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BBC is reporting "Obama effigy hanged in Jimmy Carter's home town"

  1. The Rope profile image61
    The Ropeposted 7 years ago

    "...The US Secret Service says it is investigating after an effigy of Barack Obama was found hanging in the home town of former President Jimmy Carter.

    TV footage showed the doll hanging by a noose in front of a red, white and blue sign that reads "Plains, Georgia. Home of Jimmy Carter, our 39th President".

    Witnesses said the effigy had President Obama's name on it."

    1. AEvans profile image72
      AEvansposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What is the world coming to? The same people who voted are now the same ones who are upset. I don't get it, I just don't get it. sad

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        sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Actually, it looks like a works of supremacist. Not likely they voted for him.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image93
          Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Nope Sandra, probably not a supremacist.  Not many Georgians vote democrat in this state.  Just the work of our typical Georgia racists, I would imagine.  This isn't surprising at all if you've lived down here.

          1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
            Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I hope Sandra has a good alibi!

      2. SweetiePie profile image85
        SweetiePieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I have an inkling the people who created this effigy did not vote for Obama.

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      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      i read that in the paper this morning. whoever did that is in serious trouble. i bet they are combing it for fingerprints and DNA samples...

    3. rhamson profile image75
      rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Is it because Obama is black that the poor economy and the wars are raging on?  I thought it was the politics.  Boy that shows you what I know.

    4. Curious Jen profile image60
      Curious Jenposted 7 years ago in reply to this
    5. MikeNV profile image73
      MikeNVposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Why is this coming from the BBC and not the United States Media?

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        The BBC has better news! Generally there are many more news reports and the latest science information not available elsewhere till later if at all. smile

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          But, correct me if I'm wrong; they are foreigners right?  Can we trust any of those people?

          1. earnestshub profile image88
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol

            1. Dao Hoa profile image60
              Dao Hoaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              smile BBC usually the first to report the news and it is a trust worthy Media.

    6. Springboard profile image79
      Springboardposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I don't agree with Mr. Obama's policies. I think the path he is leading this country down is one which will have unintended consequences, and that while there was a bit of a mess over the last eight years, the current administration is only adding a new mess on top of it that we'll have to really get down to business fixing in 2014.

      None of my issues with him have anything at all to do with race, nor should it.

      This kind of stuff troubles me greatly. We are a better nation than this, and worst of all, with growing problems with our credibility overseas, this just adds fuel to the fire and makes our entire country look like buffoons..

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        A BIT OF A MESS?

        As in, "Katrina was a bit of a storm"?

        What pray tell will be fixed in 2014?

    7. sooner than later profile image60
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's a pretty common thing throughout history. Spanish speaking countries do this sort of thing all the time. I guess it would be a bad time to sell my obama piniata's?

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        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'll buy some. lol
        Would make good stress-relievers.
        I'm outta shoes to throw.

  2. kmackey32 profile image81
    kmackey32posted 7 years ago

    Me neither. People are messed up.

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    Instant Gratification is a disease that grips a great many American these days; that's sad.

  4. readytoescape profile image60
    readytoescapeposted 7 years ago

    Someone please tell the US SS I was no where near Georgia this a weekend.

    Is it just that it was Obama, or the POTUS that has everyone upset, or the effigy in general?

    There are a few college football coaches that would agree with the last.

    However it is a pretty stupid statement.

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    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    this was obviously the work of some racist idiots. those of us who voted for the President and dislike him now wouldn't do anything that stupid or outlandish

    1. Sa Toya profile image85
      Sa Toyaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol
      I think it's deff racist...just found out about it myself been out all day...but that's racists for ya...if the were racists hmm

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    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    yep. you know, i wouldn't want the Secret Service on my a$$. i pity those fools.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    It's scary when things like that happen.

    But I would hope that no one jumps to the conclusion that it's a racist act.

    Because there are other reasons someone might be angry about Obama.   One is the fact that he's shown himself to be a traitorous tyrant-wannabe.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You're absolutely wrong about that.  Hanging a black man in effigy in the U.S. South is of course a racist act.

