Many arguments about what Obama is doing and not doing has brought me to this question, " What would you do differently if you were President of the U.S.? Keep in mind you came into office with a huge deficit and an on-going war, a recession and the unemployment rate is high. Homes are still being foreclosed but they say the market is turning around. How would you handle health reform, the economy and keeping U.S. soil safe? Let's try to have this discussion without argument a good debate without swearing. Once the debate is complete we will take a vote on who would make a great U.S. President right here on Hubpages so this is going to be a two-part thread. Are you ready for the challenge?
well first ya gotta get rid of the lobbyists they are the ones running oboma so I guess I would take over for real and not be a puppet - thats what I would do first
What to do is fairly easy. First, open the borders. Our lifeblood has always been the energy and inventiveness of our immigrants. Second, kill the welfare-warfare state. No more government handouts, subsides, bailouts, etc. We didn't need that crap before the Progressive era and we don't need it now. Third, repeal of the sixteenth and seventeenth amendments as well as the federal reserve act. If people want to put their money in fractional reserve banks, caveat emptor, I'll put mine in a fully reserve bank.
Start over again! Oh,I forgot when the terrorists blow everything up it will stimulate the economy to rebuild everything.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Close all of our overseas bases and cut off all foreign aid. Let the world go its own way, we'll go ours.
Our border leaks like a sieve anyway. The only thing that keeps us safe from terrorists is their own stupidity and foreign immigrants. Do you really think they're going to let a terrorist pass into the US with them? They'd be the first ones to point them out to INS. Let's use that.
When we close those bases we put those resources on our borders. Then if our defense programs focused on defending the US only I bet It might save a buck or two!
Well you might want to catch up on some news there's been a couple of terrorists arrested recently. How many more 9-11's it going to take? Maybe if they blow-up a couple of elementary schools? No? How about a couple of hospitals? No? How about a mall or two? No? How about stadiums full of people? No? Just say what the line is.
Do you really think it's the government who protects us from terrorists or individual American's who do?
All I know is we are capable of handling our own issues and if we were to be attacked after we pulled back then any amount of force we would use would be justifiable to liberals and conservatives alike.
We handled Al Qaeda stupidly. In order to justify our bloated defense budget we knocked over two nations. Instead of doing that, it would have been much more effective to send in Special Forces into Afghanistan, locate bin Laden, drill him in the head and put his head on a pike in front of the White House.
Instead we've wasted billions and billions of dollars, more importantly killed too many of our kids for very little return and frightened the world half to death with our military adventures. Not that I care much what the rest of the world things, but I can understand their trepidation when the world's only superpower straps on their six shooters and goes hunting for people.
The US military is for continental defense only. Besides we have the largest navy in the world. I'm not sure the combined navies of the rest of the world could take on the USN, so we're pretty much immune to invasion. The Navy, Special Forces and the CIA are all we need to keep tabs on people who want to do us harm. The Army, Air Force and Marines are for dealing with anyone that wants to try to invade.
I definitely agree with you on these points.
It all comes down to the welfare-warfare state, you really can't have one without the other. Why do you think Obama is pushing for a solution to Sudan right now. Warfare gets the public's attention away from the welfare problems we're having right now. Or it used to, the Internet changes things quite a bit. I suppose that's why Obama is not viewed like FDR was in his time.
You believe opening the borders would really help? Why? We live in Arizona and we are over flowing with illegal immigration I realize everyone should be entitled to come here but they should do it legally.
If people want to come here, let them. It's the biggest compliment to our way of life that I can imagine. Out of the 193 or so nations, people usually pick this one to immigrate to because until recently this was one of the only places in which people could keep what they made and build a life for themselves.
The problem really isn't immigrants, it's the governments actions that make is harder and harder to make a living each year. Our dollar has fallen in value by over 95% in a little less than a century. People don't even talk about penny candy anymore or how you could once buy a car for $200. Our money has become more and more worthless and will become more and more worthless.
A second problem is the welfare state. When our great-grandparents came here, they started out with nothing, they needed no help from the government. They got out there and started farms, shops, businesses, etc. and started providing for their families. What we have today is a welfare system that pays people in exchange for support at the polls. There is no incentive to build a future for yourself and your family, why should you when you can get a check? Meanwhile the number of productive members or society gets smaller and smaller. What do you think happens when there are more people on the dole than there are producing?
By getting rid of welfare, we would immediately see benefits from the lowest class of citizens as they begin to provide for themselves. Those that do decide to start businesses would lead a recovery from this depression, create jobs and give people hope again. Real hope, not the fake hope some of our politicians have been spouting.
Transplant the economic lower class of Mexico to the U. S., wait for everyone who can't afford food and shelter now to start businesses with no capital, then bask in the wonders of penny candy and 200 dollar cars..........
I have started businesses with no capital, its not that hard to do if you are motivated. Problem is those receiving a check for not producing are not motivated and why should they be?
Good point, Tex. Ron you are aware that the lower class "transplants" themselves with no help from us already, right? The Dems are hot to get them on welfare because then, they have a pool of 12 million new voters. Or at least they can count on those people not voting against the Dems. You wouldn't want to encourage people to vote according to their conscience after all, they might elect another devil like Bush into office and we can't have that. Much better to control them economically and guide them to the "right" choice.
I think President Obama needs to be a little more forceful. He allows himself to be run over by too many, which causes him not to get the respect he needs. Turning the other cheek is one thing, but we only have TWO cheeks. How do I mean forceful? He needs to give up the truth like he said he would. What was that phrase he kept using? More "transparency"?
There is a reason they dont want us to have health care. He needs to expose this. There is a reason he feels the wealthy need to pay more taxes (probably because they have been robbing us blind for the past 8 years now). He needs to expose this. If people knew the truth about whats going on, they'd be more likely to be in his corner.
Okay, I guess I can tackle the problem and bring forth a description I've already have in the works.
What would you do differently if you were President of the U.S.?
First off, I would change "foreign" policy- America would STOP being the only place to seek aid from and America would be more active on policing of the world, meaning that the "CIA" would do a better, more sophisticated job before acting on intelligence it receives and before taking action - all action must be authoritized by the President of the U.S.
