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Did Obama's Roots Lead Him To Socialism?

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    Poppa Bluesposted 6 years ago

    This all makes perfect sense and explains why Obama believes as he does in socialist principles. Now that we have established that he is a socialist we need to answer the question, Is a man with such beliefs the right person to lead America?

    Even if you think it doesn't matter, don't you think it's wise to watch carefully and question with skepticism the agenda he is advancing?

    By Peter J. Smith

    WASHINGTON, D.C., April 7, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Conservative commentator Glenn Beck revealed evidence which he says shows that President Obama’s upbringing was steeped in socialism - the primary political ideology Beck contends formed the man who has made clear he intends to “fundamentally transform America.”

    While Beck emphasized repeatedly on his FOX television program that he was not attacking Obama’s family, he said that Americans should know the philosophical foundations of Obama’s life and that “the tragedy of this kid’s childhood is staggering."

    “His parents seemed to place radical politics over everything else, including their little boy,” said Beck. “How many of us have been abandoned for a Marxist political theory or politics? This didn’t happen to little Barack Obama once, but twice, by both parents.”

    Obama’s father, Barack Obama, Sr., Beck described as “a committed communist,” who left his son at the tender age of two to pursue his Harvard education as an economist and then return to Kenya as a bureaucrat. The Senior Obama advised Kenya’s government to redistribute income by higher taxes, and would also quote Marx to express his distrust of the capitalist system. 

    Regarding Stanley Ann Dunham, the U.S. president's mother, Beck said that a friend of Dunham described her as a “fellow traveler” – a code word for committed Marxists – and she was alleged to be a practitioner of “critical theory,” which Beck described as “Marx to the extreme.”

    Beck pointed out that Obama himself described his mother in his autobiography Dreams of My Father as “the dominant figure in my formative years,” and said that “The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the words of politics.” 

    “I’m sure she was a great mom,” Beck said of Dunham, but he emphasized that the passage showed that his mother had a critical ideological influence on Obama and his political vision.

    Dunham moved from Hawaii to Indonesia, and later left her son with her parents in order to pursue a life for herself in Pakistan, according to the pundit.

    Although Obama portrayed his mother’s parents in his autobiography as “conservative Methodists and Baptists from Kansas,” Beck said that the available evidence revealed a different story. 

    Beck said Obama’s grandparents, who raised Obama while he was in high school, actually attended the Eastshore Unitarian Church in Bellevue, Washington - a hotbed of radical leftists. He said the church was described by the Chicago Tribune as the “little red church on the hill,” and that communist John Stenhouse “also happened to serve as the church president - possibly contributing to the ‘red’ label.”

    In addition, said Beck, Barack’s grandfather introduced Obama to a Black communist to be his personal mentor. Obama would only identify the mentor in his autobiography as “Frank,” but Beck pointed to a New Zealand blogger who claimed to discover that Obama was referring to Frank Marshall Davis, “a black poet and a communist with an FBI file.”

    “It is amazing to me, this kid didn’t have a chance to be rooted in the Founding Fathers, this guy doesn’t have a chance to actually think anything but radical thoughts based on everybody in his life so far,” exclaimed Beck.

    Again, Beck pointed to Obama’s autobiography where he includes “the Marxist professors” among those friends whom he said he chose carefully.

    Beck concluded that the trajectory of Obama’s life shows the President has always been influenced mainly by Marxist/socialist theory, even in the selection of his church, which he attended for over 20 years: Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church, which espoused “black liberation theology – Marxism.” 

    “When, when did he change?” said Beck, arguing that no evidence exists to even indicate how, when, or why Obama would have had a fundamental political conversion from his Marxist/socialist roots.

    “When you build the house, the first thing you do is pour a foundation. He wants to fundamentally transform this county. He is the architect and they are building something,” concluded Beck.

    “We know what his foundation is. What is he building on that foundation?”

    1. Greek One profile image80
      Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      1) Lots of great men tried to 'fundamentally transform America.”

      2) One would think that as his father "abandoned him for a Marxist political theory or politics", he would grow up hating these concepts (see my interview with Elmer Fudd).  I don't see evidence that Obama's Father was an actual communist in the article, by the way.

      3) Beck quotes Obama writing "The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the words of politics".  Values.. you know, like Family Values... not political theory

      4) Even Walter Cronkite had an FBI fle.. does that make him an evil man?? lol

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        Poppa Bluesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I think one has to look at things in total and not just pick on a detail here and there. I would agree you can't say any one of these particular things makes him a socialist, but taken in total along with other things not in that article and comparing that with his words and actions today, I'd have to say you'd have a pretty good case to at least suspect him of socialist beliefs. Now I suppose you could still be wrong, but what if you're not? What if the man is a dyed in the wool socialist and committed to changing America to comply with his vision? Should we discount all these questions and ignore them? Should we not question the motives of his policies? Does it make more sense to attack his detractors then it does to question his policies?

        1. Padrino profile image60
          Padrinoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          We are supposed to follow blindly as they do.

        2. Greek One profile image80
          Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I think I could make a stronger case that Reagan was secretly a communist...

          His father was an alcoholc, and thus was not able to instill in him the traditional family values all good conservatives need

          He was a head of a union (could you imagine what they would say if Obama was that!!)

          He was a actor, and those artsy types are known to hang around communists and other pinkos.

