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Is support for Israel good for US relations in the World?

  1. rhamson profile image77
    rhamsonposted 7 years ago

    After 60 years of unbridled support for Israel is it time to turn them loose and let them stand on their own?  What affect could it have with our relations to the rest of the world?

  2. egiv profile image63
    egivposted 7 years ago

    It's bad for relations with Arab countries, but good for overall United States strategy. I think Obama is doing well to keep them in check right now, as they have had too much power and influence in the government since '48. However, "turning them loose" will never happen, and I would not support it.

  3. Pr0metheus profile image61
    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago

    They have nukes... They hate the rest of the region they're in.  I hope to god we don't "let them loose".

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You're smart

      1. rhamson profile image77
        rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        If the threat of Israel having nukes neutralizes the issue of continuing to support them what about Pakistan and India.  These are two very volatile regions with less common sense than most other nuke holding nations.  Israel is in the same detente situation most everyone else is in.  If Israel nukes anybody in the region then they will have to deal with the fall out both politically and physically.

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I was actually being sarcastic!

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That was amazingly intelligent! Way to go!

      3. Pr0metheus profile image61
        Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        And you're a douche.

        Practice safe sex, and go f*** yourself.

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You are so well educated, how did that Florida recount happen again? Gore won and Bush asked for a recount? You're smart!

          1. ledefensetech profile image69
            ledefensetechposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You won, he's down to personal insults now.  Wave bye, bye to the troll.

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I won just by being me

              1. ledefensetech profile image69
                ledefensetechposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                That's usually how it'd done.

          2. Pr0metheus profile image61
            Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry, the Florida supreme court asked for it.  Why are you bringing other thread's shit here?  You're just like the rest of the conservative nutbags.

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You're smart

              1. Pr0metheus profile image61
                Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I know.

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  The Democrat Supreme Court asked for a recount on behalf of Bush? Really? Care to clarify?

                  1. Pr0metheus profile image61
                    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Did I say that?  I only remember saying the supreme court asked for the recount, not Bush.

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Ok winner how old are you? I only ask because you cuss like a teenager.

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          sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Can I get some of that action?

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            A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Go for it

          2. Pr0metheus profile image61
            Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Apparently this thread just degenerated into a conservative circle jerk.

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              sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Don't you like us?

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                A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I think he ran away to get a clue

              2. Pr0metheus profile image61
                Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Only when you guys are having a circle jerk.  I dropped one response with an f bomb to a guy who's proven himself to be a Texan hick.  I'm way past my teenage years.

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  This "hick" is way smarter than you can ever hope to be!

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  4. Dark knight rides profile image66
    Dark knight ridesposted 7 years ago

    I don't think at this point it hurts the US to support them. Relations are getting strained, and I think the US needs to apply a little more pressure to get Israel to really work on a solution to the Palestinian issue. As far as "they hate the rest of the region", I don't believe that's true, Israel has made overtures for peace, and each time they agree to a cease fire, its the Palestinians who end up breaking it. The Arab nations need to realize that the Israeli's are there to stay and the US must be able to support that. If we were to turn out backs on them, I think that would hurt the worlds view of the US more than our support.

    1. rhamson profile image77
      rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The role the US has been playing in the Middle East has been a costly and never ending story.  The Israelies seem predisposed to not settle the disputes.  The shaky trusses that have been set up in the region are constantly put to the test by both sides.  When there is no conflict there are expansion settlements created. When there is conflict it is brought to the attention of the world because of the violence.  What can be done to stop this and should we continue to have a role in it?

  5. Misha profile image74
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    We are in dire need of sarcasm smiley smile

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Dryer without one

  6. Misha profile image74
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    LOL Yeah, I guess HP staff thinks the same lol

  7. ledefensetech profile image69
    ledefensetechposted 7 years ago

    At most we've been supporting then for only 30 years.  That's what the whole embargo thing in 1973 was about.  Before then the IDF had to be very good because their enemies were supplied with the latest in Soviet arms.  Heck during their war for independence they took on the combined armies of five Arabic countries and still managed to survive.  They don't really need our help, much as they welcome it.

    Part of the problem is that this has become a multi-generational fight.  Few, if any, of the people involved today remember the origins of the modern phase of this conflict and there are so many others who use the Israeli and Palestinian people for their own domestic purposes that neither side can get a fair shake.