The CIA intelligence network would be built on a more solid foundation, than using out-dated information 2 to 3 weeks old, which isn't effective, in matters of National Security.
The FBI uncivilized actions, attitude and oppressive style would undergo a transformation as well.
The CIA and FBI would also be grouped together as one agency.
The FTC, FCC, SEC and many other agencies that have multiple over-lapping authorities would be combined into one agency.
The Treasury, FDIC and other Federal agencies, which domestically covers America's Economic foundation, would also be combined, as well.
This strips down Government agencies and forces them to work together, to better protect everyone in America.
The Department of Homeland Security would be stripped of it's authority and eliminated, because it isn't really necessary, because the FBI and CIA would be capable of handling all necessary protection for domestic citizens.
The BORDERS of America would be closed to Mexico and stricter methods would be implemented at Canadian border entrances. Passpports would be a requirement, even with the so-called "friendly" ties we share.
The Marketplace, which is regulated by such agency as the FDA - would lose some of it's power, but only in specific areas. The regulators which presently govern over non-profit/charitable organizations would have a new foundation and the present regulators in place would be given a demotion or reassignment, because of their failure to do their job. The federal "minimum" presently in place, which is 5% of total all revenue, would be increased to 50%. These organizations would comply or be subjected to fines or penalties, and/or prosecution, depending on the offense.
The "LAW" which was put in place by Congressional Officials that allows a "Business" entity to argue it's position equal to an individual would be ABOLISHED/ELIMINATE.
This "Law" gives a "business" entity the ability to wage war on single, individual citizens, on an equal basis, even though a business isn't a singular entity.(e.g. shareholders, investors and board-members, who seek profits over quality) This Law also allows many "business" entities to pressure Political officials, because a "business" entity can argue or scream- unconstitutionalility of other "laws" from a singular stance and WIN.
Why makes changes to the law? Because, a "business" entity has access to more 'money', per se, than the average person and could tie up a citizen in court for years. Which results in citizens who cannot afford the absurd court costs or lawyer fees, which comes as a part of ligitation of defending oneself.
The Economy is a self-sustained "animal", it cycles out bad business and lets good profitable business to grow, and expand. Capitalism must STAND on it's own- if a business is failing and can not get support from any other source(s), it would be forced to fail into bankruptcy. Absolutely NO INTERVENTION by any government authority would be allowed.
I would advise my entire staff- ANYONE who speaks to the media, from an unauthorized position would no longer be working for my administration. When the time comes to talk to the media, it will be by my voice. My administration isn't to inform or tell, any other person, of our programs, initiatives, laws(written) or changes within society, unless the plan is completely finished and ready for presentation to the people.
The "Leaks" in the FBI, which led to the baseless accusations of many of our TOP professional athletes, with regards to PED's or Steroids, would be fired and subjected to prison terms.
The other domestic problems, America has, such as Poverty, Starvation, Homeless, would need to be re-evaluated, determined how to best deal with the situation and then implemented.
The first of that plan would be a "rehabilitation" program for those who are poverty-stricken or homeless, so these people can become more productive within society.
The "Rehabilitation" program would help them with temporary housing assistance, a job/a career path or a business so they would be able to live on their own again. This program also requires mental, physical and emotional turmoil which embroils, each individual would also be addressed.
Those who are poverty-stricken or homeless due to "addiction" would be available to those who WANT to change their life. It would be done through existing agencies already equipped to handle substances abuse cases, such as drugs and alcohol. These are the two primary problems addiction arise from.
The medicare, medicaid, employment, minimum wage and social security programs would be re-vamped to create better protection for citizens.
These programs were implemented under false pretenses and executed in an efficient manner, otherwise eliminated.
To explain that position, I have to explain WHY?
The "Employment" program benefits only those businesses who participate and not the workers it was created for. The main purpose was to create a docile workforce for the Economy, because most people didn't understand the best way to use the Economy, so they could achieve what is known as the "American Dream" lifestyle. Workers' rights would be increased and strengthened, and enforced, unlike now.
The "Minimum" wage program would be enforced unilaterally across ALL states. States would not be able to subjectively utilize "minimum" wage programs, as they see fit, as it is now. The states presently do not have to match "minimum" wage rules, guidelines or law(s), because it's only based for "federal" employees and not all employees. This must change.
When we make that change- we bestow stricter guidelines, which "business" would be forced to re-evaluate their own productivity, personnel and conduct in the Marketplace.
On top of that- more resources would be allocated for Education development, to ensure that each person has the understanding of the best way to obtain "American Dream" lifestyle.
The "American Dream" lifestyle is to own a house, have money in the bank(comfortable) and be able to provide security for their family present and future.
Now, on to other things- Like the Second Amendment- which I am all in favor for, but I believe this does need to be changed in some form- such as, a singular individual has absolutely no need or requirement to obtain any form of military issued weapon, especially on domestic land. This is a must. Yes, you have a right to bear arms and protect yourself, but to own more than 3 to 4 hand-held weapons is lunacy and not required.
You wouldn't be able to buy any form of any weapon, any military personnel has access to or use. Having an AK-47 in the hands of a civilian is just stupid and allows for too much chaos to run rampant.
The last but no least- the elimination of many so-called "laws", which are presently on the books, such as "jaywalking", seat belt enforcement, taking a right turn on red(this is causing too many accidents and many are not stopping for the light anyways, they simply glide right thru a red light, which essentiall proves the law is incapable of being enforced on a large scale). Each state would be required to re-vamp their law books and eliminate any law, which is truly unenforceable at large.
If at any time, any state refuses to follow my position, as set forth- would lose federal funding and have to use state resources for their programs and services.
This creates a situation that if the states do refuse to abide and choose not to conform, because it's in the best interest of citizen, they will be forced to answer to their citizens, because of their lack of action.
There are others things, but I think you get he gist.
Feel free to weigh in.
Ok! There are some good ideas! Second Amendment, not so much, assualt weapons I can support that to a point. Maybe national armories where civilians can have an assualt weapon but keep it there until it's determined the population should be armed. On numbers, I have 6 to were my grandfathers and they are never used. I sure would hate give those up I would like to pass them to my son. Good post well thought out!