      That doesn't mean we know anything more about who committed the act, other than the deliberate attempt to stir up emotions by exploiting racial conflict.

      Among the possibilities is that an Obama supporter did this in an attempt to tarnish his detractors.

    2. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm probably going to regret asking this, but I honestly want to know, because I hear this kind of stuff all the time.

      What, exactly, has Obama done that rises to the level of "traitorous"?

      Also, what, exactly, has he done that would earn him the label "tyrant"?

      On both questions, please be very specific.

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        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Traitorous actions are many.   Among them, his downing of the very basis of this nation,  including his anti-Christian crap and his defense of the CIA's handling of terrorist prisoners.

        Tyrant-----so you haven't watched him closely have you?!
        He's a bully who would be king.   I think he'd probably fit the label "narcissum" to a T, as Hitler did.   Not only does he bully the U.S. by manipulating our legal system;  he also has bullied Congress itself to force them to back his agenda.

        And the people always find an excuse for him,  or else find a patsy to take the fall for his actions.

        What other President would get by with letting Air Force One scare the crap outta New Yorkers,  and yet not blame HIM for it,  but lay the blame on someone else?

        What other President would get by with allowing a man to replace his Senate seat based directly and specifically on the fact that the replacement is black?

        Obama is succeeding in enslaving the minds of many.
        Some blacks, because he plays the race card into the history of the U.S.
        Some whites and others, because he, once again, plays the race card into U.S. history, sliding by on the perceived guilt-status that he apparently believes all whites should have.

        1. PrettyPanther profile image85
          PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ah, I regret it even more than I thought I would.

          roll

          You might want to study up a bit on what actual traitors do to get convicted of treason.  Also, maybe study a real tyrant or to.  Maybe you could start with Pol Pot?  Or Idi Amin?

        2. Randy Godwin profile image93
          Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Did you speak out against Dubya corrupting our justice system?  I seriously doubt it.  Like Ron, I wonder where you get your info.  Fox News, maybe? And Earnest is correct about the BBC being a great news source.

      2. readytoescape profile image60
        readytoescapeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Without trying to start the inevitable verbal war, but to answer your question what has he done, at least for question number 1 “traitorous” begins with the oath of office. US Constitution, Article II section 1

        "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

        The consensus of opinion from most conservatives and those in opposition is that Mr. Obama violated this oath, almost from the second he uttered the words, in that he willfully took the oath under pretense and had no intention of defending the Constitution and it’s Articles as written and intended.

        The belief is such an action is a violation of Article 2 section 4, in that he believes the Constitution to be nothing more than a list of “negative liberties” to be altered and shaped how he and/or the powers that be chose. He articulated this and much more of his beliefs in a 2001 radio interview. (a youtube search will easily find this and you can decide for yourself).

        There are also opinions that he is guilty of other violations pursuant to Article II section 4, “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

        And questions of his terror policies which could be construed as a violation of Article III section 3, “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

        As to tyranny, the options are open to interpretation of the actions he and the congress have so far perpetrated and still plan.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
          Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Why don't you provide us with the "list of Obama's violations" if you can.

          1. readytoescape profile image60
            readytoescapeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Personally, I think the first one is enough.

            Ralph as an educated and informed man I sure you have heard the interview I refered to in the above post. The man in his own carefully chosen words defined that he thought and fervently believed the Constitution was nothing more than a negative list "of what the government can't do to you" and should be used, applied and changed to enhance what the government should do "on your behalf". 

            If you haven’t please take the opportunity to do so, it is quite enlightening. The substance of course is liberal progressive fodder so it should be easy to listen too. The redistribution of wealth crowd may even be able to dance to it.

            In my opinion and that of many others he is incorrect, but certainly welcome to his on opinion however swearing and/or affirming “to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” while not believing in its tenants sure seems to be perjury if nothing else.

            That used to be a High Crime, maybe things have changed.

    3. Richard VanIngram profile image79
      Richard VanIngramposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, I'm sure race has nothing to do with it -- in a crazy state with a long and established history of white bigots lynching or abusing any black person they perceive as not staying "in their proper place."

