My nephew was murdered in the Philippines yesterday

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   Jeff Berndtposted 13 years ago

   Izzy, so sorry to hear of your loss. Thoughts and prayers to you and your family.

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   IzzyMposted 13 years ago

   Thanks Clinton and Sufi!
   Actually the Daily Record is the only paper so far to disbelieve the original story, well maybe also the BBC who threw some doubt on the version we got told, but in the main I tend to agree with its best uses like you said.

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   prettydarkhorseposted 13 years ago

   Good day Izzy! I haven't found in the local news online about new developments. I hope things will be cleared up sooner. I will keep on looking online for local newspapers.

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   Karen Nposted 13 years ago

   Oh Izzy,
   I'm so sorry for your loss.  My thoughts are with you and your family.

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   mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years ago

   I am really sorry for your loss Izzy. I had seen the story on the news pages, but somehow it seems so more real and more shocking when you find out you actually know a relation of the person murdered. I sincerely hope the truth comes out so his family can grieve in peace.

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   Aya Katzposted 13 years ago

   Izzy, I am so sorry about what happened to your nephew.

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   Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago

   That's awful!  I'm sorry too Izzy.

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   IzzyMposted 13 years ago

   Thanks everybody Nothing to do but wait now till the police wrap the case up, I suppose.

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   Spacey Graceyposted 13 years ago

   Bit late to post now I guess, but wanted to let you know that I am thinking of you. Sad that many reporters don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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    mythbusterposted 13 years ago

    I saw this thread yesterday and didn't know what to say, IzzyM. I certainly have no words to convey how awful this situation has been - no words of comfort for such a loss. I checked in on this thread today and am still at a loss for anything appropriate to say, so...
    
    *hugs*

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    Thanks for the supportive comments on this thread I've read and taken comfort from every single one of them, so thanks. Spent the day writing hubs to take my mind off things...

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    Money Glitchposted 13 years ago

    OMG, I was playing catch up in the forums and ran across this posting. Words are never good enough at times like this, however, I am soooo sorry Izzy for your tragic loss.   I hope you can feel the hubbers love and concern for you at this time.

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    habeeposted 13 years ago

    Oh, Izzy - what a tragic loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

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    Lily Roseposted 13 years ago

    I don't know how I missed this thread - I'm so sorry for your loss, Izzy!

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    Jane@CMposted 13 years ago

    Izzy, I just saw this.  I'm so sorry - email me if you need a shoulder.  ((((hugs))))

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    Thank you so much for your support and best wishes. I have finally managed to contact his mother and it is she who is in need of support, but I pass on all your messages which no doubt she will draw some comfort from; to know that there are people who care is so important at this sad time.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago

    I pray her heart will be comforted, that she will heal in time.  Losing a child has to be one of the hardest things a parent ever goes through.

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    Thanks Brenda, but I think that it's a heartache you learn to live with. My parents lost when my brother when he was only 18, and they have never fully recovered. They have learned to live with the pain. A child should never die before its parents. The order of things are wrong.

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       Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I know.  But it happens.  My parents lost children (several of my brothers and sisters).   Like you said, people learn to live with it but it never fully heals...

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    jenniferangsposted 13 years ago

    Thank you so much for your support and best wishes.

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    raisingmeposted 13 years ago

    I am holding you and your family and all who loved your nephew in my thoughts and in my heart.  Having come too close to losing a child myself, my heart is particularly with his mother right now...there is no pain that even comes close to losing a child. 
    
    Much love to you Izzy.

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    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    You, and the direct relatives, have my full condolences, traveling around the world can be a whole lot of fun, but it can be dangerous as well.  At least he lived his life to the fullest.

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    Simone Nposted 13 years ago

    IzzyM, I am so sorry and I will pray for you and your family and nephew.

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    Daniel Carterposted 13 years ago

    Just fount this thread.
    
    Izzy, please give love and best wishes to your nephew's family and friends, and know too, and I keep you in my thoughts, hoping you and your family find resolve and peace in all this.

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    liljen23posted 13 years ago

    Izzy, I am so sorry to hear this and for your loss. My condolences go out to you and your family. This is sad that happened to him.. I will keep you in my prayers.. I read the article and it just seems like they are lies and it seems like it was put together. It doesn't seem right, I feel you and the family should sue them for what they have done to nephew and just speculating.

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    Many thanks for all the messages
    I reckon what happened was that he just met them, or one of them and they befriended him. They all went out together and at the end of the night they asked him back for a nightcap, or perhaps to stay the night seeing he was 20 miles from base. They waited until he was sleeping and tried to rob him, but he woke up and fought back. Then the guy got the knife from the kitchen and stabbed him, and the girl tried to stop him (maybe she was sleeping too and wasn't in on the planned robbery), so she got injured but they must have only been superficial wounds if they were letting her out today. Meanwhile the b/f is off with the wallet. Whether it was her or the police who made up this story about bride on the internet would be interesting to know. If it was her, then she was in on it and used that as an excuse to wiggle out. But it could be as Steve said, the police lie to protect tourism.
    Oh and apparently his body is coming home in about 10 days. Without them having caught the perpetrator?

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       Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       It makes sense Izzy.  Any chance that you'll get a copy of the police report?

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    china manposted 13 years ago

    Sorry to hear about your family's loss Izzy.  I guess something of the truth will come out if the girl recovers ?