Lock up weapons until the government says you need them? You're scaring me sneak!
Lock up weapons until the government says you need them?
Who said that.....do you like putting words into other people's mouth?
Military weapons have no place in society.
I can understand, some people like to collect guns and do so, because they can.
But, what prevents any 'one' person from using those weapons on society? Certainly not the law.
We already have a problem with ILLEGAL guns. Adding to it by putting military 'grade' weapons in non-military hands is lunacy gone mad.
I would tell everyone that I am not the Messiah. Even though most figured that out by now.
I'd appoint Earnest as my Seperation of Church and State Czar!....lol
I would be proud to serve! Should I break out my green card?
You will be granted special privelage Earnest, Honorary Resident Status and Free Fosters!, Just bring the baseball bat! And Fridays we will designate as Fish and Hot Chips day!
Of course we have to comission an Australian Chef! I'll let you handle the work visa!
I would have let the big banks go under - mis-managed companies do NOT deserve bail outs.... I would have given everyone over 50 an equal share of that same money under the direct order they had to purchase a new car, bought or paid for a home, and retired.
that would have fixed unemployment issues, that would have fixed the auto and construction industry.... opening doors for new and smart run banks to make solid investments available for the public.
As for health care - eliminate pharmaceutical control of insurance and tax dollars - that would naturally free up money for proper health care.
then I would retire to a tropical island with a fat government pension.... LOL
I just came up with something to keep American soil safe...give a gun with a laser sight to every law-abiding citizen
I would start from start. Review everything and make each program justify it's exsistence. Get rid of redudant programs and give the states more responsibility for their citizens, thereby bypassing much of the bureaucracy in Washington.
I would try to persuade as many as legislators as possible to act as statesmen and do what is best for the country as a whole.
I would expect everyone to make sacrifices for the good of the country and all of it's citizens.
I would live in a style that more resembles a middle income person rather that the royalty that is presumed now.
This is just for starters!
Well, this question has to wide of a range and is a loaded question.
But the mistakes that I see Obama making that I would do differently would be to take care of the current problems before embarking on something ambitious like healthcare reform because that takes away everyone's time (Obama, Congress, etc.) from our current problems.
I would do whatever it takes to unite both parties on certain issues because Obama has even split the Democrats on certain issues.
I would also give less speeches. I think his approval rating is going down on some level because of over-exposure.
I can understand him wanting to make a name for himself and tackle a million things at once but he needs to prioritize. I don't think he set up a proper administration to get things done without him. So he needs to concentrate on the priorities right now which is the economy, military/terrorism and unemployment.
Wow Tim!!! Now you are going in the right direction you are a great candidate for President.
What can I say? Put me on the ballot! haha
Oh, man. This was really funny. And by funny I meant sad.
LiveLonger my friend what would you do if you were President?
I, unlike most of the complainers here, am fairly pleased with Obama's performance so far. I don't pretend to be a politician, so I can't say how I'd approach things differently.
Sometimes. Other times I lead. I prefer a merit-based approach instead of a partisan or bigoted one.
But grumbling and whining about whoever is actually doing something isn't exactly leading, is it?
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A Texan that was not nice everyone is entitled to their thoughts.
Am I not entitled to mine? Are you trying to censor me because I did something not nice? This Country is falling apart
I believe I like you , you are such a rebellious person. Of course you are entitled to yours just like they are entitled to there's . ((( Big Hugs))
If I were the President I would resign because clearly I am insane!
Oh my godness you are such a nut! Don't give up before your term is over honestly how would you handle it?
I would lower business tax and possibly prevent a larger exodus of business to other Countries. I would lower personal income tax because it has shown the IRS gets more money when its done! I would push for tort reform and open up interstate commerce for health care insurance. I would outlaw American Idol and any show featuring dancing!
Outlaw dancing shows? I don't care for American Idol either. lololo but I do like your ideas.
No American Idol ????? Woo Hoo !!!!! Ya,..my kind of Prez,...Semper Fi !!!!
They didnt seem to have a problem with raised taxes when Clinton was in office and many have clearly stated that, although they pay high taxes its nothing compared to what they earn. One man said his employees payed a higher percentage of their income on taxes than he did. Kinda makes you wonder why they are protesting so much doesnt it, as if we dont know the answer already.
I don't know if any of us could answer that.
I think once you're in that 'hot' seat, so many things change because of all the variables involved.
As you said, he has so many messes to straighten out before he can really do what he wants to do. He has certainly helped some homeowners keep their homes and put people back in college. It's sad that so many are against him forgetting what he walked into. We can all stand or (sit) on the sidelines and complain or do whatever we can do in our part of the country to make things better. my 2 cents. A lot of complainers do nothing.
I wouldn't want his job.
I would ask everyone who questions my Presidency and doesn't like the way I am leading the country to leave their name and email on a website.
To give everyone of them an opportunity to spend a day with me. They will then have an indepth knowledge of why I make certain decisions and would also see the fuller picture of being a President. At the end of the day, I would give them an opportunity to share their views and see if there is anything they would have liked to be done differently or suggestions.
A team will monitor the website. i.e contacting people with dates available, co-ordination etc
In doing this I am positive that people will change their negative views as they would’ve had a chance to see the inside challenges I face as a president. Also, have an idea of what’s in the pipeline and not forgetting the fact that they get a ride in “The Beast” and if I’m flying – Air force one.
At the end of the day, when I thank them (well, just being polite) for spending the day with me – as I open the door to the Oval office and bid them farewell, my final question to them would be “Oh, by the way, do you think I deserved that Nobel Peace Prize?”
Ps. I did a Hub out that interracial thread you brought up recently and referenced you at the bottom. Hope you don't mind. Thx.
I would make Mondays optional...
I'll get back to you on the rest
I am please with the efforts of the Obama administration. He takes his job lot more seriously than his predecessor. I do not believe any president in the past decade or two has created more controversy in the first 9 months in office. I think he's touched or even taken steps to issues that are important today:
1. Health care reform, truthfully Americans don't know what they want. who is to blame for that? Media? I think we as Americans need to be more involved in the process of finding out what is in these bills that are being presented in front of congress. I will admit I certainly have not done that. So before pointing fingers at democrats & republicans we should decide for ourselves what we like or don't like in the bill because I can guarantee you this much that the senators have not read the entire bill either.
