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Impeachment of a President

  1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago

    Impeachment of a President
        One would think that the impeachment of a president is not conducive in showing him support.”Give him a chance,” people say. President Obama, to be exact, has been in office for a year now. He has done a lot of damage in that year. I have seen not one promise made come to fruition. When a president is elected, he is elected based on what he proposed during the presidential campaign. When a president is voted into office he takes an oath to serve and protect the people of the United States of America. I have seen the contrary during President Obama’s term so far.
    Before President Obama took office, while he was campaigning for the presidency, promises of transparency, excessive pork barrel spending would be stopped and spending posted online for the people of America to see. In addition, any plans of change made by his new administration would also be posted. Full transparency, said the president. Promises of ensuring the unemployment rate would not increase above 8.2% were also made.
    The president has done nothing he promised. What he has done is worsen the economy. Increase our debt. Put America in danger by bringing the terrorists into our country from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Nothing is transparent. For example; the republicans were locked out of the conference room while the senate debated over the health care bill. Another point of reference, the people of America don’t want the health care bill, yet the House still passed it. The president pushed it and the people of America ignored. The president made sure to appoint everyone into his cabinet that would agree with him weather it was wrong or right. When someone in his cabinet disagreed they were fired, Van Jones for example. Something is rotten in Denmark. The fact that we believed in him enough to vote him into office says that we trusted he would do what he said during his campaign. However, for this administration and this president’s promises have been ignored and so have the people of America. We have asked the president on several occasions “Where is the transparency?” ,“why is the unemployment rate now over 10.2%?”,” did you know in some states unemployment is at 13 % or higher?”, ”where are the shovel ready jobs?”, “Why are you passing the health care bill that we don’t want?”  Yet these questions are still left unanswered and unaddressed.
    Impeachment is like firing an employee who doesn’t follow the rules he agreed to upon their hire. By law, an employer must give an employee three verbal notices and three written notices and if the problem(s) are not corrected or rule(s) are not adhered to, the employee is then fired. Why does the president not get treated the same way? He does work for the people of the United States of America and we do pay his salary. Just as if he were an employee of the U.S.A
    I still see no recompense for what the president promised upon taking the presidency seat, nor do I see action being taken against him for all the deception. As a result of how President Obama is running the country he is causing our economy to fall into hyperinflation. We are in debt to other countries now, a debt we are unable to pay back. This will inevitably cause World War III; which will be a nuclear war. Yet no measures have been taken to impeach our president. He doesn’t listen to reason, he doesn’t answer our questions. I believe, the only way he will listen to the people in which voted for him, is to form a petition to impeach the president. Maybe then our questions will be answered and the president will sit up and take notice

    1. Friendlyword profile image61
      Friendlywordposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Welcome to HubPages!
      You're among friends here. A lot of us here have the same grasp of the facts that you have. Before I go any further...I dont think any of your criticism of Barack Hussein Obama has anything to do with his race or his religion. You laid out all of the Articles of Impeachment for Barack Hussein Obama very well. No here could argue your facts.  Your charges were honest, truthful, well researched and very convincing. You should send that Petition to Congress as soon as you can.  Get Dick Cheney to help you with the charges you may have overlooked. With you and Dick Cheney stating the undeniable facts about Barack Hussein Obama to Congress; I dont think there's any question as to whether he will be impeached, and removed from office. Great Job!

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        hehehehehehehehehehe

      2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you very much I have been doing alot of research prior to posting.

        1. Friendlyword profile image61
          Friendlywordposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          OH MY! Read it again please.

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            Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol  I'm wondering now if he's 'one of ours' just posing as a Glennbeckatroll.  Seeing how many wingnuts he can get to go along with it.

            1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
              Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              https://www.cequs.com/serendipity/uploads/graphics_bugs-bunny_04.jpg

              mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Could be

            2. Friendlyword profile image61
              Friendlywordposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I admit it. I felt so sleazy after WeStand4Freedom said THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I thought the Dick Cheney comment would make it obvious I talking about someone that lies with no concern about whether or not you catch him in his lies.

              1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Aparently I misunderstood your sarcasm. If Dick Cheney is  a liar What the H  is Obama? Or are you an Oba-ite, that makes excuses for him after he makes a mistake w/o his teliprompter?

                Or how about the many times clips have been shown last year that contradict the promises he made. Wingnuts need Bolts, to be anchored. what is your excuse. Where is your Anchoring to secure the comments of discussed toward me. It completely blows my mind that anyone no matter who or where they came from cannot admit that it is just plain not right especially the president to say he is going to do one thing and go completely the opposite direction especially during a delicate economy. My must be one of those people who are comfy cosy and have no worries or CARES about the rest of the country, because hey your ok right?

                1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                  WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
                  1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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                  Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Sorry, Ma'am.  I still think you should be spending energy towards your aim--the petition--rather than going on and on here.  What purpose does it serve?

                  1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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      rayandmandyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Just remember..Obama is not the only one making ALL the decisions...there were problems existing before he took office. Most of all,his political views are shattered because certain people disagree with it and make it impossible for his visions to become effective.  How can one man fix all the problems we had before he became president?(Why didn't that president fix it?) Why is the previous president not the blame for current economical problems that transferred over to Obama?  How can 1 man fix all the problems if there are various opinions and beliefs contrary to his? Do you really believe that one man is the cause of all the problems we are having as a nation? First of all, we shouldn't have been in the war we are currently in.It was not our war to begin with.  Our previous presidents were more worried about fighting other people's wars and forgot about our economic situation. So why should Obama be impeached? If we were to impeach Obama, then the next president would have the same situations to deal with and he/she would have to go through the same scrutiny as Obama. Impeachment of Obama is irrelevant!

    3. James Agbogun profile image78
      James Agbogunposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This volume should have been enough to make a Hub to fill the empty space of the zero Hub. I think more informations on how to impeach Obama would make a lot of Hubs. Thank you.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Your right when i figure out how i will

        1. readytoescape profile image60
          readytoescapeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Article II Section 4 of the Constitution.

          "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

          1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            ACORN, Bribery, illegal voting etc. Thank for that fact, it is nice to know the actual facts. The Wade's in Acorn, Rev. Wright and the like I do think something is rotten in Denmark

            1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It has not been proven fully yet, but is definately something that needs looking into.

    4. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think it would be a great exercise.  A chance to prove all the opinions that are being circulated would be a great thing for the country to see. A tremendous amount of energy and expense would have to be employed and the time would greatly encumber congress but what else do they have to do.

      The only problem is the result would be that nothing would happen other than exposing the right wings agenda and that is already quite evident. The inuendo would be priceless from the birther conspiracy to the socialist agenda.  The real religion of the president from his muslim roots to his racist christian beliefs nurtured by Jeremiah White.  What a dog and pony show it would be.  Great evening news fodder and countless lawsuits would ensue.

      A whirly twirley circus sponsored by your friendly neighborhood right wing nuts.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Everything you say is definately true, but as far as the right wing nut comment, I am only about what is wrong and right and about freedom for all, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , UNITED WE STAND Right?

    5. Himitsu Shugisha profile image75
      Himitsu Shugishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This is the most ridiculous one-sided argument I have ever seen in my life. If I were you, I would be ashamed to have my name next to it. What did you think that this President or any president would come into office, wave a magic wand and all that ails the world would be good again? Whether you agree with his politics or not, what he is trying to do is fix a broken system that is breaking America and bankrupting families all across this country. By the way, last I checked, nothing has been signed yet. Guantanamo bay was a black mark to the rest of the world based on some of the anti-American tactics we employed there and closing it was a good idea. Should there have been a better plan as to how to do it? Sure, maybe, but I don't get paid to make that decision, nor do I have all the facts that the President and his people have. The economy?! Really, do I really have to explain to you how the economy works? We ALL knew that things were going to get worse before they got better. Every expert expected that we wouldn't see a serious turnaround until mid-to-late 2010, it takes time, and he's only been in a year!! It must be real nice to sit in your little box and complain about someone that is trying to do something to help this country, while you yourself do nothing - but talk with blinders on.

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      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      hmm

      i don't think he has done anything impeachable (unlawful). that seems really over the top, actually.

    7. Lady_E profile image80
      Lady_Eposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Perfectly written... and I hope you'll be stepping in his shoes!

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you for your comment, no I will not be walking a mile in his shoes, nor would i ever want to. But he did and what is  he going to do about it?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Let me get this straight.......You want to impeach him so he will then take notice and straighten up?


      Hmppph.   I simply want him impeached so that he'll resign or be ousted, period.
      I've been calling for that ever since he took office, because he spouted his agenda to "fundamentally change" America into something radically WRONG.    And the fools in Congress are letting him get by with it.

      In my opinion, it's too late for Obama to change his positions toward doing the right thing for America.   He needs to step down.   All the Tea Parties and the other voices of reason have been ignored by him.    Time for him to be FIRED.  Let him then go home to Chicago, back to his gangster lifestyle.   Oops I mean his OLD gangster lifestyle,  not his new White House gangsterism.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Tea parties and other voices of reason?

        LMAO ROFL

      2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Love your View.

    9. chigoiyke profile image59
      chigoiykeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Allow stuff to get over you man. Do you think Mccain will do better?/ Just allow stuff to get over you. Did you canvass for the impeachment of Bush during those hell days. Obama is trying, putting things in place and with time, you will feel the impact. Dont set the bar too high for him ok. He didn't make the economy the mess it is today(get me wrong if you like). The last line is, many will not do better in this condition. Just get over it

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      Writer Riderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hey, the person who should have been impeached was Bush (more than any other president). If we didn't get him, you can't have Obama. Sorry.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        There are several president's that should have been impeached and have not and I understand the process now better than when i posted this Topic , how to impeach, the cost to impeach and the ground's of which impeahment is implemented.

        Im simply upset that here again another president who didn't do what he said he would do during his campaigning. Obama was voted in because he was real good at taking the vulnerablities of the people and using it to his benefit to make promises he had no intention of keeping. He had his own agenda that he didn't let anyone know about. Big Government, if the people knew his agenda, he would not have been voted in office although he only won by 5 votes.The last president that tried Big Government failed and Obama is trying it again, why will it work now and it didn't work in prior administrations? You know what, This is what happens when the people of america don't have work, and are angry because they might loose everything they worked all their lives for. You will  have, such as Hubpages and the like, many rantings on the president's progress or lack there of . Nothing personal  just a bunch of angry americans.

    11. cheaptrick profile image63
      cheaptrickposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Obama is a Distraction,someone we can focus our frustrations on.
      Find out who has there hand up his ass and you will understand why the world is the way it is.

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        Writer Riderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That may be true.

        1. Jewels profile image81
          Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Now you're talking.  Best the right group be tared and feathered.

    12. Abe Normal profile image60
      Abe Normalposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Deleted

      1. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That's only because he is.

        1. Bovine Currency profile image61
          Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          We agree.

      2. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That's only because it is.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
          Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Bolton is a warmongering neocon asshole.

          1. tksensei profile image62
            tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            That is not correct.

            1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
              Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              That settles it little doggie.

