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I'd hate to be a woman

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    luabuposted 5 years ago

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    I really would hate to  be a woman..
    Here's the thing..........
    No woman president yet....religious ridicule.........no power..
    Men making a complete mess of things and coming up with different forms of bull every day and all you do is follow.
    It's a man's world and you lot are second class citizens
    50% of humanity are silent voters.
    What kind of a democracy is that.
    We need a civil war and I volunteer to be a spy for your side.
    Help me help you!

    1. jacobkuttyta profile image46
      jacobkuttytaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I am with you

      Go ahead

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        how do you think we are getting on?

    2. Anath profile image71
      Anathposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      For someone who defends women’s rights it seems like you haven’t done your homework.
      There have been several female presidents in history.  Just to mention a few:

      Ms McAleese, Ireland's second female president (first elected president in 1997 and won a second term, without a contest, in 2004).

      Dilma Vana Rousseff, current President-elect of Brazil.

      Laura Chinchilla Miranda, the first female President of Costa Rica.

      Violeta Barrios Torres de Chamorro, former Nicaraguan president (elected 1990)

      For more female leaders (going back to the 1040s)  you can check http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presi … ogical.htm

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        mere anomolies
        anath try and follow a thread
        my personal favourites would be Elizabeth 1/Queen Maeve/Boadicea/etc
        makes you long for the Celts or even a Monarchy

        get real   lets talk percentages not anomolies

        it's a mans world and you lot are second class citizens and the trouble is that you believe it
        why are there not enough  public toiiets for women
        is it a conspiracy
        riddle me this one if you can

      2. Ralph Deeds profile image68
        Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Here are a few more women heads of state:
        Yulia Tymoshenko, Ukraine
        Angela Merkel, Germany
        Michele Bachelet, Chile
        Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf,Liberia
        Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo,Philippines
        Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, Argentina
        Tarsa Halonen, Finland

        In the U.S. a higher percentage of women are going to college and their numbers in medical and law schools equal or exceed men, as I recall.

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          luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          thanks for bringing knowledge to this discussion
          women are achieving in academics in the western world /no argument there
          alot of women succeeding in a man's world
          lets get a woman president
          lets get at least 50% of public office into the hands of females
          lets activate women power globally
          luabu

          1. Ralph Deeds profile image68
            Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            A dilemma faced by growing numbers of career women is how to achieve balance between their careers and care for their children and attention to their husbands, or how to divide family responsibilities between the spouses. More and more families don't seem to be able to get by with only one wage earner, husband or wife.

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              luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              point taken ralph thanks
              you have the makings of a good spy in that get up of yours
              what can be more important for women than the future existence of our world/tomorrows dinner?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No way.
      The male gender is already becoming sissified enough.
      I want men to step up and be the men they're supposed to be.
      And we women should be able to rest assured our men will provide for us and protect us to the best of their abilities.
      Men, be men.  Women, be women.

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Great idea Brenda
                           just how many centuries are you going to give them?

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          Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          As long as it takes.
          God's mercy endures forever, so mine must too!
          haha

          Doesn't mean I won't pop 'em upside the head with a skillet to make 'em do their roles properly! HAA

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            luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Brenda face it . if you want something done you have to do it yourself.
                                     Man's most consistant trait has been stupidity
                                     Surely you would do better .

      2. kateperez profile image74
        kateperezposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You wish to be provided for?

        In the world where men provide for women, women work about ten times as much and have no success to show for it other than the success of others, their "men" their boy children, and the fact that they believe that their female children are successful if they also allow a man to provide for them.

        Women are better than second class citizens.  We are smart, capable, and should be given independent right with total equality with men.

        Provide for?  I, ME, *I* provide for my family, my household, my life. I depend on no one.

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      Jake Gene Barnesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      In much of the world... yeah, women are still second class citizens and it's absolutely detestable.

      Certain Islamic nations come to mind.

      However, here in the states, I'm not so sure your argument holds it weight.

      Look up misandry or masculism and you'll see that things aren't quite the way you portray them to be.

