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Name Calling

  1. rachellrobinson profile image83
    rachellrobinsonposted 6 years ago

    Just for once I would like to see a Political Discussion without name calling, on either side. I see an otherwise adult post that they feel strongly about... Immigration... The Health Care Bill... pick your topic, and yet we can't discuss the pro's and con's without resorting to calling people names, why is that?

    1. Shadesbreath profile image88
      Shadesbreathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Because politics and religion both center on issues that have roots into the emotional core of people.

      When you couple that with the fact that most people don't understand what a genuine argument/debate is in terms of respect and self control (ESPECIALLY on an Internet forum where they are anonymous and can be rude and sophistical with relative impunity)... well, you get what we get.

      1. FLYSCO profile image82
        FLYSCOposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Maybe we could limit the allowed vocabulary in political discussions, to around 100 words. That would be enough to sum up most political positions wink

        1. Shadesbreath profile image88
          Shadesbreathposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah, but people can still pack a lot of insults into 100 words if they want.

          1. rachellrobinson profile image83
            rachellrobinsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I agree, I read really short comments on here that are nothing more then name calling and I wonder why we can't have an adult conversation. Even if you don't know the proper way's to debate, (like me I have no idea how to debate properly according to the forensics of debating), but I can say that I agree or disagree with a policy without  calling the opposing side names.

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            ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            No they can't you stupid douche bag. What kind of IDIOTIC moron thinks that cool people like me, that is not you, can insult somebody is less than 100 words? You must be a four-eyed ginger midget or something.**












            ** Hubpages moderators should be aware, when considering a banning, that this post was intended to be non-personal and light hearted.

            1. Shadesbreath profile image88
              Shadesbreathposted 6 years ago in reply to this



              I know you are but what am I?

              tongue

            2. wilderness profile image94
              wildernessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Ryan, you had 60 words unused - just think what invective you could come up with that many more words!  lol

    2. dutchman1951 profile image61
      dutchman1951posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      because it is personal to people, we are passionate about our causes, and thus it escalates up. Its our Nature, we can not help it.

      We all do it, it is not that any of us are bad folks, we are just protective of what is ours. Our view, opinion.

      they say Politics "is" a contact sport!  I guess it is true.

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image68
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Amen, Rachel, especially name calling of fellow Hubbers. Political figures are fair game, as in "Christine O'Donnell is a winner in the dumber than Michell Bachman IQ contest."

      1. Jim Hunter profile image60
        Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        "Michell Bachman"

        Uhhuh

        1. KFlippin profile image59
          KFlippinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Wow, that Deeds' comment you respond to really shows how worried some are about O'Donnell......... the comparison to Bachman is really telling, and good to hear.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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            1. KFlippin profile image59
              KFlippinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              smile

    4. Jeremey profile image61
      Jeremeyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I would guess because there isn't  face to face involvment on these posts. I've been on hubpages for two days now and have one hubber that has called me at least a dozen different names. I had a rational response to each one although I did backlash a bit. I guess its easy to let your emotions get in the way and ooze out of your fingers onto the keyboard when a nerve has been touched. The hubber who named called me seems like a rather intelligent person, but even intelligence can't prevent defense mechanisms such as name calling when you're emotions aren't held in check.

      1. rachellrobinson profile image83
        rachellrobinsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Well hopefully other than some name calling you are being treated with a warm welcome.

  2. katiem2 profile image60
    katiem2posted 6 years ago

    I would love to hear someone come out and say, I have nothing bad to say about the other canidates you are obviously smart enough to make your own determination as I'm sure you will with me..

    and then they get on about the business of telling us what they really hope to do...

    1. rachellrobinson profile image83
      rachellrobinsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yes that would be so nice. I had a thought that it should be a requirement to be honest. If you listen to the adds, and this is on both sides, when they say that the opposing Candidate did something they should have to back up with fact, and if they can't then they should be fined for lying. Wouldn't that be refreshing from our Political candidates.

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    ralwusposted 6 years ago

    You mean I shouldn't call someone a political pop-sucker anymore?

    1. rachellrobinson profile image83
      rachellrobinsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I just think I can't be the only one when I go onto a forum or anywhere to read a topic that is tired of the response being a dirty word or name calling. I would just like once to see more like the first four responses, all of those where intelligent without name calling, wouldn't that be refreshing if you saw, "I disagree with you because of..." and then a real reason, not "I disagree with you because you are a liberatard or a teabagger..." That's not a reason, that's just a way to make someone feel bad.

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        ralwusposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Well, we can only complain as they aren't going to change. I enjoy it though at times. It can be quite funny, like the time Deeds called a certain person as butt-sniffing troll. LOL He was banned, hahaha

      2. Joe Badtoe profile image61
        Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        People have passionate views and sometimes this spills into insults because neither person can get through the dispute. That's just the way it is on forums. Unless there's blatant obscene and personal attacks or abject racism then I don't see the problem with insults. I'd even say a smart insult with a dose of sarcasm shows a level of intelligence.

        I say that as a man to be avoided at all costs.

  4. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    ralwus,

    Drop by the "Ladies on hub : What men must never ask you?" forum. You will have a field day. See if you can top me. smile

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      ralwusposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      will do. sounds like fun. thanks

  5. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    A smart insult with a dose of sarcasm is, IMHO, the high point of the political/religion forum experience!