              1. tksensei profile image62
                tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Think you could do without the insults?

                1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  pot/kettle

            2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
              Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, it is. Bolton is one of the neocons who supported our foolish, unnecessary, costly invasion of Iraq. Lately he's been advocating bombing of Iran by U.S. or Israel. He went a long way toward destroying respect for the U.S. around the world when he was ambassador to the United Nations, as one of Bush's many incompetent appointees. Chew on that mangey little opinionated doggie.

              1. tksensei profile image62
                tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Do you think you could do without the insults?

                1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                  Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Why don't you go and chase your tail or pick fleas?

                  1. marinealways24 profile image60
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    You have something against tails?

              2. tksensei profile image62
                tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Our invasion of Iraq was not foolish or unnecessary, and bombing Iran may well turn out to be entirely necessary.

                1. sdmairs profile image59
                  sdmairsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  This opinion is based on what cherry-picked intelligence analysis or regional study? OIC, you heard it on a radio talk show. Well then it MUST be true.

                  1. tksensei profile image62
                    tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Based on my reading of the situation.

    13. Siotosh profile image61
      Siotoshposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Impeachment can not like anything, what crimes has Obama committed. The people that should be Impeached are the criminals fabricated a lie to go to war. If Obama should face impeachment his only crime would be protecting crimes like Bush.
      The promises of transparency LOL any one thinks that America society can be
      transparent is living in story book land.
      These terrorist were trained by America and some were trained in America they were not trained in Cuba. This is the chickens coming home to roost, the Obamas will need than two terms to clear up Bush's mess. What it would take is four terms, I only hope Michelle will step forward, Michelle Obama the first woman President and a BLACK one at that.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No racist emotions there huh? Is your racist ideas emotional or logical?

      2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        The fact that OBAMA promised Full Transparency is the funny part. Not the fact that i restated what he promised.

        1. Siotosh profile image61
          Siotoshposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Full Transparency should mean that, the photos of mentally disturbed American servicemen abusing Iraqis, be made public.

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol Why, to make people criticize Bush more to take attention off how bad Obama is doing?

    14. SparklingJewel profile image65
      SparklingJewelposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Back to the issue...

      Obama is a tool just like every other president since the inception of the Federal Reserve...and in some aspects, many before even that.
      I am sure he was sincere about his campaign promises...there just weren't enough others willing to change their ways that would support him in doing the big things that needed to be done to oust the elitists that run the world economy/governments...so he was bought out like all the rest...enticed by money, pride, and popularity...it's disgusting.
      Patriots rising to honor the Constitution are our only hope to save the sanctity of our 4 sacred freedoms.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I hate to say it, but this sounds about right smile

      2. Ron Montgomery profile image59
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Sarah Palin

    15. vrajavala profile image61
      vrajavalaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      there is an other method, called "quo warranto" that can be used to remove him. You see, he has the majority in the House and Senate. The Democrats won't impeach him. "Quo warranto" means "by whose authority" do you sit in office? He was never eligible for office. he even stated on his website, fightthesmears that he was born a British subject.
      So this is how he will be removed, and, BTW, none of the sllly laws  that he signed will be legal. In fact, his name will b we completely erased as ever having been a President, because he is a "Usurper".

      1. Jewels profile image81
        Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Oh brother!  Your source of information needs attention.

      2. Ron Montgomery profile image59
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Sarah Palin

    16. Deidra26 profile image60
      Deidra26posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Wow! I see you made your point. I hear your complaints and dismay with the current president, but am uncertain of what else could be done to make the immediate situation any better. Let's be honest he has not been in office for a year as yet so i think this conversation is a bit premature! I think he mentioned that Afgahnistan is the war to fight- he appears to be taking that up. I see that healthcare has advanced this year that any previous times; I see the stock market not declining as rapidly as a year ago- mark it, the unemployment figure is high but generally in a recession it is the last thing to show real changes. The reality is that changes require patience-the problems this country is facing have been decades in the making.Furthermore, the President may not have that much power because after all he still needs to depend on congress to enact laws- am certain you do know how the process works, right? Some pressure should be placed on Congress to do more work...

      I think President Bush was given two terms- i am not certain i heard too much conversation about impeaching him. This President was handed the whole mess-a collapsed economy; unemployment on the rise; the disparity between rich and poor; social inequality etc. It does take time and he cannot correct decades of mess in less than a year. There is an election in 2012- if you feel like nothing has changed and things have gotten worse you know what to do! I do not agree with everything this President does, but i think credit should be given where it is due. After all, he did sign that equal pay act; a new legislation that make certain crimes against gay crimal; the economy actually grew 2% recently; unemployment reduced slightly; stock market has stabilized; etc. Now, what exactly could be done to improve the conditions without actual spending? I am almost 100% certain that tax cuts will not cover things like- the military; hurricanes- for natural disasters; things that majority of the public actually rely on the government for. Why not ask the opposition party what's their plan for the future? What would they do differently? What exactly has this President done that is outrageous and warrants an impeachment after being sworn in office i believe on January 20th? Why is it that this President is expected to have fulfilled all the promises made in a campaign- wasn't he elected for like 4 years?

      The troubles of a country whether it be social, economical, political or otherwise is hardly ever made in a day, month or year- usually decades! The problems are only now visible so time and patience are critical. People have power- that is, voice their concerns and vote- no change or improvement then you elect someone whom you think will fulfill your expectations faster...

      1. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        It was constant, and accompanied by further nonsense about arresting him and such.

      2. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        The new mantra of followers of The Obama, "Yes we can! - Give him time!"


        I never get an answer as to when it is ok to hold him accountable.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          So far he hasn't lied to get us into a war.  He hasn't authorized torture or illegal wiretaps....

          You're right.  He's pretty worthless.

          Bunch of frickin Sarahs.

        2. Jewels profile image81
          Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Why didn't you hold Bush accountable?  That's really what confuses me.  He gets you into a trillion dollar debt and you turn the other cheek - what's that about?

          1. tksensei profile image62
            tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Who says I didn't?

          2. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I find it funny how anyone that loves Obama always uses Bush to try to make them feel better about Obama. Is this logical to you?

            1. Pr0metheus profile image60
              Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Actually, that wasn't used to 'make [Jewels] feel better about Obama'.  I'm pretty sure most of us realize that he isn't doing as terrible of a job as most conservatives believe he is.  He's simply dealing with a shattered wartime economy created by... BUSH.

              In this case, though I think it was more to make a point.

              Hypocrisy is all too common.

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                lol Are you on the left as well? What things do you agree with Obama on so far? Who taught you what all the conservatives believe and that they all believe the same thing?

              2. Siotosh profile image61
                Siotoshposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Conservatives just don't get it, and that's a term the choose very often. What they forget to say is that they hijacked a socialist slogan from: http://twitter.com/ispear Things was perfect during the Bush Presidency a booming economy, with the lowest unemployment figures and the best GDP in resent history. When Obama took office, he inherited the strongest economy in the world. The housing market was also booming and the banks were in its healthiest state. I have been won over by the conservatives argument LOL

            2. Jewels profile image81
              Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It's more in response to how people can't understand the amount of work it would take to undo the mess the USA is in.  Obama, or any government for that matter, is expected to fix the mess in 5 minutes.  That's what I find ridiculous.  We the people of America seem to have lost some sense of perspective on how hard it is going to be to save America.  Impeachment?  Bush is who needed to be impeached over Haliburton.  Conflicts of interest within a government administration are cause for dismissal.  Disturbing.

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                A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Conflicts of interest are cause for dismissal? No its not! Its been more than 5 minutes since the Obamagod was inaugurated and he has made things worse! How after knowing this fact can you believe he can make it better?

                1. Jewels profile image81
                  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  well why isn't it cause for dismissal?  You guys allow your government to piss in their own pockets and sleep with corporate America, at your expense.  What kind of people are you?

                  Of course it's going to get worse.  And you guys hate change, as do most people.  You think you can click your fingers and make the problems go away.  Where is your common sense?

                2. Jewels profile image81
                  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  The writing was already on the wall years ago.  You were going to take a huge nosedive and voila.  It's not Obama who can save you.  Y'all need an attitude adjustment.  Now go to your room and clean it up. lol

              2. tksensei profile image62
                tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                "YES WE CAN!" "GIVE HIM TIME!" "BUT HOW LONG?" "WE WON'T SAY!!!"

                1. Jewels profile image81
                  Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  A trillion dollar debt is a lot to fix.  How long do you think it should take tk?

                  1. tksensei profile image62
                    tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    You tell me. You're the one saying we shouldn't rush the poor dear.

  2. fishtiger58 profile image82
    fishtiger58posted 7 years ago

    Well said.

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What do you think about putting together an impeachment petition to get him out of office?

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yawn. If he invades Iraq, and gives all the contracts to his vice-president, if he ignores subpoenas, if he tells Americans Saddam Hussein caused the World Trade Center attacks when Saddam was himself a target of al Qaeda, then you can do it. Otherwise, well, yaawwn.

      2. Army Infantry Mom profile image60
        Army Infantry Momposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'd sign it !!!! smile

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    Did you vote for him?

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I certainly DID NOT vote for Barack Hussein Obama

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        TK Clone

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          Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Nah.  Too verbal (such that it is).  hahaha.

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
            Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            It is clearly him.  The number of hubs is a clue.

        2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What is a TK Clone?

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            Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio, er, WeStand...

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You're my Hero! I love you!

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Going Gay?

          1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Hardly

      3. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Please give up this old, hackneyed, trick of including Obama's middle name as if to imply he is a Muslim, and as if to imply that being a Muslim is automatically bad anyway.

        Yes, presumably his Dad was a Muslim, or something, or else why else would he have the name. So what. You insult the hundreds of thousands of American-born American citizens who are Muslim every time you do: stop it; it is rude, and it is disrespectful of the principle that all American citizens are deserving of respect no matter what their background. Doesn't America stand up for freedom, including the freedom to be any damn religion yu want: or would you prefer a totalitarian system that tells people what to do? You spit on America's tradition of giving people the right to live their lives however they want, every time you do this.

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          sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Where does it say that? I never read anything like that. Does that apply to gays and illegals too?

          1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Beats me. I'm not American. I just figured that, as the world's first "true" democracy, you would have a tradition whereby all people were deserving of respect. Are you seriously debating this? I've lived in three (other) democracies, and this is a basic principle in all of those -- you can't really be saying it's not a founding principle of the U.S... surely...

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              sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Yeah, but we don't actually do that. We have much more fun disrespecting each other and nobody likes liberals anyway. When they quit bathing to save water and to protect the Greater Creek Minnow. It became hard to respect someone that smelled like that. You know what I mean? (No I'm a butthead:))

              1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
                AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Bathing is for suckers

        2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Please give up this old, hackneyed, trick of including Obama's middle name as if to imply he is a Muslim, and as if to imply that being a Muslim is automatically bad anyway.