2. Bringing troops back, although he stated earlier in his term that he would bring them back, but I think the dialog on this matter has since been pushed aside.
3. Economic relief to business, I don't believe giving billions on dollars to businesses that were responsible for bringing the economy down in the first place is the right thing to do. Would the economy worsen if we didn't keep them afloat? Yes but recessions don't last for ever and eventually we will come back. These large corporations should not have received bailouts, instead the money should have been given back to the American people.
I give the Obama administration an A for effort but a C for execution. It has only been 9 months and we still have over 3 years to come up with our likes and dislikes about this administration.
I would work more towards taking care of the mortgage problem. These greedy corporations which adjustable interest rates need to go back and redo these loans and offer a fixed rate instead which may or may not be affordable to these people who made the mistake. Give the money back to the people rather than the corporations thats what I will do.
Lead by example instead of threatening Iran and North Korea about their one nuke weapon . Id cut our arsenal in half .
Off the top of my head, and not that the president actually has the authority to do all of these things,BUT what I would do if I could, and what I'd love to see:
Adopt a non interventionist policy in the affairs of other countries. Mind our own business. Bring our troops home. The terrorists will leave us alone when we get out of their lands.
Halt foreign aid entirely, at least until our national debt is paid. Let's pay a little charity to our children and grandchildren by paying off the debt we're leaving them instead of consigning them to being little more than slave-workers for the state all of their lives.
Cut spending to an absolute minimum until we're spending money we've saved up instead of money we've borrowed. I'd make paying off our nation's debt my number one policy.
Term limits!!! Oh,how I'd love to see term limits in Congress so the feeding frenzy would stop! I'd create an ethics code and enforce it. Felons, check bouncers, DUI Congressmen, tax evaders,all would have to step down.
While we're add it,let's make earmarks illegal. Not allow a Congressman to vote who hasn't read the bill. Require candidates for election to all have the same amount of money to spend on their campaigns, which would level the playing field.
And let's repeal all the unconstitutional laws we have and require all bills to be constitutional before they can be brought forward.
I am not a citizen of the US and I have zero chance to become the US President. However, let me say what I would do if that dream comes true.
I will curtail all the extra freedom enjoyed by people. No lottery, no horse races, no car races, no night clubs. Limited liquor, limited smoking. Compulsory work for every citizen, including women. All women will be forced to go to work, even if it is physical, like in China. Curtail imports, increase exports.
And a strict neutral policy towards all countries without favouritism. CIA's activities overseas will be curtailed. Like Communists, democracy will be promoted in all countries. Military dictators will be discouraged. In the name of "human rights", no interference in others' internal affairs. Will treat Angsen-su-kyi at par with affected people elsewhere. No special treatment to her. (In Srilanka, Tamil women are living in hell without water, sanitation, clothing, and dwelling. They are abused like anything. But US is still not worried for that. They worry about Aangsen-su-kyi only.)
These controversies will be set right by me, if I go to the white house. (Strangely, my house is fully white).
Adolph, Adolph is that you? You wacky fascist where have you been?
I am in my home, taking rest, reading news, eating thrice a day, etc. etc., leading a retired life. I am not wacky fascist... I am not Adolph... I said dictators should be discouraged and democracy encouraged... My intention is to bring discipline among people like in Japan and UK. That will improve everything.
You are going to let us be free by taking our freedom? Do you have any idea how long any President would last if he did what you propose? Good luck with that retirement...Adolph
Interesting now I see another person's perception from another Country I can see now that we are honestly quite free. What exactly do you men by compulsory work? I do like the idea of critiquing so many imports and exporting more I believe that we should give back our jobs to our Country and then so many would not be out of work. We have large corporations who would rather pay for slave labor in another Country then taking care of there own people right here at home.
If our Country did not intefer then many Countries would still be enslaved and everyone to me is entitled to Freedom. " Let Freedom Ring" You just said, " no interference with human rights" so is that not a double standard? Why should we help the women of Sri Lanka if we are not to poke our nose in there business? Kindly explain that to me.
It's really simple. I would do the exact opposite of everything Obama is doing!
History shows, government spending does NOT create jobs. It could have a short term stimulative effect if enough money was spent quickly. Keep in mind the American economy is 14 trillion dollars and the Obama stimulus though huge at 787 billion is still small compared to the economy. Also he spread the spending out over time. A good deal of that money has yet to be spent, and they're talking about another stimulus bill!
What I would have done here was immediately suspended withholding taxes equal to approximately 4000 per worker. The people would have used the money according to their own needs. Some towards their mortgage, some into savings, some spending on various things. Business too would have had additional cash. All of this would have been an instantaneous boost to the economy.
Next I would make severe cuts to the budget to close the gap created by Bush. I would have cut the size of the federal government, cut programs and laid off workers.
I'd still do what Obama is doing in Iraq, slowly withdraw, but I would do the same in Afghanistan. I'd also start closing military bases all around the globe except those places that are necessary for energy security.
Speaking of energy, I'd drill, drill, drill! And I'd promote the construction of nuclear power plants easing the regulation on them Modern technology has made their operation much safer.
I'd cut corporate taxes to the bone! I'd hang the "America is Open For Business" sign on the window of this country bringing corporations and jobs back!
That's just for starters!
Of course you have to look at the ones that are costing the most money, social security and medicare and medicaid, but I would also put an end to foreign aid, and I'd legalize drugs. People have to take responsibilty for themselves! Now those are small savings but it sends the message "Americans First"! The best way for America to help the wold is to set the example of prosperity and freedom, and by being prosperous and free the rest of the world will also improve!
Wow!!! These are great ideas I believe if we legalized drugs less people would be prone to using them.
That wasn't the case with alcohol, legalize marijuana and tax it but hard stuff should be illegal and much harder to get!
No. Probably more people would be prone to using them but we could spend money on treatment and education to keep people from using them. In the UK now they are giving heroine addicts heroine and it's working to eliminate violent crime. It's the illegality that creates the profit motive for criminals to kill for drugs, money and territory and for users to steal to support their habit. Put it this way, drugs have been illegal sine the 20s and we still have a drug problem!