      I was born and raised in Georgia, lived there 43 miserable years.  My mother was from South Georgia from around the Plains area and my father was from North Georgia in the Appalachian Mountains.  Racism is alive and well in Georgia at both ends of the state and many people are livid a black man actually got into office -- and a Democrat and educated "liberal" to boot. 

      However, whites in rural areas don't discuss their beliefs openly, most of them, as they know it is unfashionable and not accepted by "outsiders."  Instead, most are dressing up their hate by calling President Obama a "socialist," a "communist," a "traitor," and a "tyrant."  And worse.  What they really mean is he's black, not conservative, and they're angry he got into the White House where "his kind don't belong."

      I moved to Texas -- in part because the atmosphere is actually less racially charged here and more "liberal" than any place (except Atlanta) ever was in Georgia.  And that is sad.

  8. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 7 years ago
  9. Valerie F profile image61
    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    Regardless of the reason, hanging someone in effigy is inexcusable.

  10. Arthur Fontes profile image89
    Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago

    If they find those responsible what would the charges be??

    1. AnythingArtzy profile image82
      AnythingArtzyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well with the way things are looking under "lil" hitlers reign we may never know if they are caught. they may just ........disappear.


      and no I didn't vote for him in case you are wondering   smile  smile

      1. AnythingArtzy profile image82
        AnythingArtzyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Oh and if I never come back to hub pages after this post you know why smile

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
          Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I can hear the black helicopters circling...

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
            Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Again, I don't know how you can possibly hear them through your foil hat!

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        Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I would never have guessed.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    So.....if it was hung in a Northern State,  it wouldn't be racism maybe?

    I find that a silly argument.

    It's similar to echoes of the outrage when McCain called Obama "that one there",  which was simply a reference to Obama's leftist ignorance,  not his skin color.   Yet people jumped on it.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Among the many subjects you should consider reading up on, maybe some history?

    2. Ralph Deeds profile image71
      Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's not a silly argument. As you must be aware, lynching is an old tradition in the South and thus is especially sinister. It would be a racist act even in the North.

      1. creepy profile image61
        creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I think it would be sinister even in the North, at least it would be to me, you may have an entirely different view.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
          Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I agree.

  12. sweetypie1968 profile image93
    sweetypie1968posted 7 years ago

    It warms my heart to read so many positive posts undermining this hatred.  Back in the day they would have thrown a bonfire for these creeps! (If you get the meaning...)

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    Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago

    http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/ajesse55555.jpg

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Love it!
      Funny, but oh so true!

      1. PrettyPanther profile image85
        PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        My father, who was born in 1926 and grew up in rural Arkansas, witnessed several hangings.  All of the victims were black men. 

        Anecdotal, I know.

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          Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, I'm quite sure it does, and I'm also quite sure it isn't only a malady of whites. When we all stop jumping to conclusions that's when racism will be conquered, or at least recognized.

          1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
            Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Has anybody here said racism "is only a malady of whites?"

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              Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Nice try at the save! It has clearly been implied by the discussion from the get go. Just that fact that a black doll was hanged the assumption from the beginning was that it was by a white and therefore represents racism. If a black man hung that effigy, would it still be racism?

              1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Whatever the race of the person or persons who perpetuated the act, the act still represents racism.  Whoever did it knew full well the implications, as does everyone here, even if they want to pretend they don't.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago

    Was the hanging of Bush if effegy a racist act? How about if it was a black man that did it?

    If I was to hang an effigy of Obama to show my displeasure woth his policies, would I be a racist? What if I was black and had done so?

    You are all so quick to call something racist when you don't even have all of the facts. It is people like you that promote racism even when it can't be found!

    Was Obama a racist when he claimed the white cop acted stupidly in his handling of the gates arrest even before he had any facts, and where was the apology when he learned the cop did his job accordingly? Really, it's not ALWAYS about race!

    After all, Obama is Black so what color would an effigy of Obama be?