      1. Violence against men minimalized or taken less seriously than violence against women.

      2. Depiction of violence against men as humorous, in the media and elsewhere (see Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them!), when women are also violent.

      3. Assumption of female innocence or sympathy for women, which may result in problems such as disproportionate penalties for men and women for similar crimes, lack of sympathy for male victims in domestic violence cases, and dismissal of female-on-male rape cases.

      4. Only men are called up during a military draft.

      5. A 1992 study found that boys are subject to the stereotype that they need significantly less protection against sexual abuse compared to girls. It also found that this leads to less reporting of abuse and to discrimination in which victims receive less treatment and less support from others if they are male.

      6. Discrimination with regard to child custody.

      7. Unfairness in the way the alimony and child support systems are structured.

      8. Pregnancies carried to term despite agreements ahead of time that they would not be, subjecting men to unwanted parental responsibilities and/or child support expectations.

      9. The opposite of the above, where a man who wants to have a child has no say in whether his partner aborts their child and is not even notified if the abortion takes place.

      10. Legislation that addresses women's needs without considering the corresponding need in men. (e.g., Women, Infants, and Children Act; Violence Against Women Act)

      11. Biases in the justice system against men, such as higher incarceration rates and longer sentences for men (compared to women) for the same crimes.

      12. Statutory rape laws enforced more vehemently in instances where the victim is female and/or the perpetrator is male.

      The list goes on and on.

      I believe in TOTAL equality. I think that men and women should be treated EXACTLY the same. Sadly, we still have a long way to go towards this end.

      Keep in mind, I am NOT saying that women don't have it rough. They do, but it's not as clear cut as you pretend it to be.

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      Jake Gene Barnesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Also, suggesting a Civil War as the answer is asinine.

      *edited for content* LOL

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Extremely stupid or foolish-asinine
        So foolish, unreasonable, or out of place as to be amusing-ludicrous
        not much of a gap beteen these two jake
        did you swallow a thesaurus

        a war between factions in the same country-civil war
        the waging of armed conflict against an enemy-war
        i was exaggerating/you thought i was serious?

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          Jake Gene Barnesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You said, and I quote, "We need a civil war..."

          You never once alluded to it being an exaggeration, and why would you expect that I would assume it to be? There are crazy-ass people in this world and I have no way to determine if you are one of them or not.

          Also, I find it amusing that you would attempt to discredit me by making fun of my use of two "similar" words. So what? I made a mistake.

          Anyway, more to the point, I apologize for taking your post seriously (perhaps I'm "slow on the uptake"), and calling your post asinine and thereby insinuating that you are yourself asinine.

          BTW, you gave the definition of civil war as:

          "a war between factions in the same country"

          And then you go on to describe the word war:

          "the waging of armed conflict against an enemy"

          So... we could say that:

          Civil War:

          "The waging of armed conflict between factions in the same country."

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            luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            not at all /you wrote the stuff/it's there for people to read
            thats about all there is to say on this jake
            war means armed conflict /i included that to be fair
            my profile is there to look at if you thought i was a crazy
            ya kinda jumped in a bit /maybe
            it's hard to  imagine a civil war by women against men
            maybe civil disobedience/i was exaggerating
            nobody asked me why i'd hate to be a woman so i left it down at the bottom
            ya jumped in and i defended myself as politely as i could

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              Jake Gene Barnesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I "amended" my previous post to make it more "reasonable."

              I felt the way that it was originally posted was a bit too emotional.

              I apologize if I appear to be attacking you, that's not my intent.

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                luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Thanks Jake
                it's good cop bad cop on hubs sometimes
                an important dynamic to give a hub interest

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            luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Civil War:

            "The waging of armed conflict between factions in the same country."

            that's why i included the definition of war/to be fair and explain the exaggeration
            luabu

    6. Les Trois Chenes profile image90
      Les Trois Chenesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I totally agree; only I think I'd hate being a man even more.

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        look    i found someone who agrees with me

                     it's a start!