1. Dismantle the Fed
2. Throw all the bankers in jail
3. Throw all the lobbyists in jail
4. Take steps to dismantle the two-party system and help to create a nine-party system (that way politicians can build different coalitions pertaining to different issues)
5. Use all that money I stole back from the banks and the Fed to repair infrastructure
6. Use all that money I stole back from the banks and the Fed to disarm most of the nukes
7. Force the mortgage companies to return all of those stolen houses
8. Choose Mary Carey as my running mate
9. Survive at least a few assassination attempts before the invisible gov't finally got me
LOL, am I missing something here? You stole some money and you're running for office???
(I think what is meant here is he is taking back that bailout money and is going to use it on infrastructure, etc.)
Got right to the heart of things, didn't you?
1. Return the countries foriegn policy to a non interventionist policy. That would mean withdrawl from both Iraq and Afghanistan. I would redistribute the money currently being used for those campaigns to Domestic National Security issues. In other words this money would be used to fund the Border Patrol, The Coast Guard, U.S. Customs. I would target these organiztions because they are primarily responsible for securing our nations ports and borders. A withdrawl of standard combat troops from these regions will require the need of a new Military force. A forces specifically recruited and trained to fight Terrorism. AFinally not a single dollar of tax payer money will leave this country. American's are more than charitable enough, we don't need to send tax dollars as well.
2. Change the culture of Washington DC. I would contract independent auditors to audit the Federal Reserve, Medicare, SSI, etc. Corruption will be rooted out and removed. Any elected official will be censured if they fail to pay taxes! No extentions, no excuses. All Federal Agencies not covered specifically under the Constitution will have their budgets cut by 20%. That means if your not the DOD, DOT, DOJ, DOE, DOEd, DHHS your going on a diet! Speficially the DOC, DOL, USDA, DOI, will be downsized significantly. The VA will be consolidated with the DOD. Homeland Security will be consolidated with the DOJ. HUD will be abolished.
3. Immigration and Labor. One issue really can't be discussed with out the other. My immigration policy would be targeted to restore our Nations manufacturing industry. Specifically designed to end the strangle hold unions have on US manufacturing. Those here illegally must return to their country of origin. Work visa's will only be allowed for manufacturing and construction industries. No work visa's for agriculture.
4. Taxes: Remove the capital gains tax. Remove the death tax(permenantyl). Remove the marriage penalty. Reduce Corporate Taxes by 50%. 100% of preventative medical will be tax deductable. Re-tool the IRS to actively engage the non profit sector. The day's of non profits enjoying tax free status while
taking advantage of Americans generousity are over.
Why these measures? Simple, we are in debt up to our ears! We can no longer allow to let spending go unchecked. Get the defict down, clean up fraud, waste and abuse. Once that has been accomplished we can address other issues.
Thats it. That is more than enough to cover a 4 year period.
I want to say thank you. And to let you know, I understand where you're coming from.
But, please also realize- when OBAMA was elected to office, the day after(nov. 5), such groups as ARIAN Nation had recruitment numbers SKYROCKET(2000 new people signed up on Nov. 6.) and their access to military-style weapons, doesn't bode well for the rest of society.
So, there is a lee-way to work on the Second Amendment.
I don't own one mine are all hunting rifles,well three rifles and three shotguns. I have no use for those clowns and anyone else that are intent on hurting people. Today I was accosted by Larouche supporters at the post office, I have no use for their vile crap either. They will never represent my family or me. I believe in the militia concept and keeping those weapons on hand but out of reach. The truth is my hunting rifle will kill way past a thousand yards if I could see or hit something that far away. A high powered hunting rifles are as or more powerful than an assualt rifle. The assault rifles are designed for close fighting not really hunitng.
How do you see in any form....that MILITARY GRADE weapons should be handled by civilians?
What Military grade weapons are out there? 0 thats how many. What you want to prevent is the right to own a weapon that is no different than my Deer hunting rifle just because it holds more rounds in the magazine!
Don't sit there and tell me what I want to do.
Because you don't know.
AK-47, M-16, AR-15 and other assorted weapons do not need to be in civilian hands. It's too dangerous.
Hand-held guns like .357, 9mm, 10mm, 11mm and such are fine.
What is your problem?
Come on Tex you know what they mean. The same old story is told over and over again. They drag out an SKS, AK, or AR and well it looks menacing. The people take the attitude thats being explained above. Then once the legislation goes through it turns out that you and I can't have regular ole 223 or 308 varmit rifle anymore because we put a flash supressor on it or we have a large cap mag..... Don't expose the bait and switch argument! Its all they have left since the Supreme Court has ruled.
Casgil, by the way the second amendment says:
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Sounds like to me I can have a howitzer if I can afford it!
That's insane to have a Howitzer in your yard.
I understand your right to protection, but get real.
So, you would use it. On who, if not me?
Do you expect an invasion?
By who? and when?
And, why wasn't the pubic told it was happening?
I'm pretty sure they are not going to tell us!
But, you're talking about "outsiders" coming into the U.S., besides terriorists, because even if you did see a terriorists....you can not justify shooting him, without going to prison for life.
Right? Like Mexico.
He lives in TEXAS! There is an on going invasion!
Of course its insane to keep it in your yard. I was thinking you should probably keep it in a climate controlled garage. Besides if you just left it in your yard, some one might steal it!
Howitzers ARE real. And in case you can't figure out what we're talking about with the Second Amendment, it's to protect us from our own government as much as from anything else.
Judging by the events of recent years, maybe MORE than anything else.
Tanks would be good, too, but not the version we had in 1965. They had Cadillac engines and automatic transmissions. One of the transmissions malfunctioned, and the result was two dead U.S. Army Sergeants. You think "friendly fire" isn't friendly? Trying being scrunched like a windshield bug by a steel tank tread!
I don't think I would do too much different from what Obama is doing right now.
