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How many more will die today- before we push them liars away?

  1. dugger62 profile image60
    dugger62posted 7 years ago

    Well folks, here we are with well over a dozen of crack pots running our government. Trying to push on us their health care plans that they themself will not accept.

    But yet- their so called concern for WE THE PEOPLE, is proven false by their actions.

    If they were so concern for WE THE PEOPLE- why is the package a threat to mankind?  There will be fines and jail time, or both for those who will refuse to buy their planned health care.

    In the year 2012 or 2013 it will be required that everone be Verichipped by the demand of that health care plan. Which also pertains to H1N1 vaccine as a requirement without your say.

    Here is just a bit from a lawsuit filed against Mr. Obama-

    H.R. 3590  was signed into law by Mr. Barack Hussein Obama, who amazingly does not posses a valid US Social Security number,

    which every legal citizen of the US is supposed to possess, never proved his legitimacy to presidency and therefore the act is invalid,

    as it was not signed by one legally entitled to sign it.



              Attached is Exhibit 1, Affidavit from a retired Deportation Officer with the department of Homeland Security and licensed investigator Mr. John Sampson,

    stating that social security number used by Mr. Obama most of his life 042-68-4425 cannot be a lawfully obtained number, as 042 are the initial digits assigned to

    the state of CT, while Mr. Obama was never a resident of CT.


           
      Exhibit 2, is an affidavit from a private investigator, licensed with the Department of Homeland Security, Susan Daniels.

    It concurs that for most of his life Mr. Obama has used number 042-68-4425, which cannot be lawfully his, as indeed it was obtained in CT, when Mr. Obama resided in HI.

    Moreover, Ms. Daniels research shows that this is a number that was  issued to an individual born in 1890, and Mr. Obama  assumed this number unlawfully.

    Ms. Daniels provides a list of 8 more social security numbers used by Mr. Obama, as well as several numbers used by Michele Obama.



              Exhibit 3 is an affidavit from a licensed investigator and retired Scotland Yard elite anti organized crime officer Mr. Neil Sankey,

    who has compiled from the most reputable National databases: Lexis Nexis and Choice Point a list of multiple addresses under the names of Barack Obama and Barry Obama,

    those addresses are connected to 39 different social security numbers, none of which were issued in the state of HI.



           
      Exhibit four is an affidavit from a licensed document expert Sandra Ramsey Lines, which states that the short version (abbreviated) COLB-Certificate of Life Birth

    of Barrack Hussein Obama cannot be viewed as genuine without examining the original, currently sealed in the Health Department in HI,

    which Mr. Obama refuses to unseal in spite of over 60 Federal and multiple State actions brought by citizens, State Representatives and high ranked members

    of the Military from around the nation. None of the above actions were heard on the merits, but rather were dismissed on technical procedural grounds,

    such as standing and jurisdiction. All of the above facts cast a doubt as to the legitimacy of Mr. Obama to serve as a president due to his lack of Qualification

    as a Natural Born citizen per Article 2, section 1, §5, making him ineligible to sign H.R.3590.       


    Additionally, Dr. Taitz has brought a Quo Warranto action, as specified in District of Columbia statutes §16-352 §16-353, which allows

    Quo Warranto action against a federal officer within the jurisdiction of the District of Columbia.


    As Florida does not provide such jurisdiction, it appears to be imperative to join two causes of action in the District of Columbia,

    where it is already being heard by Honorable Chief Judge of the US District Court for the District of Columbia Honorable Judge Royce C. Lamberth.   

    Research it folks- It is all there and we have a snakes running our government.

    1. Niteriter profile image79
      Niteriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this



      Joined 16 hours ago and already stirring the pot. Are you Sarah Palin in disguise? ...Sarah?

      1. dugger62 profile image60
        dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I would vote for my dog first,  are you the leprecon ?

        1. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Let me guess, a Fox News aficionado?  Sarah Palin voter?

        2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
          Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You are the Leper-con, my dear.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I agree.

