Is FOX News a catalyst for change or fodder for the masses?

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habeeposted 13 years ago
Randy, I got in the pool for the first time today. It was great! You and Beth should come over tomorrow.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'll ask Beth what her plans are.
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habeeposted 13 years ago
RD, Sandi will be here - not sure about Robert.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Okay, is she backing Oscar?
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  habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sure - she's his campaign manager! lol. I'm going to volunteer to write his speeches.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Who's going to read them for him?
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donotfearposted 13 years ago
And the battle roars on!!!!!
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Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago
I am actually quite pleased when obnoxious trolls and pro-war conservatives disagree with my views. Guilty-until-proven- innocent advocates are not people I want supporting my opinions.

These same posters elected a man who used the same logic to devastate an already troubled country. Hitler used the same "we must invade them because they are a danger to us" excuse to invade countries as Dumbya did.

Just like Dumbya's supporters, many of Hitlers people still thought he was a good guy. So thanks guys!
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It is really quite impressive the broad assumptions and accusations you make about those who disagree with you -- it is rather Dumbya in nature. Dumbya now being a coined word soon to be added to the dictionary for describing - political and rhetorical dumbness.
  
  Your Hitler comments and pretty much everything you said as well, don't warrant addressing -- just the general dumbness of your assumptions and words.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I really appreciate it, JWC. If you or the troll agreed with me I would feel terrible.
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So glad you appreciate it. And when you and the other ignorant paid trolls that do nothing but try to squash intelligent conversation and comment and debate actually get a real job that requires a little sweat more than a few hours a day, we'll all be glad for the silence of your rabid and ignorant and anonymous UN-American voice.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I actually have three jobs JWC. This is not including my writing. And I promise you, if you ever say anything intelligent I will not squash it.
  
  It is funny when you call me a troll though. My profile name is actually mine. I am not afraid to post under my real name. What's your excuse?
  
  And who made you the judge of who is un-American. Oh gee, I keep forgetting you know what most Americans think. How did you get these powers now? Let me guess. Self appointed? Of course, who else would choose you?
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Fairly sure it is you who likes to use the word troll regularly in a weak attempt to denigrate those who disagree with you - so Own It.
  
  And if you work three jobs, then you ought not be here, or is that three user names here at hubpages? Lots to juggle, I'd imagine.
  
  And who made me the judge of Un-American? Of course, me, I would choose me. I don't throw out the view of liberals as baseless trolls, I agree with many liberal issues, but Un-Americans don't wish to have any other rigid viewpoint than their own -- in the interests of their own well-being, rather than the country as a whole. Can you grasp that?
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I did grasp that if you didn't notice. There was no doubt you were self appointed. I call no one trolls but trolls. I did not call you a troll and wouldn't. The troll agrees with you, in case you can't tell the difference.
  
  Hint: wears a nun habit and a hockey mask.
  
  Boy, to be all-knowing you sure are wrong about things. I have only one account here. You sure do avoid questions like a troll though.
  
  It is sad you think anyone who disagree with you is un-American. Let me guess again. Baptist? Fundamentalist surely? You know, those which believe the scripture "judge not lest ye be judged."
  
  These cults are the worst at judging others. Right? Wrong? You tell me.
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Wrong. You tap dance in your posts and come off middling sometimes, but when it comes down to it, your true stance comes through. You delicately make accusations, and think you can back up and play nice and no one will notice.
  
  And No -- I didn't notice you grasped anything of an equivocal nature, and your own clear 'self-appointed' leanings we all can see, read, and grasp.
  
  So, in your description of a troll you refer to Sab Oh's photo apparently, how interesting, and racist, and judgmental. Does it disturb you?
  
  And no, I'm not a fundamental Baptist, but it is enlightening that you would judge me so....and apparently you think that Baptists are a cult? And so, presumably, all Christian religion? How interesting.
  
  Right, Wrong, You tell all of us........
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Apparently, you do not know all religious groups are cults. Not self appointed, as you so eagerly admit to being. I do not speak for "most of the people" as you seem to do often. I speak my own views on subjects.
  
  So my "guess" was wrong about you being part of the religious right? I apologize if I wrongly guessed about you being part of that cult.
  
