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Obama: Are you sorry he got elected?

  1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
    Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago

    This is the third time I am asking this. The second time more people said, yes. With all polls showing his approval rate dropping fast,that must mean more Hubber's have turned sour on him also.

    What do you have to say, and why do you approve/disapprove?

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image84
      Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I have never been an Obama supporter, and I will also never admit that McCain would have been better. I sure as hell won't say that Palin would be the right choice.

      The simple fact is that both parties are the same. We're not sorry we elected Obama, we're sorry that a Democrat is in office. We're not sorry we eleceted Bush, we're sorry we had a Republican in office.

      The simple truth is that the parties aren't different, and our only hope is to get a third party so that the candidates don't sell out. Our only hope is to return to the Constitution and actually hold our elected officials responsible.

      Let's get rid of this 'incumbents get it eas' nonsense - vote em out BECAUSE they're incumbents (of course, unless you really like them *cough cough * Ron Paul *cough cough*)

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Evan,

        If you have a choice of voting for the same two choices (in many cases it will be); what then?

    2. Friendlyword profile image61
      Friendlywordposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I am so disappointed in him.  He was suppose to walk on water...WHY HASN'T HE DONE IT YET.  I'm still waiting....

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Friendly,

        He did trip on his words many times.

    3. rei.wired profile image61
      rei.wiredposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It is still to early to tell for sure...

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        rei,

        Too early to see where the country is headed; look at Greece.

        1. tobey100 profile image61
          tobey100posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Give it time, if you're not sorry now, you will be at the rate things are going.

    4. getitrite profile image80
      getitriteposted 6 years ago in reply to this



      http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg209/erickgonzalez122/HATERS.jpg

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        get,

        Being a realist is not hate.

    5. The Donkey profile image60
      The Donkeyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Take a look at what Obama is dealing with: 1- Being the first black president, 2- economy crisis, 3- health care plan, 4- the war in iraq, 5- death threats, and many more issues. I don't see many people having success at this time. Once we get untangled from this mess, I think he'll be a good president. He's got a lot of characteristics going for him. Patience, America. Patience...

      1. davidwpa profile image60
        davidwpaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Other than being the first black President those other issues are no more or less important than issues any of his 40 some odd predecessors faced in the White House.  I mean let's get some perspective, none of these issues even collectively come close to the problems facing FDR or Lincoln or Washington or Wilson.  And before we look at the War in Iraq, it is nowhere on the level of the wars Wilson, FDR and especially Lincoln had to deal with. 

        Obama's plate is full, but he wanted the job and knew what it was going into it so you can't cry that those issues are holding him back.

        And to answer the original topic, I was sorry he beat Hilary Clinton, I don't think he was the Dems best choice for the White House because he had little experience and I was sorry John McCain seemed relieved when he lost which scared me more than anything else and makes me kinda happy he didn't win.  We didn't have any choice in the last election.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
          Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          The Party of NO is holding him back as well as some blue donkey Democrats. Do you actually think it makes sense to sabotage his every proposal and then criticize him for lack of accomplishments?

          1. ledefensetech profile image81
            ledefensetechposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Sabotage every proposal?  What world are you living in?  The Dems had total control over the White House, Senate and House.  They could have passed anything they wanted, the didn't need Republican help.  The problem hasn't been Republicans obstructing the President, the problem has been the President's own party obstructing him.

            1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
              Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              That is a quite simplistic and innacurate claim. Until the past few years the Republicans and the Democrats could nearly always count on a few votes from the other party and to have a few members of their own party vote against their proposals based on their conception of the public interest or their own particular political considerations from their state or congressional district. More recently the parties have become polarized to the point where in the Obama administration some members of Congress have voted along party lines against the interest of their own constituents. Thanks to the Constitution that provides two senators from each state regardless of population and the Senate filibuster rule Obama has not been in control of all the senators in his own party, and he has received zero cooperation from the Republicans. Many of the greatest senators in the past-Vandenberg from Michigan, Norris from Nebraska, Brooke from Massachusetts, Johnson, McCain, and many others had good relationships with senators in the opposite party and were able to work out compromises in the public interest. This is no longer true. The Republicans and the Blue Dog Democrats are running scared of the Tea Partiers. Blaming Obama for this is unfair.

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      soumyasrajanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      As you know I am not an American but I visit USA often for long periods. I am also indeed puzzled at how he and his team are handling things. Or are they handling at all? I remember once while in USA many years ago, one of my French friend was saying "Americans sing so much about their two parties but very few realize that  they have just two copies of one party". Some times, (now quite often) you feel may be his sarcasm was right. A little bit of this phenomena seems to be developing in most democratic countries. But looks like time being USA has championship.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I dunno if I responded to the 2 previous threads or not.
      Anyway, I'll respond to this one.

      YES I'm sorry the sorry Obama got elected.

      I was sorry that people even let him Campaign, considering he made his immoral, unpatriotic agenda known in the first place.

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      kenzie10posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      ahhhh... mcain you done it again!!

    9. Humma Ofi profile image59
      Humma Ofiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      My impression of Obama suffered when I heard his campaign rhetoric on what he intended to do when elected to office. As a result, massive layoffs in  industries un- related to the auto industry, banking, and housing, for fear of government sucking thier profits and "evening things out".  Downsizing became the norm, and unemployment went from bad to unimaginable. I don't think things would have turned this ugly, this fast, if a Republican was elected. I am sorry that, out of all the politicians out there, there isn't one I would trust with my garbage.