    3. profile image0
      zampanoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Wow ! You sure are full of energy.
      Be happy to live in the USA.
      If you lived upon here in Europe, they would create a tax
      specially for you. It would be called TUPE Tax Upon Personal Energy.
      I'm sure you must have yummy ways to spend your splendid energy.
      LOL

    4. Ralph Deeds profile image70
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      And the moon is made of green cheese!

  2. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 7 years ago
    1. Doug Hughes profile image59
      Doug Hughesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The paranoids are after me!

      1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
        JOE BARNETTposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        i guess she doesn't know that we have discussed this to no end here and have discovered and know exactly  what the truth is. but welcome aboard. thats what we do here is debate. but you are wrong

      2. JOE BARNETT profile image61
        JOE BARNETTposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        ha ha ha doug!

      3. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Doug,

        Wait a few year until you fingd out what's in the bill.

        1. Sab Oh profile image61
          Sab Ohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          That's a good point. Pelosi didn't specify how long after it was passed we'd have to wait to find out what was in it...

          1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
            JOE BARNETTposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Every American will be covered under the toughest patient protections in history. Arbitrary premium hikes, insurance cancellations, and discrimination against pre-existing conditions will now be gone forever.

            And we'll finally start reducing the cost of care -- creating millions of jobs, preventing families and businesses from plunging into bankruptcy, and removing over a trillion dollars of debt from the backs of our children.

            But the victory that matters most tonight goes beyond the laws and far past the numbers.

            It is the peace of mind enjoyed by every American, no longer one injury or illness away from catastrophe.

            It is the workers and entrepreneurs who are now freed to pursue their slice of the American dream without fear of losing coverage or facing a crippling bill.

            And it is the immeasurable joy of families in every part of this great nation, living happier, healthier lives together because they can finally receive the vital care they need.

            This is what change looks like. MAYBE THIS WILL HELP!

            1. Sab Oh profile image61
              Sab Ohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              "Every American will be covered under the toughest patient protections in history."

              Every American's confidential medical information (information that courts have routinely recognized as some of the most priveledged private information in a person's life) will be open to government bureaucrats. It will therefore no longer be private. "Patient protections" is government doublespeak for "trust us."


              I don't.

              1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                JOE BARNETTposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                you must really work hard at twisting stuff ha ha ha thats a talent you have.

                  hey the sun came up" eww thats a miserable day, people will have to wash sweat from their clothes,expend more energy, buy soap." you still see you birth as the day somebody hit you. if they look at your info what will they find thats so secret and or that they don't know already? oh clark kent is not your real name?

                do you live out in the desert with a bunch of rifles waiting on black helicopters to come. you are a pessimist or on meds ha ha ha

                1. Friendlyword profile image59
                  Friendlywordposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Glad to see somebody else has TK figured out. TKSENSEI and his mental judo. I find it very entertaining. But, I think you just gave him a old fashioned Right Cross. I see him on his butt, Crosseyed!

                  Very good Joe!

                2. Sab Oh profile image61
                  Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  "if they look at your info what will they find thats so secret and or that they don't know already?"


                  Is that your general attitude toward government? I doubt it is. I guess you also don't mind a government drone having access to your conversations with a laywer or a priest or a private discussion with a family member? The courts have held that the information your physician has is even more priveledged that those.

                  I guess you will feel quite justified when your doctor recommends a treatment for you that, after government review, is ruled too expensive or unnecessary.

                  Which cheek do you want the brand to go on?

                  1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                    Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Whatever the government does will be a big improvement over what the insurance companies have been doing--excluding people who have pre-existing conditions, canceling policies on technicalities after someone developes a chronic costly condition, refusing treatment recommended by patients' doctors because they are allegedly experimental or other conditions in the fine print, applying lifetime expenditure caps and so forth.

