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Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax

  1. Cagsil profile image59
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    Hey Hubberville,

    Check out this article and give your opinions.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100407/ap_ … s_no_taxes

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Is that like people without jobs?  Those jerks!  lol

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
        Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        "Is that like people without jobs?  Those jerks!  lol"

        Very funny. FYI unemployment benefits are taxable. Aside from that, it's hard to collect taxes from people who don't have jobs. Of course the only reason they don't have jobs is because they are lazy bums who prefer to be unemployed. As I recall in a recession back in the 1960s or 70s a Republican candidate said there are two kinds of people "bird dogs (the worker bees) and kennel dogs (the unemployed)."

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          sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          That was a bit rash for a rational man.  Not everyone who is unemployed collects unemployment.  And not everyone who doesn't have job is a lazy bum either.

          1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
            Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry if I misinterpreted your comment. I took it to mean you were calling the unemployed "jerks. lol" Very true that not all unemployed people collect benefits.

  2. William R. Wilson profile image61
    William R. Wilsonposted 7 years ago

    This:



    Pretty much gives the lie to this:

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      Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Not really, because those that DO pay income taxes are paying those other taxes as well!

      1. William R. Wilson profile image61
        William R. Wilsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        But there are very few people who are getting something for nothing (unless your corporation is getting government subsidies).

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          Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          People that aren't making a lot of money aren't paying taxes and are likely receiving benefits from programs to help the poor, in addition all the things that government uses tax money for they also enjoy the benefit of.

          1. William R. Wilson profile image61
            William R. Wilsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            No, people who make very little money still pay taxes.  Social security and Medicare come directly out of your paycheck.  Plus there are sales and excise taxes.

      2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
        Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Don't forget the 52,000 rich Americans who have secret Swiss bank accounts. Plus others in Antigua, the Bahamas and other offshore locations. And the multinational corporations who have stashed profits in their overseas subsidiaries rather than repatriating them and paying U.S. corporate taxes. Not to mention the hedge fund managers who pay only 15% capital gains tax on their billions of "earnings."

        1. Jane@CM profile image59
          Jane@CMposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ralph, you caught me!  lol

  3. flread45 profile image82
    flread45posted 7 years ago

    Even if you get money back,it doesn't add up to what they withheld from you.

    1. Padrino profile image60
      Padrinoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That's not true!

      My girlfriend is a waitress, she made just over 10,000 last year plus tips!

      She has 4 kids!

      The Federal return was $8000!

      Clueless!!!


      *** My bad $8345.00***

  4. MikeNV profile image72
    MikeNVposted 7 years ago

    "Don't forget the 52,000 rich Americans who have secret Swiss bank accounts"

    This made me laugh.  Seriously think about that statement.

    How "Secret" can they be if there is an EXACT number ... in this case 52,000 "Rich Americans" with offshore accounts.

    Bush and Obama both encourage policy that pushes profits out of the country.

    If ever there were an argument for LESS Government this only proves the point.

    Always the ignorance.

    1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
      Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The Swiss banks have provided that number but have refused to provide the names of the American tax dodgers because of Swiss bank secrecy laws. (I believe UBS is going to provide 10,000 names but hasn't done so yet.)

      (You are the one who's ignorant, pal.)

      1. JOE BARNETT profile image59
        JOE BARNETTposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        ha ha ha

  5. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    This is similar to Australian taxation. Not taxing the poor and offering benefits for poor and low pay families with children has improved the economy here.

    Long term benefits are in. It works because it reduces the cost of living enough to avert a lot of long term social problems that are poverty related.

  6. Doug Hughes profile image60
    Doug Hughesposted 7 years ago

    "The wealthiest 1 percent of families owns roughly 34.3%  of the nation's net worth, the top 10% of families owns over 71%, and the bottom 40% of the population owns way less than 1%."

    In fact, the data shows that the bottom 60% by poulation own about 5% of the net worth of the country.

    So who do YOU think should be paying the bulk of the taxes?

    1. Padrino profile image60
      Padrinoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The bottom 60%

      They receive 100% of the benefits!

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
        Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        "The bottom 60%

        They receive 100% of the benefits!"

        How do you figure that? Did you ever visit a National Park? Drive on an Interstate Highway? Deposit money in a bank insured by the FDIC? And so forth?

        Care to retract that foolish statement? Probably not. I suspect you don't find it easy to admit when you are wrong.

        1. Padrino profile image60
          Padrinoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Jesus!

          No, I don't mean you!

          Yeah, I visited a national park, I took some oak leaves!

          Ever tried to spend an oak leaf?

          What exactly would be your point?

          Do you think those in the 60% are contributing to the National Parks?

          Jesus, not you!

          1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
            Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            As I suspected.

            1. Padrino profile image60
              Padrinoposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Excellent retort roll

              Means absolutely nothing, but excellent!

              1. Doug Hughes profile image60
                Doug Hughesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                What he means is - you won't retract a stupid statement.

                Taxes pay for a wide spectrum of services from national defense, which protects and defends the wealth of the rich more than the poor -  to roads, cleanwater, national parks,etc.

                All you can see is that someone at the botttom of the ladder is lazy and deserves to starve - such is the hateful philosophy of wingnuts.

  7. bgpappa profile image85
    bgpappaposted 7 years ago

    If conservatives hate taxes so much, then why are you upset that half of housesolds don't pay any?

    But as Ralph put it so perfectly, everyone pays taxes one way or another.  The issue really is who should pay more or less.

    By the way, my household is one of the 1/2 that didn't owe federal taxes this year, got a nice refund.  And believe it or not, I have a job.  But that doesn't mean I didn't pay any income tax, I did.

    Plus I owe $700 to the State of California.

    1. IntimatEvolution profile image84
      IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Seems you can't please Republicans ever. I'm with you one this.  Conservatives want less taxes, so they complain because that is happening?  I don't get that either.

  8. AEvans profile image72
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    I wish we could escape ***sigh*** and we haven't seen money back in years, lucky that they don't have to pay smile

 
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