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Concealed Weapons Permits

  1. qwark profile image60
    qwarkposted 7 years ago

    I am X military, and 5 yrs as a police officer.
    I have a concealed weapon permit and I "carry."
    What are your concerns about concealed weapons permits and the 2nd amendment.

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      My background is exactly the same as yours but I do not have a concealed carry permit! Make no mistake about it I am packing and I will use it if needed! Anybody who owns a weapon and does not carry it these days is asking to be a victim!

      1. qwark profile image60
        qwarkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Texan:
        Why don't you get your permit?
        I am also a Texan. It took me a day and a couple hundred bucks to get the permit. I carry legally.
        I agree with you 100% that:  "Anybody who owns a weapon and does not carry it these days is asking to be a victim!"
        If you have a "clean" record, the permit will be delivered about 2 weeks after finishing the course.
        Of course, one can "carry" if the weapon is visible, but there is no doubt that law enforcement officers will stop ya and check ya out when they see ya.

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I do not need permission from the State to do what the 2nd Amendment already allows.

          No, you cannot carry legally a firearm in plain sight, not sure where you got that.

          The Castle Doctrine allows anyone to carry their weapon in a vehicle if it is concealed!

          1. qwark profile image60
            qwarkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Texan:
            Pls tell me where in the "constitution" it says specifically that you can carry a concealed weapon in any state.
            If you are going to target practice or hunting in many states, if the gun is in view it is legal to carry it.
            Any cop in any state will, using probable cause, stop you and check you out.
            They, the state, creates legislation controlling weapons.
            The US gov't does not control gun laws in states.

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I don't care about many States!

              Where were you a Police Officer?

              In Texas it is only legal to carry a concealed weapon!

              Your credibility is now zero!

              1. qwark profile image60
                qwarkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Texan:
                lolol...and yours HAS been "0" since your first comment.
                In your case, the IGNORE button has been depressed....:-)

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Whatever! This real former police officer knows the laws of the state where he lives, you on the other hand don't have a clue!

                  Go blow smoke up someone elses ass!

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                moonphlowerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Right you are!  You cannot legally carry a weapon in Texas in plain site but you don't need a carry concealed permit! smile

                1. qwark profile image60
                  qwarkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Moon:
                  Incorrect.
                  You can carry a weapon in your car if it can be seen.
                  You cannot carry a "concealed" weapon on your body in Texas without a permit.
                  I can carry a concealed weapon in the car and on my body with my permit

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                    A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    "You can carry a weapon in your car if it can be seen."

                    Incorrect!

                    The weapon must be concealed in your vehicle!

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                    moonphlowerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Sorry qwark, but a simple google search of the concealed to carry laws in Texas will give you your answer...you CANNOT openly carry a weapon in the state of Texas without a permit and you don't need a concealed to carry permit in that state either.  However, obtaining one would allow you to do both, but why bother when most will likely carry concealed.  Just so you don't think I'm talking out the side of my head, I do know a little about the law, I work in the legal field, some things you just gotta know.

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You need a conceal carry permit to carry the weapon on your person, your vehicle is a different matter entirely!

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                    moonphlowerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I'm sorry Texan, that was what I was intending to convey...my apologies for the confusion.

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              Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Anything the Constitution does not specifically forbid is an automatic right. Besides, the Constitution places restrictions on government, not on the people. So it doesn't have to say specifically 'the right to carry', just like it doesn't have to say you can 'travel'.

          2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            right-the-fuck-on, Texan.

      2. EFPotter profile image60
        EFPotterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        @ Texan: "Anyone who owns a weapon and does not carry it these days is asking to be a victim!" So, if a woman has a weapon but doesn't carry it to work and gets raped on the way home, she was asking for that? I think you gun aficionados need to think before you speak and realize that not everyone is going to walk around packing heat like you do--that doesn't mean they're asking for, or deserve, to be attacked.

        Also, carrying a concealed weapon without a permit in a state that requires a permit (not all do) is still illegal. It's been ruled that states requiring permits is legal. You're also given the right to travel, but if you're caught driving without a license, you're still in trouble.

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          Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Oh really? I'm GIVEN the RIGHT to travel?

          Who GIVES me RIGHTS? or you for that matter??

          1. EFPotter profile image60
            EFPotterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You're right--no one gives you the right to travel. It isn't in the constitution. It's just in law and precedent, which are the same. So, those laws and precedents GIVE you the right to travel.

