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Obama - is to blame for my car not starting this morning....

  1. Joe Badtoe profile image61
    Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago

    Given the relentless tireless and ludicrously one sided attacks on Barack Obama from the right wing media and how he's responsible for everything that's wrong with the US (including plane crashes, typhoons, broken washing machines, stale bread and cold coffee)and especially the economy....

    A thought struck me.

    The Sub Prime Mortgage collapse and the whole robo signatures farce (where mortgage providers where signing blank forms in order to push loans through to people who clearly couldn't afford to take out such a mortgage)finally caved in during the fall of 2008.

    Obama was elected to office in November 2008. Now it seems the whole SubPrime debacle played a major part in hammering the economy. Banks, financial Profiteers and Mortgage suppliers were falling over themselves to sell the whole SubPrime market to anyone who believed the hype. It was a short term opportunity for a few shysters to make a lot of money at the expense of a lot of people.

    So how is it that Obama is getting the blame for things that happened before he took office? Did he personally cause the ruin of Fanny and Freddie? It couldn't have been his policies as he wasn't in government at the time of the collapse.

    So have I missed something or do people just hate the president for another reason?

    It would be good if the actual question I've posed could be answered without anyone referring to post Obama policies (where I accept he's failed on several fronts albeit with some deliberate obstacles put in his way).

    The way it looks to me is that somebody got shot before Obama was given the gun to hold.

    1. lady_love158 profile image61
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No that was Chris Dodd and Barney Frank two more liberal democrats!

      1. Joe Badtoe profile image61
        Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Not sure why you bothered responding I could've written your reply for you given the one dimension of everything you say.

        Thanks for reading anyway.

        1. lady_love158 profile image61
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Oh right and you are clearly more open minded and an independent thinker and of higher intellect! You muct be because you're a liberal and all liberals know better than anyone about everything! LOL ! The arrogance of the left!

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Don't forget well informed.

            He didn't even know Obama was a Senator.

            But that is understandable, he never did anything other than vote present most of the time.

            1. Joe Badtoe profile image61
              Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              and being one senator of many he is somehow totally responsible for the subprime collapse?

              Is that what you're saying?

              Boy your hatred of one man runs deep.

              1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Your inability to read a post is staggering.

          2. Joe Badtoe profile image61
            Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            ladynolove - sorry but you're just not very bright I can't help that.

            1. Jim Hunter profile image60
              Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              personal attacks don't improve your case or credibility.

              1. lovemychris profile image80
                lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Tell that to Lady Hate.

                1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                  Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  She didn't attack anyone personally.

                  Joe did, you just did.

                  1. lovemychris profile image80
                    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Oh yes she does. She tells me on a regular basis that I hate America. What do you call that? A compliment?

                    She demeans and denigrates any liberal. Calls us all liars and America haters. She is one not nice commentator, so you should not worry about her....if she can dish it out--she can take it!

          3. Joe Badtoe profile image61
            Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Deleted

            1. Jim Hunter profile image60
              Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              See above.

          4. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            At least they allow YOU the freedom to make your own choices regarding your life...Repub/baggers want to force their views on you!

      2. Jim Hunter profile image60
        Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        "It couldn't have been his policies as he wasn't in government at the time of the collapse."

        Yes he was, he was a Senator.

        He isn't responsible for the mortgage crisis and I don't think anybody said he was.

        Years and years of of liberal feel good policies are to blame for the mortgage crisis.

        Lenders didn't seek out people to loan money to, people came to them.

        Big government policies made sure they got the loan that they could never in a million years have received without the policies in effect.

        Then when a report came in about Fannie mae and Freddie mac the democrats blocked investigations into it saying there was no problem.

        Democrat rule #1 Lie and see what happens.

        1. Pcunix profile image90
          Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Actually, we were doing rather well until one of your heroes started a war.

          The mess wasn't really caused by the mortgages per se.  The mess was caused by greedy bankers packaging that junk up to sell to greedy and naive investors.   The need for more junk to package had a part in that, too and the ease of borrowing attracted investors who just made it all worse.

          The original idea was that if banks wanted to take the money of the poor, they ought to be willig to lend to them.  If that had been the end of it, there never would have been a mortgage crisis at all even if housing did fall as it did.   Greed caused all this.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Rule #1 in affect.

            We all know who is responsible for the mortgage crisis and it wasn't war or greed.

            Keep trying though, maybe in 2012 someone will buy it.

            *Edit* Maybe you're right, democrats greedy to buy votes with government handouts probably did more to cause this than anything else.

            1. Flightkeeper profile image78
              Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Of course they're right, as long as their roads get paved, they get health care, they get, they get, they get...they're loving the democrats cause they get other people to pay for it. Yippeee!

              1. PrettyPanther profile image84
                PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I worked in transportation for 15 years and the one guy who complained the most about potholes (even though I had nothing to do with pothole repair) is now a member of the Tea Party.  Go figure.

                1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                  Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  His taxes paid for fixing the potholes.

                  He has a right to bitch.

                  Those who don't...Won't

                2. Flightkeeper profile image78
                  Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Obviously he did figure it out.

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image84
                    PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    If you call retiring from government employment with a cadillac health care plan while simultaneously railing against government-paid health care "figuring it out."

                  2. Joe Badtoe profile image61
                    Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    The only figuring out you conservatives ever do is how to avoid answering the questions that are a bit difficult for you.

                    It would be so much easier if you people gave the real reason you can't cope with Obama.

                    But honesty isn't a conservative strong point.

        2. Ron Montgomery profile image61
          Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this



          Democrats own FoxNews now?

          Huh,  you'd think someone would have reported that.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Yep, its all the fault of FOXnews.

            Thats democrat rule #3

            1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
              Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              You mentioned lies, lies being synonymous with Fox...