He is focusing on Healthcare because its a huge issue! I was watching the Today Show on NBC and they had two different situations where major insurance companies turned away a 4 month old because he was too fat and then a 2 1/2 year old because she was too skinny. Problems like these need to stop. Being such a rich nation and not have all of our people covered by insurance is a sad and confusing thing. I do agree that government run healthcare would be complicated and just add more bureaucracy to the whole thing but something needs to be done. I think Obama has the right idea.
I think he is staying away from the military and terrorist issues because the Bush Administration simply used those issues as scare tactics to make sure the American people wouldn't question there actions. And when we finally caught on they had already started something we could just walk away from. We can destroy the world with all the bombs we have so why are we so scared and worried? Sure make sure there is money for intelligence but don't over burden taxes with new military equipment that we aren't going to use because it is declared inhumane.
Our Economic and Technology based areas have increased over the years but our social infrastructures have simply stayed the same. I mean our education system is based on an 1800 German system designed for factory workers. So focusing on our social infrastructure such as the Health care in the country.
So I think that he is on the right track. Its been shown for example Rome that when the social infrastructures crumble so will the rest of the nation.
I'm only trying to understand your position.
Which is rightful so.
Knowledge of your position is key to solving the problems and views of many.
The biggest problem is many don't understand or look at the bigger picture, outside their own little world.
Don't get angry or mad. I only seek understanding people's views on the topic.
I don't agree with an 19 year, who has an "EGO" the size of texas, from killing a bunch of people, just because he's angry at the world.
Is there somebody advocating that a 19 year old should kill people? I am advocating the right to defend myself from the 19 year old!
I understand that, but if they didn't have access to military type weapons, there would be less danger for incident to happen.
I have no problem with defending oneself- I'm all for that.....excessiveness to an extreme....like military type weapons maybe should be restricted to HIGHER age category then.
Would a higher age requirement be better for extreme weapons?
Well you have to be 21 in Texas, but I'm pretty sure we have psychos older than that! Restricting firearms has not slowed the killing in Britain by firearms, it never will. It will only prevent law abiding citizens from protecting themselves!
There are lots of laws/limitations out there already. What has that changed? Casgil, you can make a single shot pistol/rifle in your garage. Its not that hard. You can skip school/work and steal one. You can use a lot of different weapons to inflict harm on another. The fact is that no law, restriction on personal freedom or law enforcement agency will garantee your safety. In fact the police have been restricted to the point where they should be forced to change their motto from "Serve and Protect" to "Arive and Report". Nothing discourages bad behavior more than an uncertain outcome, especially if possible outcomes are bad for the person egaging in the bad behavior. If I don't know what you will do if attacked, I'm less likely to attack. Keep in mind that applies whether you have a weapon or not. If I know you will behave passively you invite my attack. If I know you will respond aggressively I'm even less likely to attack. It boils down to responsibility. Even law enforcement will tell you that YOU are primarily responsible for your own well being and safety.
Then what do you suppose?
I do not agree.....anything the U.S. does...should be based on what the world does, because usually, as far as rights are concerned....the U.S. LEADS all other Nations, with regards to rights afforded to citizens.
I agree- education should be good, but what about the racists with any agenda that is unknown?
Suppose? The Government needs to stay out of our lives and pay attention to the restrictions placed on it by the Constitution.
The Constitution is a perfect, even Holy, document that allows us to govern without the cumbersome process of cognitive function. I continue to be impressed by the ability of these revolutionary ubermenschen to see 230 years into the future and suply a written answer for every contingency.
Plus if they did miss something, Glenn Beck can find an answer for us. I love being a Republican.
Sorry, all of the really insightful ones:
Obama is a communist.
Obama weren't even born here.
It's been 9 months already and he hasn't even started a war yet.
have all been used up.
not that it really matters, because this whole conversation stemmed from what I said about if I was president.
I don't plan on running....how ever, I will be old enough in a few years to actually run for office.
But, I have no interest in politics, because 99% are only interested in abusing their positions.
Because you did! lololo it is o.k. to debate them because they are not old enough to run for President doens't mean that you could not debate them.
Great, then we could turn right around and put you on trial after your term ended. Awesome idea.
Much like the Nuremberg trials, or Guantanamo if you like that better, guilty is in the eye of the beholder.
And of course, if the guilty is in the eye of the beholder....then how can anyone be innocent until proven guilty?
Hmmm....sounds like a problem.
Guilt or Innocence would be in the eye of the beholder, what exactly is your point?
If you can't figure it out, then I'm not going to tell you.
I'm not your father or parent, and I'm not here for a civics lesson.
If you need further clarification, I suggest you go back to school and re-learn America's history, why it became and then maybe you'd understand.
Until then....YOU and I are done.
In other words you made a mistake and don't want to admit it, thats happening a lot lately.
Jeebus. And you accuse me of personal attacks!
I could take lessons from Cagsil. She's Goooood!
Nobody accused you of making personal attacks. That is you who claim that.
Here we go again! Nobody? I beg to differ.
Round and round and round we spin with feet of lead and wings of tin.
No we don't, you like to turn people in for weird things, so I will let you be.
Liam- Texan is full of mindless personal attacks. Texan appears to be a sad individual, who has no tact, and is full of fear and insecurity. You cannot argue with a mindless individual, full of fear and insecurity. You are just the opposite of Texan. Don't lower to their level. Just start reporting them. Look at your hubscore and look at theirs. See?, Texan appears to know only one way to communicate, and that way is their conversations.
I kind of like Tex to be honest. I used to live there and thought Texas had many fine people in it. Though they tend to be primarily right-wing they will also give you the shirt off their backs if you need it. Texans tend to be way more complicated people than most realize.
I'm not sure what upsets him so much. But he does have the right to speak his mind. I just wish he'd debate more and accuse less. I think, and this is a guess, he's worried about what might be.
That or he is just on the RNC band-wagon and anything this administration does is wrong no matter what.
It's not quite that relative. The big argument against the Nuremberg trials was how do you punish the authors of something like the Holocaust and what do you do with the people caught up in the political machinery. Basically the trials were telling people that they should have defied Hitler and been shot out of hand protesting the camps rather than keeping their heads down. I'd suggest that nobody who hasn't been in that position can throw stones.
That's the main reason the US doesn't take part in that "human rights" court in the Hauge. Often times those things become political rather than about justice.