  What racist remark are you referring to? Nun's habit? Hockey mask? You tell me!
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  Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Apparently, you do not know all religious groups are cults. "
  
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You should tell all of us what is racist. The liberals have the corner on just what is considered racist these days -- do they not? So do share. As for the rest, your comments fall flat and ineffective as a defense to your prior words -- as usual.
  
  As for religious groups all being cults, I would suggest you back up, the Muslims might not be happy with your comment.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, don't back out now! You inferred I said said something racist, so tell me what I said. Either that or admit you were wrong. I said nothing of a racial nature. Are you sure you aren't a church-goer?
  
  Once again, all religions are considered to be cults. Apparently you consider the word "cult" to be something bad. With your political views, I am surprised you would be concerned with Muslims being happy or not.
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh darn, how about we skip your racially masked and profiling description that pointed all your viewers to Sab Oh, and take it to your statement that all religions are cults -- racist and judgmental enough for you? Why don't you address any other issues raised by me? Afraid you cannot? Good to know.
  
  As I said before:
  
  You should tell all of us what is racist. The liberals have the corner on just what is considered racist these days -- do they not? So do share. As for the rest, your comments fall flat and ineffective as a defense to your prior words -- as usual.
  
  As for religious groups all being cults, I would suggest you back up, the Muslims might not be happy with your comment.
  
  Get the message?
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, how about you point out my racist remark. Calling me a racist is a personal attack. I abhor racism. I've lived deeply mired amongst many of them and to be accused of being racist in any form is repugnant to me in the extreme!
  
  If you don't want to discuss subjects in a reasonable manner then say so. And you were admonishing someone earlier for what you took to be "twisting words."
  
  If you like, I can contact HP staff and get their opinion on your accusation. Sure, a ban for a personal attack is only a few days the first time. Probably preferable to an apology in your case.
  
  Or you can point out my racist remark and I will apologize to you. Fair enough?
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My accusation, how cute........
  
  Godwin: The troll agrees with you, in case you can't tell the difference.
  
  Hint: wears a nun habit and a hockey mask.
  
  Godwin: All religious groups are cults.
  
  Sounds racist too me, and definitely profiling, and if you wish to have me banned, go for it, there are plenty of personal 'troll' attacks by you as counter for the HP staff. . .
  
  . . . those would be personal 'troll' attacks against those who disagree with you -- folks like me who respond to your personal troll attacks in defense of what you denigrate.
  
  Clear enough for you? Reasonable enough for you?
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If the troll wishes to report me he will do so. Okay, have it your way. You either do not know what a racist remark is or you are too stubborn to admit it. Profiling? You haven't a clue!
  
  I am done with you!
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  .... good to hear.
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  Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  " Calling me a racist is a personal attack."
  
  And personal attacks are something you would never engage in, right?
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  For the record, Sab Oh is referring to Randy Godwin's comment, rather than mine.
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  HP is funny Being called a racist is a personal attack but being called a "scrotum sucking (Teabagger) wingnut is not.
  
  LOL
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  alternate poetposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It would have to be untrue to be a personal attack - and Ron is not racist.
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So every time someone is called a teabagger It must be TRUE!
  
  Ahhh the hypocrisy!
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  alternate poetposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not hypocrisy - the words we use define what we are, if we do not talk like a racist then we define our position, if people talk like a teabagger the we have to assume they are ?
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What does a teabagger sound like? I mean with their mouth full and all.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Where did you get your information on this, Arthur? I would like to see the list. Or is this just an assumption on your part?
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  Randy I was not directing the comment to you personally. The both of us have engaged in quiet respectful conversations together.
  
  It is an observation. I do not know if someone being called a racist in the forums constitutes a personal attack.
  
  I do know however that "you teabagger" is allowed and even seems to be encouraged in the forums.
  
  How one would be a personal attack and the other not baffles me.
  
  I think it has to do with a political bias on the moderators part.
  
  Oh well nothing new.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I do not think it is political bias by the moderators, Arthur. A "teabagger" is not necessarily a bad thing if associated to the political group. Depends on your viewpoint. But being called a racist is insulting, especially when there is no evidence for the charge.
  
