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Are you a liberal or are you a socialist?

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    I'm a conservative moderate. I vote for who I think will do the best job. Otherwise I vote issues. I wanted to give my benchmark so maybe someone can point out which is which, they're the same or non of the above. I fear socialists hide behind a liberal banner. What do you think?

  2. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    "I fear socialists hide behind a liberal banner."

    of corse they do. tomato & tomoto.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thats what I thought.

  3. jiberish profile image77
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    Aren't they both the same?

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thats what I thought. How you doing?

  4. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Im a conservative moderate as well. I felt i had to vote for the lesser of 2 evils.

    To be honest, I have not been overly impressed with Rep/Dem 'final' options for a good long while.

  5. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

    http://badexample.mu.nu/archives/lrwcj.jpg

    1. Pr0metheus profile image61
      Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL, that made me laugh.

      Well if we're talking about socialists hiding behind the guise of 'liberalism', what about full on conservatives hiding behind the guise of 'independant' or 'moderate conservative'.  I run into those all the time.  Me, I consider myself a moderate left winger.  I have voted right wing on issues before.  I like to analyze a situation before I devote myself to a vote.

      Analysis of the last Presidential election was easy.  Even if I had supported McCain, his choice of running mate would have driven me away.  Palin is an idiot of the highest caliber, and we don't need another one of those in a high position.

    2. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      As usual, you get right to the crux of the matter Ron.  Same old circle, different thread.

    3. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

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      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I was going to respond by starting a thread titled "Are you a conservative or a goat f***er," but the image summed it up nicely

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          sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And you're such a nice boy too!

  6. Misha profile image74
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    neither smile

  7. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    ::walks in, takes a look around, walks back out::
    smile

  8. jiberish profile image77
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    The questions wasn't 'are you a democrate or a republican.'

    1. Pr0metheus profile image61
      Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Good thing I didn't answer that question then.  Maybe you should actually read what I posted before posting such jibberish.

  9. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Does anyone know a liberal republican? (whatever the words mean)

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I vote issues and there are some liberal positions I agree with, just not how they go about getting the job done. But I relate better, in gereral, with conservatives.

      1. Colebabie profile image61
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        What liberal positions do you agree with?

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          sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Enviroment, not cap & trade, because I believe we need to do some things to clean things up. Healthcare needs to be reformed I just don't want to pay illegals or those who have chosen to not work, key word chosen. I'm a strong supporter of mandatory national service. I believe we need education reform alot of our public schools are not safe and we need to get more middle and lower income kids in college.

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          tony0724posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          none

  10. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    the presidential election has become such a joke that I have a hard time liking anyone. McCain was the lesser of the evils in my eye, but here in AZ he has completely ignored the border issues that DO need addressed. Did Palin scare me? "you betcha".

    But Obama. here comes the pain train. on every level imaginable.
    Heres your "Change". T-"boned".

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      There wasn't a good choice. I knew that if Obama was elected though they'd all be crawling out of the woodwork! Surprise and they're all here!

      1. sooner than later profile image60
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        crawlers of all sorts. I agree. Some of these peoples agenda absolutely blows me away.

  11. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    Nice. But those are kinda neutral topics anyways. Improve the environment, better healthcare, and better education. I think everyone wants that.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Those are the issues that seem to be key for this regime.

      1. Colebabie profile image61
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Shouldn't they be key for any regime?

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          sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          The economy and the war needs attention first if we're ever going to have money for any thing. Thats the way a liberal would prioritize things, thats why us conservatives think you need to have your heads examined.

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    Yeah! Thanks for all the lessons!

  13. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    helping those in need and those who are not able is very attainable.

    What a liberal and a conservative deem as needy and unable are two different things.

    Conservative- if you are in need, sure we will help you. But we are going to help you get back on your feet so that you can contribute to the big wheel. We want you "in need" for a short period of time.

    Liberal- if you are in need, we are going to spoon feed you. We are gonna wipe your butt as well. Take as long as you want, not as long as you need. We don't encourage marriage because if you are married with 12 little "paychecks" guess what, you aren't getting your paycheck. Don't earn your keep, there are plenty of hard working americans out there who are more than willing to pay your keep. Mexico, come on in. We will pay for you too. If you commit crimb, you are safe because our laws protect you- not our 'spoiled' citizens. What ant and grasshopper story?

    1. livelonger profile image87
      livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Don't forget that you can usually distinguish conservatives from liberals by their halos (liberals usually have devil horns, which, of course, the government paid for).

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        Star Witnessposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        ooooooo  I wanna commit a 'crimb' so I can hear the wise morals of the ant and grasshobber storiez that only the proponentz of the big wheels can tell.