    10. commisioner profile image60
      commisionerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      i did not or would i ever support obama. i am a conservative. do not think i am a racist. if my 1st and 3rd wives thought i was a racist, they would find me and kick my ass. obama is everything i hate in a politician. he's a socialist which i have fought against a few times. he is a fraud and could not tell the truth if held at gunpoint. he is condisending to all who oppose him thinking he knows better than we do on how to live. he is immoral and surrounds himself with tax cheats, terrorist(self proclaimed ones at that) and people looking to destroy the constitution i swore to protect. he demeans our men and women in uniform and he can't even pronounce their job titles correct.
      telepromted this obama"I QUIT" WONDER IF HE WOULD NOTICE WHAT HE READ BEFORE HE SAID IT??

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      woolman60posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I am not a politician or a political analyst just an American who needs to speak his peace. America is scared and the politicians need to know!!!

                  The United States has always been and will always have people looking for Presidential failures.

                  This is not exclusive to President Obama; therefore I don’t think it’s a race issue, because this failure issue has always been in existence.

                  What happens is it becomes a blaming match, and yes we see that every day during the Health Care Reform and any other bill that needs to pass through Congress. If anyone needs to be blamed, it is the Executive, the Judicial, and the Legislative branches of government.

                  There are differences of opinions in Congress and what solutions would work best on problems here at home and abroad.

                  Core policy and party differences, every President has faced. This is not exclusive to President Obama either.

                  This country was not built on its people lacking awareness and following in a blind stupor to a single man, whether it is Congressmen, Congresswomen or the President. 

                  What I feel that scares the American people, is the politician and/or politicians who have their own agenda’s, not for the state which he or she represents or even the people who voted them into their positions, all they want to do is upstage the President, and are looking for him to be a failure at what he has promised the people of America. Then after everything they do, they tell all the American people, not just their state but all of America, what a failure the President is and scare us into thinking the President is bad for the country. A simple way to explain or compare what they do is this, “the weatherman tells the American public on national television, to expect two feet of snow, and everyone goes out and spends money on supplies, towns and cities give overtime, schools close, businesses close and this puts everyone into panic mode, then it never happens”. You may not agree with me but I am just trying to explain this in the simplest way I can.

                  Well I am not going to fall for the Republican tactics any more, and here is why.  After hearing the Republicans this week with the President, I have come to a conclusion that the Republicans are trying to make the President look like a failure.

                  The Republicans are strange, controlling, mean spirited and disrespectful people, not to say some Democrats are not, but Republicans stand out more at this time. I see the Republicans in Washington as “Hardcore Republicans “with their own agenda’s, and it seems to me that the Republicans, show more prejudice and disrespect towards the President, and I wonder if this is because they lost control of the country since President Obama has been voted in by the “American People”.

                  The President’s plan for better health care in America is to provide quality, affordable and portable coverage for all. He plans to make available a new national health plan to all U.S. citizens, which will include the self-employed and small businesses.

                  I have spoken my peace and I hope people will take time to think before they react, I respect everyone’s thoughts and I know some of you will not understand or even care for mine, however all I am trying to say is lets  not make failure our only option in America, lets work together as one to do what is right for all Americans.

      1. Sab Oh profile image61
        Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        "America is scared and the politicians need to know!!!"


        America is not scared. Many Americans are angry right now at the arrogant SOBs in Washington who think they know better and will therefore force us to 'take our medicine,' The "just sit down, shut up, and do what we tell you - you'll understand later," attitude does not sit well with Americans.

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          Kenrick Chatmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes... that mentality of George W (my way or the highway) is one of the reasons why Obama was elected into the office.

          1. Sab Oh profile image61
            Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Oh, so you don't like that attitude? Then why have you been expressing here for weeks?

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    A Texanposted 6 years ago

    I'm not sorry, every once in a while you have to elect someone completely incompetent to show how much a bad idea it really was to vote for someone because the media told you too!

    1. Siotosh profile image59
      Siotoshposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      So true, you had Bush the incompetent and nonsense seamed like sense. Now sense seam like nonsense, it's so confusing, after having Bush as president, the fool that fool the fool. lol My head is starting to hurt

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      (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      If someone is incompetent enough to get elected president, what does that say about your competence?

      1. davidwpa profile image60
        davidwpaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Being snookered has nothing to do with being incompetent Q.  Incompetent people fool others all the time.

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          (Q)posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, other incompetent people.

          1. davidwpa profile image60
            davidwpaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            That's not necessarily true.  Look at Jimmy Carter

    3. davidwpa profile image60
      davidwpaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Good point.

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
        Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Actually a very "incompetent" point.

        1. davidwpa profile image60
          davidwpaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That's your opinion, and I was being sarcastic.

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    barryliamposted 6 years ago

    I really dont care, but then again im not american

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      chasingcarsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Where do you live?  How are politics in your part of the world?  Hopefully you are not having to deal with a bunch of mean, dumbass conservos who know nothing and pretend to know all.

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        chasing,

        I am a Centrist, but these days liberal's call me a conservative. Both Parties have moved left, check it out.

      2. Sab Oh profile image61
        Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        So, Mr. Chasing, you really only have the one thing to say on any subject, is that it? I think we get it by now: you don't like conservatives. Check. Move on.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 6 years ago

    I didn't vote for him so my opinion of him hasn't changed... well okay maybe I do think less of him now after learning more about him and seeing him in action. He's a disaster for this country, as I had expected, though the degree and speed with which he's destroying this nation is beyond what even I believed possible!

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Poppa,

      That's only because he has the House and the Senate. Without them he would be the nothing he is.

  5. Ron Montgomery profile image61
    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago

    No, I'm only sorry I didn't vote for him.  I will add my vote to his landslide victory over whichever teabagger runs against him in 2012.

    When you look at the people he pisses off, you've gotta love him.