          Yes, presumably his Dad was a Muslim, or something, or else why else would he have the name. So what. You insult the hundreds of thousands of American-born American citizens who are Muslim every time you do: stop it; it is rude, and it is disrespectful of the principle that all American citizens are deserving of respect no matter what their background. Doesn't America stand up for freedom, including the freedom to be any damn religion yu want: or would you prefer a totalitarian system that tells people what to do? You spit on America's tradition of giving people the right to live their lives however they want, every time you do this.

          I am simply stating the mans full name , i am not racist in any way. I am simply stating that his actions would lead one to believe that he has some muslim beliefs that don't interact well w/ what this country was founded. Freedom. Everytime, anyone talks ill of the president they play the race card, because it is easy, instead of accepting that he is screwing up the country worse than it already was. He proposed many things that would have improved our economy, but none of those promises were kept, that has nothing to w/ race , creed or color , it has to do w/ his own personal agenda. he is the only one w/ that knowledge God Bless this Country , and keep us safe from this president. He is intentionally ruining our country.

          1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Well Islam is not a race, but I get the general idea. And overall it is true that saying any criticism of Obama is racism is just silly. And dangerous: it is essential to criticize the president, as I said above (be nice if the media did a bit more of it with Bush -- probably the US media is being too soft on Obama too now - perhaps the news media is just too soft in general: you should see the BBC attack dogs going for it, by contrast.)

            It is also true that a president's religion may influence him. Bush wouldn't go for stem cell research; perhaps that is an infringement of people's liberties who could benefit from the stem cell research. Obama seems to have been a Christian (I mean, he went/goes to church; I don't know too many Muslims who do that...). So it is relevant what a president's religion is, and it could lead to infringement of freedoms, it's true.

            However, I am completely mystified about this suggestion that your freedoms are at risk under Obama. I mean, maybe he's making a pig's ear of the economy, maybe he's not (I certainly don't see much new regulation of the SOBS on Wall St. who messed it up, for example). But taking away freedoms? Don't get you, I am afraid

        3. kateperez profile image75
          kateperezposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Just slightly curious:  How many times did George W. Bush get called dubya?  Isn't that a bit condescending and to imply he was a hick? 

          Obama is or is not Muslim.  Does not matter.  What does matter is that he is not what I perceived him to be.  No, I did not vote for him, but I knew in October of last year that he was going to be elected.  It was obvious.  Even when my 5 year old kindergarten grandson voted in school, he voted for Obama.  "Why?" I asked him.  His reply was that he knew who he was. 

          I do believe that he was elected because people knew who he was and not for his promises.  However, in good faith, I thought to give him a chance.  Every time I hear about problems it is finger pointing.  Every time I hear about transparency it seems to be giving us transparent info of the old administration, and I believe our author is right.  He is OUR employee.  We should know what he is doing when it comes to our money, and every dime in the government till is your money and mine (and China's).  I have the right to decide how my money is being spent.  Don't you agree?  Would you let your bank take thousands of dollars out of your bank account and go buy a house for some poor people who are illegal imigrants and tell you it's your duty and the imigrants' right?  Do you not agree that there has to be better checks and balances?

          I just want something done that is popular, like stuffing this healthcare reform bill down the basin and really do reform, something we can all agree on.  Heck, there's facebook and twitter, they can ask us for ideas.  We have them.  Then they get some clerk to tally up all the ideas and the 10 best and most popular become the bill.

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
            Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Sarah Palin

          2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You hit that Nail on the head! Good Job! FYI, the profile pic, i used represents the generation that will inherit the debt that is racking up daily

        4. nekros729 profile image61
          nekros729posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I see Islam as something similar to the old Catholic church. Most Muslims are well meaning, and the big guys in control often feed them lies. This does not change the fact that the Koran teaches violence that is quite unacceptable. Muslims in middle eastern countries are very family oriented people and many missionaries say they feel safer in places like Jordan and Israel than the USA. There are of course always exceptions within the nations. Islam the religion, I am strongly against, the people, not at all. As we are talking about Obama. There is more and more evidence that he is Muslim. The part that bothers me is not that he is a Muslim, but that he concealed it and said he was a Christian during his campain(He didn't even go to a nice church lol).

        5. Sara Tonyn profile image59
          Sara Tonynposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Great post. I can't believe some people still stoop to using Obama's middle name as an insult.

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol Skip right over mine. I understand.

            1. Sara Tonyn profile image59
              Sara Tonynposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You don't understand diddly-squat. I simply didn't get to your post yet. Sorry, but you're not a priority.  lol

            2. Siotosh profile image61
              Siotoshposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              No need to be alarmed at the inclusion of Obama's middle by the Christian Conservative Republicans. As a man of colour he is a God, and greater than Jesus that is supposed to, make miracles happen. Taking them serious is not something anyone should do. Many of them are driven by so much hate, if you notice many are loosing sleep. I sleep, wake and do other things, and they are still hubbing LOL. They have no policies to offer nor a way out of the problems created by Bush in his two terms in office. As a black person nor matter what job you do, from Broom Technician to President, you have to work ten times as hard. What a great white woman that educate her child to sit in such a great office. My greatest RESPECT

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Do you hate me because I am white?

          2. tksensei profile image62
            tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            And I can't believe some people are trying to make someone's actual name off limits.

            1. Sara Tonyn profile image59
              Sara Tonynposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I don't see anyone doing that. I only see people pointing out that it's wrong to use it to insult him, Muslims and every person with common sense.

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                lol you don't see anything you don't want to see. Only what your faithful eye's choose to see. Believe!

                1. Sara Tonyn profile image59
                  Sara Tonynposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Yawn. Look in the mirror.

              2. tksensei profile image62
                tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                And everytime someone uses his full name that is the cry, hence my comment.

                1. Sara Tonyn profile image59
                  Sara Tonynposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  So people are wrong point out that it's insulting? But it's okay to continue the insult?

                  1. tksensei profile image62
                    tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    What insult? It's his name.

                2. pylos26 profile image76
                  pylos26posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  shucks...

            2. aguasilver profile image88
              aguasilverposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              "would you prefer a totalitarian system that tells people what to do?"

              Errr.... surely if your President is a Muslim with an agenda, or if in any case the Muslims gain control of your country, you would have a 'totalitarian system that tells people what to do' indeed from reading the homeland security act you already have the foundation for such a state.

              No matter how liberal someone is, it's impossible to deny that for good or bad you have a war being raged against MUSLIM fanatics and there are more than a few of them, even in your own military as recently demonstrated.

              Does anybody feel threatened by Christians, or the Buddhists, or Hindus', Jews or indeed any other religion?

              1. Siotosh profile image61
                Siotoshposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                The war is not about Muslim fanatics, it's about two families that drag the world into their their dispute The Christian and Muslim Mafia. Religion is not a threat, if a person wants to believe God is a Stone, that's up to them. That also goes to anyone that choose not to believe. You can not impose you way of life on to others whether you call it democracy or Christianity.

        6. lizistanton profile image59
          lizistantonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          To use Mr. Obama's middle name is not a trick.  It is his name. If it has connotations, so be it.  What kind of politically correct nonsense requires that we abjure use of someone's name? It is insane.  Stop political correctness.  If I don't like what you say, it is my right and obligation to inform you.  If you don't like what I say, the tables are turned and you are obligated to inform me.  There is also the option of ignoring what is too trivial to address.

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
            Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Damn, and you had a fan for a few minutes.  Did Sarah Palin become YOUR ghost writer?

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        sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You mean Obama BinLaden. lol I wouldn't be surprised in Obama is BinLaden.  Now wouldn't that be some shite! yikes

        1. Army Infantry Mom profile image60
          Army Infantry Momposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You Tube Video - Is Obama really Osama bin Laden-
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcxhcMyn8rU
          Very Kewl vid !!! hehehe

          1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
            Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this



            Wow! Nothing like scientific evidence. And the music was great, too!
            Thanks, MOM!

  4. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
    AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago

    It's good, and important, to be critical of the president, whoever he is -- you should always criticize all of your politicians mercilessly: it is your job as a citizen.

    Hyperinflation leading to World War three... Ooookkkaaaaay...

    You can't go impeaching the president after just one year, and for doing a generally bad job: they all do a bad job, frankly; who ever heard of a president who didn't screw up -- has never happened.

    Of course, sometimes a president accumulates, over eight years, such an immensely gigantic mess of a legacy that perhaps he reaches the watermark whereby impeachment really seems sensible as an option... can't think of any presidents like that in recent memory of course ;-)

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah understandably so, but is it right for children to go around blaming their parents because they are too lazy to get a job, do drugs and amount to nothing meanwhile the parents who were good parents that took care of teaching self respect, morals and the like are looking at each other in awe. Yet Children still play to blame game. We are where we are and blaming prior presidents for the current issues at hand will get us no where. president Obama said while campaigning, he was gonna fix it all, I see none of that all i see is a meglomaniac looking to seek another 4 years in office to completely take away the freedoms WE ALL ENJOY.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Indeed I partially agree; in fact it might be argued that Clinton kicked off this whole financial mess, not Bush (not that Bush fixed it). I was talking about the mess in Iraq.

        (I don't agree with the "taking away freedoms" part. That is absurd. Please; have more respect for the American soil that grants you freedoms that make so much of the world jealous; your freedoms are going nowhere)

        1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I believe that Obama's agenda is to try to take away our Freedoms and make us a communist /marcist or the like country. Why else would he be apologizing to the world even though we have help many countries countless times. For what do we have to apologize for , kind of a contradiction don't you think

          1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Also, I believe Clinton Started the housing collapse by mandating that everyone own a home no matter if they can afford it. it is the american dream yadayadayada, yes it is , but a down payment of some sort should have been mandated or ownership of the land.

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Who is he apologising to - not with you; I never heard him apologise.

              The day America becomes Marxist I'll eat all of my hats with ketchup. If that is what keeps you up at night, get some new worries. America is the last place on earth that will ever go Communist. The very idea...

              As to Clinton starting it all, I think we can agree that Clinton started it, Bush continued it, and Obama is still letting the foxes run the henhouse: a bipartisan effort...

              1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You seriously haven't heard him aplogize to Europe, China, The Middle East etc?

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      Jawa Lunkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      hahaha...I'm not a lover of either party, but the whole "It's only bad 'cause the last guy" thing really has played itself out LOL

      It's like when you call a plumber to come fix your pipes, and no matter who you get they all say the same thing.."I don't know who worked on this last, but they didn't know what the hell they were doing."

      LOL

      Part of becoming president is accepting the responsability for whatever state the country is in...that's why you're running.

      Blaming the last guy is redundant simply becuase they complained about the last guy all through thier campaign, so it's not like they didn't know what they were getting into.

      Anyway, it was the last presidents fault, he inherited the problems from the previous, and so on...I say we blame who is really at fault here...

      Washington, you jerk!

      Now I have to get back to building Robo-pres 5000 so he will be ready for unveiling at the next elections.

      Just in time for me to take over the ... I mean in time for us to vote for a good president.



  5. Ron Montgomery profile image59
    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

    Sarah Palin

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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hahaha.  Endless here lately. wink

    2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You Got that Right.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image93
        Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        There was never any doubt, was there Ron?

