Gays are in the military as of present and served sinced time began. Although I am not gay but I'm for equality for everyone. There's no liability in letting gays and lesbian serve openly in the miltary. 35 other countries allow openly gays and lesbian serve in their militaries including Britian and Germany with no problems. All this does is prove to the rest of the industrialized and modern world that we allow discrimination.
I think the main problem is the difficulty of camouflaging pink.
Sorry, cheap throway remark, my speciality.
Apologies, but I can't delete it.
I have never heard a more valid reason.
It has more merit then the 'he might look at and fancy my winkie' argument
To be honest I found it funny as hell.
I personally cannot think of any reason to disallow homosexuals from serving. Far as I am concerned, anyone who feels patriotic and wants to defend their country should be allowed to do so, might mean we never need to instate a draft again. If they insist on wearing pink that could be a problem tho
Thanks again! My remark was intended to convey the sense of ridiculousness of the anti gay military lobby (like the Peter Sellers thing about not fighting in the war room) and also of course just be amusing. Then I thought maybe it could be construed as a typical homophobic comment and also a joke diversion from the serious topic of the thread.
Anyway. That has explained any vestige of humour out of it.
This is no different from the arguments (all based on BS) of allowing blacks to intergrate in the military after WW2.
Mind you... Alexander (who apparently liked boys more than his horse) had many 'gay' soldiers in his armies.
He reportedly found that strategically his troops were Not suited to frontal attacks!
As a result... well.. history shows that there are many benefits to the 'rogering' of your competitors doesn't it?
My issue is that there are many time that soldiers will have to shower in a large open room or walk around in almost nothing. I personally do not want gay men checking me out, it's a form of sexual harrassment!
And if your comback is to say that a people do have self control or gay people will not look at you that way. Then I would like to get a bill passed that would allow me to take showers with my sexual preference and have the women and men shower together! Same difference! If a man is attracted to men he should not be aloud to shower with them, why does it make sense to have the women and men seperated but not gays and straights?
Secondly the HIV in gay males is much higher, I believe over 40%! The military having openly gay people means gay sex will happen more and they only test for HIV once a year at best! If there are two men lying on the ground in a combat situation with identical wounds there is a good chance I will be playing percentages becasue one is openly gay. Sad but true.
Are you worried that you may have latent gay tendencies which might be pushed over the edge in the shower?
Gay men don't care about you... are you that devastatingly beautiful that you think all gay men are attracted to you?
I'm quite sure all medics wear latex gloves as a rule these days.
Just like everyone is making jokes here, we do so in the military as well, of course most of us don't take it offensively so now on top of having to deal with the war, cutbacks, deployments, and everything else we have to deal with having to overhaul our military system, many people are saying, what's the big deal? Punish them if they don't obey? easy to say when looking from the outside but those of us already in will have to deal the political BS and baggage that comes with it.
They will also recruit or influence others to be gay, so it will be more fun! The military is more cohesive then! Others will be more accepting and they will realize that gays can also serve like them.
A little prob may arise specially for others who are not accepting at all, simple things like use of bathroom prob may occur, irritations
...i don't get it...being a hetro woman...if a man was standing in front of me nude...it doesn't mean i'm going to be turned on....ha ha ha
...and as for you guys in the shower room gay or not....some of ya might just take a peak?????....nothing to do with being turned on but coppin' a peak just cuz!...ha ha ha....that darn penis!....it gets in the way doesn't it......
I have no problem with gays in the military, but why is it a good idea to introduce civilian laws into an organization that has its own code of military justice?
When you join the military you give up your rights and agree to live by their laws, you cant just get up and leave and go on vacation or other things that you can do as a civilian.
Having said that, if the soldiers,seaman,airman and the Marines currently serving are ok with it then so am I.
Did anyone ask them?
Well today President Obama signed the bill that repeals DADT which makes this a dead topic. Thanks for all your responses.
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