Are we turning to Fabian Socialism?

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   Onusonusposted 13 years ago

   Stewart Chase, a prominent fabian socialist wrote a list in the 1930's. It seems to me that we are headed in that direction.
   
   1.Strong centralized government
   
   2.Growing executive arm
   
   3.Control of credit, banking and security exchanges by the government.
   
   4.Underwriting of employment by the government, either through armaments, or public works
   
   5.Underwriting of social security by the government, unemployment insurance and the like
   
   6.Underwriting of food housing and medical care
   
   7.Use of deficit spending
   
   8.The abandonment of gold
   
   9.Government control of foreign trade
   
   10.Government Control of transportation
   
   11.Control of natural resources
   
   12.Control of energy sources
   
   13.Control of agricultural production
   
   14.Enlistment of youth corps
   
   15.Heavy taxation and state control of communications.

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      dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I would say that is the plan eventualy, if we allow it to happen.

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         Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Once the power is taken out of the hands of the people the government will intrude in our lives in unfathomable ways.
         At my work I see protesters constantly wasting their time picketing us. It is a testament to the unmovable force of big government.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Picketing who or what?  (You said "picketing us")...

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               Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I work at a nuclear submarine base.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Okay.  Thanks.
                  Well, do you consider your job valid and useful and necessary?  I would say it is!
                  It's probably picketed by those who are against war etc. no matter what.   I wouldn't necessarily call your job a part of "big government" as in it needs to be downsized.   Maybe they should be picketing the tyrants in Washington instead of honest hardworking patriots like you.

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                     Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I think it is vital to our existence, I'm simply using it as an example to the fact that once the government gets too much strength, people can protest as much as they want, unless a civil war breaks out the voice of the people will be useless.

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                        Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        They might as well be shouting at a brick wall, even if their oppinion is contradictory to their freedoms.

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                           dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           very true

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                        sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        If a civil war broke out, the voice of the people would still be useless if you have weapons pointed at their heads.  Nice pic btw.

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                  sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Hold up!  You have a problem with people picketing at your nuclear arms base and believe they are wasting their time while you are touting about how government is the death of us but...
                  
                  You work for the government,
                  You control fire arms,
                  You have in your arsenal, nuclear weapons
                  The government's biggest expense is for the military
                  
                  And you are bitching about a fabian socialist society while preaching the gospel and the glory of your god and you have a problem with people protesting nuclear arms?

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                     Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I think that pretty much sums it up.

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                        sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Was that a threat?
                        
                        Edit, what I mean is, are you planning to use your position to attack America?

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                           Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           What?! No way! That's where I keep all of my stuff.

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                              Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              haha
                              Well, I think you were meaning that people will protest whatever, even if it means protesting against those who protect them!  Some people just want to protest, that's all.   It's called non-discriminatory activism just for the sake of activism.  Like the ACLU.  One minute they're upholding the "rights" of someone, and the next minute they're upholding the "rights" of someone with a totally opposite agenda.   Haven't people figured out that neutrality doesn't work?    Patriotism isn't neutral and "diverse".   We're either FOR protecting our Nation, or we're not.

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                                 Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 The ACLU tries to uphold the law, e.g. First Amendment, for everyone however unpopular the cause.

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                                    sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    I think she also believes that people are protesting the people who serve the country as opposed to protesting 'nuclear weapons'.  Huge difference but she wouldn't know that because she hasn't figured anything out yet.

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                                       Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       Maybe they should go to Iran and protest that government's nuclear agenda.
                                       Oh wait---they'd probably be arrested on sight, if not worse.

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                                          sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          Are you seriously that lost?  What the heck do you think the "evil UN" is doing?  What do you think the peace talks are for? 
                                          
                                          Your so...so...your so unequivocally blind I cannot understand why you even bother.  Where in the world do you get your information? 
                                          
                                          Unfortunately, people like you end up fueling the fire over there and you don't even know you do it. 
                                          
                                          You damn all the efforts that America and the UN make to make sure they don't have them, then you turn around and get all slap happy about calling all other not like you 'unamerican' for protesting ALL nuclear weapons. 
                                          
                                          "Throw some more Korans on the fire.  That'll teach um!"  So unequivocally ignorant.

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