What else is new.
Politics is about skewing the perception of the public and the voters in each country allow their politicians to get away with it......
As long as you the voters continue to let the pathetic people you vote into office, continue to do what they do.....those politicians are going to say- hey the people don't care so why should we.
Politics is all about perception and when government can spin it in a favorable direction to benefit itself....what's that say about the voters who vote them in?
The voters who vote them in are the very ones who benefit from the situation. What government forgets is that political power really does come from the barrel of a gun. You can only give stuff to 25% of the population at the expense of the other 75% for so long.
Hopefully the 2010 and 2012 elections will not be corrupted by organizations like ACORN. Those elections might be the last chance we have to change things in accordance with the law.
Innocent until proven guilty is were we started. Its not where we are now. Today we have warrentless arrest, class crime/legislation and for the worst crimes its now guilty until proven insane!
Listen, I think they committed crimes against humanity. They did. Shall we start showing stats?
And since when did I say I was Pres? WTF LEF?
Were you just trying to make me look stupid, but in turn maybe the karma turned towards you instead?
Real lovely LEF. Sorry, but I really feel that way. Now would you like to have a conversation about that, and address some of those issues possibly, or just being plain rude your featured tactical style? RK speaks so highly of you, I don't get it- maybe he was talking about another LEF from Missouri.
Um, that's the topic of the thread. What would you do differently if you were the Pres?
Yeah??? And your answer, when you quote my post was for what? You can't be who I'm thinking of, my bad.... No way. My apologies, I have a friend here on hubpages who thinks alot of someone with a name similar to yours. Moreover though is the fact their is no way you are the person- you don't measure up to the high standards my friend mentioned. My bad, I apologize.
You have no idea how heartbroken I am to hear that. I don't really care what your opinion of me is. Just so you know, I don't care about personal attacks, people who indulge in them show how shallow and petty they really are, but I'd be careful doing that around here if I were you, not everyone is as Zen about it as I am.
Since you didn't get it, my answer was, be careful what you do with power, because it might come back and bite you on the rear end later. By putting Bush and Cheney on trial for the high crime of being on the other party, you'd put yourself in danger of the very same thing. But you can't see that, sorry.
Are we pretending that I'm a President? Because you do realize that would be make believe. And, further more I don't care about you. I was trying to be polite. I don't know you. I NEVER said that I cared about you. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL. Are you stupid or something? I don't care what or what not about you. Personally why are we bantering? Learning something about yourself? What?
And on top of that....not everyone is FORCED to vote.
I have yet to vote for any politician since I turned 18 and I am now 41(effective today).
I don't vote, because the system itself is corrupt, as well, as most of the politicians.
I would LOVE to see, just one election----just one, where NO ONE turned out to vote for either candidate, because neither one belonged in office.
You have the power in your hands as a citizen, yet you waver to use, when you can.
Simply saying that I voted for the less of two evils....isn't the answer.
Will you little boys stop arguing about meaningless things?
NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK
Well, it's not going anywhere, they are both going in circles.
Who is being disrespectful? And what makes anyone think they deserve respect anyway? I don't demand respect from anyone here either I get it or I don't! If any of you people meant a thing to me I might care but you don't, everybody that is except for uninvited writer, we got a thing.
Dang! Now I've got to clean coffee spew off of the monitor and keyboard. Thanks a lot!
Yeah, Dallas/Fort Worth- Texans giving you the shirts off their backs... um, I didn't see to much of that. Must have been in different lifetimes. Got my foot ran over by a loud mouth Texan, who only liked Texans and no one else. Yep- that's Texas.
But then again, I didn't think Texan was representing the state of Texas. I kinda thought Texan was representing themselves. For all I know, Texan was born in Ohio, and Texan is just a name.
Like Dallas, from New Jersey in the film Forest Gump.
Funny, how many people did Texas take in during and after Katrina? How well was their hospitality repaid when their crime rates began to go up? You might want to stop assuming things and take a better look at things before you say anything.
Nah, Lita's never torn into me like that. Even when I inadvertently called her a cretin. She and I get along pretty well.
I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Are you aware that you tend to "shriek" when you respond to someone?
Are you aware that you insulted every American who helped Katrina victims- that's NOT a TEXAN?
That's something a weasel might do, how do weasels sound Mr. Ledefensetech? You're the expert on everything about me, and how much I'm suppose to give two shits about you?
What were you saying? Oh I know what it was, I'm the President.
We still on that level? You know, YOU pretending again.... about me being on trial? huh?
I'd like to say, that there were and still are 1,000's of wonderful Americans, from all 50 states who have given service too, and who are still in the service of the victims of Katrina. To think otherwise, is a disgrace to those who lost their lives trying to save Katrina victims from their roof tops.
LOL What a drama. Didn't you by chance bite on that apple too, LDT?
Prolly your French like handle deceives her, she obviously can't decipher it, too
Could be, funny thing is that I'm Mexican. Maybe that's it, too much machismo, do you think?
Yeah, I do. I've been informed that LDT is one in the same with LEF.
By the way-
so am I. Shrieky enough? More nasal for the weasel? What Mr. LED?
Put the ACLU in charge of the Republican party, for my entertainment.
Really? The ACLU?? I suppose you're a liberty proponent? Then you must be against the Health Care bill since it FORCES people to BUY insurance?
That would almost be as funny as the National Socialists incharge of the democrats!
Now, that's all funny stuff right there.
I concur. Entertainment is entertainment. I think both would shake things up a bit. Maybe for the better.
If I was the President of the USA, I would wake up, and not be the president anymore. I would say..that poor jerk...so happy thats not my job!!
you can not please all of the people all of the time
I would put a tax on all imports at the ports of call and use that money to give free healthcare for all US Citizens. I would call back all of our troops and let them protect our cities and borders and take away all aid to other nations. I would by executive order kick the UN out of the US and us out of them. I would demand all companies that are American and manufacturing out of our Nation to bring back half of those jobs to America. By executive order I would ban all lobbyists and all political parties and lift habeas corpus or what ever it is called and arrest anyone trying to stat another political party and CEO who dares defy my EO and place them in Guantanamo Bay along with any and all Banker Executives or Insurance ones that receives more than his present salary, no bonuses. I would also by Executive order place a 1% interest on all credit and remove the present crookery of credit and credit cards. By Ezecutive Order I would declare all trial lawyers to leave our borders until the healthcare of the nation improves and Dr's are able to treat patients without fear of frivolous lawsuits. I would set up a Czar to take care of the malpractice of doctors who could then properly mandate through courts the proper course to follow.