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Amusing, but not surprising that you don't understand the difference.

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        Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, I was hoping you could explain it to me, but of course that would be impossible for you since you've consistently shown yourself to be absent of any logical argument.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          By your understanding of "logic" lol, that is true.

          1. Randy Godwin profile image93
            Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  15. Randy Godwin profile image93
    Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago

    This is too funny.  I used to think racism was mainly in the south.  But it appears the south has no monopoly on ignorance.

    1. creepy profile image61
      creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Why would racism be mainly in the South?

      I have seen more racism in the Northeast than I saw in Alabama while I lived there.

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
        Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I grew up in Louisiana and have lived in Detroit for 30 years or so. There is plenty of racism in both places. But to my knowledge there have been no lynchings in Michigan. Just drive by shootings. Lynching has a special place in the history of the South.

        1. creepy profile image61
          creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What race is doing the majority of drive by shootings?

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          Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And how many of those drive by shootings have been black on black?

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Along the lines of this topic........

    What about the guy who was killed in one of the Southern States, I believe...........the census-taker, wasn't it?
    Was he white or black?


    Oh well I guess I should read up on that more.

    In the meantime, rest assured there is now blatant racism in the White House, as well as socialism and sinister tyranny..

    1. creepy profile image61
      creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That actually turned out to be a suicide

    2. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You don't think Cheney was sinister and tyrannical?

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        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Not that I know of!   He was just clumsy and maybe in a hurry.
        But he for sure wasn't audacious enough nor stupid enough to stand in front of the American people and spout stupidity and racism and anti-Americanism and anti-Christ crap.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    You're kidding!
    Wow, looks like the news moves too fast for me to say up on it.....

    1. creepy profile image61
      creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      not kidding

  18. Arthur Fontes profile image89
    Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


    Barack Obama will cement the new co-operative relationship between the US and the United Nations this month when he becomes the first American president to chair its 15-member Security Council.

    Is he the president?  or the UN security council leader? One or the other!! Combination of the two is TREASON!!

    1. creepy profile image61
      creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Was consent from the congress given?

      1. Arthur Fontes profile image89
        Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No but then Uncle Ted Kennedy never asked Congress before he accepted knighthood from the UK.  How is congress relevant when you are an annointed one..

    2. readytoescape profile image60
      readytoescapeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Interesting point, I had not read that yet.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Sorry Poppa Blues.  My response was to creepy.   I shoulda posted the quote.

  20. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Do you people know anything about lynchings?

    Isn't Plains the same place that had separate churches for blacks and whites when Carter was president?

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      Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Do you know anything about effigies?

    2. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      There are still plenty of segregated churches in Georgia, UW.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.  Down here anyway.

      1. creepy profile image61
        creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        segregated by law or by choice?

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          Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          This is the wisest question I've seen so far.

          If if were possible for that to be properly answered,  and honestly answered, by both blacks and whites,  we might actually have a chance to stop the racial battle.

        2. Randy Godwin profile image93
          Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Mostly fear and tradition!

          1. creepy profile image61
            creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            So why not be the first to overcome the fear and tradition and join a black/white church?

            1. Randy Godwin profile image93
              Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I have long overcome fear and tradition, it's why I do not go to church at all.

              1. creepy profile image61
                creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Ok then

              2. Ron Montgomery profile image61
                Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Hmmmm, and all this time I thought you went to one of those where they handle snakes.

                1. Randy Godwin profile image93
                  Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Hey Ron!  Yes, I visited one of the snake handling churches once.  I heard there was an albino diamondback rattler being passed around by the church members and wanted to get a look, snake aficionado that I am. 

                  Sure enough,the snake was brandished around before being handed over to the members with the most faith.  I was unknown in those parts so I stepped in line and waved the poor creature around like everyone else.  But not before noticing his fangs (a rattler has several sets in case they break off) had been removed. 

                  But no, I had my fill of religion at an early age.

                  1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
                    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Damned snake handling heretics.

  21. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    But you have to admit it sends a different message when it is a black man in the United States. Why are you defending the idiot who did it, no matter what the reason?