    7. OpinionDuck profile image61
      OpinionDuckposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      There are no Women Gods, they are all men.
      Start your protest at the top.~:}

      1. kerryg profile image87
        kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That depends on how you define God, doesn't it? As far as I know, there aren't any female equivalents of Yahweh/God/Allah, but most pagan religions have female deities and in some cases, like the Neopagan Triple Goddess, they're the dominant focus of worship.

        1. OpinionDuck profile image61
          OpinionDuckposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Is that the God you follow?

  2. prettydarkhorse profile image62
    prettydarkhorseposted 5 years ago

    I love and happy being a woman, I can do anything same as a man, except to carry heavy objects. Different culture placed different values to women though, but that is their culture, as long as they are happy with what they are doing.

  3. Rishy Rich profile image79
    Rishy Richposted 5 years ago

    You wouldnt do better being a man either, Trust me!

    1. Richieb799 profile image62
      Richieb799posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah Real men suffer all the time.

  4. Rajab Nsubuga profile image59
    Rajab Nsubugaposted 5 years ago

    I don't know why I am siding with you. But talk about carrying heavy objects and I think you overlooked your chest.

    1. couturepopcafe profile image60
      couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      raj - lol  that's hysterical coming from you because your avatar looks like such a scholarly straight forward guy.  Which is worse - the weight and inconvenience of the chest or the dangling agressiveness between the legs?  Too funny.

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    luabuposted 5 years ago

    Any more beasts of burden out there?

    1. couturepopcafe profile image60
      couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The one between your ears?  wink

  6. arb profile image80
    arbposted 5 years ago

    I suspect as in all things, the grass is also greener here. Obviously, in a broken world (relative) one might assume that women might do a better job than men have done. Perhaps they would do a poorer job. Marriage has taught me that we are both proficient in advancing the cause of chaos and confusion. Fortunately, we are at times capable of the opposite. Accustomed to my own difficiencies and only an observer to hers, I choose to remain where I am and I suspect she feels the same. Spies have not faired very well over the course of history so I with-hold my service, however, If things get better, I will assume you have had your way. If they get worse, I will assume the same. Good luck!

    1. couturepopcafe profile image60
      couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I think it would be great if all men became women and all women became men - magically of course and overnight.  This would change the world's perspective in a heartbeat.

  7. sofs profile image87
    sofsposted 5 years ago

    I love to be a woman and I am happy being the woman I am. I accept myself and do the best I can. Not all men are presidents or great in any way and so are women. It is all about doing your best where you are whether you are man or a woman.

  8. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 5 years ago

    ...luv bein' a woman....women rock!....women have a lot of power...whether it's up front or behind the scenes....lots of strength......'i'll never be your beast of burden'....

  9. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    I LOVE being a woman! Carrying a baby and giving birth is a an amazing experience that men will never understand.

  10. luvpassion profile image60
    luvpassionposted 5 years ago

    Women do have alot of power we just prefer to keep it in the background and let the men have the glory. And Why not? Being in the spotlight all the time can ruin your complexion...what does a man care. big_smile

    The sun outshines the moon yet the moon has power.

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      this man cares
      the world needs you lot up front and over the top

  11. Daniel Carter profile image91
    Daniel Carterposted 5 years ago

    If you understand love, you're already a supporter of women and human rights.

    In the end, that's what the "rights" issue is about--human rights. All other issues and causes about "rights" are derivatives, IMO.

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      what most women get out of this is


      the right to remain silent

      rights made by men for men with no infrastructure within society to correct the bias

      luabu

      take a simple on the ground example daniel

      at every airport in the world women queue for loos while men walk nonchantly past

      explain that to me Daniel and stop talking human rights
      women have the right to pee without waiting

      why don't you ladies invade the mens
      is it too over the top for you

      1. Daniel Carter profile image91
        Daniel Carterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The world is unfair. Individuals don't have to be. That's my point. In every place that you can make a difference for the better, make that difference. That's what I'm trying to do.

        It's effective. People catch on.

