protestors single-handedly? In your own country? Hate to tell you, but the only one that would hurt would be YOU. Then again, you might really enjoy the milieu in jail. Lots of people like you.

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Its not running headlong into a mob I am talking about, not everything is a Rambo or Chuck Norris movie! I am Talking about extremists that are here to kill us and make no mistake they are here no matter what your Obamagod tells you! Let me worry about what I would do and you hide under the covers and let Government protect you, You do know its people like me that Government calls when they need the bad guys gone don't you? They don't call cowards to do the things that need to be done! Get out more quit relying on what you think you know about the world and actually see it!

  49. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago
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      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      War, w..., what is it good for?

      1. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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          jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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            jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks Tantrum....smile now I have that song in my head...

            1. jiberish profile image79
              jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              TEX posted:

              Its good for getting rid of tyrants and wannabe tyrants! Sorry none of you understand that we don't play chess to settle our disputes, war is an ugly thing but sometimes necessary!
               
              Tex, I hear where you're comming from.  But before you can have a war, it's usually proceeded by a revolution.  It's hard to imagine having to stand up for something as large as  the terrorist are, without a huge number of people behind you.  I think Ryan is saying he feels like he cannot stand up alone.

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                A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I know exactly what he is saying and I have called him what he is for saying it!

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                  ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  And I am happy being called a coward by you if you feel that it is justified, you are entitled to your opinion. I know that most people would probably call me wise, or sane.

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        A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Its good for getting rid of tyrants and wannabe tyrants! Sorry none of you understand that we don't play chess to settle our disputes, war is an ugly thing but sometimes necessary!

  50. jiberish profile image79
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    I wanted to repost this, as a talking point.:
    Update II: Hot Air ran the speech through a word frequency counter and found the following results:
    56 iterations of “I”
    19 iterations of “school”
    10 iterations of “education”
    8 iterations of “responsibility”
    7 iterations of “country”
    5 iterations each of “parents”, “teachers”
    3 iterations of “nation”

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      ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Jibberish,

      I am fully supportive of taking this thread back on track, so would be very grateful if you could clarify something.

      There is an issue with some people of his use of 'I'.... can you explain why this is an issue?

      If he was to use the word 'we' more, as in talking about a united country, and keeping his personal story to a minimum, would this be more acceptable to you?

      Personally I feel that he was trying to use his own success story as a motivator, but thats nothing more than many everyday people do. His speech actually sounds pretty patriotic? And leans towards America a lot?

      Im not saying that your wrong, and they are your kids not ours, so I suppose I dont really have too much place debating - but just curious at to what your primary concern(s) are?

      Thanks,

      Ry. smile

      1. jiberish profile image79
        jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I (smile) don't have a problem with his use of I especially in this speech.  It is a story of life and how he overcame whatever to be where he is.  'You' could have been used more.

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          ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Oh.... I see, cool wink

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