                  2. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                    JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    sab oh- from where is it that you gain your info? just who and on What piece of paper has anyone said that this is the case. this is not a gov't takeover of insurance. do you just make up scary things to delude the people or are you truly this confused? you must be because not one person has said this. yes you lean to the right. therefore the only way you can control is through fear.

                    you bamboozle those that believe in you like when the gov't helped the auto industry from failing, you and yours said it was a gov't takeover of the auto industry, well. . . was it? the gov't said they were just helping them out and it wasn't a takeover.but you continued to cause trouble.it prevented the failure and they are solvent again. so was there any truth to that"CONSPIRACY"? no and there never is!

                    you lean toward the right so big business can make more by taking the jobs over seas leaving the american people unemployed,then selling their products here and calling themselves an american company. but you with your dim wisdom agree with this . your conversations now have become the most misleading and fiction-like. you preach poison!you can bet that at the end of a math class with you, everyone is saying 2+2=4 and you are saying it's 5 just cuz thats the way you feel.always creating confusion.are you that confused or borderline sociopath? feelings and facts are 2 different things. on the surface you purport yourself to be educated and then every word out of your mouth shows everything but education.you need to read more! you have nothing good to say because you can't see good. if someone made you a car you would complain about the screws.

                    i think that maybe you're a spy because you and yours try hard to keep the country in confusion and an uproar.mobs packing guns at THE PRESIDENT because he "IMPROVED" insurance and repaired the biggest economic crash since 29, that is so stupid and unamerican.during 29 they promoted baseball,songs and  distractions to make the country come together and feel better til it ended.not you! the rest of the world must be cracking up and just shaking their heads. maybe you are trying to create a career like limbaugh.you're nothing but a polemic and in the future when our conversations cross i will greet you with a laugh and end it with a snicker and again why do you hide behind that mask? i would suspect it's because i'm not the only one that feels this way!  have a happy easter!

              2. LiamBean profile image88
                LiamBeanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Paranoia anyone?

              3. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                What do you have to hide, TK? Herpes? Tertiary syphillis? Undescended testicles?

                1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                  JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  ha ha ha whew!

                2. Sab Oh profile image61
                  Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Is that what you said when Bush was president and calls from the US to suspected terrorists were being monitored? I'll bet it wasn't. So despite what courts and the law have found over and over again you feel information between a doctor and a patient need not be private? When obama gets the boot in 2012 I imagine we'll see you break out the tye-dye and change your tune entirely.

                3. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                  JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  ha ha ha ralph!

              4. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I've read only summaries of the bill, but my impression is that there will not be a lot of changes for people who are currently insured. They will continue to be covered by their private insurance policies with the current medical privacy rules applicable to doctors, hospitals and insurers remaining in place. The main change is that when the new regulations take effect the insurance companies won't be as able to f**k their customers and applicants over the way many have been doing heretofore--refusing to insure people with pre-existing conditions, cancelling policies on flimsy pretexts when they need expensive care in an emergency or to treat a chronic disease. Children will be covered until age 27, and so forth. Coverage, either through private insurers or state run insurance exchanges will be available for the currently 30-odd million who are uninsured and for people who are unemployed and between jobs. The main downside of the bill, aside for the fact that there is no public option to keep the insurance companies honest, as I see it, is that the projected cost savings will be hard to achieve and slow coming.

            2. dugger62 profile image60
              dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Mr. Barnett- your what I call a sleeper.  But do me a favor- when it hits you in the face please share.

              1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                dugger- and you can call me joe. from where do you get this info?IT IS ALL WRONG!!!! DON'T BE "JOE THE PLUMBER"

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  At least "Joe the Plumber" had the good sense to question the communistic audacity of Mr. Obama.

                  1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I thought you said he was a Kenyan Socialist baby killer.

                    Which is he?

                  2. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                    JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    well dugger ya just convinced me.you are very out of the loop! the republicans made a fool of joe. he says mccain wrecked his life.you are being mislead or maybe you want to be part of a group or something but there is not one thing bad that the president has done except waste a year seeking bi partisanship. ok so then tell me. what is it about the bill that you don't like. i want to know. you say i'm a sleeper. so tell me what is bad.

      4. dugger62 profile image60
        dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Doug Hughes

        Yeah your government will have you wrapped up in a few years from now-

        It is so easy to use the word Paranoid till they jump up an show you- it would be best for you to stay asleep- then you can keep living in your cozy dream world.