    That being said, they are one of the only countries in the region which share most of our beliefs on civilization and society in general.  It would be madness not to support them.  The day the Arab countries start extending liberty to their nations, that will be the day we extend the olive branch, not before.  And that day could arrive much quicker than most realize.  Communication technology took down the Soviets and is slowly working its magic on tyrants the world over.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ok! Now you're talking!

  8. Misha profile image74
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    Frankly, I think everybody will be better off if you leave them alone. Eventually it will happen anyway, when USA economy crashes you won't have money to support them anymore. smile

    1. ledefensetech profile image69
      ledefensetechposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Don't be too sure.  How long did the USSR limp along before they finally collapsed?  I figure the economic boost we gave Stalin during the War lasted till about, oh 1960 or so, after that the US began pulling ahead economically.  Not that the Soviet military didn't give us fits.  The anti-air defenses they loaned to the Arabs really caught us by surprise.  It was nothing like what was given to the North Vietnamese.  At any rate, you're right, leave them alone and let them work it out for themselves.  Had that been done in the beginning, who knows how much death, misery and destruction could have been averted.

  9. ledefensetech profile image69
    ledefensetechposted 7 years ago

    Heh, one thing you'll find in short supply is moderation when talking about the Palestinian and Israeli conflict.  Ever notice how the conflict has expanded.  It used to be between Israelis and Palestinians, but now it's about the Arabs and Israelis.

    More people meddling where they shouldn't be.

  10. Misha profile image74
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    I absolutely fail to see what all this has to do with Israel lol

    But keep going guys, it's entertaining smile

    1. Pr0metheus profile image61
      Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this
    2. ledefensetech profile image69
      ledefensetechposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well they're fighting like they're Israelis and the Palestinians. 

      lol

      1. Misha profile image74
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Israelis always win lol

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I would be Israel responding to an idiot bomb!

          I'm one of them there "ignorant Texans!"

          1. Misha profile image74
            Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You have to keep civil though, or UN bans you for 3 days lol

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I got that. Did you read his brilliant rebuttals?

              1. Misha profile image74
                Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Oh, absolutely, Palestinians already earned their ban several times over lol

              2. Pr0metheus profile image61
                Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You mean like "you're smart", and "you are so educated", and "you are so intelligent", and "I won by being me"

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You're smart

        2. Aya Katz profile image87
          Aya Katzposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Israelis are Palestinians and Palestinians are Israelis.

          1. ledefensetech profile image69
            ledefensetechposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Is that kind of like the Irish are English and the English are Irish?

          2. Misha profile image74
            Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I don't think all Palestinians and Israelis think the same. But some definitely do. smile

  11. Pr0metheus profile image61
    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago

    Once again, read my response in this thread.

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That response is equally wrong! Do you have any idea how it happened? No!

      1. Pr0metheus profile image61
        Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I was young, don't really remember it clearly.  I don't really care to learn, it holds no bearing.  The comment was more to get you to shut up.

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          sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I'm feeling like you don't love me any more.

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Only thing you succeeded in is proving you shouldn't get involved in adult conversations. Now run along before I school you on how the real world works!

          1. Pr0metheus profile image61
            Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Or I shouldn't get involved in conservative circle jerks....

            And I know I'm smart, thanks... my history sucks, but who cares.

            At least I'm not a Texan.

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Thank God for that!

              1. Pr0metheus profile image61
                Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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              sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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                sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You got no horns boy!

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  But he's smart, just ask him!

                  1. Pr0metheus profile image61
                    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    My job requires quick learning and a pretty high level of intelligence.  My SAT scores reflect my intelligence, and I didn't even study for them.  How does a volley of sarcastic attacks prove your intelligence?

                    Get off your high horse, we're all driving cars now.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I want to be special will you write me my own, please?

  12. Aya Katz profile image87
    Aya Katzposted 7 years ago

    Anyway, to answer the question: the U.S. should stay out of the middle east entirely, for its own sake, and also, for Israel's.

  13. Pr0metheus profile image61
    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago

    With sarcastic insults about unrelated topics? Not really pushing.... More like taunting.  You remind me of Rush.

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You remind me of a bag of hair as in "as smart as!"

      1. Pr0metheus profile image61
        Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You're witty.

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You're not!

          1. Pr0metheus profile image61
            Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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