Timothy McVeigh and OKC terrorist attack

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   chasingcarsposted 14 years ago

   The anniversary of Timothy McVeigh's attack in Oklahoma City is April 19.  Rachael Maddow will air interviews with him on Monday, April 19 at 9 p.m.  McVeigh was since tried, found guilty, and has been executed unrepentent. With the rise of hate groups in American politics and their insertion into the Tea Party Movement, it is time to shed the spotlight on these evil groups.  For a map of hate groups, go to , the Southern Poverty Law Center website. Today, Maddow interviewed Bud Welch whose daughter was murdered in this cowardly attack; he is now heading up a group against the capital punishment.  This is grace in the face of evil.

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      JWestCattleposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So, you work for Bill Clinton and the Democratic Party.  You could be a bit more subtle.

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   Isn't that Maddow woman gay? I think she has an agenda with an ax to grind. You have to take her position with a grain of salt. I think all reporters on the news should declare their political allies so we can better tell what their up to.
   
   Violence of any kind is repulsive! The problem is you have to be fair about what you say. It wasn't long ago when the violence was perpetrated around the world by Leftists. So lets put a stop to all violence based on politics and show some tolerance for the views of others. That would mean just because you say its so don't make it so.

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      Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Rejoice! People of Oklahoma City. Your loved didn't die in that cowardly bombing by Tim McVeigh. No No It was just lies made up by Rachel Maddow and those leftist.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Take a break Larry.

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            Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            ......OK! Breaks over.  What does a persons sex life have to do with murder and lies? "Violence of any kind is repulsive!" is the latest lie you people thought up. I heard it too many times in the last few weeks.  A phrase you can hide behind after the next right wing attack on this Country.

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               sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Nothing. I was just being silly, I actually watch her from time to time but I don't think any reporter or editorialist should get a pass on their personal views while questioning someone elses. You don't see that so much with the reporters on the right because they shout out their beliefs.

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      JWestCattleposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      

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      Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Tolerance for gays would be a good place for you to start.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Ralph I don't wish anyone ill-will but, I am a Christian and I hold to those values. I do believe gays should have the right to civil unions that assure them the rights and privalages they deserve. I don't agree with taking something that matters to the religious and just dismissing it as nothing.

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I thought you were a Mormon.

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               Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               He doesn't realize some have more confidence in gay people than those who follow a con man's fake bible. LOL

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            woolman60posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            What McVeigh did was commit “Domestic Violence “against innocent American men, women and children, who did not have a chance that day.
            
            It does not matter what race, creed or sexual preference you are when reporting this story, the story is about  a person who killed innocent people that day, and to show America that he has not shown any remorse what so ever for his cowardly act, I think Maddow’s was being an American like you and me and showing us what kind of sick individual McVeigh is, and as for Rachael Maddow’s sexual preference who cares, is she hurting anyone with her sexual preference, no she isn’t, she is just doing her job and what she loves to do.

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      Jeff Berndtposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "Isn't that Maddow woman gay?" What possible difference does that make? Do you prefer missionary position or doggy-style? Do you like maple syrup or honey on your pancakes? Does your preference for maple syrup over honey inform your politics? And what business is it of mine, anyway?
      
      "I think she has an agenda with an ax to grind. You have to take her position with a grain of salt." Yeah, because gay people all think alike on issues of national security.
      
      "The problem is you have to be fair about what you say. It wasn't long ago when the violence was perpetrated around the world by Leftists." I don't think anybody said that Leftists never perpetrated political violence. So let's not muddy the waters, shall we? There's history, and there's current events. Which are we talking about?
      
      "So lets put a stop to all violence based on politics and show some tolerance for the views of others." That would be nice. Let's do that.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   Not domestic violence...terrorism.

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      Ohmaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I agree. and yes he should have been put to death.

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      alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I thought he was an American ex-army guy who had a beef with the authorities?  This is not terrorism as apparently he was not out to terrorise, just blow the place up as an act of revenge.  Calling it terrorism is to muddy the fact that he is a product of the society around him - of which you are a part if you are american. To look outside is to deny that change is needed inside.
      
      And surely the guy was crazy anyway ?

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         Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         McVeigh had been a member of or involved in the Michigan Militia. My recollection is that his motive was revenge for the FBI assault on the Branch Davidians early in the Clinton administration.

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            alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Why does the US tolerate hate groups, especially armed !  Don't y'all have laws against racist activities etc?
            
            In the UK we have the Welsh Liberation Army who went through a period of burning down English owned holiday homes in Wales. They were pretty much all (about 30 of them) arrested in their lorry out doing training excercises, war games, in the same area used by the British Army.  I lived next door to one of these bright sparks and helped him move his things to a new address; in the car I asked him about his hate for the English and how I was an English guy helping him out. He told me "well your alright mate, for an English bastard, its them others isn't it!"

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   Ohmaposted 14 years ago

   So maybe domestic terrorism?

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      alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      ok then !  I think we can mate the two

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         Ohmaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         

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            alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            

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   chasingcarsposted 14 years ago

   The point I was making is that as voters and deliberators of politics, we need to stay informed about the source of our problems and not assign names to them and forget them.  This anniversary  marks the deaths of innocents sacrificed on the altar of self-serving anger.  We have the right to get angry (I know I am at what America is allowing itself to become), but we do not have the right to force or ideas and problems on others.
   The point Maddow is making with this airing is that we are paying more attention to American Idol than to our home-grown terrorists.  If you listen to any of McVeigh's tapes, you will find that he was a carad-carrying member of several militias, was angry at the Waco incident, and wanted to make everyone afraid of the militias.  That is the definition of terrorism, but the point is that we need to be paying more attention to home-grown nut jobs.  Our democracy is at stake here.

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