  3. pylos26 profile image75
    pylos26posted 7 years ago

    Dugger dear…are you off your medication again? …Pity.

    1. dugger62 profile image60
      dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Pylos26,

      No, I leave all  Pharmaceutical Cartel products to the sleepers.

  4. profile image0
    Will Bensonposted 7 years ago

    http://frayedwire.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/snakes-on-a-plane.jpg

    "It's about the president sir...you'd better sit down..."

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    Anybody have any aspirin?big_smile

    1. Ohma profile image78
      Ohmaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      or 10

  6. Valerie F profile image60
    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    Fact check:

    No one was forced to take the H1N1 vaccine.

    1. dugger62 profile image60
      dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Valerie F

      I think you had best check your facts-

      Health care providers etc.

  7. MikeNV profile image74
    MikeNVposted 7 years ago

    The Bill was intentionally crafted so the PAIN doesn't really kick in until after the Elections.

    1. dugger62 profile image60
      dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      MikeNV  -

      I agree

  8. profile image0
    Poppa Bluesposted 6 years ago

    There are plenty of reasons to be opposed to the health care bill on constitutional grounds without having to panic or generate fear about things that might not be completely true.
    Too there are plenty of reasons to oppose Obama's socialist agenda, but it really is time to give up on the citizen thing, that's already been ruled on by the courts.

    1. Doug Hughes profile image59
      Doug Hughesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thank You , Poppa.

      We generally disagree, but yours is the voice of reason here.

  9. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago

    How much Fox did you watch today - before your senses ran away?

  10. profile image0
    Poppa Bluesposted 6 years ago

    Hitler was widely popular, and look at Chavez today.

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Reagan was also very popular

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      LegendaryHeroposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Popularity does not equate tyrannical leader.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
        Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Which is what I was saying when I pointed out that Reagan was also popular smile

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          LegendaryHeroposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Oops, I missed that when reading.

          1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
            Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            It's okay, it was ignored anyway smile

  11. Harvey Stelman profile image60
    Harvey Stelmanposted 6 years ago

    dugger,

    You have done a good job. Many people here willnever change their minds. Also look at the way liberals always attack, and bring other not mentioned into the fray.

    I haven't seen anything here to refute what  you have said.

    1. Doug Hughes profile image59
      Doug Hughesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Harvey, If someone said Obama is the antichrist and hass '666' tatooed on his ass you would agree, because you are blinded by your anti-Obama bias.

      As Poppa pointed out, there is casue for realistic aand substantive disagreement on real issues without supporting a delusionary post.

      1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
        JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        ha ha ha ha doug yep you are right!

        1. dugger62 profile image60
          dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hey Joe, no joke either-  How many presidents have 4 different names-
          39 Social Security numbers as Brack Obama or Barry Soetoro and pays Perkins, Coie  LLP 1.7 Million to hide his college transcripts, passport records?

          Have you researched Donald Young and the church he attended & Larry Sinclare ?

          1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
            JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            dugger i have just researched all of them. it's all mumbo jumbo.
              orly taitz(birther) saw some unverified credit apps. same social sec#, name spellings kind of different, but all to the same address. perkins coie is a large law firm , handled the checking of whether or not he would be eligible to run for president in the supreme court. he was found eligible, but this was before they discovered his shape shifting . . . oooouuuhh

            1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
              Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The more ridiculous threads we see attacking Obama for spurious reasons the more people will soon get tired of the conspiracy theories that most rational people have put to rest. I know I don't even read most of them anymore.

              I'm surprised that those who attack environmentalists are now against Obama pushing off-shore drilling. But...I should know, it's because it's Obama, no other reason.

              1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                there was a time when i wanted to go into politics! this is a prime example as to why i would jump off a bridge before i would do something that thankless. he is helping them and they are fighting tooth and nail. insurance would have increased their insurance premiums when they got sick too or invoked pre-existing conditions on them or their children, when they changed jobs. now they can't!do they say thanks? no!they lack the ability to reason, no matter how many times you show them, they lack the ability even to learn it. the pluses work for everyone. they  just like to be angry. Mobs carrying guns, talking about tea parties.that is so stupid!the rest of the world is watching these idiots and laughing at america. is that treason? because we kicked tea out of this country. we are a coffee drinking nation. where do they want to live britain? well britain already kicked them out once and probably for the same thing. they can't get along.