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      Ghost32posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Twice elected President of the United States of America, in 2012 and 2016....

      Source:  FHGP, (Future History Guaranteed Predictions), Presidential Series.

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Stop that nonsense Ron. Her turn will come soon enough.

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What is that suppose to mean?

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    Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

    this would have been better as a hub...I don't read long posts like this sorry

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Simply put, I am afraid of our country loosing it's freedom, because a president claimed while campaigning he was gonna change things for the better and he has done nothing but blame Pres. Bush and hasn't done anything to fix the problem. If he were an employee, he would have been fired. I am trying to  file a petition to impeach this president

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        But "freedom" ? -- I don't get the connection

        1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          As i clarified below approx 13 minutes ago. Big Government means we work for them they don't work for us. I don't want to have the freedoms our forefathers fought for taken away from us, pres. Obama has proven that he cares ZERO what we think about what he does. That is not what he claimed while campaigning , I understand president and lawyers lie, But the economy is so delicate and he his putting us in more debt w/ other countries that we cannot pay  back, the only way he can pay it back is to make the people of america pay higher taxes.

          That is why i say he is ruining our country rather than fixing the problem and eventually our freedoms will be taken away, because we will be doing as the government says, paying what the government says, getting paid what the government says, on and on and on.

          1. sdmairs profile image59
            sdmairsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Does it seem like the sky is falling too? I think it wise to question the value of any contributor who sees everything an administration does as wrong. At some point we're probably just looking at a good old-fashioned sore loser.

            1. Presigo profile image60
              Presigoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Facts are facts. Millions of people have lost their job this year. His policies are flawed, because they rest in ideology rather than pragmatism. Solving our problems does not require one to socialize by taking over businesses, borrowing huge amounts of money and attempting to take over health care. These are facts and his party affiliation means nothing, his ideology is scary, scarier yet is his blind determination to push it ahead.

              1. Bovine Currency profile image61
                Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                It was not Obama policy that sent America broke.  It was not Obama that lost jobs.  There are would be hard working people out there and that has naught to do with Obama.  You really believe free health care and social housing will have a negative impact?

                Get real.  Jump off the bandwagon, its losing gas.

                1. Presigo profile image60
                  Presigoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  His policies not only perpetuate our situation, his ideology threatens to end this country as we have known it, socialism is not an american value

                  1. Bovine Currency profile image61
                    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Too bad for you.  He is in power.


                    American capitalism is a joke.  'American value'?  What trash.  America voted for Obama.  For the dominant world power to not even look after its own people with basic health care and housing, a joke.  Where is the value in that?

                2. marinealways24 profile image60
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I disagree. Obama is screwing up the free market. To stimulate the economy, you create a free market, not a government controlled market. With the historical stimulus, he could have given tax cuts to individuals and small businesses to generate more jobs. Instead, he invested the money in losing companies.

                  1. Bovine Currency profile image61
                    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    The free market screwed itself.

              2. sdmairs profile image59
                sdmairsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Facts are facts but distorted facts are not. Millions have lost their jobs during this AND in the previous administration. Why did we have a financial collapse? Oh yea, that’s right… because of the anti-regulation policies of the previous administration. How quickly (and conveniently) we forget.

                Obama’s policies are imperfect and therefore flawed but every administration’s policies are imperfect. So what is your point? Do you really think the previous administration’s policies were based any LESS on ideology? Doesn’t your whole argument amount to opening up a big ol’ can of ‘waaaaaaah’ for all it’s worth in correcting the course we’re on?

                I’ll give you a couple of REAL facts: both Regan and Dubyah borrowed huge amounts of money. To quote then Democratic Vice-Presidential candidate Lloyd Benson, “You let me write couple billion dollars worth of bad checks and I can create the illusion of prosperity too.”

                Attempting to take over health care? What a bunch of hogwash. Do you really believe those nice health insurance executives have the American people’s best interests in mind? Wake up and smell the coffee. American manufacturers will be better able to compete with foreign companies when we level the playing field on per-unit health care costs. If you believe the insurance giants don’t already operate what amounts to ‘death panels’ then you’re one of the lucky minority who never had a close friend or family member who was denied coverage for a major illness.

                1. marinealways24 profile image60
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Um...did Reagan give tax breaks to help the free market when he got the stimulus or did he do as Obama and buy up companies to increase government power?

                2. tksensei profile image62
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  That is not correct

                3. tksensei profile image62
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  A goal they've been after for decades.

      2. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        On what legal charge (oral sex in the Oval Office perhaps? Smoking behind the White House, maybe?)

      3. Jewels profile image81
        Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Your country lost it's freedom many decades ago.  You don't even know you are not free.  Ignorance and complacency by the people will be your downfall. Stop blaming your current president and take a long hard look at yourself as a person.

        1. Pr0metheus profile image60
          Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Jewels, YOUR COUNTRY IS AWESOME!  I'm so moving over there (thank god my gf was born there and has family there, it'll be easy).

          P.S. Hi! big_smile

          1. Jewels profile image81
            Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Hello friend. You're going to start a migrating frenzy.  You're holiday over already?  It's an easy place to love and the health care is so much better! LOL.

            1. tksensei profile image62
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
              1. Jewels profile image81
                Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                The health care system tk!  One of the major problems with Aboriginal health is the Social Welfare system has mothered them to death, in such a way they have lost any semblance of self esteem.  Throwing money at a problem doesn't change the problem.  Even in Australia you have welfare people justifying their existence and getting it wrong.

                Regardless of the health of Australian's, including our native friends, the health care system itself far outshines the one in your country and this is what I was referring to.

                We have one of the highest life expectancies in the world.  The USA has a downward arrow in that area.

                1. tksensei profile image62
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Yeah, that couldn't be as important as making a political statement...

                  1. Pr0metheus profile image60
                    Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Way to respond to the actual comments.... Typical conservative behavior.

                2. tksensei profile image62
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Got that right

            2. Pr0metheus profile image60
              Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Yea, but it's OK.  I will definitely be back.  I fell in love with Sydney.  Melbourne was amazing too, but Sydney was incredible.  I'm back to work sad.  My gfs family got check ups while they were over there, haha.

              Hey TK, just so you know... the majority of aboriginals over there are heavy drug users.  Not all of them, of course, but MANY of them are (like indians were alcoholics back in the old west days).  Thanks for googling that article, though.

              1. tksensei profile image62
                tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Something else many liberals are in favor of, right?

        2. tksensei profile image62
          tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          To which country are you referring?

        3. sdmairs profile image59
          sdmairsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I agree with "complacency by the people will be your downfall". People don't really learn about the important issues; preferring instead to have their information spoon-fed by blow-hards on newstertainment programs. This is understandable though cuz it frees up lots more time for shopping. Folks have abdicated their citizenship for the much more fun role of consumers. Go ahead - shop till you drop but don't blame me next time some nincompoop gets elected just cuz he talks like your buddies down at the local watering hole!

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    I think you should lose that avatar. It is not a nice one at all. Her cheek is hanging out. hmmm

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That is my daughter, when she was 3. She is enjoying the freedom of going to the beach w/ her family. The pic was posted as to make a point , that the future of our grandchildren may not look so rosy.

  9. Randy Godwin profile image93
    Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago

    Who's we?

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      We the people of America

      1. Randy Godwin profile image93
        Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'm an American and I don't recall asking you to speak for me.

        1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          The majority of American's how is that, too offensive for you. I guess you don't enjoy freedom. Sorry for including you my mistake won't happen again. It is alot easier to say we than to type every race creed color religion or political status. So I said We. I guess your fine living w / Big government paying alot of taxes and giving the future generations a pile of debt.

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            Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I have come to the conclusion that a number of Americans have become complacent. They are more than willing to let the government provide for their needs even if that means turning over their paychecks to pay for it. It frees them from the worry of having to compete. Let's face it, wouldn't we all like to stay children forever, living home with Mom and Dad. Yes, these people have become the Democrat party, a group that wishes to convert America into a socialistic society ruled by a benevolent government that knows what's best for us all. It is not the enemy without that freedom loving people need to be concerned about, it is the enemies from within!

            1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I believe many have but the majority rules against it. As i do. I am self employed out of work contractor living from one measly paycheck to another because banks won't lend money to homeowner for repairs and such. The Pres. Said that is what the bail outs would entail, I have seen the contrary. Children that live w/ Mom and Dad do venture on into their own life willingly to gain the freedoms in which we all enjoy, everynow and again it is nice for the kids to come home for some nuturing, but not to live. The enemy within, mmmm well, your right everyone has one, it is our decision how to live w/ those enemies and conduct ourselves accordingly, people do what they need to do based on any given situation and that includes what is going on in the white house.

              1. blue dog profile image79
                blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                if you're an american, then you have a right to get up on your soapbox, no matter how unstable it is. 

                if you're not an american, get off your unstable soapbox.

                if you are an american, people will take your rants and ravings more seriously, only a little, by using correct spelling and grammar. 

                if you're not an american, then a certain amount of forgiveness is in order for that lack of correct spelling and grammar.

                if you are an american, go back to grade school and learn english.

                if you are currently in grade school, pay attention to what your teacher is trying to get through your mushy skull.

                1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                  WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Typographical errors happen during the typing of a blog you feel passionately about, to sit and check spelling to make a point is a little redundent.  If all you have to comment on are the errors in grammar and spelling than thanks for the compliment. I am an American, and I am a scared American, What are you , some comfortable man sitting back in the house in which he owns, w/ no worries about the economy kids all grown up if you have them going out to fish in his back yard? Living off of his retirement? I am so tired of people who have no worries making comments to people such as myself based on the fact they have nothing to worry about, not a care in the world so who cares about anyone else right?

                  1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Another thing President Obama Promised to Repair the School Systems, The teachers don't really care if the students learn anything, when they are getting paid pourly. I know I had to teach myself, by reading, going to college and the like.

                  2. prettydarkhorse profile image62
                    prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    oh, you do really care, but sometimes, when you get emotional, you get carried away?

                    and why judge other people whom you havent met at all?

                2. tksensei profile image62
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Learn what? Did you mean "If you are an American," and "learn English"?

                  1. Himitsu Shugisha profile image75
                    Himitsu Shugishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Hilarious!! smile

                  2. Uninvited Writer profile image82
                    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    But he did spell it right and had the correct punctuation...

        2. Cagsil profile image83
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Agreed!

  10. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    This post is short on truth and long on being partisan.
    The tiny minded use of Barry's miiddle name is an obvious attempt to demonize. What a sick country America is! Conspiracy theories about every president! You guys are not well!

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I really don't care if his middle name is mary. I was clearly stating his name. It was not at all a judgement made against the man. Conspiracy theories, if you have read im simply staing the facts and the road in which our country is on.

  11. rebekahELLE profile image90
    rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago

    hmmm, this is a forum. read the rules. where do you people come from??