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      A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Uhhhh, you're the only one he hasn't pissed off.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
        Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Exhibit A

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          A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Sorry Ron, he doesn't really piss me off, he is incompetent, even with total control he can't get anything done.

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
            Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            But.... a moment ago you said I was the only one he hadn't pissed off...

            Are you saying you and I are the same person?

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              A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I clarified in the next post, but yes, we are one in the same!

      2. brimancandy profile image82
        brimancandyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Obama has not pissed me off. I certainly voted for him, and would do it again. People are saying bad things about him without weighing the alternative, which would have been a McCain/Palin administration.

        Hilary Clinton would not be our secretary of state, and we would probably lose some really good politians, to bring in more hardcore nutjobs, who would set our freedoms back several decades. Does this sound better to you? I would rather move to Canada.

        Obama isn't the problem, it is a republican scheme to block everything he is trying to accomplish to make him, and the Democratic party look bad, setting aside the fact that we suffered for 8 years under their guy, who pretty much ruined this country for everyone, with their helping hands.

        So, give the Obama bashing a rest.

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          wordscribe41posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Ditto, agree 100%.  No regrets here voting for Obama.

        2. Sab Oh profile image61
          Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          " I would rather move to Canada."


          I believe that anyone who ever says that, should. Now.

          1. davidwpa profile image60
            davidwpaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Yeah, if they had done that in 2000 when W was elected we wouldn't have to deal with Obama right now...go Alec Baldwin...lol

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          sneakorocksolidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That sounds like the Dems and Bush and it sounds like the Reps and Clinton.....Hmmmm.

        4. World Marketing profile image59
          World Marketingposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Well Put!

        5. Harvey Stelman profile image60
          Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          brim & like,

          We will never know what would have been, but don't forget the Congress would still be Democratic. I hate when one party controls everything. Did you enjoy yesterdays meeting? The Dem's will now try to push their agenda through by themselves, to hell with the electorate.

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            A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Let em, they will pay the price for it! A new CNN poll says support for health care bill is 25%, so lets see what numbnuts does!

        6. tobey100 profile image61
          tobey100posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Brimancandy, the Republicans can't block anything.  You guys keep spouting the same line but the majority of us know its your own Democratic brothers that can't pass squat.  What Obama wants is the cover of bipartisanship to hide behind when things go down the drain.  That's what he's done his whole life.  All this crap about compromise is a joke.  To Obama and the Democrats, compromise is like a man going to a doctor with a stomach ache.  The doctor wants to cut off his legs.  Should Republicans compromise and only cut off one leg?  No.  Republicans aren't blocking anything.  At least some elected officials are A: listening to the people (72% as of yesterday are against ObamaCare) and B: willing to say not just no but hell no.

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image84
      Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      He's pissed off everyone that wants an end to the Iraq war, the return to the Constitution, the closure of Guantanamo Bay, a balanced budget, reduced gov't spending...

      ...

      If you want to piss off these kinds of people, then, boy - howdy. I dunno what to say.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
        Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        And yet you continue to say it..........

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        sneakorocksolidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What?.......You need to go watch some Fox or ESPN, just turn it off!

    3. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ron,

      You do?

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    LegendaryHeroposted 6 years ago

    I'm sorry he got elected, but on the other hand he is one of the best things to happen for the Republicans.

    I'm especially annoyed with him today because I found out that he has committed an illegal act, which he will get away because it will not be brought up.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/ … s-opponent

    He tried bribing a Democratic politician to not run by offering him a political appointment, which is illegal according to:

    18 U.S.C. § 210 : US Code - Section 210: Offer to procure appointive public office

    Whoever pays or offers or promises any money or thing of value,
    to any person, firm, or corporation in consideration of the use or
    promise to use any influence to procure any appointive office or
    place under the United States for any person, shall be fined under
    this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

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      chasingcarsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      We who voted for him and would again in a heartbeat know that he is just way better at his job than anyone you have ever voted for.  Case in point:  the last two elections.  We know you would like to distance yourselves from the absolute disaster the last bunch of conservos made,  Lot's of luck with that!  He has outmaneuvered you at every turn.  Your own party is in shambles.  It is time to stop gloating.  It's rather embarassing and disheartening for people who still believe in a two-party system.

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        LegendaryHeroposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I've never voted for anyone for starters. I haven't been old enough to vote in any election. And who said that I would have voted for Bush twice or voted for McCain? And also, you have no idea what things would have been like if McCain were elected, it's impossible to know what would have happened.

        How was I distancing myself from anything Bush? My party is not in shambles and neither is the Republican Party. The GOP is gaining more power everyday because of Obama and Congress.

        How was I gloating. Two party systems are more effective than multi-party systems.

        It was rather disheartening to read your response to my post, all you did was post a bunch of nonsense that had nothing to do with what I wrote.

      2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        chasing,

        There are many problems with what you say. The Republican's have never stopped anything, they don't have enough votes to do it. It's the Democrat's that have stopped Obama and are in shambles.

        Republican's in shambles:
        New Jersey
        Virginia
        Massachusetts

  7. SheriSapp profile image61
    SheriSappposted 6 years ago

    I agree with legendary hero, the election of this unqualified, inexperienced, naive, preogressive moron is one of the BEST thing to happen for/to the republican party in a long while. I hope we don't find a way to blow it!!

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Sheri,

      It depends on what he pushes through before November.

  8. caravalhophoto profile image59
    caravalhophotoposted 6 years ago

    Not at all sorry I voted for Obama.  I'm thinking on a more realistic note however...he has only had a year to fix what Bush did in 8...it takes time.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      car,

      Incorrect about being a realist. In one year he has driven the debt up by trilliions. Bush didn't do that in eight years. The dollar is declining and countries don't want to by our paper. Inflation will sky-rocket, it hasbegun. What will happen when the dollar is no longer the international trading standard?

