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Health Care- Lower Cost!!!---Not! Saw link today about Rise in Cost!

  1. Michael Willis profile image77
    Michael Willisposted 6 years ago

    Way to go---Health Care reform. Everyone tried to promise that cost of Health Care would go down with the Bill that passed Congress.
    Well, I know in Arkansas it will go up. Wonder how long before other States follow?
    http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/sto … mp;catid=2

    1. ElenaLebedeva profile image61
      ElenaLebedevaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Hi, you know i agree wit;h everything you saying. They don't know what they  are doing. All I want to see is those people with big buck, loose everything they owe and try to survivve in medium or low class. they won't be able do it.  all i know they should make them pay big on insurance and fee's.

      1. tony0724 profile image59
        tony0724posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        ?

    2. Ralph Deeds profile image69
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Of course health care costs will go up as they have been doing for the past fifty years or so. The hope is that some of the measures in the recently passed bill will help slow the rate of increase in costs. Some of these measures will be slow to show any effect. And perhaps more needs to be done to control costs. Maybe they will have to actually have "death panels" as critics claimed incorrectly were in the original House bill.

      1. JON EWALL profile image47
        JON EWALLposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        ralph

        HOPE?  forget about hope, the government can't provide hope,the people need jobs now not hope.

        Wake up American, every day the people lose more hope because this government is inept and corrupt.

        1. Michael Willis profile image77
          Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That's the problem with this bill...it is based on Hope to help Americans.
          I hope the Insurance companies will have compassion and reduce costs.
          I hope Hospitals will lower costs.
          I hope Doctors will lower their fees.
          I hope the government subsidies will "give me" insurance.
          I hope I can afford this.
          I hope I can trust the Government.
          I hope I will be approved for care.
          I hope........etc
          Hope is not Facts!

    3. LiamBean profile image88
      LiamBeanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I didn't see anything in the bill that forced insurers to lower premiums or charge the insured less. The 15% profit cap only applies to "large group policies," whatever "large" means.

  2. Ohma profile image79
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    Micheal I think this is the tip of the iceberg. All the companies will follow they really do not have a choice. There is no way to recoup what they are going to lose down the road so they have to plan ahead.
    Just my thoughts.

    1. Michael Willis profile image77
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You are right. There is more to come. That's why I have been against the "passed Bill", but for Health Care reform.....which means "Reform the Industry and fraud, not reform the people to pay into the problems."

  3. Ohma profile image79
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    The way the Bill is written these insurance companies are getting ready to be Butt F*cked and they know it. They have got to get what they can now and bail out all together whenthe time comes to keep an profit.

    1. Michael Willis profile image77
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I thing we are in agreement. From Insurance companies perspective....they have no choice in their reasoning to raise rates to make a profit
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      Obama/Democrats to "sell" his plan to Americans...This Bill will make Insurance "affordable" to all Americans.

      My issue with all of this is---How do you make Insurance More Affordable by raising the cost of Insurance???

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        cosetteposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        more Obamaspeak. he also said when he campaigned he wanted to help the environment. so how does offshore drilling help the enviroment again?

  4. Ohma profile image79
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    When The major players in the insurance industry close their doors and we are all forced onto government insurance the cost will be lower the care will be worse and OUR TAXES WILL BE HIGHER>

    1. Michael Willis profile image77
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ditto!

  5. Ohma profile image79
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    And my husband tells me I am a reactionary big_smile

    1. Michael Willis profile image77
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      lol. "To every action there is a reaction."

    2. ElenaLebedeva profile image61
      ElenaLebedevaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      lol my man says the samething. I guess growing up in Soviet union and going through what we went through ro have we lived some people won't be able to understand. my man says I over react. I don't want to go what i went through in my country. Plus I don't see nothing wrong showing feelings nothing wrong that means you care.

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image69
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      He's probably right, judging by your comments.

  6. tony0724 profile image59
    tony0724posted 6 years ago

    And if that is not bad enough Newsbusters just had an article where they are projecting $4.00 a gallon and $150.00 a barrel and some cap and trade tax onto that and YIKES !

  7. Ohma profile image79
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    I cant decide if we should tar and feather the idiot or just ship him to Iraq

  8. MikeNV profile image76
    MikeNVposted 6 years ago

    There is absolutely nothing in the Bill to contain costs.

    As employee costs rise employers will look to layoff and move more operations offshore.

    The Banks... Bank of America for example is looking to spend an additional $1 Billion outsourcing to India.  They were planning to do that long before the Health Care bill.  Now it will just escalate.

    Companies will choose to pay fines if they are cheaper.  So this will just be a tax on business, that will not benefit the employee in any way.

    You can't "fix" a broken system by just throwing money at it.  And that's all this bill does... it forces the average person to throw more money at the problem.

    The United States already has the most expensive "health care" in the World.

    Obama chose to demonize the Insurance Industry.  They operate on pretty thin margins as it is now.  Nothing in the bill controls the costs of Hospitals, Pharmaceuticals, or Medical Equipment.

    Hospitals charge 1,000's per day for their crappy rooms. $6 for a Tylenol etc.

    On the flip side hospitals are FORCED to treat anyone who walks through the emergency room door... legal or not and whether they can pay or not.  So those costs get passed along.  Anything in the Bill to address this cost?  No.

    The real PAIN to the individual in this Bill intentionally kicks in AFTER this falls elections.

    More bad news coming.

    1. Michael Willis profile image77
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Businesses calculating the cost difference of paying the fines versus buying the insurance was in the article I linked.  Businesses can afford the fines better than an individual. Businesses have other tax deductions they can use.
      The Individual is the one who ends up the buyer of insurance even when he has a job. Business refuse to buy insurance and the government fines Both the business and the individual!!! Guess Obama has come up with a way to raise funds. Double Fines!

    2. Michael Willis profile image77
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Just as the mandate for individuals to buy comes into law AFTER the Obama re-election attempt.  You think that was also calculated? You betcha!

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image69
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Mike you have a bad habit of making, to put it politely, highly innacurate comments. It's not true that there is nothing in the bill to contain costs. It would improve our discussions if we all would confine ourselves to the facts.

  9. Ohma profile image79
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    Sorry Mr. Deeds we disagree on politics. So do my husband and I but I still respect him and his opinions. smile

  10. Michael Willis profile image77
    Michael Willisposted 6 years ago

    True or False: Health Care is made more Affordable by raising the cost of Health Care Insurance?

    People want facts. Obama claims HE is making Health Care More affordable. True or False? No what ifs or Could be if....Will the cost raise or not.
    Affordable = Raise Cost. Excuses don't mean much.

    1. Michael Willis profile image77
      Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      A simple fact---Higher cost does not equal more affordable.

  11. Ohma profile image79
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    So true!

  12. Will Apse profile image92
    Will Apseposted 6 years ago

    You can't expect lower costs if the private insurers are kept in the loop. As I understand it, Obama tried to give the US something like a National Health system but it was blocked. National Health systems remove a huge amount of unnecessary bureaucracy.

    Get sick in the UK and the only form you will have to fill in asks no more than your name, address and National Insurance number. If you don't have the number, they look it up on a computer and that is the bureaucracy finished as far as the patient is concerned.

  13. Michael Willis profile image77
    Michael Willisposted 6 years ago

    American business is all about profit.  That can be good and be bad. But when a person's health is based on profits...that is simply wrong.

 
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