  12. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago

    For those who don't understand my concern. When the health care bill was enforced, the repulicans were locked out. The people of american had 24 hours to read over 1000 pages of a bill , and everything wasn't even included. There was no transparency. Big Government, which is what This administration wants, means control over the people, the media etc. that means socialism, nor more self employement, you do what the government says you do. They don't work for us we work for them, I am deathly afraid of that happening. i hope i clarified any questions you have.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Have you ever actually MET any real Americans? Do you know *any* that would fall for such a system. Never happen...

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        yes actually I have, and no they won't fall for such a system hence the impeachement act.

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          They won't fall for such a system anyway, so impeachment would be A HUGE waste of taxpayers' money; you know, large uses of tax revenues = Big Government, remember?

          Look, you folks have a fairly good system: give someone four years, if he f*s up then kick him out. Or kick out his party at the mid-terms. This is a good system, I mean, roughly...

          1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Why?

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Impeachment processes are very expensive, very lengthy/time-consuming, and distract everyone away from real problems (like economic problems, for example)

              1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Wouldn't it at least wake up the president and make him realize that we are upset, the tea parties have done nothing, protests have done nothing he is ignoring us. Maybe if he feels impeachement is possible, he will start listening to our concerns.

                1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
                  AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  ohh he knows... he's an expert (or his team is) on Social bookmarking sites, Web 2.0, and so on; I imagine the White House is reading this thread right now smile

          2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Im afraid 4 years will be too late to fix what is broken.

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I thought the mid-terms were in a few months

              1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I was referring to the  presidency

                1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
                  AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  If either of the two houses are taken back by the Republicans, then you'll have a much better way to get Obama to stand up and take notice (not that I wish that, I'm just saying you already have a system to get at whoever is in power, without rattling on about impeachment. Remember Kenneth Starr? What a god-awful waste of time that was -- imagine what could've been accomplished with that energy...)

                  1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Thank you for understanding my plight

            2. Friendlyword profile image61
              Friendlywordposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              We survived Clinton for Eight Years! Thank Gowd Dubbya came and fixed it enough for us survive Barack Hussein Obama for four years.

              1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
                AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                And this is the point. Clinton was a mixed bag of tricks, so was Bush (though frankly Bush did things to make the jaw drop), Obama will doubtless also be a mix, but you have a system of checks and balances, and elections, in effect, every two years, plus you have states that counter-balance the federal system. I mean, stop worrying, for God's sake.

                1. Friendlyword profile image61
                  Friendlywordposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Ok... I give up.
                  You two please read a few of my hubs.  WeStand4Freedom please read some of the political and religious forums before you post another question on the forum. Get to know the people here on HupPages. Especially me. Ignore Sneak, you'll love Texan, and beware of the TKSENSEI.

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                    Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    lalalaala.  Thank GOWD, Friendly, wink.

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                    A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Everybody loves me,I'm lovable!

            3. Cagsil profile image83
              Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You know it would be nice if you KNEW what the problem was to begin with. Since you don't.....you keep on researching, maybe you can actually find out the truth, instead of being lead astray on some wild goose chase you have no hope of ever reaching your final destination.

              1. tksensei profile image62
                tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Ah, the "truth"! It's out there, Mulder...

    2. Cagsil profile image83
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Paranoid much?

  13. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    I suspect Obama wants the foxes out of the hen house very much, but he is not congress, he does not make decisions alone ever, as no government leader does.
    Want Obama to get more done? Stop telling lies about him and trying to sabotage yourselves by concocting fairy tales about the presidency.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I confess to ignorance on much of this, 'tis true. It would have been nice to see some ball breaking, that's all.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I want the president to succeed , i would be stupid if i didn't but the path in which he is taking us down is one we will never see the end of, until one day a nuclear war and then it all won't matter anymore. There are not lies being told here, I am simply stating facts, politico.com, whitehouse.gov etc. Fairy tales, maybe the people in the fairy tales are the one's ignoring what the president is doint to this country simply because they don't want to be wrong in voting for him in the first place.

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Evidence please.

          1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Do your homework, go the websites listed above the information is there.

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Still not with you on the whole nuclear war thing; sorry.

              1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Practically every country has nukes. We are in debt to many countries now. Some who don't like us very much. If we don't pay back those countries , who is to say they won't launch a nuclear attack

                1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
                  AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Five or six countries have nuclear weapons (Israel - ally; UK - ally; France - ally; Russia - ally; China - ally; India - ally; Pakistan - ally). There are close to two hundred countries in the world.

                  How will they get their money if they destroy you: bad for business.

                  1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    That is my point, first of all no one said they were smart in the business sense another is if they are not getting paid back the money lent then another world war will break, hence World War II

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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Keeps 'em busy so they don't gnaw each others' arms off, wink.  I think the petition is a worthwhile endeavor, thus.

      edit* American political humor, somewhat, earnest.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol

        1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Your completely correct, yet he did in fact elect his cabinet to ensure his policies would pass w/o a hitch and lock republicans out of the health care bill debate to ensure it would pass the house. Doesn't soung right to me.

          1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Political leaders everywhere always form their cabinet from supporters -- of course! Who wouldn't do that! I'd question their sanity if they didn't.

            1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              True , but non experienced supporters that have no clue what they are doing?

            2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              True , but non experienced supporters that have no clue what they are doing?

  14. donotfear profile image91
    donotfearposted 7 years ago

    Oh boy, here we go again.....  Get ready for the bashing coming from the left.

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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No, we do it in special code now, smile.  All done.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I really don't know where the bashing comes in, If it is factual it is not bashing.

    2. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Bashing comes from all sides, as it should: this is the hallmark of a healthy democracy. When you hear no more debate, no more mud-slinging, start to worry.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That is what is wrong with this country, there is no left right black white red or blue. This country is or about or should be about what is right or wrong. How bout that for democracy, What a concept. President Obama said that on his campaign as well yet we haven't seen that happen either.

  15. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 7 years ago

    For those who keep running amok afraid of Islam, I think you'd be best serve getting to know some Muslims first. I'm actually more concerned about having an Apocalypse believing person in office than anything else....

    Anyone familiar with "Camp of the Saints"?

    With this said...the President has not destroyed the economy...globalization is doing that. This is a process that transcendes presidents and parties.  Free trade is only free to the money and goods-movers. For labor it is a path to bondage.

    People who complain about deficits and spending seem to forget where that spending is continuing to go, and where 30,000, at least, more Americans will be going....and then remember the real lies that got us there...I wish this kind of passion against a corrupted, false leader existed a few years ago.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thumbs up to your first paragraph all the way.

      ...and the last sentence.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Unfortunetly we can wish in one hand and S!&? in the other, that is what we will end up with if all we do is wish. But yeah, definatley agreed, we need to have the president hear we are not happy w/ all the spending. He is not spending to help us he is spending to help Big Corp and ultimately own them too. What about Obama's Lie's Again, that is what politicians do. Yet here we all are trying to come to the same agreement our country is screwed up and something needs to be done about it.

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    worried manposted 7 years ago

    I think Goerge W Bush is one of the worst presidents we've ever had.Obama inherited several catastrophes,it's going to take some time to repair all the damage that W caused.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Obama is probably no saint, but you are right, Bush and, more specifically Cheney....! I mean, I normally think theories about the anti-Christ are a bit suspect, but after seeing Dick Cheney.... I mean, that guy was not your average, relatively corrupt politician: this man was heavy-duty baaaad news.

    2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Are We going to continue to cry over what has been done or are we going to fix it? Obama said hs was going to fix it, and he is doing exactly the opposite.

      1. Cagsil profile image83
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        But, you're not posing any answer.....you are just complaining.

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          BTW, I think one "fact" you might have wrong is the idea that someone doing a complex job automatically gets fired after a year of poor results; studies show it takes about eighteen months for an engineer, for example, to learn a new job. And of course teachers, doctors, etc., are not normally fired after a year of incompetence (come to think of it, I can think of tons of examples of this). How long was that GM CEO head of the company... bad example... sad

          1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I would sufice to say it depends on what type of employment we are talking about, construction is different than the Ceo's , wall street etc. I am only complaining because I pose a possible solution and I all heard was complaining about past issue's past problems who's fault this whose fault that, how about trying to fix the problems at hand so the united states can get their SH!? together. I did not start complaining, i started w/ a possible solution and we don't have to start that rebuttal again, i understand it is way to expensive. All I do know is We are self employed probably going to loose our home due to unemployment, and bad economy just like Millions of others and nothing is being done about it , What is being done is massive spending on things we don't need. I do believe starting over as if you were 18 years old when you are almost 50 is grounds to get a little emotional don't you think? But I did get a job and am living paycheck to paycheck, don't know when i am going to loose my house, but i still hold my head high and have a smile on my face and thank GOD for what i do have. I just am afraid one day, if the BS continues people such as myself won't be able to walk around w/ a smile on their face and be thankful anymore because Big Government will take that away. So I hope you have a clearer picture of where i am going with my urgency

            1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              My Gosh, If i had an answer I guess i should have run for president. But the President Did say he had an answer to this mess , and we have yet to see him fix it.

  17. Bibowen profile image92
    Bibowenposted 7 years ago

    I think Obama has earned an impeachment (more so than he earned a Nobel), but if the Congress would not remove a perjured Clinton, they won't remove an incompetent Obama. So, I don't think that discussions about "impeaching Obama" have any real practical value.

    Efforts need to go toward raising money to expose corrupt organizations that support Obama's efforts (like ACORN). Also, emphasis needs to be given to what is going to happen to the economy as Obama dumps America's future into the black hole of government growth. In addition, the most articulate spokespeople that are challenging Obama's agenda need to be given attention and resources.

    This will likely get Obama's party turned out of office in 2010.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes that Nobel thing was weird, it's true. But what I don't get about anti-Obama-ists is that, even though doubtless much of the criticism is right, Republicans do exactly the same things.

      I mean, is anyone going to tell me that government SHRANK under Bush? Reagan was in power for eight years, followed by Bush Senior. How come the government wasn't the size of a minnow after that? Was it? No, of oourse not; it was a giant bureaucratic monster, as usual.

      And as for corrupt fundraising, and so on, doubtless Obama was into that -- every president you've ever had has been into it, I'm sure; but to suggest Republican candidates are *less* corrupt: it's all very silly to me.

    2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Exactly your 100% right. I feel if Acorn is exposed even further, we will find out a little more of how a community organizer w/ little experience was elected president by only 5 votes, I wonder if those 5 votes were from people who were in fact alive?

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        More than impeachement, I just want him to wake the F!/? up. and realize what he is doing to this country , i think he just has no clue and neither do the bozo's in his cabinet.

        1. Paraglider profile image88
          Paragliderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You appear obsessed. You also seem to think that there are two types of people in America, comprising:
          1. Americans
          2. People who disagree with you

  18. 0
    lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago

    I still love Texan xo

    1. 0
      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      still loving ya lol

  19. Cagsil profile image83
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    Okay people. This thread is completely way out of line. It is completely 100% ridiculous to think about impeaching a President this early into his administration. Yes, some things are not working as described to the pubic, but DO REALIZE the president can issue an order- it's morons below him who are NOT doing their job.

    You can not layoff everything this Country has done in the past 200+ years worth of damage, on him. It's unfair and I'll have words with anyone who does dare try.