  9. Ohma profile image80
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    Obama is now and always has been a joke. There is no major secret to why he got elected and as far as legendary's link that just cinches it. I live in Pa. and the only bigger clown in politics than obama is Arlen Spectar.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ohma,

      Well said!

  10. MikeNV profile image75
    MikeNVposted 6 years ago

    I was sorry George Bush got elected.  And the alternative was equally as bad.  Imagine the destruction that Gore could have done to the economy with his selfish agenda.

    It seems like it's always up to use to pick the lesser of 2 evils based on what we believe a candidate "Might" do.

    Has there ever been a candidate that has "walked the walk"?

    I am no Obama Fan anyone who reads my post clearly knows that.

    But I wonder would we be any better off with McCain.  I mean he was not much of a candidate in my opinion. He was part of the Savings and Loan Scandal years back.

    What do you do when both parties just keep feeding us Puppets that do not have our interests at heart?

    Yeah I think Obama sucks... but who doesn't suck?

    Both parties have played a role in destroying the middle class.  So we have Rich and Poor.  And that's it.

    This just out today:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100223/ap_ … et_bonuses

    I guess we can blame Obama for this... but both parties are doing nothing to Address the real issue which is not Spending nor Taxes.  It's fixing the very system of Banking that allows the corruption.

    The accusation that Bush somehow single handedly destroyed the economy is ludicrous.  The economy was on it's way down before Bush.  The debt has been building and building.  Bush did nothing but Tax and Spend and Obama is doing the EXACT SAME THING.

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image84
      Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      To me, it's abosolutely hiLARious that people are so upset that these CEOs are pocketing billions of dollars.

      THEY DESERVE THE MONEY!!!

      They were able to convince ALL of America that their companies were SO important that EVERYONE in the US IMMEDIATELY NEEDED to give up $2,700 or so (about one-tenth of the average YEARLY salary - aka more than one full month of employment for most Americans).

      These CEOs were somehow able to convince Americans that their government needed to steal their money and give it to them, despite the fact that they made hundreds if not thousands or maybe even millions of improper business decisions and ignored the basic ideas of how to do banking.

      Those CEOs deserve their bonuses, and we deserve to lose our money.

      Don't get mad at the CEOs, get mad at your politicians. Get mad at Obama for arguing that the companies needed money, get mad at Bush for creating laws that screwed with the normal free-market regulations of banking et. al., get mad at your representatives and senators for voting to give them your money, and get mad at the supreme court for ignoring the constitution. Get mad at your mayor and state legislator for not nullifying the legislation.

      Get mad at yourself for not fighting against the law.

    2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Mike,

      Things would be better, one party wouldn't control everything.

  11. blue dog profile image80
    blue dogposted 6 years ago

    i know, harvey, that at 6,800 words this is far beyond your attention span, but the article shows that it matters not who your president is:

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/02/21-2

    maybe if you're able to finish reading it, you can post a fourth thread on whether we're happy with obama.  as brimancandy posted, imagine the alternative.

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      A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "Imagine the alternative"

      The alternative would have been a competent politician, but no one expects you to get that!

      1. blue dog profile image80
        blue dogposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        just as the alternative to your poetry would be, say, pablo neruda.

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          A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          What poetry?

      2. caravalhophoto profile image59
        caravalhophotoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        McCain and Palin??? lol lol

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          A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Is that funny?

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        chasingcarsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        McCain and Palin:  Now there's a joke I can believe in.  McCain, the political hack who surfs the polls, can't even get reelected in his own state.  And Palin?  You have got to be kidding.  She's the biggest joke of all. Go ahead and run that ticket again,  We Democrats beg you.

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          A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It wont be them. You democrats are gonna get trounced something fierce! So keep talking about mandates and try shoving healthcare down our throats conservatives beg you! And they are stupid enough to keep doing it, "Obama got a mandate" that sucking sound you hear is the independents votes being siphoned off, mandate? Thats gotta be something Chris Matthews and Prez 0 have gone on!

        2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
          Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          chasing,

          McGovern and
          Dukakis and
          I forgot the Mass. Gov. and

      4. Evan G Rogers profile image84
        Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I'm surprised a man who's icon is 'A Texan' isn't arguing for the most politically active Texan out there!

        We need a proper, good, alternative to the idiotic parties in place today.

        Ron Paul, at this point, is this country's only hope for any real Change - and he's a TRUE conservative!

        I know he's from Pennsylvannia, but he's running Texas now!

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          A Texanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          He's running Texas?

          How exactly is Ron Paul running Texas?

          And just so you know, he isn't a Texan!

          1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
            Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Tex,

            Didn't you know Ron Paul runs the world.

        2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
          Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Evan,

          Ron Paul is a Libertarian, check the definition.

    2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      blue,

      Thanks for the compliment. Presently I can't think (limited capacity) of distasteful words to describe an appropriate answer to describe you.

      I'm very glad you count words in an article, I'll try to read it when I go to the bathroom.

      1. blue dog profile image80
        blue dogposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        don't be shy.  maybe you could have your adsense clicker buddy do it for you.

        1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
          Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          blue,

          You're so sweet!

  12. Len Cannon profile image89
    Len Cannonposted 6 years ago

    NOPE

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    Denno66posted 6 years ago

    Do Either Democrats or Republicans actually think that they are accomplishing anything anymore? Really? Put down the grenedes and start working for the people that put you in office.

  14. Evan G Rogers profile image84
    Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago

    I've been living in Japan for the past 4 years. All I hear each and every morning when i check the morning internet-news reports is 'the president is a moron'.