    1. creepy profile image61
      creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      isnt obama half white?

      1. PrettyPanther profile image85
        PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Your point?

        1. creepy profile image61
          creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          My point should be obvious, he is neither black or white, he transcends race, at least I read that on the Huffington Post

          1. PrettyPanther profile image85
            PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Your point is stupid, and you know it.

            1. creepy profile image61
              creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Stupid? Maybe, just as stupid as anything written here. I have read that people in the South are more racist than they are in the North, where is the poll on this gem?

              1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Where did you read that?  I must've missed it.

                1. creepy profile image61
                  creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I doubt you missed it you are just not seeing the same things I am. I am from the Northeast and lived in Alabama for three years, I see more racism in the North than I ever saw in the South, and I was looking for it.

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Well, if someone said it, I don't agree with it myself.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            creepy,
            he has basically disavowed his "white" heritage.

            I guess it's easier for him to obtain compassion for his agenda that way.

  22. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Some hear what they want to hear.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      And some defend racism based on who's in power.

  23. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    I will not argue with trolls
    I will not argue with trolls
    I will not argue with trolls

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    I will not take crap from liberals
    I will not take crap from liberals
    I will not take crap from liberals

    Especially those who harrass conservatives by accusing them of hatred and calling them trolls.

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Who is harrassing you?

      And I was not referring to you, you should be careful of jumping to conclusions.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    creepy,
    there's nothing stupid about the facts you pointed out.
    Just 'cause Obama stays mum about his own heritage doesn't mean the average intelligent person shouldn't be able to discuss it without being called stupid.

    PrettyPanther is vewwy vewwy rude.

    very very rude.

    1. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Naw, he actually admitted his point was stupid.  Did you miss that?

      I didn't call HIM stupid, that would be rude.

      1. creepy profile image61
        creepyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        It was to make a larger point, not to stir up trouble.

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    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    Brenda, Google "lynching". that should explain why this is racist.

  27. Arthur Fontes profile image89
    Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago

    This reminds me of the Flag episode of South Park

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      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile

      "hot shower, hot shower!"

      oh i had forgotten about that hee hee

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
        Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Where is your bunny hitting head against wall animation?

      2. Siotosh profile image60
        Siotoshposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        They might have being inspired by some of the sick thinking, of Christian Conservative on Hubpages forum.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
          Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Very possibly. HubPages attracts all kinds.

          1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
            Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I think Brenda did it, she is too defensive smile

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              Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I don't think I'm defensive, as much as I'm offensive to liberals.  I rather enjoy that thought.  I've no interest in whether they like me or not, since I'm quite at ease with sticking to principles.   Obama's and other liberals' views aren't really principles; they're opinions, and opinions based on a selfish agenda.

              1. livelonger profile image88
                livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Your opinions are principles, while those of people who don't agree with you are just opinions. Are you an elitist?

          2. AEvans profile image72
            AEvansposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            The entire situation disgusts me, racists, supremist, Christian, Non-Christian the entire thing makes me nauseous to say the least. sad

          3. Siotosh profile image60
            Siotoshposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I know Bibo for grown ups

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              Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Do y'all think if you repost the word "sick" enough times, it will make it so?

              I consider the liberal view quite "sick" myself.

              1. Siotosh profile image60
                Siotoshposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Me too sick liberal: I'm a Fedelist

    2. Ron Montgomery profile image61
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Are you saying a bunch of 3rd graders did it? smile

      1. Arthur Fontes profile image89
        Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        In south park their flag had 4 white guys lynching a black man and the citizens of south park claimed it was their historical heritage while chef very correctly considered it racist.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I saw the episode, but took something entirely different from it. In the end the boys were figuratively "color blind".  They did not realize there was a racial message behind the flag.  Chef was touched by the explanation given by the "little crackers".  Such innocence is endearing when represented by 9 year olds.  It is disgusting when adults claim to not be able to see racism where it clearly exists.  A person who claims to not understand the signifigance of the act that started this discussion is hopefully just fooling themselves and not actually that ignorant.  It's frightening to think of these people actually walking among us, or even worse operating a motor vehicle.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    hmmm....
    ya mean like in the old West, where robbers and other outlaws were lynched??    Was that racist??  lol

    ahhh....so do you see how judgemental your view is?