      2. kateperez profile image74
        kateperezposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Invading the men's room will get you arrested.

        Happened here, in Houston, Tx, during a sports event.  The ladies line was super-long, the woman could not wait, the men did not mind, and she did her business.

        When she left the men's room she was promptly arrested.  Now there are more ladies facilities in the sports complex there.

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          luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          exactly my point kateperez
          thanks for thinking about this and giving a great example
          action will result in change
          you have the power /use it  /women for women/ level the playing field for a fair game

      3. Rajab Nsubuga profile image59
        Rajab Nsubugaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Women also have the right to pee while standing.

        1. Joy56 profile image60
          Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          it gets messy tho

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          china manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Ppparently as 2uesday wrote abaove somewhere
          "Hence we are about to enter a new era of women being able to hold their own."
          So not only the right but the ability - gotta see that big_smile

          1. Joy56 profile image60
            Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            seeing is believing right?

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              china manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I feel it in my water !      How are things in Ireland now, in the context of this thread - have you got a man back in charge of the place yet to fix the woman-handling of hte economy by your Pres big_smile

              1. Joy56 profile image60
                Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                our president is a man...... he is being blamed for everything.  He goes on all day time shows and takes a battering, Not really into politics at all, and of course am English not Irish.... Whole world is f up if you ask me... Putting a woman in charge wont help much i dont think... nothing will

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      easy question daniel

      at every airport in the world women queue for loos while men walk nonchantly past

      why?

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    Home Girlposted 5 years ago

    It's probably all depends on your culture. I grew up in a place where women were treated equally, and behaved and worked equally hand in hand with men. And they did hard physical work too! Though sometimes they could not lift heavy things, then men would help them, usually without even asking, because nobody expected them to be able to do that. And if something happened to a man, his woman became the master of the household and continued to govern everything or would hire somebody to help, but she would be the master anyway, and no one would be surprised. I do not feel the need to be a man. I do not see the difference, other than gender. A man has some organs that are shaped differently, some hormones that work differently, so what? I do not want to be a president anyway - too much hassle. I'd better cook dinner. smile
    if you are not happy being a woman you'll be equally unhappy being a man, garanteed! It's not your gender that makes you happy, it's your attitude towards life.

  13. LondonGirl profile image90
    LondonGirlposted 5 years ago

    Hey, not all countries are as backward as the USA when it comes to gender equality!

    We've had a woman as head of state for at least 25 years before I was born until date, for example. And she's not the first. And we had a woman PM for all of the 1980s, too.

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      london girl hi
      stay with this /we all read the papers
      you will still stand in the queue for the loo at Heathrow while I walk nonchantly by.

      why?

      1. LondonGirl profile image90
        LondonGirlposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I never stand in the queue at Heathrow. I try to avoid the place.

      2. Anath profile image71
        Anathposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Is there a queue? 

        A few ago months during a party in London, I was going to the toilet when a man came out -leaving it dirty- I ordered him to clean it up for me, before I went in.  (just in case you are wondering, yes he did it, and I went in to use a spotless toilet)

        Did I mention that he was 1.90cm and I am only 1.60cm...?

        Want to talk about girl power? smile

        BTW, the only reason why you would walk nonchantly infront of me would be bad manners!

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          luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          good on ya girl  / good example
          exactly the real conversation i am trying to start here
          sort these out for me anath
          why don't women vote for women?
          why are gynaecologists in the western world mostly men?
          why is equality taking so long?
          why are most religions trying to demean women?
          why do women in the first world not stand up for women in the third world?
          why are there no purely female issues or parties in politics
          why why why

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      hi london girl
      the lady at the top ot the page is English /want to guess?

    3. luvpassion profile image60
      luvpassionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah and don't forget the Queen. wink

      Actually we're not as backward as that...I can do anything I want to do and still wear my mini-skirt without being stoned to death.

      By-the-bye...sometimes men come in handy big_smile

      P.S. Speaking of power, my mini-skirt has stopped trucks. lol

    4. Uninvited Writer profile image84
      Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Margaret Thatcher does not count smile

    5. kateperez profile image74
      kateperezposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Backwards?