    It was like that during Bush, it is like that with Obama. The only difference is which group is saying it and why they're saying it.

    Everyone tries to pass Obama's failures off on Bush, which is utter nonsense - if you REALLY think that Bush is the reason why the economy went south, then you don't understand economics; Bush did have a hand in it, but so did Congress and the Supreme Court.

    Everyone tries to act like Obama's awesome - why did he get that Nobel Prize again? for NOT being Bush?

    And everyone realizes that the parties really aren't that different. Differences include: One 'supports the troops' more, one doesn't want evolution taught in school, one doesn't like abortion in any cases, one doesn't want to give up on Iraq and Afghanistan, one likes guns a little more... ... ... wait, is that it?

    The similarities are ASTONISHING: both want more government, both want to continue taxing your income, both want to further regulate the economy, both want to make you scared of one thing so they can take away some freedom of yours, both want you to think the other group is evil so that you'll be passionate about supporting them, both want a bigger federal government, both want to ignore the Constitution, both ... i could go on.

    The fact is, that both parties are the same, they just disagree on a few unimportant issues.

    Let's get a third party that knows what the heck this "Constitution" thing is.

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      Madame Xposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      smile

    2. cluense profile image81
      cluenseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Amen! Evan G Rogers!
      I couldn't agree with you more! smile

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    Madame Xposted 6 years ago

    I think it's great he got elected. He's the biggest lesson the sleeping dragon has ever had and that lesson has been long overdue smile

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    Pani Midnyte Odinposted 6 years ago

    Barrack Obama's election was the first I've followed in years. I didn't vote, but I was hoping he'd be elected. When he was, I was happy. But my opinion of him has definitely changed. His campaign was a total lie. If not an exact "lie," at least an omitting of truth. Now I wish Hilary Clinton had been elected. Maybe I don't like HER, but Bill was a decent president and maybe she would have learned enough from him to return our country to "the good old days." If not, watching their family dramas would be, at least, amusing.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Pani,

      Your being able to finally see what Obama is, is wonderful. Hilary is not very far from B.O. She is also a Socialist, look back at her health-care plan.

      Let's see who ends up running.

  17. khmohsin profile image59
    khmohsinposted 6 years ago

    I do not think we should blame the candidates or persons, it is the parties and policies that we vote and that should be discussed.

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      LegendaryHeroposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It is entirely fair to blame the candidates and persons along with the parties and policies. The candidates are in control of what they do, why should they be above blame? And the people that voted all of these politicians in are as just as much to blame.

  18. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    I am not sorry at all for voting for Barack Obama... For a first year, bit over that, in office....especially with all that has gone on over the past 3 years....I think he has exercised his role as chief executive well.

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      How so, exactly?

    2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Mike,

      For three years we've had a Democratic Congress!

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    Ghost32posted 6 years ago

    I've been sorry he got elected since long before he got elected.  Knew if he did, it would mean disaster for my energy industry job, and it was.

    On the flip side, my forced retirement from trucking has left me time to build our house and write on the Net, so hey, silver linings and all that...lol

  20. wsp2469 profile image61
    wsp2469posted 6 years ago

    I have a hub on Obama

  21. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Well Sab, for a variety of reasons...all of which I won't disclose here...

    Obama opened up a large increase, 50% I believe, in Pell Grants....and as the U.C. system just raised rates by 30 plus percent...these are sorely needed...

    Obama has backed some great legislation, from the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act to the recent bill (argued today) concerning the gaining of governmental rights for indigenous Hawaiians...the Jobs Bill, while I have not read it per se, seems hopeful, and like a step further in the right direction.

    In terms of national image, the previous administration did a great job to undermine both American confidence as well as our international image.....To have a man who can barely communicate is an embarrassment.....what a clown Bush was....

    Obama, however, restores the image of intelligence to the Executive Branch that was lost...Youth are energized about public service in ways that were not visible during the Bush era...at least not in my neck of the woods...

    I am looking forward to the troop reductions in Iraq, as well....

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      So his accomplishments are 'supporting' things the legislature did, not being Bush, and you like his 'image'?


      Make room on Mt. Rushmore!

    2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Mike,

      Other nations think Obama is a fool; why do you think terrorists test us, and China calls for removalof the dollar as the standard.

      You do list things, but what have they accomplished for the country?

  22. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    You asked for accomplishments, and I provided them...

    The President cannot make laws....the legislature does...so I can't give the President direct credit....but you should know this..

    Of course, when I wrote about what Obama has done in terms of restoring an image of competance and respect to the White House you simply make that "anti-Bush"...

    Not reading again Sad....but I know your tactics well.....so I am not surprised...

    Do you care to actually comment on one of my remarks with substance, or just one liners?

    You asked the question, I answered, and your response is lacking....

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "You asked for accomplishments, and I provided them..."


      You provided indirect associations and 'image'


      Nothing of substance, just like our president

    2. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "Of course, when I wrote about what Obama has done in terms of restoring an image of competance and respect to the White House you simply make that "anti-Bush"..."

      YOU brought up Bush, not me

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Sab,

        Fight on, true facts always win.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
          Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Which is very bad news for the GOP.  They try to hide from their history as if it never happened, but those gosh-darn facts keep popping up like mushrooms in cow pies.

          1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
            Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Ron,

            Look at all three major elections since Obama got in, and look at all the polls in upcoming election. The Dem's are in deep shi*!

            1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
              Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              There hasn't been even one "major" election in that time frame, so your point is well..............pointless.  The one small victory the GOP was crowing about(in Massachesetts)turns out to be very short-lived. He won by distancing himself from the wingnuts and is voting like a centrist, much to the dismay of glennbecklimbaugh and his zombie followers.  GOP RIP.  They had their chance for 6 years, they won't have another.