    I'm not saying the discussed-example wasn't racist!
    I'm just saying neither you nor I know if it WAS.


    And there's one thing about it.....

    there's a habit going around these days where anyone who's black can say just about anything they want to,  while whites cannot.
    Case in point-----the black comedian who said she hoped Rush Limbaugh's kidneys fail.   How horrible!   And she and others pretend that Rush saying he hopes Obama fails is a racist statement!
    I hope Obama fails too, in his agenda!   Bacause his agenda is radically-anti-American and just plain wrong.  Has nothing to do with his skin color from my view.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Another case in point---
    I saw a bit of The View this morning.
    Whoopie Goldberg sat there, itching to attack, while 3 white actors from All My Children were interviewed.
    Guess what her question was, the one she just couldn't wait to pounce with?--------she asked them, in an accusatory tone, if any of them had considered being with a black woman.

    What difference does it make whether the actors are black or white?

    And indeed, if there had been three hunky black actors on there, I bet she wouldn't have asked such a stupid racist question!

  30. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Asking such a question is not racist. What does an "accusatory tone" sound like?

    And I think soap operas should mix race lines more often. There was a huge outcry about the Young and the Restless having a mixed race couple. Of course, it's got nothing to do with the actors, they don't have a choice.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Of course her question was racist!
      And hugely rude.
      I don't understand why Whoopie isn't fired already.
      She had the nerve to take up for that guy (what's his name...Roman Polanski??)  who raped an underage girl.

      Could it be (gulp) that the producers are afraid to fire Whoopie 'cause she's ...black??   I think so.

  31. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    By the way, what did Colin Powell do or say that was racist?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      He caved in to his racism the day he came out of his liberal pretend-Republican closet and backed Barack Obama publicly.

      No self-respecting Republican (or patriotic American) would've played that game, thereby sealing the Presidency with his defection.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Self-respecting Republican is an oxymoron.  No one with an ounce of self-esteem can hate so many people.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Are you referring to Republicans as haters?   Or what?


          Anyway, I think the people who HAVE too much self-esteem are the haters.

          They love no one but themselves.  They don't love God because it would detract from their view of themselves.
          They don't love other people because they only think of themselves.

  32. Arthur Fontes profile image89
    Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago

    Racism: Does anyone think the thousands of fans that attend Atlanta Braves games going through the tomahawk chop through the entire game Racist.

    How about still calling your team the Braves just a little Racist.

    Could you imagine the Detroit nah I am not even going to say it.
    It would be below me.

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Things like that are not racism. They may be insensitive, but not racist

  33. Arthur Fontes profile image89
    Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago

    Ron Montgomery   I agree like most of their episodes the South Park guys make a good point.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      And needle some people who really deserve it. (sort of like a hubber I know)

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    By the way,
    Whoopie may be a racist black woman,
    but Joy Behar is a mean nasty white woman.
    It would be nice if they fired both of 'em.

  35. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    I don't watch the View, can't stand that they all talk at once. Why not fire Elizabeth too? I say, fire the bunch of them...

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Elizabeth is.....too soft.


      Oh, hey, why not??---fire 'em all.  haha

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Are you two gonna sing koom ba ya now? smile

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          Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          LOL
          that'll be the day.  Right, uninvited writer?!
          haha

          1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
            Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I was going to post Joan Baez singing it but I thought that might upset you smile

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              Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Depends on which song.

              She had one that I really liked....can't think of the name of it right now...

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
                Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I remember the lyrics though not the title:

                If I had a hammer...

                I'd hammer me some lib er als

                I'd hammer me some commies

                All over this land

                I'd hammer some unions

                I'd hammer socialists

                I'd hammer in love between

                My brothers and my sisters

                although not brothers and brothers

                or sisters and sisters

                because the bible says it's an abomination.....