      Please!

      There is enough name calling between those who believe they are smarter and therefore in charge.

      I am not backwards, and do not appreciate the offense of being told my country is.

      Thank you very much.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Londongirl - I love that you see the U.S. as backwards. The word backwards may be a misnomer but I take your point.  The U.S. is still only 235 years old and has a lot to catch up on though I'm sure you will admit they have started some great world trends in many respects.

        1. Joy56 profile image60
          Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm they like war too dont they

  14. Shadesbreath profile image90
    Shadesbreathposted 5 years ago

    Anyone who thinks men rule anything, no matter how strong or violent they are, hasn't read Wuthering Heights very closely.

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      Home Girlposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Or may be not at all... yikes

    2. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
      schoolgirlforrealposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      such the scholar!

  15. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    I assure you I don't just "follow".

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      why are there not enough women's toilets at most international airports or public  buidings/  who is doing this
      you don't follow/ do you queue?
      luabu
      its not a hard question/nobody even attempted to answer it yet
      best answer so far
      i don't use that airport

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        luabu - you seem obsessed with the lack of women't toilets.  Perhaps you might consider coming up with a plan to alleviate this dilemma to the benefit of all mankind.  P.S. - love the pop-up urinals in the middle of London city.

        1. Joy56 profile image60
          Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          are you hijacking this thread.... i am looking after it for luabu... he may get upset.....

  16. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    I don't queue any more than men overall as far as I have observed.  And I have used toilets in dozens of airports with no problem.  The fact that men can pee standing up is just a matter of anatomy, not discrimination.

    Besides, I question the idea that women do nothing but follow, and you respond is queuing for the toilet?  Not terribly strong evidence for XX=hell IMHO.  I follow people when driving on the freeway too, that doesn't make whoever is ahead of me my master.

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      i pass women queuing for loos everywhere i go
      Faro Airport/Rome Airport/neil young rock concert /O2 Centre Dublin
      Leoparstown Races etc etc etc/Disney World et...............
      We live in different worlds /mines the real one
      am i seeing things or are you telling porky pies
      what do other poeple think
      I'll bow to their accumulated wisdom

      1. psycheskinner profile image79
        psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I think you're a bit crazy.  Also you don't seem to consider the option we live in different places and have different experiences.  For a start, I have the experience of actually being a woman.

        Bottom line, if the only thing wrong with being a female is the line for the loo, I can live with that. Everything has pros and cons and I would take loo lines over male pattern baldness.

        Besides, the point you were actually making was that women do nothing but follow, that is still untrue.  For a start I am not following you, I am not agreeing with you and I am not accepting that a man can or should define what being a woman is really like.

        There may not be a female pres, but plenty of Prime Ministers, Secretary of State, High Court Judges etc. The rest will come with a little more time.

  17. kirstenblog profile image77
    kirstenblogposted 5 years ago

    I love being a woman, mostly. I suspect if I were a man I would love it similarly. I think we get to hung up on the battle of the sexes. If we balanced power between the sexes we might find things work more smoothly and fairly as we would function on more of a middle ground area. Operating to one extreme or another never ends well hmm

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      hi kirstenblog

      Bottom line, if the only thing wrong with being a female is the line for the loo, I can live with that. Everything has pros and cons and I would take loo lines over male pattern baldness

      do you get this cos i don't
      architects design airports and i assume someone approves the plans
      this should not be a battle
      its about fair play for women
      we haven't even got to the third world or religion yet
      bye
      luabu

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    luabuposted 5 years ago

    I think you're a bit crazy.

    you may have said this because you don't get where i'm coming from  psycheskinner
    are you going to follow time until things get better?

    i struggle to get you but i don't think you are crazy

  19. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    I don't follow any more than men do.

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      read this back to yourself before you delete it

      1. psycheskinner profile image79
        psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        No.

        Funny *you* seem to expect women to be obedient.  But it ain't happening.