    You- each one of YOU- are responsible for the mess in this damn Country- we call America. Damn it- understand it's not right that business strangles Congress, because business has too much pull. There are way too many businesses making things worse for people than there are making it better.

    WAKE UP! This is morning news ladies and gentlemen. Get your sh&t straight and OPEN YOUR EYES and look at the atrocities committed in this damn country and stop looking for a place to lay the BLAME- if wasn't for your religion- YOU would not be placing blame on others for your own incompetance. It's the CITIZENS who have the power in this Country and it's the CITIZENS who should take it back.

    BUT- before than can be done- you have to stop looking at from the wrong perspective or perceived notions that you think that you know what's wrong?

    Well, guess again- YOU DON'T!

    If you are not a business owner, then you can not see the WHOLE STORY, which means you're missing knowledge. If you don't know something, it hurts you. If you lack a certain knowledge, then that hurts your life too.

    Get over yourself for once. Become a better human being yourself, before you DECIDE to JUDGE others.

    It's pathetic what America has come to. Equality is a myth. It's simply an appearance of politics. It's a joke. The problem is that the citizens continue to take the garbage, and every election they elect another fool.

    It is your DUTY as a citizen to BELIEVE in your candidate. NOT to take the lessor of two evils. If YOU are going to give up MY RIGHTS as a Citizen, I am going to have words with you. Because, YOU don't decide what happens in my life. I DO!

    United Citizens for a cause is the threat that can oppose Government- So, are you going to be selfish and look at things your way and continue complaining OR Are you finally going to CHANGE your attitude?

    I leave it to you to figure out.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hey, you make a great point that needs making, and that no-one has made: if more Americans stopped watching the Biggest Loser and worrying about Britney's next photo op, and realized that sitting by and watching the hatchet jobs your governments do to your country is seriously irresponsible, perhaps things could be better.

      I mean, this bailout business. Good grief! And Iraq? How could that have happened. Even if Saddam had weapons of mass destruction how the hell were they supposed to reach you, and why would he pick on a country with thousands of nuclear weapons to fight a war with?????

      Come on, in the history of the world, the thirty-odd countries that have Western democratic systems are far and away the most privileged people ever to have lived: squandering that is a disgrace, frankly. Give yourselves a good slap, stop going on about Obama, and start educating yourself about what it takes to be a citizen of the world's first democracy (at least since women and slaves have been given the vote.. smile ).

      1. Cagsil profile image83
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Well, I didn't impose my will on the topic, just to not make a point. The problem is getting people to WAKE UP about what's really important, and that is other human beings. This country is suppose to be a United Country, yet you walk down the street and you could be shot by a drive by shooter. We have security in this country, beyond Constitutional accord and severely needs to be cut back.

        We have too many businesses getting just enough people riled up to enforce new laws. This is pathetic that civil liberties can be sold so easily. America's foundation is on CIVIL RIGHTS - Our own individual right of choice. You let them take away your individual rights without a fight, you've apparently don't understand the meaning of life.

        It is sad, how businesses are ruining society, yet no one sees it. Business control everything.......I mean EVERYTHING! It is in every aspect of life, including corruption of Congressional Officials.

        So, what's next?

        1. tksensei profile image62
          tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ah, good ol' "WAKE UP" again...  roll



          WAKE UP = AGREE WITH ME, DAMMIT!

          1. Cagsil profile image83
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Again, you still don't see what I am talking about. I don't need you to agree with me, but to take SELF-responsibility for your own action.

            Boy are you naturally this ignorant or do you work hard at it?

            1. tksensei profile image62
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              That's not a very nice thing to say.

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
                Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Don't take it personally.  Some people simply don't like you.

                1. blue dog profile image79
                  blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  careful there, ron.  next thing you know you'll have all the fans of his super fanning alter ego in here.

                  1. tksensei profile image62
                    tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Sorry, no alter-ego. Another silly conspiracy shot down.

    2. tksensei profile image62
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL!!!! Blaming Bush wasn't enough, now it's Washington's fault! Poor Obama!  roll

    3. tksensei profile image62
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL! Now it's The Obama vs. EVERYONE ELSE!!!! roll


      When will the most reverend wright create for us the utopia we don't deserve?


      roll

      1. Cagsil profile image83
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Is that how you read that?

        It shows how pathetic you are. You obviously are a woman without any intelligence, it's either that or you're man who doesn't think to highly of himself.

        Either way, I really don't care. However, since you've decided to take ONE piece of what I said and MOCK it like it something dumb, was your second mistake. Your first mistake what thinking that you could offer something to the subject.

        Just in case you MISS it the first time around- YOU are the problem. You subjective perspective and garbage nature. You call yourself a human being. You are insult to the race I call human.

        That fact that you would MOCK what I said at all- is pathetic.

        It's NOT everyone against Obama- IT IS Everyone against Government!

        Get your FACTS straight before you open your mouth. Just so we can prevent this from happening again.

        1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I really have no idea where you are getting your" FACTS", but apparently you are talking from your own self consciense rather than fact, I am not Blaming Obama for the entire promblem America is in right now that WOULD BE STUPID, i am simply stating I am worried about what he currently doing to worsen the situation , to go off on  someone that is only worried about America and its freedoms , clearly states you are a complete liberal, will alot of self importance. Don't even bother replying to this post because what you have to say has not intelligence within its rambling. All you share are your own mealy mouth feelings. Time to Grow UP. Ya Sooooooooooooo Funny. When our Economy is in the tank because of the PRESIDENT'S (S) THE OPERATIVE WORD, not just Obama. Obama stated he was gonna CHAAAAAANGE THE WORRRLDDDD"  From what i see For the worse. This is the time Americans should stand up and fight for what we believe in and that is our freedom. If Obama continues on this path we will loose all of our freedoms including this blog forum. You think I m stupid no i just care about more than one person, All Americans or other nationalities that came to this country for freedom.

          1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              BTW,  I like the President as a person, I don't like the way he ignores the people of America and the promises he made ,that he knows if he did in fact do what he said would have helped the economy begin to get back on track, He is going in the opposite direction.

              1. James Agbogun profile image78
                James Agbogunposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                It is very clear the kind of personal love you have for the President. You came in here just some ten hours ago only to shout: "Impeach him!"

            2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                BTW, I didn't say you were stupid, also, if you even read my full page blog, you would see im not stupid. Maybe you don't have the fact, stop pointing fingers and think about what is really going on. The finger pointing must stop, What is being done , what has been sign and pushed through office has no feelings, it is fact, Bail outs? FACT, no feeling or ideals just the facts and those 3 facts i just brought to attention alone are reason to be concerned. Not color, not bias, not liberal, left right or otherwise, just what is wrong and right. Is that stupid to you tooooo? Calling me stupid or unintelligent was definately incorrect. I am far from it. Perhaps it is the one calling the kettle black.

                1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                  WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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                    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
          2. Cagsil profile image83
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Your problem is that you are not ATTACKING the underlying problem, but just a single person. And, that is just stupidity running rampant without paying attention or knowing all the facts.

            1. tksensei profile image62
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              And YOU know "all the facts"?

            2. Himitsu Shugisha profile image75
              Himitsu Shugishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Excellent post. I mean, I don't agree with calling the guy stupid, but not considering all the facts, absolutely.

        2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Don't talk about what you don't know. Maybe it is your man who is ignorant hence your postings.

          1. Cagsil profile image83
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            It's obvious that you DO NOT have all the facts. Otherwise, you wouldn't be making this kind of noise.

            1. tksensei profile image62
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Wow, it seems no one has all the facts but YOU. Funny how that works...

              1. Cagsil profile image83
                Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Do you KNOW what the problem is?

                It is a lack of knowledge. Are you happy?

                1. tksensei profile image62
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  How can I be happy knowing I lack the superior knowledge you have, Mulder?

                  1. Cagsil profile image83
                    Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    It's not a matter of a lack of knowledge, whether superior or not, isn't the case. Open your eyes and look around, maybe do a little investigation into the things happening and WHY they happen.

                    It's not that I have a superior knowledge, per se, as you see it, because you love to debate or bait others by making ridiculous irrelevant statements, without offering any form of solution.

                    I'm not claim any superior knowledge, as you claim. I am however, trying to get people to understand that there is more to it than it appears. I thought that was obvious.

    4. tksensei profile image62
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




      That was just flat-out hilarious!

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        What are you talking about. You want socialism/communism big governement, Complaining? Look who is complaining. I have not seen one piece of factual evidence that you even have a clue as to what is really going on in this country. Go back into fantasy land and close the doors so you don't have to deal w/ people who really care about this country

  20. Cagsil profile image83
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    Don't bother responding.

    I just going to leave you with the message I bring.

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      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks Cag's

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    shardlionposted 7 years ago

    the problems i see in this mind set of what has the president done for the people, is simply this its been 1 year, you cant fix the economic debacle within one year. If you wish to fix the problem look at big corporations and not to the president. Tell your congressman about the problems you see get active and do something about it. The reason we face such a high unemployment rate is because these companys who received bail out continued to send jobs over seas.

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I agree that is part of the problem, yet the government currently is spending money they don't have on pork barrell spending bank bailouts, when banks don't loan any one any money and no jobs have been created as of yet. Im simply upset that the people again believed in a president that said yet again they were going to fix the problems and have yet to so but make things worse.

      1. rhamson profile image76
        rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Do you think the spending of unsecured funds is new. Inflation has caught up to the amounts.  The Fed has been printing monopoly money for years and has done more than any institution to hurt the economy than anything in recent history.  Why do you think they can lend money at 0% interest?  Because the money is valueless.  You have to look beyond Obama because a president can effect far less change then you give him credit for.  Besides you have to account for the slime bags on the hill when calculating a measure of change.

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        shardlionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        To this statement i do say his stimulous did create jobs and infact i worked a job created by the package for the whole summer a so called shovel ready job. I was payed well for the work performed and considered it a worthwhile venture. As for the presidents lack of judgement the only thing i have to say to that is that he is doing what he thinks is best for the country within what he knows how to do, its not unlike so many presidents before him, The bush's for example father and son spent billions of dollars on wars that did nothing more than george junior cleaning up the mess his father made when he tried to oust the man we put into power in iraq. Look at nixon, look at clinton who allowed for companys to get a tax differemnt to send bussiness over seas. We as a people have become negligent to the abuse of power within the united states and only untill recently have we started to do something about it and blame one person mainly the president for the illgotten gains and loss' when the majority of the problem is the congressman allowing these things to happen our elected officials we have put into power who are lobbyists and are in someones pocket. I understand peoples concerns im concerned to but does our concern fall on deaf ears, I would have to say yes. You know if we all rose up together and said f this they would have to listen its our right as citizens.

  22. readytoescape profile image60
    readytoescapeposted 7 years ago

    Interestingly, this President is doing almost exactly what he said he would do during his campaign. Transform. It is why I did not vote for him, I heard what he was saying. If you were too blinded by the rock star image and tired old liberal mantra of Change to ignore exactly what the man was telling you he would do and what those of us that are part of the conservative persuasion were telling you, who is to blame?