        1. Pr0metheus profile image61
          Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          LOL....

          I don't see how conservatives help a person in need at all?  Isn't it sort of a "you got screwed/messed up... sux for u!" mentality?  Liberalism is the opposite.  I dunno about wiping somebodies ass, but they'll help them when they're in need.

          I also don't see how liberals all the sudden don the "devil's horns".  That makes no sense.  Maybe try sticking to actual arguments.  Unlike the ones presented, they tend to imply a lack of stupidity.

          I'm not saying we should become a socialist country, but fascism is no better.  Read my posts and you'll realize that I think the best country is run from the center (a good balance of both sides).  Elections are always between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

          1. livelonger profile image87
            livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Maybe I should...what seems to me to be obvious sarcasm was apparently misinterpreted.

            1. Pr0metheus profile image61
              Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Add the <sarcasm> tag, then, jeez!

              "Why'd the monkey fall out of the tree?  It was dead!"

              1. livelonger profile image87
                livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Poe's Law. smile

                1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Quoth the monkey?

                  1. livelonger profile image87
                    livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Dead monkeys can't say anything!

  14. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

    Should've gone with idea #1

    1. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No self respecting goat would go for that idea Ron.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        And so quick witted too!

        1. Randy Godwin profile image93
          Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Something not often found in conservative "circles."

  15. olivertwisted profile image60
    olivertwistedposted 7 years ago

    "Are you a liberal or a socialist?" OR Are you an apple or...uuuhhh.....an apple?"

  16. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    I'm sure you won't appreciate a thread entitled "Are you a conservative or a fascist". Why must you insist on putting people in such boxes? Most people are a combination of many beliefs.

    1. sooner than later profile image60
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      because fascism was never a part of the agenda for the american people. Socialism is.

      1. Misha profile image74
        Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        it's a misconception. the difference between two are minimal, mostly in finding a scapegoat, and America may become fascist as well as socialist. The key is the total nationalization.

        1. Pr0metheus profile image61
          Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          BOTH of those are scary thoughts.

          As with everything in life, BALANCE IS KEY!

        2. Uninvited Writer profile image82
          Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And the pope might convert to Judaism smile

          1. Misha profile image74
            Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            We'll talk a few years down the road, when the dust more or less settles, OK? smile

          2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
            Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            That could happen.  He's already recruiting Anglicans.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Lighten up! I'm just having fun starting trouble!

      1. Colebabie profile image61
        Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        She asked a valid question. You've generalized me into a few boxes. smile

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          sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Only because I'm mildly retarded!smile

          1. Colebabie profile image61
            Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            And I don't like that word. Pretty sure I told you that before. So maybe that was on purpose?

          2. Pr0metheus profile image61
            Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            MILDLY!?  tongue

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              sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It's sad but it's all I got!

              1. Pr0metheus profile image61
                Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                If you bang your head against the wall, like Jib, you can turn that mild into full blown!

                1. jiberish profile image77
                  jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  It's a good thing I'm much older than you or I would take offense to that.

                  1. Pr0metheus profile image61
                    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    What does the relationship between our ages have to do with you taking offense to something?  I'd like to hope most people, even those around my age, would realize that was a joke...

    3. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Don't worry UW, we love to laugh at him.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
        Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I know that big_smile

  17. jiberish profile image77
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    <<<<<Banging head against the wall......

  18. Misha profile image74
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    No need Jib, just make sure your passport is current smile

  19. Len Cannon profile image88
    Len Cannonposted 7 years ago

    Yes!

  20. Pr0metheus profile image61
    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago

    Sooooo, what does you being older than me have to do with it?

    P.S. You wouldn't be the first person to attempt to insult my age - ask sneako -  (never thought I'd be insulted for being young, lol).

    1. jiberish profile image77
      jiberishposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Just saying that I've been to forums where people automatically get offended... I got the joke.

  21. Pr0metheus profile image61
    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago

    Ahhh, but I don't think that is age dependent.

    (Edit: Not to be confused with maturity dependent!)

  22. Pr0metheus profile image61
    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago

    LOL

  23. habee profile image89
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Pro, conservatives don't care about helping others? Do some research and see which group donates more to charities.

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      T-Schultzposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Only for the tax deduction.

  24. Ralph Deeds profile image71
    Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago

    Here's a review of a couple of books about the libertarian cult's fairy godmother--for Misha, jiberish, ldt, Aya, et al.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/spl/rands-world.html

    And a comment on the fairy godmother by Murray Rothbard

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html

    Enjoy!

    Somebody said recently "What we need is Darwinian Socialism!"

  25. garynew profile image60
    garynewposted 7 years ago

    Modern liberals are dangerously close to being socialists.  That's what one of my hubs claims, anyway.

  26. Niteriter profile image78
    Niteriterposted 7 years ago

    Who here can provide a rational, opinion-vacant definition of socialism?

 
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