                1. Sab Oh profile image61
                  Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  roll


                  someone's been drinking...

                  1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                    JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    ha ha ha not me sab  oh  i don't drink,smoke or anything. maybe i should though huh?

                2. Sab Oh profile image61
                  Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  "there was a time when i wanted to go into politics! this is a prime example as to why i would jump off a bridge before i would do something that thankless"


                  That works out well, 'cause I'd jump off a bridge if you ever got elected to public office.

                  1. earnestshub profile image87
                    earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I think there are a few people who would not mind seeing that TK. smile

                  2. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                    JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    ha ha ha sab oh you are just huntin me down. you wouldn't want me to be your president

              2. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                i'm with you! they just babble on in their unamerican non-support of the President.we backed g.w. even when he was dead wrong! oh well live and learn

                1. Sab Oh profile image61
                  Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  There is nothing 'American' about being a sheep just because your guy is in our house. More hypocrisy.

                  Who is this "we" who backed president Bush?

                  1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                    JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    we and republicans

                  2. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                    JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    sab oh- ralph is a very intelligent and experienced man it's easy to determine by the ideas that represent him.

                    first you elect someone that you believe in that you think will work for you or the people.then you sit back and or you participate.you try not to vote someone in that makes big business richer and at the same time leaves the country in a deficit

                2. dugger62 profile image60
                  dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Now Joe, that wasn't a very nice thing to say on the word  quote:

                  unamerican-   as for backing a major malfunction who should have never been in office ->G.B-  The man should have been sent to IRAQ to walk the mine field.  But  then he would have thought it to be a gold field- and digg for the wrong reason- which would have turned out right.

                  1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                    JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    ok but once you have been here and if you think it through thats what it is. we are supposed to stand behind the president. not condemn him because he made an "improvement".as with irag it was illegal but we stood behind him. now we get a long and much needed improvement(voiced even by republican nixon)and everyone goes nuts! not right!

            2. dugger62 profile image60
              dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Joe, when you use the words " shap shifting"  are you referring to - TARES?

              1. dugger62 profile image60
                dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                sorry, kind of early but i meant  " shape -> shifting-

                1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
                  JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  what is tares? i just mean all of the baseless far out unbelievable attacks he is receiving, why not add shapeshifting. but again what is tares?

                  1. dugger62 profile image60
                    dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Joe - no disresepct, but I am not going there for it will lead to another argument - maybe-  and it is another issue that people are not aware of that is going to bite them later-

                    But  I will tell you this- and you can laugh all you want- but I have seen it - I don't do drugs ( which sometime I think I should-lol) I don't drink ( which sometimes I probably should and I am as sane as anyone on here- I just have what knowledge I have and I share what I know and what I think- I am not always right- but I try to be accurate- hope I spelled that right-

                    so here it is-  there are ones who look like us, but are not of us- and I am so damn sick of mankind using terms like:  Aliens, Hybrids, & reptilians
                    because they are none of those- and sleepers -> don't notice because they are too wrapped up in other stuff around them to pay attention to people's eyes-  like you & I - we talk to people, but don't   " SEE"  who stands before us.

                    Our puplis  are  ( o )   ( o ),     theirs  -->  are  (I)   (I)     they are not  contacts either-   so  now you can call me ignorant or what ever else-  have at it-

                    But I will tell you this-  when they know you are NOT aware of them- they want to be as close as possible-

                    But  when they know you are  AWARE  of them  they get nervious as hell and want to get as far way from you as possible.

                    They are called  TARES-  and they have been here since ADAM & EVE-
                    now  I have told you what a TARE IS,  NOW  do me a favor and start paying attention to what is around you in the stores and so forth, or who you are talking to face to face.