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    Yeah thanks
    
    Its not up to me to ask for a police report; that'll need to come from his mother as next of kin.
    But I wonder why they are releasing the body so quickly. In the Uk, a murder victim is kept for ages to allow the defence lawyers time to ask for a second or even third post mortem to try and get their client off.
    Sadly another nephew (through marriage) was murdered a few years ago (when he was only 18) and the authorities wouldn't release his body for about 2/3 months as I remember.
    Then there is usually delays when someone dies abroad too through waiting for someone to translate the death certificate into English. My brother (John's father) died abroad too (natural causes) and it took about a month to get his body back with red tape and language translations.

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    lambservantposted 13 years ago

    I am so sorry for your loss Izzy. I pray justice will be served. And I will have you and your family in my prayers.

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    Well it took 15 months, but finally the police have caught the guy they suspect of murdering my nephew.
    
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott … -23637976/
    
    I wish the papers hadn't gotten hold of such an awful photo of my nephew all the same. he looks mad in that picture! I'm sure they have others they could have used.
    
    Edit - the picture isn't in this link. It was on their main page.

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       lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Ok I wasn't back here 15 months ago. Sorry for the loss and I hope all is well by now.
       Glad, that the person is finally caught

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    tlpoagueposted 12 years ago

    I am sorry for your loss, but am glad to hear that they finally caught the guy.

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    habeeposted 12 years ago

    Oh, Izzy, I am so sorry. You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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    Pcunixposted 12 years ago

    So very sorry.  So hard to be so far away.

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    chuckblposted 12 years ago

    There is nothing worse than a young life being lost like that. Except perhaps when the papers and authorities lie about what actually happened. I hope everything gets sorted for you and your family and that you are allowed to put this one to rest and remember your nephew fondly.

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    Hey thanks guys. I don't know how quick their system over in the Philippines for getting someone to trial, but at least he is finally in custody.
    
    Sorry also that the Philippines suffered devastating floods today where 100s of people lost their lives.
    
    I am also sorry that my sister-in-law had to pay about $5,000 to get the Filipino police force to do their job!
    
    Did you read that newspaper story?
    
    I didn't actually know anything about this until I read it. I'm not estranged from my sister-in-law, we just don't keep in touch like we should.
    
    My brother, the boy's father, died a few years ago.
    
    No doubt the court case will be another nightmare for the family as this man and his lawyer are sure to come out with a load of crap, but it is the first step towards closure, and for that I am thankful, especially for the boy's mother.

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    Lady_Eposted 12 years ago

    Sorry to read the News Izzy - My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family...  Take Care, Elena.

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    Thanks, Lady E and Hypenbird. The murder took place over a year ago, but only now have they caught the guy who allegedly did it.

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    LeanManposted 12 years ago

    Hi Izzy, I am so glad to hear your news. Hopefully justice will be done, I doubt if this guy will be able to afford a "sleazy" lawyer to help him so I hope that the case will be straightforward.

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Are you not in the Philippines, LeanMan? Everything OK weather-wise where you are?
       
       You will probably hear the outcome of the court case before me! Email me if you hear anything

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          lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Hey Izzy, Lean Man is in the Phillipines at present at least that's what I heard him say a while back

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          LeanManposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Izzy, I will do.. I tend to read the news here and have the TV on in the background (even if I still don't understand the language!)
          
          Where I am tends to avoid the worst of the really bad weather so I am quite lucky and also I don't live in one of the many shanty towns that are thrown up all over the place without any thought to what will happen if something like these floods occurs.
          The people that died generally were in rough built homes built along rivers that suddenly had to handle several inches of rain falling across a wide area so flooded significantly!
          The Philippines has a huge number of people living in EXTREME poverty and I really do feel for them. Many really have no choice as to where they can live and how!
          
          During this last storm my fish ponds overflowed so there must have been around 5 inches of rain overnight around my home!! Have spent the last few months perfecting the drainage around the front of my home as I tend to have a small stream running across the front of my property when it rains heavily.

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             IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             You installed land drains to divert the water, well done!
             
             Anyway I appreciate your reply and would be grateful if you would listen out for news. You have the names from the link I posted above

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    rmcrayneposted 12 years ago

    Izzy, did I understand correctly that they named the right suspect from the beginning, but it took 15 months to catch him?!  And the family had to pay for the police work to apprehend the suspect.  Crazy.  I’m so sorry for this loss, and these horrible circumstances.  It’s the kind of thing that you can never make sense of.  I guess eventually you find that you no longer think about it all day, every day, or gain some ability to stop the most horrible emotions from invading your thoughts when you need to function.

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       That is exactly right, Rosemary.
       
       It seems ridiculous to me in such a small place as the Philippines that someone could 'disappear' for all that time, and the only way he could 'reappear' was with the help of a lot of Western money.
       
       That whole situation stinks.

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          rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I hear ya.  I lived in Turkey for 3 1/2 years.  I could tell some tales.  Poverty and corruption seem to go hand in hand sometimes.

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             IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Not just sometimes! I live in Spain, remember.
             
             For the first time in my life, I have had to report a bank teller for dishonesty to her bosses.
             
             Bank tellers should be totally trustworthy.
             
             This bitch has now ripped me off THREE times, and that was twice too many.

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