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Health care reform

  1. lostgirlscat profile image59
    lostgirlscatposted 7 years ago

    How many different terms can the left come up with, to try to make socialized medicine more palatable to the general public?
    Let's see, I can come up with 3- "public option"," consumer option", and the latest I've heard, the "competitive option."
    Anybody know any more? Do we all feel warm and cozy now that our nanny-state government is going to give us these wonderful "options"? Call it what you will, walks like a duck,talks like a duck, it's still the socialized medicine that has worked sooo well in other countries.

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      Michelle Grooveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I don't want to start an argument - just giving an opinion from one of those countries where socialized medicine has been working for some time now. Of course nothing is ever perfect, but in Australia no-one has to die from lack of medical attention. Also, no-one becomes bankrupt or ends up homeless due to excessive medical expenses. Health care is affordable for most people - you can get top of the line health care for $1500 a year. If people want more specialized care and they can afford top health cover, they are free to seek this out without spending a fortune. However if people are living hand to mouth and have no spare cash, they can still see the doctor and get the medical attention they need. This is humane more than anything else

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Humane?  As in Communism?  Poor people don't deserve healthcare, they should just die.

        1. tksensei profile image59
          tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Is that really what you think?

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
            Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I was filling in for you while you were on break.

            1. tksensei profile image59
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You didn't answer my question. Is that really what you think?

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Of course I did.  Are your spectacles foggy this evening?

                1. tksensei profile image59
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  No, you didn't. Let's try again:

                  Is that really what you think?

                  1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    OK, let's do that.

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                    That's about as slow as I can say it.

            2. tksensei profile image59
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              What exactly do you mean by that?

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Paraphrasing

                1. tksensei profile image59
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Maybe you don't know what that word means. Do you feel you really can't get your point across without insult, dishonesty, and putting words in people's mouths?

                  1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Answer my question!!

    2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Do you even know the origin of the term "socialized medicine" or did Glenbeck forget to cover that today?

  2. tksensei profile image59
    tksenseiposted 7 years ago
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      Michelle Grooveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This report is really great news. Anything that shows improvements in health treatments and outcomes is welcomed, no matter what country it comes from. And hopefully everyone can learn from this. But it can be tempting to pick and choose results and statistics from only a few sources to backup an argument without looking at the full picture. The whole story is what needs to be reviewed.

      1. tksensei profile image59
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Anything?

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          Michelle Grooveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          hmm, good pick up. No not anything - that's a dangerous statement for sure! I know you understand what I was saying though. Good results coming from ethical treatments and genuine studies - is that better?

          1. tksensei profile image59
            tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            How about results coming from competitive and profit-driven business?

  3. wyanjen profile image89
    wyanjenposted 7 years ago

    I'm not sure why something that is an option is a problem.

    I work full time and am insured, so don't be thinking that I am a freeloader. The cost of my premium, co-pays and Rx's is so high that I can't afford to get my medicine every month.

    I wish I had an option that would allow me to buy medication AND groceries in the same damn month. This month I'm going with -- medication. Got a cupboard full of ramen noodles to hold me until December.

    I don't understand why people put a label on an issue, then judge it because of the label.

    I don't mind telling you, the hungrier I get, the more pissed off I'm getting. It's not my fault I got sick, and I have worked my butt off to get myself a career that pays very well. My only other "option" is to drop everything and get public aid. Is that a better option for you guys?

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It will cost even more than it does! They even said it would!

  4. jiberish profile image78
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    Socialized health care was implemented by the Soviet Union in the 1920's The original meaning was confined to systems in which the government operates health care facilities and employs health care professionals. A single payer systems is one in which the government finances health care but is not involved in care delivery.  So far we're not sure what were going to get.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yet the labels continue to be tossed out recklessly...

      Something involving ducks I believe.

  5. jiberish profile image78
    jiberishposted 7 years ago

    I heard from a source a few days ago that the endorsement was imminent and that it will be published by AARP tomorrow. The Associated Press also says its sources are telling the wire service the same thing. 

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/04/aa … -takeover/

  6. tksensei profile image59
    tksenseiposted 7 years ago

    I have no idea. That is not a picture of you (and it is not funny).

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ok, you're the expert..

      on humor lol

      on politics lol lol

      on polite discourse... lol lol lol lol

  7. tksensei profile image59
    tksenseiposted 7 years ago

    *yawn*

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      and witty comebacks........

      1. tksensei profile image59
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'd be happy to discuss the topic whenever you are done being delighted with how precious you consider yourself.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ok, I'll be back in 20 minutes.

 
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