                  2. dugger62 profile image60
                    dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I thought when you said  " shape shifting "   I thought - Oh wow, there are some more who know,  because I have a friend who have seen them also- and  Tares also shape shift.

      2. dugger62 profile image60
        dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Doug, from ACTIONS it realistic- like hello,  what part are you ignoring?

        That Obama is a scam himself- , or that his ACTIONS speak for him self and his puppets following his arms?

  12. profile image0
    Will Bensonposted 6 years ago

    Hi Dugger & welcome to HP Forum.

    Your OP raised my interest and I tried to research some of your points.

    I cannot find any mainstream press articles regarding the Obama SS# issue, it seems to be only found on partisan websites and forums.

    Verichipping - Verichip Corp. has patented an implantible microchip which can detect viral diseases. I can find nothing in the Healthcare law that mandates it. If you have a dog, there may well be an identity microchip implanted in him. Ref: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBNG49295720090921

    Obama's citizenship status was decided by the Supreme Court on Dec. 8, 2008 -- they refused to hear the case. Legal experts said it never had a chance to begin with. I think considering the court is a conservative one and that Geo. Bush was Pres. at that time, lends legitimacy to the decision. Ref:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 03710.html

    Obama may be the best president we ever had. Or, he may turn out to be the worst. If so, we have an impeachment process available and a presidential election in 2 years. That election, like most elections will be mostly decided by moderates and independent voters. Groups like Teabaggers, socialists, anarchists etc. have always been around, but even when they achieve 3rd party status, they seldom make much of an impact. Sadly, attack ads seem to, however.

    Like most people, I tend to ignore partisan information -- whether from the left or right. I would however be very interested in any mainstream references that address these issues. These are very serious points.

    My thoughts, respectfully.

  13. JOE BARNETT profile image61
    JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago

    ok soetoro is his step dads name and the rest you tell me ,"what is the reason" i want to actually see paranoia at work. 39 social security numbers im dying to know these convoluted reasons . so if you know about this then the gov't knows about this and what has happened?i will wait for your answer dugger but it sounds like "blah ,blah,blah blather,blather. let's see biggest increas in jobs in years, healthcare reform, took the banks out of student loans, slowed forclosures for the unemployed, began off shore drilling,struck the nuclear arms agreement with russia man he is a baaaaad  President. also , did you know that once,while in college he left home in  white low cut tennis shoes but when he arrived at school he had on black tie up dress shoes . . . . . . ooouuuh!

    1. dugger62 profile image60
      dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ok,  Joe-

      enjoy your week-end

      1. JOE BARNETT profile image61
        JOE BARNETTposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        hey thanks dugger this was fun, you have a good easter too

  14. aware profile image72
    awareposted 6 years ago

    huhh?

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    StormRyderposted 6 years ago

    Hey there Sab Oh...since you seem to have all the answers to everything and are so much above everyone else here in the forums in intelligence and wisdom...oh and looking up the twisted and spun one sided information on the net...why not run for office and save us all from the big bad government and the horrors it inflicts upon us. Stop wasting your insight here on hubpages...get out there and make a difference...save America!!

    1. Sab Oh profile image61
      Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "since you seem to have all the answers to everything and are so much above everyone else here in the forums in intelligence and wisdom..."

      Could you do me a favor and show me where I ever made such a claim, or could you do me a favor and cool it with the emo nonsense?

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        StormRyderposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        No emotion to it.

        I didn't say you claim this...It comes across in your replies to nearly everyone and I have seen very few if any positve posts from you. It just appears all you do is tell everyone they are wrong..unless they happen to agree with you...You post information just like they do but claim theirs is not true or flawed. You make sarcastic quips about people asking if they check their medication. I see people doing the same to you also and thats not right either.

        I just thought with your wealth of knowlege you could have it better served. smile
        If you feel so strongly about these issues be a leader..or are you like the politicans?? Talk a lot and do nothing..

        I'm happy with my life and my government..always have been regardless of which party is in power. I have worked for both.

        1. Sab Oh profile image61
          Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          " It just appears all you do is tell everyone they are wrong..unless they happen to agree with you..."