  23. Flightkeeper profile image76
    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago

    I'm not sorry President Zero got elected, I didn't vote for him.  There are many who have gotten buyer's remorse, unfortunately, we all have to deal with the crap that Zero and his minions over at the House and Senate are going to do and have done to us.  I wouldn't be surprised if there are a whole slew of lawsuits against Zero and his cronies after his one term is done.

  24. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Responding with non-answers...

    You are at least consistent.....

    If anyone wants to see how pathetic one can be come check out Sad's "arguments" on some of my articles....

    What a waste of time you can be.....

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Again with the insults. You should be more confident about your opinions (while recognizing them for what they are).

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Dear me tk sensei - can't you disguise yourself better than this?

  25. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    I am.

    Without question.

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Then why do you feel the need to resort to playground insults? You should be beyond that sort of thing by now.

    2. Friendlyword profile image61
      Friendlywordposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      A waste of space and air. Dont respond to him. He's has no real convictions; he just wants to play Karate mind games with anyone who will respond to him.

      1. mikelong profile image84
        mikelongposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I realize it....and you are right.

  26. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Take off the mask...and let's see the true face of Sad! The playground insult would be to take you at all seriously....

    I am glad I voted for the President, and I would do it again...

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      (ignoring yet another insult)

      "I am glad I voted for the President, and I would do it again..."


      So, after seeing how he has done (to the extend he has 'done' anything) so far, you would not go back and vote for Hillary or another democrat if you could? (I think I can tell by now that you are so partisan that the notion of voting for anything other than a dem - or one of those ridiculous fringe parties - would be out of the question).

      1. Friendlyword profile image61
        Friendlywordposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I would have voted for McCain before he lost his mind.

  27. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Hillary Clinton is a different person than Barack Obama. She was a supporter of the invasion of Iraq, while he was not.  The difference between my vote, however, was based off the policies that were discussed..

    I watched the debates, I did my reading, and I did not see any incentive in the Republican ticket, and felt even less confident in them when they picked Palin as McCain's running mate...

    I saw bad decision-making followed by more bad decision-making on the part of the GOP...and watched as their increasingly divisive tones concerning Obama's religious and national background morphed the party into a nativist/extremist corner...and I did not like that at all....

    Obama is an inspirational figure...and not because I say so...I think back to a specific train ride I was taking to Long Beach shortly after Obama's inauguration, and remember the conversing in the car between different people....I see it in the youth I tutor....

    Our nation needed something positive, and he brought it...nothing is perfect, and he is only an individual, but I am glad that he is there, and not McCain/Palin or Clinton/Obama....

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "Obama is an inspirational figure..."


      And there you have it. That is about the only thing left for supporters to cling to. But even there, the bloom is surely off the rose by now.

      Support him, encourage him, hope he does better, but don't pretend he has accomplished anything.

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    Denno66posted 6 years ago

    Harvey, if I may, do you see a viable candidate for the office of the Presidency? I, myself, do not. All of the choices differ very little. This President is just a variation on the same old tired theme. The Bi-Partisan bickering is crippling the very way of government, coupled with the influence of the Banks and Big Business, unless a fundamental shift in the affairs of governance is brought into play, we will merely be playing with words until the dying horse finally kicks the bucket.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Denno,

      It is very sad that I had to drop out of the race. If you look at my Hub you will see my Platform, and whyI can not run. It may sound funny but I've received a lot of praise for my Platform.

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        Denno66posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        'Tis a shame; you probably would have offered far more than the current crop. It's pretty sad when a Centrist comes off looking like a Conservative, but, alas, it is a sign of the times.

  29. mega1 profile image79
    mega1posted 6 years ago

    I'm not sorry - give him time - things don't change much for me no matter which party says they're in power - so I don't tend to believe much of all the bs-ing on either side.

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      Denno66posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You are my idol. big_smile

      1. mega1 profile image79
        mega1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I can't sing too good, though. . .

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          Denno66posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That's alright, neither do some of the past winners. big_smile

  30. cluense profile image81
    cluenseposted 6 years ago

    Well, I did not vote for him. However, he has sure made a lot of my tax return customers happy. The majority of my customers are seeing a 40-60% increase in their federal returns. Mostly because of his work credit and re-education credits. I'm happy that I can help them ease their burdens during this tough economic down turn.

    Therefore, as I see it, we need to work with what we have and pray for better in 2012!

  31. creativeone59 profile image41
    creativeone59posted 6 years ago

    No, I don't think he has done any worse than any of the other t presidents before him. It was already messed up before he took office, I don't see why everyone would think he could make a miracle happen, after  all,he isn't God. Godspeed. creativone59

  32. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    How is it the "only thing" Sad if I mentioned other things?

    Others do as well.....your selective editing is your downfall...

    And I guess you underestimate/weigh the importance of inspiration to both individuals and society...

  33. JON EWALL profile image47
    JON EWALLposted 6 years ago

    creativeone59
    The facts without the democrat talking points.

    Candidate Obama promised hope and change will be coming to

    Washington. The reform legislation that Obama and the majority

    democrat party are pushing for have confirmed his intentions of

    changing the ways in American government.

