Are you a liberal or are you a socialist?

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   I'm a conservative moderate. I vote for who I think will do the best job. Otherwise I vote issues. I wanted to give my benchmark so maybe someone can point out which is which, they're the same or non of the above. I fear socialists hide behind a liberal banner. What do you think?

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   sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

   "I fear socialists hide behind a liberal banner."
   
   of corse they do. tomato & tomoto.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thats what I thought.

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   jiberishposted 14 years ago

   Aren't they both the same?

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thats what I thought. How you doing?

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   sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

   Im a conservative moderate as well. I felt i had to vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
   
   To be honest, I have not been overly impressed with Rep/Dem 'final' options for a good long while.

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

   

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      Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL, that made me laugh.
      
      Well if we're talking about socialists hiding behind the guise of 'liberalism', what about full on conservatives hiding behind the guise of 'independant' or 'moderate conservative'.  I run into those all the time.  Me, I consider myself a moderate left winger.  I have voted right wing on issues before.  I like to analyze a situation before I devote myself to a vote.
      
      Analysis of the last Presidential election was easy.  Even if I had supported McCain, his choice of running mate would have driven me away.  Palin is an idiot of the highest caliber, and we don't need another one of those in a high position.

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      Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      As usual, you get right to the crux of the matter Ron.  Same old circle, different thread.

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      Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I was going to respond by starting a thread titled "Are you a conservative or a goat f***er," but the image summed it up nicely

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            And you're such a nice boy too!

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   neither

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   Colebabieposted 14 years ago

   ::walks in, takes a look around, walks back out::
   

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   jiberishposted 14 years ago

   The questions wasn't 'are you a democrate or a republican.'

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      Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Good thing I didn't answer that question then.  Maybe you should actually read what I posted before posting such jibberish.

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   Colebabieposted 14 years ago

   Does anyone know a liberal republican? (whatever the words mean)

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I vote issues and there are some liberal positions I agree with, just not how they go about getting the job done. But I relate better, in gereral, with conservatives.

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         Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         What liberal positions do you agree with?

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Enviroment, not cap & trade, because I believe we need to do some things to clean things up. Healthcare needs to be reformed I just don't want to pay illegals or those who have chosen to not work, key word chosen. I'm a strong supporter of mandatory national service. I believe we need education reform alot of our public schools are not safe and we need to get more middle and lower income kids in college.

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            tony0724posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            none

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    sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

    the presidential election has become such a joke that I have a hard time liking anyone. McCain was the lesser of the evils in my eye, but here in AZ he has completely ignored the border issues that DO need addressed. Did Palin scare me? "you betcha".
    
    But Obama. here comes the pain train. on every level imaginable.
    Heres your "Change". T-"boned".

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       There wasn't a good choice. I knew that if Obama was elected though they'd all be crawling out of the woodwork! Surprise and they're all here!

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          sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          crawlers of all sorts. I agree. Some of these peoples agenda absolutely blows me away.

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Nice. But those are kinda neutral topics anyways. Improve the environment, better healthcare, and better education. I think everyone wants that.

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Those are the issues that seem to be key for this regime.

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Shouldn't they be key for any regime?

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             sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             The economy and the war needs attention first if we're ever going to have money for any thing. Thats the way a liberal would prioritize things, thats why us conservatives think you need to have your heads examined.

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    sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

    Yeah! Thanks for all the lessons!

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    sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

    helping those in need and those who are not able is very attainable.
    
    What a liberal and a conservative deem as needy and unable are two different things.
    
    Conservative- if you are in need, sure we will help you. But we are going to help you get back on your feet so that you can contribute to the big wheel. We want you "in need" for a short period of time.
    
    Liberal- if you are in need, we are going to spoon feed you. We are gonna wipe your butt as well. Take as long as you want, not as long as you need. We don't encourage marriage because if you are married with 12 little "paychecks" guess what, you aren't getting your paycheck. Don't earn your keep, there are plenty of hard working americans out there who are more than willing to pay your keep. Mexico, come on in. We will pay for you too. If you commit crimb, you are safe because our laws protect you- not our 'spoiled' citizens. What ant and grasshopper story?

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       livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Don't forget that you can usually distinguish conservatives from liberals by their halos (liberals usually have devil horns, which, of course, the government paid for).