          His formative politioal years were spent supporting Roosevelt and the new Deal

          He was willing to deal with with Gorbachev

          1. Padrino profile image60
            Padrinoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            He was also a Democrat once upon a time ago, but then he saw the error of his ways. I like how you admit that FDR was a communist though!

            1. Greek One profile image80
              Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              did he REALLY see the error of his ways??

              Didn't a great man once say that "When you build the house, the first thing you do is pour a foundation"

              PS.. if it wasn't for FDR, you all might be drinking vodka and driving Ladas right now

              1. Padrino profile image60
                Padrinoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I don't know did a great man say that?

                I have worn vodka back when I drank a lot so I guess FDR didn't save me from that.

                1. Greek One profile image80
                  Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Glen Beck just said it... see the first post

                  1. Padrino profile image60
                    Padrinoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    You consider Glen Beck a great man? I don't know much about him but I don't think any political commentator is "great" but,it's your life.

                    Exactly how did FDR save us from the Russians?

  2. Padrino profile image60
    Padrinoposted 6 years ago

    The attacks on Beck should occur any moment.

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      Poppa Bluesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Well that's the strategy isn't it? Deflect and distract, change the conversation, whatever it takes to avoid the truth, and confront the questions. This is the left, none of this matters as long as they stay the course and enforce their socialist agenda.

  3. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    Beck's a wonderful man. Why, he's the most informed, smart handsome creature on tv.
    I set my clock every night to make sure i don't miss my Glenn.
    Oh what a patriot!
    Oh what an American!
    I just love him!
    And just think, it was HIM who started the elect Sarah campaing at the first Tea-Bag event he hosted courtesy of Fox.

    I just wish that darn Jon Stewart would stop pestering him by showing old clips of him that totally lack any resemblance to my Glenny and the man that he is today.
    Everybody has the right to change their mind, right?
    So what if it happens weekly, that's just my Glenny.

  4. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 6 years ago

    I'm not a big Beck fan. To me, he's the right's version of Olberman. My husband loves Beck, however.

  5. Padrino profile image60
    Padrinoposted 6 years ago

    To comment on the topic of your thread I say that most of our parents have some influence on our initial political leanings. Over time we gradually start to have our own opinions based on our philosophy of life, at least some of us do. Others seem to have a group think mentality and are influenced by friends or even smooth liars like Obama! Unfortunately I was induced to vote for Obama by his words of change, but its not change to continue to go down the road we were on only faster!

    I include the Tea party movement in the group think mentality set. There are plenty of members of the tea party who are just going against Obama because other people are. I do not think they are a majority of that group but they are there.

  6. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    Ah-so Obama is a smooth liar.
    hm, a communist, a socialist, a fascist, a Hitler-like figure, a tyrant, an Indonesian muslim terrorist, a non-citizen, AND a smooth liar.
    Boy! We sure can pick em!

    But I'll watch my Glenny...maybe he'l tell me Why oh Why this had to happen> *sob*  ooohhhh the Pain *gulp* *sob*

    (hey you--get me my tears....NOW!)

    1. Padrino profile image60
      Padrinoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, I said he is a smooth liar! But the other stuff you created in your head, you scare me!

  7. Ron Montgomery profile image61
    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago

    Gooooooooooooooood Morning Vietnam!

    1. Padrino profile image60
      Padrinoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Very well, uh, spewed.

  8. Obscure Divine profile image60
    Obscure Divineposted 6 years ago

    Maybe his roots did grow from anti-American soil.  But, either way, if he keeps kneeling before other countries' leaders while making us look very-very weak, and keeps pulling more control into the hands of our current government, we will continue to spiral down the American toilet.  I'd say most people will begin to recognize this more & more, with or without TV talk-show hosts that promote such things. 

    We need another crazy Ronald Reagon in the house, to represent us free-spirited kooks - without all of the sissy propaganda & BS!  Then again, if I had it my way, I'd welcome anarchy any day...

  9. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    Ronald Reagan warned of an alien invasion....look in Beck's eyes...They're Heeere.

  10. MikeNV profile image75
    MikeNVposted 6 years ago

    Obama is a puppet and his agenda is one of Money.  Beck is from Washington and has to fill what... an hour every day?  He has to talk about something.  I'm pretty neutral on Beck.  You can't know the agenda from conjecture.

    Obama is very much interested in himself and that's about it.  He does whatever makes him money.

    That's why his half brother still lives in a hut.  Seriously if the guy was interested in anything other than himself don't you think he would be doing something about that?

  11. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    But that's the problem with Beck...people take him seriously.
    I'll bet there are people who think Obama does hate white people...even though his mother and grandparenst who raised him are white. Is that a sane thing to say?

    And if he should oh so casually mention that "you know the gvt. is out to get you...maybe you'd better arm yourself at the next rally"...people woud do it. And if he oh so casually mentioned "you know they want to take away all your freedoms and put you in Fema camps and take all your property", you know people will believe him and be loaded for bear and any little thing will pop their trigger.
    Then he will hide behind the 1st amendment like O'Really? did when he pushed that kook to kill Tiller.

    They get away with murder. If anyone had even so much as said the word "gun" at a Bush rally, they would be in prison to this day.

    1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ron Paul told the Southern Republicans that Obama is a "corporatist," not a socialist. He must have taken at least on economics course because Obama isn't remotely close to being a socialist (or a Nazi, communist, Muslim or alien from outer space).