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          luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          hi psycheskinner

          so far among other things you have said

          I assure you I don't just "follow

          The fact that men can pee standing up is just a matter of anatomy, not discrimination

          I think you're a bit crazy

          I don't follow any more than men do.

          Funny *you* seem to expect women to be obedient. But it ain't happening

          Bottom line, if the only thing wrong with being a female is the line for the loo, I can live with that. Everything has pros and cons and I would take loo lines over male pattern baldness.

          maybe you're losing it just a bit
          luabu

  20. Lifeallstar1 profile image60
    Lifeallstar1posted 5 years ago

    I do not hate being a woman one bit! Even with all your reasons listed that is a bit ridiculous to say if you were a woman living today that you would hate it. I can only speak for myself and growing up in the US though. Hate is a strong word and I might hate it in some other countries. To hear about how women are treated there is sickening and I would hate it. Here in America I will say that most woman do not follow but I think I see what you are trying to say. I think the answer is time! Things are changing everyday but it will take more time. We just had our first African American President so I do feel that this country is lacking in some ways. It was formed by white men who saw African Americans and woman as second class citizens and it really hurt us all with this type of thinking. Woman have fought for many many years now and all I can really say is that everything is still not totally equal but it will be. Woman have proved they are just as smart and capable. Things have certainly changed but a little more time is needed before we 100 percent notice it. I'm talking as a whole. I could list many many powerful women who men couldn't even come close to but again as a whole this country is not there yet. As far as bathrooms lol I haven't really noticed the injustice there. They seem fine to me.

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      habee's mini democracy sounds like a template for a  global concept
      i agree with you lifeallstar1 it's not there yet  why
      There is a need for revolution/women have all the power but they never use it
      Organise boycotts of badly designed public places/get them modified
      Women should vote for women until the bias is addressed
      You have consumer power/don't buy from countries that degrade women on that principle alone
      confront the injustice of these man religions before the put you under a cart
      organise and i'll be your spy
      the world needs women to get out of the passenger seat
      habee's world but on a global scale
      luabu

  21. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    My husband runs things around our house: the dishwasher, the washing machine, the dryer, the vacuum cleaner...Kidding! We don't have a vacuum cleaner - all our floors are oak. lol

  22. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    I'd love to vote for a woman for POTUS, but it ain't gonna be Palin. lol

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      hi habee
      If i was a woman i'd vote to have god degendered?

      1. Joy56 profile image60
        Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        ah no we like to let men think they are the boss, it suits us

  23. Joy56 profile image60
    Joy56posted 5 years ago

    Come to Dublin Airport, there is never a queue at the womens toilets.  That's all i have to say really you can say the rest.....  can't you?????

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      joy56 i sure can

      listen girls

      the world is in a complete mess
      it is wasteful violent unjust and ready to crash
      it runs on pure testosterone

      we have one card left to play

      50% of the world are subservient and undermotivated
      you want the man to drive for selfish reasons
      you think he will do less damage if you can see him
      you think he's cute  with his little steering wheel
      fasten your seat belts girls
      we're all going to crash
      men are idiots

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Ok, luabu, you've tipped your hand.  I've been saying the world is full of idiots for some time now.  Don't throw yourself into that pot, please.  The reason 50% of the world is undermotivated by comparison is because they don't have the testosterone level of men.  I do all my own driving.  Men want to drive my Jeep but, no, sorry.  I bought it, I drive it.  I drive my world, no one else.  The reason women's toilets are backed up (pun unintended) is partly because of our anatomy and partly because men can 'go in the woods'.  You're right about the people who design these facilities, though.  They haven't figured it out yet.  So you're on a man-hating kick right now.  You're not the first and you won't be the last.  Do something about it procedurally and move on.  Make it you're life's work.  Run for president if you think you've got the cahones.  You seem a bit out of touch with the average woman of age and experience.  You are very in touch with toilets, however.  wink

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      hi joy 56
      new grand canal theatre dublin just built
      a queue for the ladies down the corridor for the Hairspray show recently
      the O2 is even worse
      Ireland is a joke for women in this regard
      tell it like it is

  24. Evan G Rogers profile image84
    Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago

    I just got done writing a paper on issues of gender in education.