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      yeah is sure is changing for the worse. He has not fullfilled his promise on making sure unemployement rate didn't  increase higher than 8.2% alot of his votes came from that promise. We were already in a recession especially after 9/11.
      He said he would stop the spending , he didn't, so really I don't know exactly what promise your talking about. He said Change not Transform. He said no tax increases, he also said he would create jobs. Now he is talking about redistributing the wealth of people who actually make an effort to work to the people who don't. Ths Rock Star didn't get me, I never liked his ideals nor did i vote for the man, I hoped when elected he was going to do some of the things he stated listed above, but he didn't , He is a meglomaniac looking for complete control. I don't think most americans want him to have it either.

      1. readytoescape profile image60
        readytoescapeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Actually he did say, "Transform". He used the liberal catch word "change" at the beginning of the campaign as "code" for the fundamental transformation of America. The word “transform was inserted into his speeches in the later portion of the campaign. See the below link.


        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvJJP9AYgqU

  23. prettydarkhorse profile image62
    prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago

    how about those who voted for him and others who still believe in HIM?

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I believe the president has some brains up there i wish he would use them, i really don't know what he is up to, as far as his main goal this presidency, but we have yet to see any plan of action. If you voted for him and still believe in him than you stand by your convictions, that is what you believe, ,I actually believe he can do better, I just wish he would before it is way too late.

  24. blue dog profile image79
    blue dogposted 7 years ago

    the dawning of a new internet troll...

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes Indeed

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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I remember when some of them used to be amusing.

  25. AEvans profile image70
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    I wrote a hub filled with questions and have the same concerns , it is new and I am not going to publicize it but many hubbers are asking too! smile

  26. tksensei profile image62
    tksenseiposted 7 years ago

    You forgot to say "WAKE UP!"

    1. Cagsil profile image83
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      WAKE UP = OPEN YOUR EYES!

      What part did you not understand?

      1. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        How about "LOOK AROUND YOU!" or "THINK FOR YOURSELF!"? Those are good ones too.


        roll

        1. Cagsil profile image83
          Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Are you trying to be difficult on purpose or do you simply refuse to read the words as they are and NOT manipulate them?

          You are ridiculous. Yes, I want to you think for yourself, but apparently you can't seem to make up your own damn mind on figuring out what's best, nevermind for yourself, but for society. When you can 'wrap' your mind around the concept, please do let me know.

          It's obvious, that you refuse to understand written words and it is also obvious that you like to poke and fun at other people. So, you can amuse yourself.

          Again, that makes you sad and a poor excuse of a human being.

          If you happen to take my words as an insult- it is because that's what you are use to? And, refuse to look at life in a positive manner. However, it's understood you don't know any better and that's okay. I get it.

          It's more than obvious that you don't care about others than yourself. So, go figure you have an attitude and it is the way it is.

  27. Lifes Joke profile image52
    Lifes Jokeposted 7 years ago

    impeach the president and replace him with who?...i wonder did you (person who started this thread) wanted to create a petition to get Bush out of office for sending the troops to war under false pretenses and not capturing Bin Laden...And im sure you didn't vote for Barrack most likely because he's black..but anyways you are entitled to your opinion...It didn't take the U.S. a year to get into such a f*cked up position it's in so it is illogical to believe that after a year someone can fix whats going on significantly....

    1. tksensei profile image62
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So, how long do you give him before expecting any accountability?

      1. Lifes Joke profile image52
        Lifes Jokeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I expect accountability now...i have a bachelors degree and no where to work and i also don't have health insurance...but to re-itterate my point impeaching him is jumping the gun....and i can't say for sure how long it would take to honor his commitment or he is even capable...but he deserves more than a year....and thats my opinion..of course if you don't like it, it just really sucks...but i hope you have a great day anyway.

        1. tksensei profile image62
          tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And it's on the president to go find you a job?

          1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            The president said" I will create and save Jobs" "I promise not to  allow under my administration the unemployment rate to rise above 8%.

            1. sdmairs profile image59
              sdmairsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Please cite your source for this quote so it can be independently verified.

              1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                While he was PUBLICALLY CAMPAIGNING For the Presidency

        2. tksensei profile image62
          tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          How much more? Maybe just a rough estimate?

          1. rhamson profile image76
            rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Maybe the term allotted by the Constitution.  You will have your chance to lame duck him with a republican congress in 2010 and take a shot at him in 2012.

            1. tksensei profile image62
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              So it's not legitimate to expect any results from The Obama until the end of his term?! Wow.

              1. rhamson profile image76
                rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I think you missed the point.  He will be given the four years allotted to implement his policies.  If he doesn't make a change that is worthwhile then he should be thrown out.  I say should be as this is not always the result in a democracy. If he doesn't I will probably vote him out if there is something better to vote for at that time.

                I know you hate to hear it but the past 8 years have set this thing up to be what it is whether or not it was directly Bushs fault and it will take some time to turn it around if it is to happen.

                1. tksensei profile image62
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  So you are not going to expect anything of him until his entire term is over?

                  1. rhamson profile image76
                    rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I did not put a timeline on how long it took for us to get into this mess and I can't put one on Obama to get out of it.  If he doesn't change enough of what I feel is important by the end of his term than I will vote him out based on whether the opposing candidate looks any better.  Hey I voted for Bush over Goofy Al Gore the first time. And I voted for him again even though I did not trust him over No Ideas Kerry. We will have to see what develops.

                2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                  Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I will probably vote him out if there is something better to vote for at that time.

                  Palin?

                  1. rhamson profile image76
                    rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I feel the same way but I don't think Palin is a question for me.  I hope the Republicans can come up with something worthwhile if Obama flops.

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                    A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    A tree stump?

              2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Very Sad

    2. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm only responding because of your picture smile .

      Let me see here: lie to the American public and send them to their first war since the disastrous events of Vietnam thirty years ago (a warning from history in itself) using thousands and thousands of troops, ie., young men and women from off your streets and from out of your homes, and costing billions of dollars...

      or...

      Don't fix problems that have been building for many years, and maybe even screw it up a bit.

      Mmmm, which is worse....?

  28. tksensei profile image62
    tksenseiposted 7 years ago

    Wow, perhaps I've been too subtle...?

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    sandra rinckposted 7 years ago

    Did anyone catch the part of Obama's speech just after he was talking about how 'we' have no intentions of (in short) taking over the world... peace for our children... that's why we have the world bank...

    The crowd cheers.

    Me, excuse me... did he... he did and the people are cheering.  OMFG!

    Id have him impeached too.

  30. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    obama said this all in the same breath no lie . Afghanistan poses no immediate threat to the usa. so were sending 30000 more troops. i freaked out

  31. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    i did not vote for him but he is my prez for better or worse. i fear  we got the worse . jive talking wont get him  another term ill bet on it

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    Leta Sposted 7 years ago

    Listening for main idea, listening for context.

    This is also a very scary thread.

  33. Presigo profile image60
    Presigoposted 7 years ago

    What a very well stated hub. All of us regardless of party leanings and religious affiliation truly need to be aware of what is truly going on. Its high time for us to take off the blinders of our leanings and see what is truly happening to our country and our childrens future

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you! Finally someone w/ the blinders off and color blind

      1. Presigo profile image60
        Presigoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        my pleasure !

  34. Manly Man profile image60
    Manly Manposted 7 years ago

    HubPages should provide an award for the forum that inspires the most intelligent and well informed discussion and debate of a critical issue. This one would win hands down. It's pretty clear that Obama is taking instructions from the Rev. Wright, George Soros, ACORN and Commie Bomber Bill Ayres. What are we waiting for? Impeach Hussein Obama NOW before it's too late!

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Sarah Palin

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        Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol  I believe satire, too.

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          Leta Sposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          They are actually starting to freak me out, Ron.  It's like being in wax museum or a hall of mirrors.  What's real?  What's not? lol wink  Seriously, though.

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
            Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Twilight zone...

            Imagine if you will, a populace willing to impeach a president for not immediately reversing the catastrophic course of the past eight years; these same people willing to forgive and forget small issues like torture, lying to your country to justify invading another country.......

            ner ner ner ner
            ner ner ner ner...

            1. Presigo profile image60
              Presigoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I for one did not expect Obama to solve our problems in a year, but what he has done is take a bad situation from Bush and make it EXPONENTIALLY far worse. I am no fan of the previous administration but what Obama has done is beyond horrible

              1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                WELL SAID, BRAVO!

                1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Hear Hear!

                  Bravo indeed

              2. Army Infantry Mom profile image60
                Army Infantry Momposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I agree !!! It's a frickin' nightmare

      2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you Manly Man. You are  100% correct on finally a forum where people w/ intelligence can converse w/o childish commentary, those children need to stick to myspace. Not saying Myspace is a bad website, but there are just so many clicks that talk about high school nonsense.

  35. Presigo profile image60
    Presigoposted 7 years ago

    It is refreshing to see intelligent posts and commentary ! Lets be careful, we may start a new trend !

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      NS

  36. Ron Montgomery profile image59
    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

    Yes, from start to finish this thread has raised the bar for intelligent discourse to an unprecedented level.

    Bravo chaps.

    Bravo!

  37. akirchner profile image95
    akirchnerposted 7 years ago

    Since someone ELSE was president for 8 years, I'm kinda thinking ONE YEAR for Obama to dig us out of this mess is really totally unrealistic!  You have to be kidding me.  You expect for all the problems generated by 8 years of mishandling of power to evaporate in 1 year - or if maybe our other branches of government actually did their jobs and tried to find a meeting of the minds - there are many factors and no one man is an island.  I agree that speaking your mind is what America is all about - but I also believe in a fair deal and I think Obama is certainly not getting one on some scores.  You have to give someone a chance before you shoot off your mouth and condemn him across the board - and another thought - where would be with McCain at the helm?  Or even worse Sarah Palin?  I have nightmares about that one!

    1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
      WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No matter who would have been elected, Sarah or McCain, we would not be trillions of dollars in debt to other countries, that are threatening our security.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        He certainly has done a real good job in ONE YEAR putting us in major debt w/ other countries and making us vulnerable to additional attacks, by taking a very long time, not just time to debate the topic, but a very long time in sending more troops. You people out that that are so against Bush, for going to war after 9/11, well something needed to be done to let those ignorant people know we are not gonna just sit back while you blow up our twin towers and try on the pentagon. Everyone is a Bush hater, Well what about all the catastrophes he was force to deal w/ while in office, Katrina in Louisiana, Charlie in Port Charlotte, Fl. and a few smaller hurricanes in addition to 9/11 practically right after he took office. I think he handled thing the best he could , weather he told the truth about why we went over there or not, Why does it matter, we still needed to be there. Many americans had no clue what he was talking about anyway, for example, Sadam Hussien and Osama Bin Laden, were names of 2 men very few American even new who they were until Bush send troops to the middle east and it was in your face everytime you put the television on.