  I agree with you about discussing subjects in a proper manner.
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  Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "A "teabagger" is not necessarily a bad thing if associated to the political group"
  
  Of course it is an insult, as that is NOT the name of the political group but rather a childish and offensive play on the name of the group intended to insult.
  
  Of course a person may or may not actually be a member of the political movement in question just as a person may or may not actually be a racist or anything else completely unrelated.
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  LegendaryHeroposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We interrupt this broadcast to tell you that his profile picture is No-Face from the Hayao Miyazaki movie, Spirited Away.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirited_Away
  
  We now return to our regularly scheduled broadcast...
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Spirited away? One can only hope!
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  Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Isn't that nice of you...
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Sab Ohposted 13 years ago
Wow, silly names and references to Hitler. How sophisticated!

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habeeposted 13 years ago
This is the thread that never ends;
It just goes on and on, my friends!
Some hubbers...started posting it,
Not knowing what it was,
Now we'll continue posting here forever
Just becuz!

2nd verse, same as the first!

Carry on - I'm heading out to the club with my gal pal!
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Fox News might headline it soon. LOL
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nice poetry, but not terribly distracting from the issues being discussed -- and the word 'discussed' is used with definite limitations, considering the nature of the posts.
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saraallen25posted 13 years ago
Fox news is strictly a Republican show and they all think they have every single thing right that they broadcast that has to do with news. They don't look at everyones point of view. And as far as that show they have on late night at like three in the morning, that show is so for entertainment its not even funny. I think that is all that news station really is for strictly for the entertainment part of the news.
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So, you really really like Bill Maher? Amusing.
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The only news show I believe is bipartisan is Frontline on PBS. Although it is not a regular news show they tell both sides of a story.
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  JON EWALLposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  saraallen25
  CHECK THIS OUT
  I doubt that you didn't see or hear from the major news medias
  
  What I have seen on Beck's show is that he will state that if he reports something in error ,he will make an immediate correction.
  The white house some time ago said that he was making erroneous statements about president Barack Obama and the administration. Many times he will comment that the red phone (telephone # )know only to the president has not rang as yet.
  
  Glen Beck show is reporting explosive information that the main street press and media refuses to report to the public.
  Silence by ABC, NBC CBS, CNN, MSNBC and others is typical of how they refuse to report any of the negatives of the Obama administration and the inner workings of Washington,
  For example I wrote regarding finance reform and cap and trade
  I caught Glen Beck on Fox News, he was exposing the questionable
  relationships of Goldman Sachs( campaign funding to Barak
  Obama and some Dem's $33 MILLION ),the unions ( SEIU
  and the AFLCIO ),Frank Raines (took $90 million out of Fannie
  Mae ),Joel Rodgers (the apollo alliance group, they wrote the
  Healthcare Reform bill for congress ),Al Gore ( investments in
  the Chicago Climate Exchange),Joyce foundation (connections
  with Barak Obama and Valerie Jarrett) and president Barack Obama.
  GLEN BECK USED OLD ACTUAL NEWS CLIPS TO
  SUPPORT THE ACCUSATIONS
  There are many reasons as to why certain groups or people would like to silence Glen Beck. Speak out and seek the truth from the government before we end up like Europe.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
I doubt Randy is a paid troll...I have my suspicions about others though.

And I'm pretty sure Lita is not still posting on this site.
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe Randy's not, but Randy loves the word troll and throws it out at others who disagree with him readily. Perhaps it is time for a new modern dictionary definition of the word 'troll', perhaps it is in the works even now. Love how the English language has evolved over the centuries -- as well as the skew on history in our books and encyclopedias.
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habeeposted 13 years ago
Gee, I leave you guys unattended for a few hours and look what happens! You sound like boys on a playground. What is it with men? Can't all of you debate without getting angry and using personal attacks? Is it a man vs man thing? Randy, you and I debate all the time without either of us acting like this. And how did religion get thrown into this conversation, anyway?

Tsk, tsk - I'm gonna have to get my switch!

PEACE out! And don't make me come back here! lol
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habeeposted 13 years ago
Just wondering...can a heterosexual female be a "teabagger"?
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p … ale+teabag
  
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
"Jay Nordlinger at National Review admits, the term "teabagger" was introduced to the political lexicon by Tea Party movement leaders:

The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was “Tea Bag the Fools in D.C.” A protester was spotted with a sign saying, “Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology.