    Here's a good video:

    http://fora.tv/2010/03/31/Dr_Louann_Bri … Male_Brain

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      hi evan
      i'll check this tomorrow /hope i like it

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Evan  i watched a good bit of this
                  it was the intro from hell before the speech
                  the speech
                                         heres the word that is rattling in my head

                    blase

                                              that's how it was for me/others might disagree
      God ,your nothinig in america without a few qualifications/it was like reading out tiger woods acomplishments before the first tee at Augusta
      up my way we have a saying
                    Brag is a bad dog  ..............ever heard  of it/let me know
      thanks for info    Evan

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image84
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        that was hard to read...

        1. prettydarkhorse profile image62
          prettydarkhorseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          LOL, I thought I am very slow with this..

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            luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            hi prettydarkhorse
            i assure you you are not slow
            my post was vague at best/it referred to Evan's link which is worth a look
            it states that men and women's brains are fundamentally and physically different which is a good watch
            have a look and maybe offer an opinion
            luabu

  25. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    Seriously, queues are not a #1 human rights issue.  Sense of perspective required here. 

    That is how it is.

    Women can work, vote, get educated and do whatever they want in most 1st world countries.

    Yay for being a woman!!!

    1. kerryg profile image87
      kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, this.

      Thousands of years of patriarchy do not vanish overnight. Honestly, I'm pretty pleased with how far we've come, considering that there are still people alive today who were born when women didn't even have the right to vote.

      As for the OP's strange obsession with bathroom lines, if he's really so concerned about women's rights, minor inconveniences like that should be the least of his worries. tongue

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        does this bit about the bathrooms  make any sense to anyone
        it's people i love who are in the queue being treated like second class citizens


        Thousands of years of patriarchy do not vanish overnight

        that bit i agree with/we have to vanish it asap

        thats my point
        hi kerryg

        1. kerryg profile image87
          kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          "we have to vanish it asap"

          By insulting and belittling the opinions of the female contributors to this thread, you're not exactly helping the cause. tongue

          Yes, there is such a thing as internalized misogyny. That's why it's generally women who arrange for their daughters to be mutilated in societies that practice FGM, women who order their daughters-in-law to be burned in dowry murders, and so forth.

          But if a bunch of different women from a bunch of different backgrounds, countries, and positions on gender equality (including both rabid feminists such as myself and rabid non-feminists such as Brenda) are telling you that the public toilets thing isn't nearly as big a deal as you're making it out to be, maybe you should consider that it's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be.

          The first rule of being an ally is listening. Sailing in as a member of the dominant group and informing us that you know our problems better than we do ourselves is scarcely better than patting us on the head and telling us not to worry our pretty selves about anything because the big strong men will take care of everything for us. It's counter-productive and, frankly, offensive.

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            luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            did you listen to what kateperez had to say on the toilets thing
            thanks for your contribution and information
            i think you are saying that input like mine into this whole area is not really helpful
            this seems strongly felt and might well be true
            my motivation in this is that i think the only really underused resource we have on this earth is the commonsense of women.
            this is a man's world and it shouldn't be /it should be shared
            women need to be able to live without fear
            that's not happening

            1. kerryg profile image87
              kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              "my motivation in this is that i think the only really underused resource we have on this earth is the commonsense of women"

              I agree completely, but if you really want to be an ally, you need to learn how to listen better.

              http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/07/1 … nist-ally/
              http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-03-08_146

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                luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                hi kerryg
                   thanks for the links
                    i got through the first one and half the second one
                    it's all very logical and precious but  jesus it isn't half boring

                        whats wrong with
                            asking women to vote for women because they are women
                            asking women to boycott places publicly because they are inadequate
                            asking women to organise around exclusively women issues
                            asking women to protest/students do it /pensioners do it/farmers do it
                            asking women to step up
                            asking women to help more around the house
                              habee's world makes sense to me
                             sorry but yours just bores me to tears

                1. kerryg profile image87
                  kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  "whats wrong with asking women to vote for women because they are women"

                  Internalized misogyny, remember? If I were going to vote for a woman for no other reason than that she's a woman, then I might be stuck voting for women such as Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Meg Whitman, etc. I could hardly disagree more with these women on most issues.