                All over this laaa aaaa aaand!

                1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                  PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Is it possible to be in love with a football helmet, cuz I think I am!  wink

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You're very talented.

                  Where's a winky smiley thingy when I need one?.....
                  I dunno how to do those....

                  NO that's not the song.  haha

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    I feel like hugging a tree.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I can go in my back yard and hug a tree about any ol' day.....

      Does it evoke some particular feeling in you?

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        Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah a rough, barky texture.

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    Easy to be hard? Nope. Sung in Hair, but not her, Three Dog Night too.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol
      That's the other thread mister.

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        Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, that one slowed down way to much, though. big_smile

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    I love Three Dog Night.

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      Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Their music is absolutely timeless.

    2. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You must really like this one:


      Black and White

      The ink is black
      The page is white
      Together we learn to read and write
      The child is black
      The child is white
      The whole world looks upon the sight
      The beautiful sight

      And now a child can understand
      That this is the law of all the land
      All the land

      The world is black
      The world is white
      It turns by day and then by night
      The child is black
      The child is white
      Together they grow to see the light
      To see the light

      And now at last we plainly see
      We'll have a dance of liberty
      The world is black
      The world is white
      It turns by day and then by night
      The child is black
      The child is white
      The whole world looks upon the sight
      The beautiful sight

      The world is black
      The world is white
      Tt turns by day and the by night
      The child id black
      The child is white
      Together they grow to see the light
      To see the light

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Yes, that's a favorite one of mine.
    Good song.

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    George Orwell just finished grilling some Filet Mignons, anyone hungry? big_smile

    1. lorlie6 profile image87
      lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Who's for lamb?

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        Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You're awful. big_smile

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
          Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol

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            lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol lol

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        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/_arquivo_hannibal_lecter-copy.jpg

        Love some!

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    I'm just saying that the next Administration is going to have its slew of detractors, and so on and so on......

  42. Randy Godwin profile image93
    Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago

    I was in high school when the first two black students entered the building.  Everything became quiet as everyone stood in front of their home room watching.  I was so afraid they would be harmed by the students as they walked down the hall.  Yes, the N word was hissed at them, but they held their heads high. They  were dressed in white shirts with ties as if it were Sunday.

    I can't imagine how frightened they were or how they slept the night before.  The black schools here were terrible.  Second hand books and school equipment the white schools no longer needed.  No black person worked at anything other than as a janitor or maid.  Many worked in tobacco fields for little money. 

    So, to the person who suggested integration did not do much good, You have not seen the things I have or you would reconsider your words.  Or perhaps you do not care, either way, you are wrong.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm not really interested in what you've seen, because I've seen or heard from reliable others just as much myself.

      Let me say this-----the teachers and other administrators, knowing the volatility of the situation, should've been very watchful and punished those kids who hissed the "N" word.    THAT is what the agenda should've been-----teaching kids (on both "sides") right from wrong;  NOT FORCING them to enter into a volatile situation such as came from bussing kids into different schools.
      And I daresay the same decency and respect should've been taught to the black children as well.
      It isn't that I "don't care", at all!  It's that it's clear to me that one cannot be forced to like someone!  Nor should they be!    They CAN be forced to respect humans as humans, however.   THAT's the discipline that should've occurred,  not the legalistic hogwash that was pulled on both blacks and whites.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image93
        Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I have no doubt as to your lack of interest in my experiences.  I also have no doubt as to your lack of knowledge concerning how white children down here were taught in respect to black people in general.

        I think most here get your message.  It is as old as time.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          As is your own opinion.

          I know one thing for sure, and that is how I was taught!  I was taught that it doesn't matter whether someone is black or white; it only matters what kind of person they are.
          And that is what I still believe today.

          So you can take your insinuations and.....shove 'em back into your own biased little mind.

          1. Randy Godwin profile image93
            Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Spoken by a true Christian!

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              Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Very true.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image93
                Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You sound like you are from the bible belt.  North Carolina I would guess.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Ky actually, and the Ky "hills" actually, and purty dern glad of it.  ha

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image93
                    Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Dang it!  I always get those two accents mixed up.

