try clicking on start a new hub and put this in a hub...I'm not going to read it because it's in the threads. no offence
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Can someone translate this for me? What?
My country as of the moment is under attack by nations of the world who witnessed the recent police mishandling of a bloody hostage-taking of a busload of around 25 tourists. It was perpetrated by a decorated but disgruntled police officer who was dismissed from military due to his participation in robbery and extortion. He wanted the Ombudsman(trial court) to review his case.
Under full media coverage, he took innocent tourist nationals for his hostage of about 9 hours. The police team that was supposed to rescue the hostages was a bunch of ill-trained men who bungled the negotiation. It failed. 5 Chinese nationals and 3 Canadians nationals were killed. The hostage-taker was gunned down by snipers. This incident tarnished my country's world image. Why do we need this police and what for, anyway?
I served in Police department in early 1972-73 and switched over to civil service. Though the department is not good, there are several people in society who need police treatment. Those who offend others without any reason, make derogatory comments about others, and those who think they are innocent after committing several offences need to be dealt with by police. Society without police is like classrooms without teachers.
It depends on what you rely on police for. For the most part, police forces are reactive rather than proactive. They can also act as a deterrent to crimes like assault and mugging by running patrols, but again luck plays a big role in determining if they actually intercept a mugger or assailant.
Inadvertently, policing may make people lazy about the safety of their person or property and allow criminals to take advantage of that laziness.
One way that communities can overcome this reactive and lackadaisical stance towards safety is through organizations like Neighborhood Watch and other community based solutions. One problem with the Koban style of policing is the expense involved. Public services are notoriously expensive, compared to taking simple steps to secure your person and property. In addition, by emphasizing community involvement, you encourage people to help their neighbors. This sort of thing goes beyond police work and can impact disaster relief, crisis response, etc.
The basic principles of policing is to react on crimes and not to be proactive which will prove very dangerous. Men in uniforms will be very dangerous for lonely going women and people carrying valuable including money. Human temptations will make them squeeze the soft things.
Patrolling of streets is a must to avoid street-fightings and public lawlessness. Dealing with crimes and patrolling the streets are separate. No criminals will come in front of patrolling policemen.
I'm pretty sure that was the point of my post. Although I think that "public" places can do a better job of providing proactive security than public entities. One example I can think of is casinos. Massive amounts of cash in the place, yet they are never knocked over due to the security involved. Well at least here in the States, I'm not sure about the rest of the world.
One thing you don't cover is over-reaching by law enforcement into personal matters. How do you keep police from becoming tyrannical?
You know, the police USE to be about protecting and serving. Now they are nothing but a bunch of trouble causing bullies. I see a cop, I walk the other way. They are verbally abuse, and condensing jerks. I'd like to know, where did all the good police officers go? These young punks nowadays are horrible to work with. I do a lot of volunteer work, and let me tell you- I've even seen police officers arrest a charity event fundriser Chairwoman, over the fact that she asked the police officer (a man) to kindly leave the area roped off for the event. So he arrested the chairwoman instead. It was terrible.
That's because the way things are set up right now cops don't work for anyone. Maybe politicians, and that's a maybe. When you add that to the fact that we have laws governing almost the entirety of our lives, you can pretty much be arrested for just about anything anymore. That's why people distrust cops and don't treat them with respect and cops distrust the populace and treat them with a lack of respect. In fact, I'd say that the amount of trust the police and public have in one another can tell you a lot about how both the police and population act.
Except those who work directly for DA's and FP's. You know the ones who search for evidence based on prosecution theories. That's where it becomes dangerous. This very thing nearly destroyed the FBI in the 80's/90's.
I agree, more to the point the police are limited due to the laws set forth by the government, president, we choose, so thereforth as you are casting blame, remember who you voted for...
Police have their moral duty to protect the civilians and to restrict any crime to make the state clean and corruption free. With or without the uniform a policeman should always do the morale job with their own duty.
We are a nation of laws , and because we are , we need police.
Can you imagine a country like this without them. Even though it's popular today to be a non-conformist, we have to all conform to law. It is ludicist to think we can do without the "New centurions".....
"The police become necessary in human society
Only at that junction in human society
Where it is split between those who have and those who ain’t got"
Too often the question arises of who polices the police? The FBI gets into the act on certain types of police misconduct, but this is the exception, not the rule. I'm convinced based on what I read in the newspapers that criminality is more common in the law enforcement community (police, prosecutors, judges) than in the population at large.
Ralph, I agree. A professor who had decades of experience in the field once told me that the only difference between much of the law enforcement community and criminals was the side of the bars they were on. I'ts a tough profession. Extrememly stressfull. Many become jaded or drunk with power.
This "who polices the police" is a serious issue that Statists will always encounter.
If you simply privatize the forces, then the customers will police the police: if you think they're getting out of hand, then you can just stop paying them / switch companies.
Who knows, maybe there's a better system than the current police force for preventing crime.
I am still sure as hell happy to have police. I have needed them a few times and would have been in big trouble without their help.
We can't have crime, right, we can't. Police or "Cops" are seen as the people to put a stop to crime. So, we kinda need police for that reason. However, police do need an attitude change, police of today and perhaps even yesterday seem to be very power-hungry, and don't listen to anyone.
This sounds like a question that should have been answered for this person before starting the first grade of grammar school.
Why do we need Police?
Because there is a lot of STUPID out there! And it seems to reproduce at a faster rate than SMART!
Hay i love the police. Sting at his best if you ask me. i mean hes still good now but once you name the band your name. you jump the shark in my opinion. but i digress ,
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