Tommy Christopher at Mediaite has it about right:

The Tea Partiers not only invented the term, they did so in order to inflict a similar double entendre onto the President, the Democrats, and liberals in general.

Now, they’re trying to re-cast the term as a slur, on a par with the “n-word,” hurtful to all the Tea Party members who are just ordinary moms, dads, sons, and daughters. The latter point has some resonance, but the former is ridiculous in the extreme.

In emails, protest signs, t-shirts, and online, early Tea Party literature urged protesters to “Tea Bag the White House,” and to “Tea-bag the liberal Dems before they tea-bag you.” The suggestion is that the metaphoric “tea-bags” be shoved in the mouths of the President, Democratic members of Congress, and even ordinary citizens who identify as liberal Democrats. The idea that they just didn’t know the term’s only (at that time) meaning is belied by the fact that they obviously knew it was negative (and non-consensual), since they didn’t want it done to them, and also because it only had one meaning.

It was only after MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and David Shuster, and CNN’s Anderson Cooper, turned the tables on the term that Tea Partiers objected. They were perfectly satisfied to advocate the metaphoric mouth-rape of liberal men, women, and children, but had the nerve to become indignant when the insult boomeranged on them."

Enough with the whining! 'Teabaggers' actually introduced the term they now claim is a slur
By David Neiwert Thursday May 06, 2010 8:00am
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habeeposted 13 years ago
Well, maybe it's like the "n" word. It's okay when blacks use it with each other, but it's racist when someone else uses it. ??
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  One big difference is that the "tea bag" term was introduced to political discourse by the very people who are now stuck with it. Not so with the "n" word.
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That might be true I am not a member of the Tea party.
  
  My point with "teabagger" is in these forums.
  
  When you have someone calling people "You Teabaggers" in the forums knowing full well the person does not represent the Tea Party. That is a personal attack or there is no definition of a personal attack.
  
  The difference between a "teabagger" and a "c#^ksucker" would be inches. Yet I bet I would pull a ban for the latter in a New York second.
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sure, but it's simply a matter of cultural standards. Anderson Cooper can say "teabagger" on the air but not "c#^ksucker."
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Then I guess it is fine in the forums? Ahh well, probably why I spend less and less time here.
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  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's baloney. You could say the same about people calling others "socialists" . They mean THAT as "anti-American out to destroy America" c*cksucker too!
  Do you listen to Limbaugh? Ever hear how HE talks about the president, and "liberals"?
  He's 50 times more offensive than Howard Stern, and he gets a pass.
  
  Those tea-baggers chose the name as a way to put it to the Dems. "Shove this in your mouth you liberal swine".
  
  They wanted it, they got it.
  
  BTW, did it bother you that Cattle called someone unAmerican? Isn't that worse than tea-bagger?
  
  We put up with that for 10 years, you know....un-American, anti-American, traitor. And they can't take being called a name THEY themselves made up.
  
  Oh boohoo...cry me a river.
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  Socialist is not a derogatory word. That would be the same as calling someone a capitalist.
  
  UnAmerican is not a vulgar term either.
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I just asked my conservative, Republican fiance' which is more offensive to him: being called a "teabagger" or being called "unAmerican." Without hesitation, he chose "unAmerican."
  
  On these forums, I've been called a socialist, and been told that I hate America and that I want to destroy America. Are these people "cads"?
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  A "cad" would say something along these lines. {Example} "You are a socialist whore." {Example}
  
  What you are describing is someone who is unable to intelligently respond to your post.
  
  BTW: I am sorry if others have offended you in the forums. I hope it was never me.
  
  As to your BF IMO If someone were in a face to face conversation with me and called me unAmerican I would end the conversation.
  
  If someone called me a "teabagger" to my face I would end his ability to continue speaking.
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  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You always play fair, Arthur. No need to apologize for others.
  
  In person, I've been called a traitor and unAmerican for opposing the Iraq War. I was also called a terrorist-lover (for opposing warrantless wiretapping) by a person who now belongs to the Tea Party. Oddly, I've never been called a traitor for disagreeing with President Obama and I still oppose warrantless wiretapping and both wars.
  