    Let’s look back to what candidate Obama pledged to the American

    people if elected. President Barak Obama pledged:

    1.To bring back the jobs lost in 2007 and 2008
    FOR THE RECORD the democrats controlled congress in jan 2007 up until today Today it is 9.7% plus

    2.To fix the economic problems by passing the $787 billion Tarp
    bill (congress passed the bill without reading or debating the bill

    The tarp money has been paid back plus interest.. The law requires the money to go back to the treasury to pay back the loans.President Obama does not want to reduce the deficit with that money according to the law

    3.To have fiscal responsibility and control spending, Barak Obama

    promised to go line for line and strike out pork in the Tarp bill
    SORRY HE DID NOT DO IT

    4.To rid Washington of lobbyist and special interest groups

    5.To surround himself with experienced and capable people
    HE HAS 32 LOBBYIST IN HIS ADMINISTRATION

    6.To have an open transparent government and to allow C-Span to

    televise the debates and congressional hearings.
    SORRY,HE DID NOT DO THAT UNTIL TODAY 2/25/10

    7 To close gitmo last year.
    SORRY HE HASN'T

    8.To end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
    SORRY NOT DONE

    9.To give 95% of the people a tax break and not to tax anyone
    THE MONEY WILL BE TAXED   NOT FREE

    below $250,000, by the way according to some officials the ceiling

    has dropped down to$100,000 with a possibility to $85,000 due to

    lack of money coming into the treasury.

    10.To not allow no bid contracts in his administration.
    TODAY A NEWSMEDIA DISCOVERED THE THIRD SUCH CONTRACT

    A major news source reported that Obama gave a $25 million no

    bid contract to a donor of his campaign. The contract recently was

    cancelled after being exposed by the media..

    11. To reduce the deficit by 50% in his first term.
    INCREASE THE DEFICIT 4X MORE THAN BUSH

    The proposed budget for 2011($3.85 trillion )given to congress will

    be the largest ever in our history if passed by congress..

    THERE ARE MANY WHO WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HIM TODAY.
    INSTEAD OF JOBS JOBS HE HAS WASTED HIS FIRST YEAR
    UNEMPLOYMENT IN 2006 WAS 4.6% (the republicans controlled congress ) NOW 9.7%PLUS

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      John,

      An excellent,  informative, realistic and true comment. The ones he has basically helped are Union Leader's and Gov't workers.

  34. lovelypaper profile image68
    lovelypaperposted 6 years ago

    Yes. No question about it.

  35. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Harvey, I don't know what "other nations" think, but people within other nations have all kinds of views about the President...judging from his warm response when he visits other places, I don't know if I agree with your assessment...


    I think more people outside the United States feel that the American people are largely tools themselves.......tools of Halliburton and Neo Liberal economic policies that most of them don't understand and don't pay attention to...

    I know that there are a lot of Coca Cola employees and other workers in Ecuador who love what Obama was able to do on their behalf.....and it's too bad our companies are busy killing/kidnapping/illegally imprisoning, and destroying lives in other nations.....but many Americans cannot look at their destructive actions with honesty...

    As for China's response to U.S. dollars....wars cost money...and can destroy nations....Perhaps if we were not busy paying off sheiks or indirectly paying the Taliban we would have more cash....

    http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08 … t-to-know/

    Obama is not perfect, nor was he ever made out to be....he doesn't have all the support he needs, and it was known that he wouldn't....  When I look at the challenges he faces, or the roadblocks he's encountered I see more institutionalized flaws than his own....

    By the way, there are far more conservative-minded Democrats than liberal Republicans....so donkeys crossing into the elephant's side of the aisle is not an unknown feat....birds of a feather flock together, regardless of party line...

    Lincoln and Obama have so much in common......so much, and Lincoln is considered one of our greatest national leaders....but he was demagogued during his time in office as well.....

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Comparing Obama to Lincoln is a poor joke.

    2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Mike,

      You know who comprises the crowds that await him, all countries do it. You can even look at the Obama Town Hall meetings, it's the same. You being ex military should know what those who serve think of him. I get my info from the wife ofa Colonel.

      He says they can't stand Obama and are told to smile during photo ops.

    3. JON EWALL profile image47
      JON EWALLposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      mikelong
      Here is a Lincoln quote "to remain silent is to be a coward ". watching this president telling the people untrue and half truth statements is far from what Lincoln did when he was president.
      In today's business section an associated press article RECOIVERY IN DOUBT AS US GROWTH SLOWS
      THE FOLLOWING EXERPTS
      "as government stimulus wanes and Federal Reserve economic-support programs end, the economy could suffer.Economists say the odds of the economy sliding back into a recession this year are low, but they won't rule it out."
      LET'S FACE IT without jobs in the private sector, businesses will close,people will continue to lose their healthcare benefits, healthcare premiums will rise and  we will have more foreclosures.

      THE $787 BILLION WAS TO PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK,the only people that got help was government union workers. hence the phrase '' saved jobs'' and state governments.As of today less than 50% of the money has been spent and unemployment is at 9.7% plus in many areas of the nation.

      President Barak  Obama and the inept democratic leadership have wasted the taxpayers time and money for the past year forgetting that jobs jobs should have been the first priority of this administration.

      President Barak Obama  on 2/25/10, in his closing argument essentially told the American people that he and the democratic congress will pass  healthcare legislation by any means even if in violation of the constitution.

  36. rebekahELLE profile image92
    rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago

    no, especially in light of who would be there in his place.
    the mcpain duo.

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    Denno66posted 6 years ago

    Mmmmmmm, mushrooms.....

  38. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    No Sab....I think you were looking in the mirror again...

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What do you mean?

  39. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    "immoral" and "unpatriotic"....two of the most subjective and overly used terms I have heard launched against any President up to this point.....and then I read more about Abraham Lincoln...

    His actions to end slavery were deemed so immoral and unpatriotic that states seceded from the Union...never has this every happened up to that point or since....Slavery was such a "moral" institution that it was worth dissolving the Union over....