          Wait a minute...are you saying that I disagree with those who have views in opposition to mine and agree with those who share similar views? How could I have not seen this?! What was I thinking?

          My whole world is upside down now...I've got to go meditate on this revelation...

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    cypha's worldposted 6 years ago

    First off u must Sarah Palin in disguise...it seems your will be against our President no matter what he decided to do.
    Second, you need to address the President of the United States with a little more respect. If he was George bush you would have called him President Bush, so this man deserves the same type of respect.
    Thirdly as for the reform bill, I think everyone should have healthcare. I do not seem to understand what the damn problem is with everyone having healthcare. Why do we not want people to be covered. If more people have healthcare then there will be more people getting treatment for disease and we would not have to worry about the spread of comunicable diseases because these people would go to the dr more often and get the proper treatment that they need.
    Stop comcerning yourself with the unnecessary issues of whether or not our president has a valid ss#. He is in office now and he needs the support of THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...give it to him the same woy you gave it to Mr. Bush

    1. dugger62 profile image60
      dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Cypha's world-

      First off I am just me. Second you can research anything I have written and you will see what I have posted about maulfunctioned GB-

      And Thirdly, I don't disagree with anyone and every one having HEALTH CARE- so please stop adding words to what I have stated.

      What I do care about is someone trying to FORCE it on people- and the ones forcing it onto people - doesn't want to be partakers of what they are giving.  And lets be honest here-

      I don't know if you have any children- but I am sure you probably have someone you certainly care about correct?    Well  lets use an example here ok-   would you allow a company to come into your concerned victims home  and tell them that they must go into a home because of their  age?
      And you were there and said-- Now wait just a minute here- you can't do that !   Well tell me " did you get to vote on the passed bill - that all elderly must leave their homes at a certain age?  Just an example- so don't let it go to your head.  Or lets say someone came and took a child because  in that bill all children are to go live in a military training camp at the age of 10? 
      All I am saying here is " What happens when the Government gets it all?

      Tell me- what happens when you have no more say- which has already happened?  I mean lets go over this-  I don't know how many of you out there have even heard of the so called  FEDS shutting down Taylor, Bean & Whitaker and turned a large part of the LOANS over to  BANK OF AMERICA <--- That is also being kept hush-hush!  Do you know who has major investments with  BANK of  AMERICA? 

      Let me just lay it out for you- The Banks, Car Co.,  people's homes & land, Healthcare-  Have you researched TENT CITIES?  Now,  when the government has control over EVERYTHING-  what does that tell you?  What picture has not been clicked ?   Then the People WILL HAVE to rely on the government only ! What gives a government power over the people? By controlling everything, what options will you have when you don't want  what they have for you without  your own choice?

      Can you honestly say you know what is in that package?  How can anyone say "  Oh it is something good  for us all"  if they don't even know what it all pertains to- 

      And I will be honest here because I'm not a liar and I know what I SEE- and have SEEN-  every thing the government officials have ever touched has turned to ----- I won't use it but you know what I am saying.

      When We The People are no longer heard, or listened to, or given actual proof of what was passed for their concern, instead of for ours- then something really smells in the U.S.

      Here is another example that some brush off like its nothing but you better pay attention- What was it Katherine Sebelius of Sec. of Health & Human service prevented if an idiot fell for the H1N1?

      As for Ebola -> investigate Taipan Snake.

    2. dugger62 profile image60
      dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ps.. as for Sarah Palin - she's probably GB's lost sister- another crack pot wanting a crack at the pot.

  17. Sab Oh profile image61
    Sab Ohposted 6 years ago

    Is she one of the Weed People too?

    1. dugger62 profile image60
      dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I don't know- is she part of the blood line? I haven't researched her yet- but I would trust my dog before I would her.

      1. Sab Oh profile image61
        Sab Ohposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Is your dog talking to you, giving you all these 'interesting' ideas?

        1. dugger62 profile image60
          dugger62posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Lol- Sab Oh,

          Your sweet,  but when my dog starts talking- I'm  taking him to Hollywood

 
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