              Of course that doesn't matter to the wing nuts, if Beckrushitty says it and Palin repeats it, it's as good as truth anyway.

              1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I forgot about Palin the female of the 3 commentators you mention.

                You realize not one of those people have ever created or signed legislation into law...right?

                They are just citizens exercising their right to free speech and you can't stand it.

                Except maybe Palin, I forgot about her former role as a Governor.

                My bad.

                1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  You have to be a legislator to tell lies now?  You live in a strange world Tex.

                  1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                    Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Not sure what you're talking about and don't care.

                    But commentators do not enact legislation and therefore do not have any responsibility for the legislation's outcome.

        3. lovemychris profile image80
          lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Gosh, those poor old Republicans who had all branches sowed up...those poor innocent repubs were canoodled by Frank and Dodd....gosh, not very smart are they?
          That's reason enough to keep those dummy's out.

          How can you trust such weak, stupid people in power?

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Isn't that the whine from the left now.

            Gosh, those poor old democrats who had all branches sowed up...those poor innocent dems.

            Sounds kinda silly doesn't it?

            1. lovemychris profile image80
              lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              No, because the dems didn't have the 60 votes to override the repubs.

              It was total domination and control.

              John Kasich: "We are in charge now, and you don't have any say."

              At least Obama tried...you can't get blood from a stone....or a repub with an agenda...block/obfuscate/deny/destroy...


              Mom would be proud. NOT.

        4. Ralph Deeds profile image68
          Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          De-regulation started with Reagan and continued through Bush I, Clinton and Bush II.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Obama was sending telepathic messages to them...even when he was a baby..."de-regulate" ..."de-regulate".

            That's how it happened.

            He also communicted with Hitler from the Cosmos...."Heil!"..."Heil!"

            Chapman?---you got it, Obama!

            Manson?--yup. Another Obama-telepathically controlled robot.

          2. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            And that changes the democrats running interference how?

            Never mind I wouldn't expect you to offer a reasonable explanation.

            "Its all the republicans fault"

            Put it to music, maybe it will go somewhere.

            1. Ralph Deeds profile image68
              Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              "Its all the republicans fault"

              Last I heard Clinton is a Democrat.

      3. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Ahahahah! Big Bad Barney and Chris just took over a whole Republican administration!!

        Dang! Not only are repubs chicken-hawks, they're awful wimpy!

  2. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...i just consider it part of the game of 'polythicks'....wouldn't want the job that's for sure...can't ever make everyone happy....

  3. Jim Hunter profile image60
    Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago
    1. William R. Wilson profile image61
      William R. Wilsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Didn't you attack me a few months ago for posting links to blogs as my sources?

      1. Jim Hunter profile image60
        Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I don't know.

        The video is whats important not whoever wrote the blogs commentary.

        Or didn't you understand that?

  4. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Alas, pretty much every president gets trashed. That’s apparently the media’s job. That’s apparently the opposing party’s job.

    In the long run, as with every other president, history will decide. smile

  5. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    Will you people keep the political and religious arguments out of this forum please?

    1. PrettyPanther profile image84
      PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Good point.  I did not even notice which forum category it was in.

      1. Jim Hunter profile image60
        Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Its not a good point at all.

        The rules say this can be here.

        1. PrettyPanther profile image84
          PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, technically it can be here and people who don't like these threads can just ignore it.  However, there is a better category for it to fit in.

          Either way, it's not a big deal and doesn't merit any more discussion as far as I'm concerned.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            "Yes, technically it can be here"

            Yeah roll

  6. Jim Hunter profile image60
    Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago

    The Hubbers hangout
    "Go off-topic and discuss whatever you like"

    Thats what it says.

  7. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    Well, maybe time for me to give the forum a pass again.

    1. rebekahELLE profile image91
      rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      it is kind of scary what people think.

      actually, Obama is the reason I locked myself out of my house this morning to take my dog for a walk. roll

      1. Jim Hunter profile image60
        Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        "it is kind of scary what people think."

        I concur.

        1. Joe Badtoe profile image61
          Joe Badtoeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          it's kinda funny what right wing conservatives think but more scary how many people they kill with such thoughts.

  8. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    Oh well, at least it will show those who stay out of the political forum the type of ridiculous arguments and tit for tat name calling that goes on.

    1. Jim Hunter profile image60
      Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you for your insight.

  9. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Gee. I have once again been duped into reading a thread based on its clever and promising title.
    "What fun," I thought to myself. "We can have an ongoing flow of silly, ridiculous rants of consequences and personal foibles that Mr.Obama could not possibly have caused."

    Well, I was right on the rant front, anyway.
    BTW there are some good lines in here big_smile.

    For the record, could someone (perhaps Jim Hunter) please outline all these numbered rules so that I can refer to them appropriately? Sorry, I don't have all the amendments to the Constitution memorized any more than I have every chapter and verse of the Bible memorized.
    But if we are working within some kind of "rules of engagement" structure I'd like to know what those rules are.
    Fair enough?
    MM
    P.S. Obama -- is to blame for my cat puking on the rug this morning. Gaak!

  10. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    Yeah, well--I had a corn on my foot in 92...that dam Obama!!!

    1. Dave Barnett profile image60
      Dave Barnettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah! And I had to file for unemployment this morning. Damn his hide...and George Bush too.

  11. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    crap....I was wondering why my windshield-wiper went on the blitz....OBAMA!

  12. rebekahELLE profile image91
    rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago

    Joe, it looks like you have the title for your next hub!

    sounds like a hot hub topic.

  13. Ralph Deeds profile image68
    Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago

    A musical spoof of President Obama--

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y54FRMedT_s&sns=fb

 
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