  Some of us liberals just find it amusing that some conservatives are now whining about name calling after what we endured during the Bush presidency.
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  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Pretty well said.
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Cagsilposted 13 years ago
Well, what do you expect Habee? America represents the highest level of double standard to exist.....so why not. LOL!
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habeeposted 13 years ago
Too true, Cags!
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  How would you know, you crackerhead?
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  habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What the heck is a crackerhead?? Should I report you for insulting me with a personal attack? Was it a personal attack?
  Was it an insult? Do you like crackers? What's your favorite type of cracker? Mine is Triscuit. Do you like Triscuits? What's your favorite flavor? Why didn't you come get in the pool today? It was great - not a cloud in the sky! What did you get Beth for Mother's Day? What did you get your mom? What did you get Allie? How is Allie? Are you growing any Early girls this year? When will green peanuts be ready? I want some to boil. Do you still love me? You never tell me anymore...all I get is "crackerhead."
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  A simple term of affection, nothing more! Cheese Bits! Had to watch the TPC! Got Beth nothing, she's not my mother! Got my mom some good smellin' women bath stuff! Ally's my dog, she's not my mother either! Ally's doing better! Of course, I always grow Early Girl tomatoes! Green peanuts in September! I love all women, preferably two at a time! Going to sleep now! Nite, from one crackerhead to another!
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  habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Two at a time?? One to "play" with, while the other makes you a sandwich??
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What else!
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Cagsilposted 13 years ago

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paarsurreyposted 13 years ago
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Exactly right. The same way as disagreeing with Bush was tantamount to aiding and abetting the enemy, and now disagreeing with Obama is somehow patriotic.

It's SUCH a load of bull, it's hard to walk around in America anymore.

All of a sudden, it's a good thing to have no respect for the president, or his wife or his kids.

And we're supposed to applaud their tea-bagger/party/group/protests while others were maligned for speaking out.

They really think they are special don't they? And then call other people "elites"...which is also used as an insult. Cause you know, none of those tea-people like Palin or Bachman of Armey are rich or anything................
And all of them served in the military....................
And all of them know better than any g d liberal (said while holding nose in contempt).

They have contempt for us yet want total sheepish adherance to their right to be heard.
They want what they never give in return!
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Excuse me, but they wear hats with tea bags hanging from them.........that is a tea-bagger!

If you can't separate the derogatory from the obvious that's your problem.

No one tells Limbutt/Beckles. et al how to catagorize the president....and it's NEVER pretty.
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you see someone with teabags hanging from their hat feel free to call them "teabagger".
  
  I do not think I have seen you call a fellow hubber a slur in that way. Am I correct?
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
No, just the nationally famous ones....but I don't see it as a slur! It's a name they gave themselves for crying out loud!

It was named after the Boston Tea-Party...Tea-Baggers...no slur.
Unless, as that article stated, they DID name it intentionally as a slur, but they meant it as a slur against democrats. In which case they deserve what they get.
Either way, it is their doing, so they can't play dumb now.
Either it was a noble idea taken from history,or
it was an insult to liberals that just got turned on them....thats poetic justice.

It's much worse to call someone un-American,America-Hater, traitor, aiding and abetting the enemy.

All of which were thrown around freely...by the same people who now demand respect, I would bet.
Here's what I'd be willing to do...anyone who supports Palin, Gingrich,Hannity and Armey I'll refer to as Tea-Baggers...anyone who shows respect to others will get respect back, and be called the Tea-Partiers.

But Call President Obama a muslim, socialist, marxist, terrorist...all those things he has denied, and them's fighting words!
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  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  That is my point although opinionated (nothing wrong with that) you are respectful to your fellow hubbers.
  
  Even the ones that make rude comments to you do not get a response in the same manner from you.
  
  Is it alright if I say That obama is a liberal compared to Clinton and Carter?
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lovemychrisposted 13 years ago
Well that was nice of you to say....I did think I have had words with one or two....but I'll believe you!

Anyway, it breaks my heart that Obama was so beaten up before he had a chance to do anything.

I'm still in shock at the complete lack of decency from the Right.

It's one thing to suffer it when they are in charge, but to still have to put up with it even when they've been defeated....it's giving me PTSD!!!
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