    Raping slave girls and lynching/burning men were both moral and patriotic not too long ago.....

    Polk and Bush....here are two examples of war criminals as well as presidents who broke both international law and violated the Constitution of the United States through deceit and corruption.....but why are there no complaints about them....and why did Bush get reelected?

    I have my opinion on this....

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "His actions to end slavery were deemed so immoral and unpatriotic that states seceded from the Union..."


      States did not secede from the Union because Lincoln was trying to end slavery. Licoln was all for keeping slavery if he could keep the Union together at the same time. He had a balanced view of principles and practicality, unlike our current president.



      And Bush is not a "war criminal." That is the kind of silly ranting one would expect of some unwashed college kid who reeks of dope and cookie dough and is not worthy of this venue.

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Sab,

        You are correct about lincoln, and Bush is not a war criminal.

        1. Sab Oh profile image61
          Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you

      2. Siotosh profile image59
        Siotoshposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Bush is not a "war criminal."  nor is Malosovich, but the should be in the same place

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    Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago

    The terms are not subjective.
    It wasn't anyone who had good morals who advocated raping slave girls, etc.
    Were you there?  I think not.  Neither was I.  But I can rightly say what's immoral and unpatriotic.

    I AM here during Obama's hogwash.  So I can speak definitively about it.   I WAS here during the Bush Administration,  and although I didn't know everything that went on,  I can see by the results of it that it had no comparison to the immorality and unpatriotism of the current Obama Administration.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Brenda,

      You go girl!

    2. Danny R Hand profile image62
      Danny R Handposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      your kidding right? Please say you are, PLEASE!

  41. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    I didn't have to be there.....the court cases and testimonials are published...they are part of our history....perhaps you just haven't read them yet...

    Don't worry, I'll write articles about them...

    "Celie; A Slave"---check it out.

    "My Folks Don't Want Me to Talk About SLavery"---another...

    Those terms are absolutely subjective.....which is proven in our democracy every day when differing sides wrangle over these concepts...which is why something deemed "patriotic and moral" like slavery can be made the reverse....

    Which is why the moral and patriotic place for a woman was in the home and keeping silent to her man..regardless of whether he was "moral"....and why this also changed....

    You can have your opinion....but your claims remain your own based on your biases...as do my own.

  42. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Of course Sad.....

    I forgot how right you are....

    You should teach a class....

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I do.

  43. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Tell me where....I wish to enroll.

  44. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    I am an excellent student old man Sad....

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I have no doubt you are an excellent student (although your spelling needs work).

  45. Mamelody profile image59
    Mamelodyposted 6 years ago

    Well am not an american and to be honest I was not thrilled he was elected but I guess you guys need to give him more time to fix the problems that dubya plagued on y'all...

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      More time again? How long is long enough to expect something?

  46. Harvey Stelman profile image60
    Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago

    Can anyone say that the televised meeting with the Republican's did anything. Obama spoke for more minutes than all Republican's combined.

    After the meeting Obama said the Democrat's would have to push things through without the Republican's; is that bi-partisan? He was never able to get his own Party to fully back it before.

  47. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    "I have no doubt you are an excellent student (although your spelling needs work)."


    I see you edited this post after the fact....

    My "spelling errors" regarding your name are intentional, as I'm sure you have discovered...

    Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones...your punctuation above is out of form..

    Harvey,

    I was in the military, which is why they all do not view him the same way.. A friend of mine just recently showed me pictures that his nephew took when the President and Vice President came to his base... Those weren't photo ops or disgruntled, anti-Obama soldiers..

    I know that conservatives within the military, and those who are in the business of war do not particularly like Democrats or Obama in particular...I was in when Clinton was in office, and when that transitioned to Bush...I remember the rhetoric from the higher ups...and I look back on it now and see how ridiculous many of their views were...

    My uncle is a former captain....and I get his ridiculous emails too...some of which I have written articles about...

    Military service does not imply intellect....or unbiased thinking...

    I do not look at uniforms and fall in line any longer......

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "My "spelling errors" regarding your name are intentional"


      Do you mean to say that you are engaged in infantile name calling?

    2. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Mike, IThe man I spoke of was #1in his class at West Point, and helped devise stratagy in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was called out of retirement to do these things. I consider him a good source. He is retired again.

  48. tobey100 profile image61
    tobey100posted 6 years ago

    There's no such thing as a centrist.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      tobey,

      Why do you say that?

  49. Danny R Hand profile image62
    Danny R Handposted 6 years ago

    Yes I'm glad Obama was elected. Why? He is the closest thing to an intelligent and reasonable person that Ive seen in office in a long time. Some have been intelligent, but they lacked reasonableness, and common sense.

  50. mikelong profile image84
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Unfortunately she is not......

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Danny,

      Reasonable would mean listening to the other side and the people. He doesn't do either.

      1. Danny R Hand profile image62
        Danny R Handposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Considering the other side (like most democrats) are more concerned with catering to the thieves their party serves than they are their citizens, it's easy to understand why he would'nt listen to them. And the people, at least the majority, are either endoctrined by political parties or are led along like submisive sheep by the media. So to me, intelligent and reasonable would be attempting to govern to the best of ones ability without being swayed by doctrine, special interests, or the ignorance of the uninformed.

        1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
          Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Danny,

          That's what the Tea party's are about.

          1. Alya rose profile image61
            Alya roseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I do notice a lack of keeping the promises he made,and deosn't really seem to be going anywhere...maybe he's watching MTV again.

            1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
              Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Alya,

              Even his own Party will not support what he wants, more than 50% of the people don't agree with him. His current approval rating is at 46%.

 
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