                  2. Ron Montgomery profile image61
                    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Are you familiar with a town in the hills called "Yosemite"?

  43. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Hangings are not unique just to blacks either.

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    And now a word from our sponsors.....

  45. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    you can search photos of pres bush hanging as well.

  46. livelonger profile image88
    livelongerposted 7 years ago

    Randy: There's a difference between Christians and "Christianists."

    1. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I know, LiveLonger.  Sometimes my sarcasm isn't too apparent to the sarcasee. LOL

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    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    explain

    1. livelonger profile image88
      livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Why, when Google can do the job quite nicely?

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Ya know, those Ky hills from whence people come who are these days often labeled "ignorant" and "prejudiced" and other things!
    Which are indeed false accusations in general.

    I've found that prejudice and hatred isn't confined to any one group of people nor any specific area of this nation nor the world.

    It's a thing that's either in your heart or not in your heart to love your fellow man no matter the color of his skin or the amount of money he makes or their situation in life.

    Me, specifically.....I don't LIKE a lot of people,  because of either their views or their actions, or simply personal preference,  but I was taught to Love the soul of each person on earth.   That, too, is a product that comes not only through the more educated and the richer,  but through simple humanity, whether it's taught in a one-room schoolhouse in an all-white neighborhood, or in a "diverse" situation.
    Which is simply more proof that forced desegregation isn't the answer, and only caused worse problems.
    Because no one can be forced to "like" someone, as I said, especially when that forcing is simply for the sake of forcing,  and also places people into even another set of "groups"........one, a guilt-tripping-non-genuine one,  the other, a retaliation/vengeance-filled one.  Neither is good.

    1. livelonger profile image88
      livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Agreed. It certainly isn't rare at all among those who boast about being "real Americans" and "Christian" all the time. In my experience, if anything it's far more common among these people.

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        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        (sigh) are you referring to me?

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          livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          There is a large number of elitists who loudly claim to be Christian (but act like Pharisees more than Christians) and "real American" but disrespect the American tradition to respect differences. Those are the people I'm talking about; I have no idea if you're one of them or not.

          1. Mitch Rapp profile image60
            Mitch Rappposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I don't expect anyone to respect my views, if someone disagrees with me I fully expect to hear about it. That, too me is American.

            1. livelonger profile image88
              livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Agreed.

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        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        easy now tiger. I have seen some pretty harsh words spoken out of many 'elitist' groups. Some have standards to uphold. Some pretend that they are better than everyone and don't need standards.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Euro-American! If we don't agree with you we're hater-bigot-homophobes. The only way you would accept us is if we denounce God, support gay rights and kiss a tree. "Live" it's time to get a life sweetie.

  49. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Ugh. this just had to happen in GA, didn't it. Kinda makes me ashamed to claim it as my home state. I think it was a horrible thing to do, just like I thought it was horrible when it was done to Palin. Of course, a lot of people didn't find that too offensive.

    I'll state right now, I am not racist. Ask any student I've ever taught. The thing I often find amusing is that it often seems the ones who yell loudest about equality are whites who like the "idea" of equality, but not the reality of it. How many black friends do you have? How often have you had them in your home? Shared a hotel room with them? Gone out to lunch with them? Gone to parties with a member of another race?

  50. mel22 profile image61
    mel22posted 7 years ago

    http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae353/photomel22/sarah-palin-effigy-halloween.jpg It happens to white republican women too. While it may be racist it could also be about the bad economy and times we live in.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Cool.  Thanks for posting this.  I remembered the incident being reported by the News, but didn't have access to posting that.   I'm glad someone did;  very relevant to this thread subject.

    2. livelonger profile image88
      livelongerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I am no Palin lover at all, by any means, but I think this is disgusting. You can say whatever you want about this politician, but to threaten violence is really awful.

      1. Mitch Rapp profile image60
        Mitch Rappposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I happen to Like Palin but I don't see a threat of violence.

 
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