By Executive Order I would bannish the Commerce Dept., Education Dept., the Homeland Security Dept, CIA and FBI and combine them into the Secret Service.
By Executive Order I would legalize Pot and Same Sex Matrimony and by Executive Order have all Hate Mongers sent to Guantanamo Bay. Is that enough or should I also ban Canadians from coming to America?
That's a strange and interesting mixture of both freedom and autocracy. You'd get what you wanted, but I think you'd gut our economy in the process.
I am at a loss for words and that is something new! lolol
On the imprt side however our small business owners are being slammed with high duties have you ever looked at the textile tariffs? They are ridiculous and then after customs examines and strips there containers there profit margin is almost zero. As for the corporations they have gotten by with corporate murder that is an entire different story. But maybe if you could lower the duites rates and bring back jobs based on our needs to the U.S. I do believe the tax just may work.
It's not the duties that have cost the US their manufacturing jobs, it's the high price of American labor. Lower the cost of that labor and you'd see jobs opening up left and right around here.
But hell LEF, you'd have us all thinking we are in the greatest depression ever- remember?
Let me guess- it's Obama's fault.
No it's not his fault, this has been building up since at least the end of the Clinton administration. He isn't making things better, he's making them worse. What I haven't figured out is if he's doing this deliberately or not.
Dead cat bounce man, just wait for it.
I'm curious, do you actually read what you write? You'd have us all believing that things were just peachy during Bush's administration, both of them. Through all that wordiness you put forth, are that blinded by your own rubbish to see how far fetch and unrealistic your misconceptions are? What's your deal? Do you live in a cave the years the Republicans are only in office, and in the middle of I-70 into on coming traffic the years a democrat is in office?
As a fellow Republican, your arguments are so 1 sided, that it is now understandable why you resort to that of make believe, and fairy-tales as your only retaliation to rebuff a good political argument.
This is not an answer to the aforementioned. Having said that if I were president, I would immediately send more troops to Afghanistan. I would make it a point to sanction the hell out of Iran. I would find out who has children with more than two partners and provide compulsory sterilization free of charge -- hell; even at the taxpayer's expense, thereby saving a ton of money later -- in terms of government handouts.
2) I would fine the hell out of companies that outsource what should be American work. Those who are into "offshore hiring" and haven't legitimate business with a foreign company would be heavily penalized and I mean heavily. Something that would pull the ungodly CEO off of his or her respective country club course for about a quarter...forcing him back into an office to think about what he or she is actually doing to America.
I'm curious, do you read what I write. I've never said things were peachy during Bush's reign, I've argued that most of his policies got us where we are today. Obama is just making things worse.
When have I ever claimed to be a Republican? I never have. So you might want to check yourself, before you start making unfounded statements.
Believe it or not, I have actually followed many of your threads, so YES I DO know for a fact that YOU are a Republican, thank you very much. I use to be one of your fans!
Get a clue, and most importantly have your facts correct.
Awesome, I have a stalker. You'd think if she found me stupid and moronic, she'd stop being my fan.
She seemed to be more or less OK before, I am puzzled frankly.
You're puzzled? This came at me out of left field. Oh well, if I'm making certain people mad, I must be doing something right.
I would not have bail out GMC and would leave health care alone plus I would not be trying to spread the wealth around to my campaign supporters. I would be more center instead of so far left like Obama is. I sure would be taking care of our troops that on the battle field by giving them whatever they need or I would bring them home asap and not be playing politics with their lives like obama by him not sending troops the commander has asked for until after the governor's races in NJ and Va!
And what would you do in a few years when we were right back where we were pre-9/11?
What would make you believe we would go back to a pre-9/11 frame of mind?
I wasn't talking about a "frame of mind," I was talking about a situation similar to the one from which great destruction was visited upon my country.
Some people have already (eagerly) gone back to a pre-9/11 "frame of mind."
Then you would be saying that we would dismantle our defenses and draw down our rediness as well as stop our intelligence capabilities?
Maybe (in all your excitement) you failed to read the post I was originally responding to.
OOOOOOHHHH! The excitement is blinding when responding to your posts. I responded to your statement as it was stated. But I guess if you want tit for tat as usual this won't go any further than your usual tirades.
And what would you do in a few years when we were right back where we were pre-9/11?
This is the statement you made that I responded too.
This is so screwed up with the tit for tat I talked about.
Your statement implied that there is a pre-9/11 condition that predisposed the United States to be ill prepared to deal with a 9-11 scenario. This is also the propoganda that a lot of the military option people spew to keep the war going so that we will not fall into a unprepared state of mind again. I was merely responding to the implication your statement made. Now can you keep up?
If you didn't understand what was being said, you shouldn't have responded.
If we were to pick up and leave Afghanistan without establishing a stable, secure government and society, then in short order the Taliban would be back in charge and Al Quaeda would be welcomed back to reestablish bases from which to plan and execute massive terror plots. Sound familiar?
That is what I was talking about. Please don't make me explain it again.
Now, if you want to talk about a "mind set" that inclines some to go back to the deadly assumptions and turning of a blind eye that led us to 9/11 I suggest you start a new thread for that interesting but rather involved issue.
where we were pre-9/11is not a description of anything so supposition is where the reader is left. Keeping up would require a complete thought and set up for one to understand what you meant and not what you stated.
In response to your supposition that the Taliban would return to power and that Al Qaeda would crop up again is a thoughtless response to what is going on there. They are already in power and just as in Jordan with Hamas taking over through elections the same thing will happen in Afganistan. We cannot give them a government we like.
If you had read first instead of getting all excited about jumping on any post of mine you might have spared yourself all this misunderstanding.
It was not excitement that prompted me to respond to your post but a inuendo based statement. You need to be less cryptic with your statements and be more direct or do you have something to hide?
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