        So in your world it is ok for a President to (in

        1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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            Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            If you are so sure of your convictions why don't you use your real name so the other Sarah Palin people can jump on your bandwagon?  Your assertions are laughable.  The U.S. backed both Saddam and Osama when they were against Iran and Russia.  Iraq was a war to make George Bush a war president and give his office more power.  Did you rant and rail against him when he started our country on this downhill slide?  Of course you didn't, you are a republican and probably voted for McCain Palin.  This tells me everything I need to know about your ability to make good political choices.  It seems you have your panties in a wad, both literally and physically.

            1. tksensei profile image62
              tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Stalker alert!

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
                Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                pot/kettle

                1. Bovine Currency profile image61
                  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Stalker alert!  THAT is funny!

                2. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                  WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  My name is Brenda, I am worried about things like craigslist murders things like that. Now you know my name. Im not afraid of having the people I talk to pretty much daily of knowing my name. Just the people that are here for another reason completely.

              2. Randy Godwin profile image93
                Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I've never stalked anyone and I'm not one to use an alias to state my opinions.  It just seems funny for someone to be so opinionated about truth but choose to use an alias to hide behind.  Why would anyone accept the credibility of such persons?

                1. tksensei profile image62
                  tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Do you have a special address where the SS# and blood sample should be sent?













                  ... roll

                  1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
                    WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Replied to another , my name is Brenda, the world doesn't need to know my name. Helloooo, Craigslist murders?

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                      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      The question should be why would anyone use their real names on the internet?

              3. tksensei profile image62
                tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Wouldn't 'literally' include 'physically'?

          3. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
            WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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              WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
              1. rhamson profile image76
                rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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                  WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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                  C.J. Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  rhamson,

                  I one of those Katrina people. No, the majority of people did not blame Bush. The govenor and the mayors of the affected cities was the the problem. Note the elections that followed.....What I find repulsive is how many have used that tragedy for political gain.

                  1. rhamson profile image76
                    rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I am sorry for you to have suffered through that mess but I have relatives who where there and have left but still blame Bush and Nagin and Blanco for the debacle.

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                      C.J. Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      Most of that can fall squarely on the shoulders of Blanco. Complete incompetent. Nagin behaved strangely, but was under a lot of stress. To illustrate just how much the problem was not with Bush, look at the Mississippi Gulf coast or how Texas responded after their hurricane disasters. Louisiana was NOT prepared and lacked leadership. Had Blanco been better prepared and capable, Nagin never looses his grip, the mayor of Metairie either for that matter. Nagin took the brunt of it and that wasn't fair. Mainly because New Orleans was the focus. Nagin had taken over a city that had been completely engulfed in corruption for decades! The city is populated with a disproportionate amount of very poor people. It was a tough place to be. Katrina seriously damaged Nagin's legacy. I firmly believe he was going to make a huge difference in New Orleans. Unfortunately his comments in the months following Katrina burned a lot of bridges.

      2. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Here we go again. "Yes we can!" morphed into "Give him time!"


        I keep asking, but no one answers: How long?

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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago

      Um, Ma'am (I'm assuming), shouldn't you be gettin' busy writing that petition up and a figurin' how to get it to work?  Enlist all that agree with you here (?)

      (Excuse my grammar.)

    3. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

      I didn't know a President could be impeached because you didn't want him to be elected smile

      1. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good point. One missed by Bush haters for many years as well.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

      There's really nothing funny about it.
      Unless you think the possibility of civil war is funny.

    5. Ron Montgomery profile image59
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

      If referring to Tea Baggers (not the fun kind) as voices of reason isn't funny, then nothing is, has been, or ever will be is funny.  Humor does not even exist.

      1. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        To 'what'?

    6. Presigo profile image60
      Presigoposted 7 years ago

      A president has the moral obligation to serve the country and work to resolve systemic problems. For a president to take opportunity of difficult times to put forth an ideology that requires all of us to risk our future as well as our childrens is beyond horrible. It is akin to the infamous "ambulance chasers" in the legal proffesion, but their self serving acts while unethical and distasteful do not require a country to surrender its future !

    7. tksensei profile image62
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago

      "Scary, scary!" is right up there with "WAKE UP" and "OPEN YOUR EYES!" among pointless, empty 'you must agree with me' banalities.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago

      We didn't impeach Clinton when he admitted to adultery, or Bush when we found out the intel and reasoning for invading Iraq was completely bogus. Why would we impeach Obama when he has not broken the law and in the 10 actual months he has been president things have not worked out like he wanted.

      Don't get me wrong I don't like Obama and think he's just another puppet, with far too little experience as a leader, but he is what the people elected so for better or worse, the people are stuck with him. That being said, overturning 25 years of mismanagement over spending and corruption will not be quick or easy. How impatient we are when it hurts us personally. This will take time and effort and unfortunately everyone is going to feel the pinch, welcome to responsibility Americans, it hurts and sometimes even sucks. We as a nation have allowed our government to ruin us with years of silent compliance. Now we are paying for it. To think that one man as the president actually wields the power to ruin this nation is naive. You want to point a finger at DC then focus on the congress and their virtual lifetime terms and unchecked corruption of taxpayer money, there's your problem and boogey man. Vote them out, all of them, and start over with proven local leaders to represent their local constituencies as it should be.

      1. rhamson profile image76
        rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I agree.  The way to real change is to vote the slime on the hill out and restrict the time they have through term limits.  And while we are at it let's do something and about the lobbying that is sucking the life out of our ability to govern for the people.

        1. tksensei profile image62
          tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Wonderful rhetoric, but rights don't only exist for angry hippies.

      2. tksensei profile image62
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Right. We impeached him when he lied under oath.

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          Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah and that taught him a lesson, except it didn't accomplish anything.So when has Obama lied under oath or broke the law. Better yet just keep calling people hippies and flinging the insults. Oh wait you never do that I forgot.

          1. tksensei profile image62
            tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            One would hope so, but I wonder...

      3. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thats a BIG 10/4 . Impeaching the president is definatetly not the answer, but a petition would make him see how unhappy we are as a country w/ the excessive spending. Don't you think? He won't listen to us , maybe, just maybe a petition would make him hear us. History has proven worse protests have occured. What is wrong w/ this protest, Heck it might make a difference. Like you said we have sit back to long and now we are feeling it, why not use now as to not sit back and take it any longer and say something about it w/ a petition?

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      Denno66posted 7 years ago

      rut roh reorge....

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      Denno66posted 7 years ago

      Stirring up trouble I guess....

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      Denno66posted 7 years ago

      I'm in for the stump.

    12. helot profile image74
      helotposted 7 years ago

      Maybe you should look to impeach congress.  I think they had a lot more to do with what has been happening than the figure head you're mad at.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Impeach everyone. They're all buggers. Except that nice Mrs. Clinton wink

      2. rhamson profile image76
        rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That is really a great idea.  Is that even possible?

      3. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Your right! But if the president were to put in motion the ideals he had prior to his inaugeration, perhaps things would begin to move in the proper direction , down in unemployment ratings, the debt certainly should have not increased, that is decreasing our dollar dramatically. Relying on the government more and more is not the direction we should be going. That is what is happening though, because that is what the president wants. Congress has ideas, the president agrees and signs the bills, Ulitimately it is up to the president. No matter if the congress is wrong or even right , the president has the last word.

        1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
          WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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      Leta Sposted 7 years ago

      I'm sorry.  I've been mocking this entire post, but seriously I do not understand the hyperbole encased in this long thread.  It has been less than a year that Obama has been in office!  And I'd like everyone to know that this is NOT a partisan statement I'm about to make:  But it just sounds like a bunch of children crying. Do people actually see their elected officials as Daddy figures who are gonna fix everything?  It's pathetic.

      Yes, I lean left (though my left doesn't mean what many here think it means).  However, you would never hear me--with any president--asking for "freedom" or for him or her to "fix the economy."  This is nuts.  I don't even know where to begin, I feel it is so lacking in scope.

      You cannot blame one person (who wasn't even in office when the majority of the set up for these troubles occurred)for "the economy" going to hell or the housing bubble.  Yeah, I know a guy (a builder who works for/with my bf) who is losing everything, ie--house, all his cars, motorcycles--everything.  He had an ARM loan on the house--don't think anyone twisted his arm (lol) so to speak to sign the papers (for those who don't know, that's an adjusted rate mortgage:  a few years real cheap payments, ballooning up after a certain point).  And did he really need 5 vehicles on payment plans?  What I'm trying to say is I cannot believe the voices here who it would seem would love to advocate the loss of all personal responsibility...and that's what this entire long thread looks like to me.

      I know it's rough out there, especially in some areas of the country.  All the better now to be proactive and come up with creative solutions (and oh, yes, Virginia, they are out there...count on it), than whining and snarling and throwing tea bags.  Class of victims under socialism, heh!  We're already there--it's just more like the feudal lords took the sugar cubes out of the feeding stalls and made off with the manor's silver candelabras.  The serfs now have tooth aches and don't know what to do but stand in their cubi...stalls.

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No whining, this thread is only to state that the PRESIDENT made promises in which were not kept as a matter of fact they don't even enter into his plan, who knows what his plan is he never tells anyone anything no matter how much we ask, We do have a right to know. He was voted him in office, with the impression he was going to fix the economy. Here we are further in debt. That is not how you fix the economy.
        OK, HOW DO WE FIX IT? OR were are our ideas on  how to fix it. Oh yeah our views don't matter,  he won't listen to us, yeah those those town hall meeting, tea parties etc. is a perfect example .We are mearly American's sitting home watching the grass grow unless we are lucky enough to have found a job. Whining, at least we care enough to whine. At least we are not Judging how other's feel. We are American's Concerned out our future and our children and their children's future. Spending is way out of control. The Health Care Bill is something we cannot afford nor did we want,but they pushed it through regardless of what we said.

        What is ironic, is the people are scored on their debt to income ratio's via a credit scoring system created by governemnt and we get spanked w/ a high interest rate if our credit is short of perfect. When we try to get a loan.
        The governement however keeps borrowing and spending with out the ability to pay the debt back. However when people borrow and run into financial difficulty and are late on payments we are deemed to be irresponsable. Unfair don't you think? We can't do anything about it. Hence, my posting, impeach a president,improperly titled maybe, grammitical errors definately, unfinished sentences agreed. The fact something needs to be done still remains, because the president won't listen to us, I came up w/ an impeachement PETITION idea. Maybe we can't get him impeached unless he has dome something illegal, but he will hear us w/ a petition.  Obama is collapsing this country's abilty to survive by making the citizens rely on big government that is his big plan. You , expect American's not to whine? Funny, you must be perfectly fine during these hard times.Inherited money perhaps or have a family that is close helping each other out. Not everyone is that lucky, some of us ARE the family that helps out their children and have no one to rely on but themselves and built what they have and now are loosing everything. Stop whining ?Sad, the fact we have to. The day people stop whining is the day people stop caring. What then?

    14. tksensei profile image62
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago

      It'll be The Obama's last few days in office and some true believers will still be crying "give him more time!"


      Sorry, but...

      1. WeStand4Freedom profile image60
        WeStand4Freedomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Doubtful, if things keep going the direction in which they are currently

     
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