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          Star Witnessposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          ooooooo  I wanna commit a 'crimb' so I can hear the wise morals of the ant and grasshobber storiez that only the proponentz of the big wheels can tell.

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             Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             LOL....
             
             I don't see how conservatives help a person in need at all?  Isn't it sort of a "you got screwed/messed up... sux for u!" mentality?  Liberalism is the opposite.  I dunno about wiping somebodies ass, but they'll help them when they're in need.
             
             I also don't see how liberals all the sudden don the "devil's horns".  That makes no sense.  Maybe try sticking to actual arguments.  Unlike the ones presented, they tend to imply a lack of stupidity.
             
             I'm not saying we should become a socialist country, but fascism is no better.  Read my posts and you'll realize that I think the best country is run from the center (a good balance of both sides).  Elections are always between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

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                livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Maybe I should...what seems to me to be obvious sarcasm was apparently misinterpreted.

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                   Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Add the <sarcasm> tag, then, jeez!
                   
                   "Why'd the monkey fall out of the tree?  It was dead!"

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                      livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Poe's Law.

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                         Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         Quoth the monkey?

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                            livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                            Dead monkeys can't say anything!

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                               Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               Or can they?

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                                  livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                  Only an evolutionist would suggest that we and dead monkeys can talk to each other.

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    Should've gone with idea #1

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       Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       No self respecting goat would go for that idea Ron.

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          sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          And so quick witted too!

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             Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Something not often found in conservative "circles."

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    olivertwistedposted 14 years ago

    "Are you a liberal or a socialist?" OR Are you an apple or...uuuhhh.....an apple?"

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    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    I'm sure you won't appreciate a thread entitled "Are you a conservative or a fascist". Why must you insist on putting people in such boxes? Most people are a combination of many beliefs.

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       sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       because fascism was never a part of the agenda for the american people. Socialism is.

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          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          it's a misconception. the difference between two are minimal, mostly in finding a scapegoat, and America may become fascist as well as socialist. The key is the total nationalization.

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             Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             BOTH of those are scary thoughts.
             
             As with everything in life, BALANCE IS KEY!

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             Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             And the pope might convert to Judaism

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                Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                We'll talk a few years down the road, when the dust more or less settles, OK?

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                Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                That could happen.  He's already recruiting Anglicans.

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Lighten up! I'm just having fun starting trouble!

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          She asked a valid question. You've generalized me into a few boxes.

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             sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Only because I'm mildly retarded!

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                Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                And I don't like that word. Pretty sure I told you that before. So maybe that was on purpose?

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                Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                MILDLY!? 

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                   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   It's sad but it's all I got!

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                      Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      If you bang your head against the wall, like Jib, you can turn that mild into full blown!

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                         jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         It's a good thing I'm much older than you or I would take offense to that.

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                            Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                            What does the relationship between our ages have to do with you taking offense to something?  I'd like to hope most people, even those around my age, would realize that was a joke...

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                               jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               Exactly!

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       Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Don't worry UW, we love to laugh at him.

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          Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I know that

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    jiberishposted 14 years ago

    <<<<<Banging head against the wall......

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    No need Jib, just make sure your passport is current

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    Len Cannonposted 14 years ago

    Yes!

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    Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago

    Sooooo, what does you being older than me have to do with it?
    
    P.S. You wouldn't be the first person to attempt to insult my age - ask sneako -  (never thought I'd be insulted for being young, lol).

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       jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Just saying that I've been to forums where people automatically get offended... I got the joke.

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    Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago

    Ahhh, but I don't think that is age dependent.
    
    (Edit: Not to be confused with maturity dependent!)

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    Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago

    LOL

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    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Pro, conservatives don't care about helping others? Do some research and see which group donates more to charities.

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       T-Schultzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Only for the tax deduction.

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    Ralph Deedsposted 14 years ago

    Here's a review of a couple of books about the libertarian cult's fairy godmother--for Misha, jiberish, ldt, Aya, et al.
    
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/spl/rands-world.html
    
    And a comment on the fairy godmother by Murray Rothbard
    
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html
    
    Enjoy!
    
    Somebody said recently "What we need is Darwinian Socialism!"

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    garynewposted 14 years ago

    Modern liberals are dangerously close to being socialists.  That's what one of my hubs claims, anyway.

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    Niteriterposted 14 years ago

    Who here can provide a rational, opinion-vacant definition of socialism?

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