            The constitution, and as mentioned, laws and precedents, detail or GIVE your rights.  A right is due to everyone, enforced by law.

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              Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Really? So first man and I suppose government, had to make a law that ALLOWED us to travel?

              So you're saying our RIGHTS come from government???

              1. EFPotter profile image60
                EFPotterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Not the government, the law. There's a difference. There's also a difference between things we can do, and things that are absolutely guaranteed to be given to us, and to be protected for us.

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                  Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You keep refering to things (rights) being "given" to us and apparently you think it's being given to us by "law", but law isn't a thing but a concept created by men, it has no power to "give" us anything!

                  Our rights, to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, come from our creator, they are inherent in our being, our existence. We don't require law, government, or anyone else to "give" them to us! With the right to life, is the right to protect ourselves from violence by others, this too is a matter of "law" and as such we, as free men, have the right to do so by whatever means, we feel we need. What the courts have ruled does not matter when their rulings violate our rights.

      3. tobey100 profile image62
        tobey100posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        25 years law enforcement here.  I carry, even in Church.  With what I've seen these many years I don't go to the store without mine.

      4. i_am_Legend profile image60
        i_am_Legendposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Agree

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      Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      My concern, is why do I need a permit??? It's my constitutional RIGHT to carry!

      1. EFPotter profile image60
        EFPotterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        As I stated, it's been ruled constitutional for states to require permits.

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          Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          "Law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it
          violates the right of an individual." --Thomas Jefferson to
          Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819.

          One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
          Martin Luther King, Jr.

          “It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.”
          George Washington quotes


          I think these guys say it all!

      2. AdsenseStrategies profile image73
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No, all you have is a right to bare arms

        1. Arthur Fontes profile image90
          Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          A right to bare arms?  That is one of Michelle Obama's causes isn't it?

        2. qwark profile image60
          qwarkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Adsense:
          CORRECT!

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Bare arms? Is that somehow different than carry weapons?

          1. Arthur Fontes profile image90
            Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Bare arms would be walking around with a sleeveless shirt.  Maybe your arms are guns maybe they are not.

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I was thinking it was bear, you got me!

            2. AdsenseStrategies profile image73
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Thank you for getting the joke. Sheesh. Only took 90 minutes
              roll

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                A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Believe it or not some people do misspell words.

              2. Arthur Fontes profile image90
                Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I got it when you posted it but I was with a customer and could not reply.  lol

                1. AdsenseStrategies profile image73
                  AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I missed the Michelle Obama reference. never watching the news has a wonderfully refreshing effect...

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    A Texanposted 7 years ago

    Law Enforcement officers better have a better reason to search me other than they suspect something, I'm assuming you know what probable cause is and the definition of arrest!

  3. flread45 profile image82
    flread45posted 7 years ago

    I carry a weapon on my hip in Mt.and I don't have a permit,as I use my hunting license as my permit in this state,but I do not conceal my weapon.

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    A Texanposted 7 years ago

    "The US gov't does not control gun laws in states."

    So there is no need to have a FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSE?

    Thats gonna be news to a lot of gun dealers roll

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    moonphlowerposted 7 years ago

    The laws of carrying concealed vary from state to state.  It is best if you're going to carry (concealed or not) that you check out your states laws.  If you travel with that weapon, it's also best to do a little research on the states that you'll be traveling into.  But I say carry on.

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    A Texanposted 7 years ago

    Applicable law

    (a-1)  A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:

    (1)  the handgun is in plain view; or


    Like I said, zero credibility!

  7. darkside profile image81
    darksideposted 7 years ago

    Where I live we don't need guns [1].

    1. I'd be allowed one[2] if I found the kangaroos that come on my property to be pests, but they haven't been a problem[3].

    2. I'd first have to go for a shooters license.

    3. The problem would quickly escalate[4] if I missed a kangaroo and hit one of the neighbors cows. Or if I aimed in the other direction and hit one of the other neighbors camels.

    4. Where I live we don't need guns.

    1. qwark profile image60
      qwarkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Darkside:
      You do have a lower murder rate than we do per 100k people.
      But if the criminal can get a gun, I want to even the odds.
      Here in the USA, if we'd outlaw guns, only outlaws would have em.

  8. Colebabie profile image61
    Colebabieposted 7 years ago

    I wish guns were never invented. But thats just me smile

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    A Texanposted 7 years ago

    Does the second amendment mean a citizen can only bare arms at home?

    Isn't it Bear arms? Yeah, I think it is.

 
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