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      ralwusposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      yeah, we need a smiley that looks like Don Rickles or Paul Lynde for sarcasm. Some people just don't get it.

    2. Joe Badtoe profile image61
      Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      and may I say Mighty Mom you are one of the more talented exponents of such an art! I mean this as a compliment of course!

  6. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    I LOVE it! It would take a little extra work, but instead of smilies, we could insert pics of the appropriate comedian at the end of our posts. This could include pics of Oscar Wilde, Mark Twain, etc.

    Boy, would that ever separate the elitists from the juveniles in big fat hurry *imaginary pic of Rosie O'Donnell*

  7. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    http://www.sassistas.com/sassistas_our_dish_on_the/images/2008/Mae_West.jpg

    Why thank you, Mr. Badtoe. I truly enjoy playing with the big boys!

  8. rachellrobinson profile image83
    rachellrobinsonposted 6 years ago

    As far as I am concerned Name calling shows the level of maturity and intelligence of the person making the argument.

    1. Joe Badtoe profile image61
      Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      That's your opinion and that's fine.

      I prefer to be more imaginative with my responses!

      Except on this occasion as you appear to be quite a serious person.

    2. Pcunix profile image90
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, I dunno.  Misha regularly refers to me as "pclown".  It doesn't bother me any and I actually think it is funny.

    3. waynet profile image47
      waynetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Your taking liberties.....! big_smile

      1. rachellrobinson profile image83
        rachellrobinsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        liberties? Because I would like a discussion that doesn't resort to name calling?

        1. waynet profile image47
          waynetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Lol!!! it was a joke with your avatar being the statue of liberty, I think the Joker said "Why so Serious? big_smile

          1. rachellrobinson profile image83
            rachellrobinsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry you had me there, I get it now. I thought you mean that I was infringing on someone's liberties because I don't like name calling... I can be slow sometimes.

            1. waynet profile image47
              waynetposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              lol! sorry!

              I agree to your opening post though, why can't we all just get along...Jack Nicholsons Joker said that!

  9. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago

    http://learningexpressblog.typepad.com/.a/6a011571ec93fe970b0120a6ca1d1b970b-320pi

  10. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago

    But what if someone is stupid and doesn't know it?  Shouldn't they be told?

    1. Jerami profile image78
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Sure I'm ready.   give it to me.

    2. Pcunix profile image90
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Nobody ever knows.

      When someone is  less intelligent than you are, you can peg them quite accurately with just ordinary conversation.  When they are much smarter, you can't - you sense that they have intellectual power that you do not, but you can't place it on a scale as you can with someone less intelligent.

      Any attempt to estimate how advanced they are fails because you can't follow their thinking. Things that would let someone even more intelligent classify them are beyond your ability to understand., so you may not even realize that they are brighter.  Because you can't comprehend, you may even think they are less intelligent.

      So, we all think most everyone else is dumber than we are, about the same, or just a little bit smarter.  We are blissfully unaware of those who are much smarter.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image94
        Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Duh?

        1. KFlippin profile image59
          KFlippinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Duh Duh, and oh so amusing, and the post gives such insight into a . . . real human mind -- useful for fiction writing, hmmm..., I can see a character developed here who.........whatever.   smile

          1. Randy Godwin profile image94
            Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Duh huh!

  11. Jerami profile image78
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    Pcunix wrote:
    Nobody ever knows.

    When someone is  less intelligent than you are, you can peg them quite accurately with just ordinary conversation.  When they are much smarter, you can't - you sense that they have intellectual power that you do not, but you can't place it on a scale as you can with someone less intelligent.

    Any attempt to estimate how advanced they are fails because you can't follow their thinking. Things that would let someone even more intelligent classify them are beyond your ability to understand., so you may not even realize that they are brighter.  Because you can't comprehend, you may even think they are less intelligent.


    @  Pcunix
    So, we all think most everyone else is dumber than we are, about the same, or just a little bit smarter.  We are blissfully unaware of those who are much smarter. 
    ============================================



        That is the smartest think that I have ever seen written here on HP  since I have been here.


        And yet I recognize this statement from a different perspective than the one that posted it.    And you do too!!

       Pcunix    Many thumbs up !!!   Need to keep think on that one ???

  12. Jerami profile image78
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    I got dizzy thinking about that one,   
        I'm better now  thank you.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image94
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The "smartest think"?  Wow Jerami,  you are just used to my "dumbest thinks"!

      1. Jerami profile image78
        Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yea I did say I got dizzy.    and I did.  Thanks for afirming.

  13. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    It's ok to call yourself dizzy, but not very nice to use that term to describe others. Especially females. Especially blondes lol

    1. Ralph Deeds profile image68
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I thought the preferred term for blondes was "ditzy."

  14. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 6 years ago

    So, when referring to any politician it is not good to call them a "wanker"? if this is what y'all are saying I'm gonna have to rethink my entire political perspective!

    1. Ralph Deeds profile image68
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      According to the latest sex survey 84% of Americans are wankers. That makes the ones who aren't wankers deviants!

  15. CYBERSUPE profile image60
    CYBERSUPEposted 6 years ago

    What a sad state of affairs we are in.

 
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