                  "asking women to boycott places publicly because they are inadequate"

                  If you gotta go, you gotta go. ~shrugs~ Very few buildings have restrooms inadequate for normal circumstances. Situations such as concert halls, airports immediately after a large flight has deplaned, etc. are exceptions, and financially it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to build and maintain enough restrooms to handle top capacity when they'll only be used to full capacity for a few brief periods during the day, or even just a few times a year.

                  "asking women to organise around exclusively women issues"

                  Um, it's called feminism. There are tons of organizations out there dedicated exclusively to women's issues and quite a few of them are politically active.

                  "asking women to protest/students do it /pensioners do it/farmers do it"

                  So do women. What on earth makes you think we don't?

                  http://i52.tinypic.com/f05bw9.jpg

                  http://i55.tinypic.com/2iufiw5.jpg

                  http://i55.tinypic.com/2q1fptg.jpg

                  http://i51.tinypic.com/2ymt9pf.jpg

                  http://i53.tinypic.com/2j601hs.jpg

                  "asking women to step up"

                  To what, exactly?

                  "asking women to help more around the house"

                  Ah, the truth comes out.

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                    luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    hi kerryg
                    i commend you for your work on this and bringing knowledge to this hub
                    the help around the house thing was an obscure reference to running the world
                    its hard and illogical to vote for some one purely on gendre but my point is
                    like the toilet situation direct action leads to change
                    if women vote for women then women will be nominated by all parties /the choice will improve and more women  will be elected
                    you people make up 50% of the world population
                    men look after themselves /now its your turn

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                    luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    exercise your consumer rights in a more focused way so that you are helping women world wide
                    don't go with  the flow/
                    it's time to stand up and be counted
                    the world needs you badly
                    theres a link on this hub to a lecture which shows that men and womens brains are  different
                    we think in a different way for a whole host of reasons
                    i agree with this which points to the importance of balanced input from the two types of thinking in world affairs
                    this is not happening and  this is why i suggest urgency and affirmative action

                    start the war  and i will be your spy

            2. couturepopcafe profile image60
              couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              luabu - remember - men's approach to a problem is to give it a fix.  You want to fix this.  Great.  Personally, I suspect you're not really a man, but a woman posing as one on this thread.  Just an insight I gather from some of the way you've worded things.  Next remember - woman think things through before they find a fix.  Hence the delay (albeit years worth) in fixing anything worldly.  Perhaps you're tired of waiting for your 'loved ones' while they wait in line?

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                luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                coulurepopcafe
                                                      hi   not really , my daughter is a young person starting her life /15/ and i do not want her insulted along with her mother in a line for a loo/it is bad for her spirit and her self esteem/i tell her its not her fault ,its someone elses and it need s to be firxed/i tell her to speak her mind and stand up for her self even when it is hard

  26. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    I did write those things. Did you have a point there or just think they warranted repeating?

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      psycheskinner
      you jumped to the bottom of this thread to get away from your own words
      i don't blame you  / anyone who wants to see them will have to read upwards
      then you give me another classic

      That is how it is.

      thats reallly really brilliant    that is how it is
      Bye

  27. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    See ya.

  28. 2uesday profile image90
    2uesdayposted 5 years ago

    Just one thing to say here you obviously have not met some of the young women I have.

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      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      hi 2uesday
      youth is the future
      i met a girl last week 20yr old  trainee teacher  never heard of hiroshima
      tell me about the one's you know
      Give us hope

  29. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    I think most of us already have hope.  I just met a bunch of new graduate veterinarians, mostly female.  A wonderful group.

  30. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
    schoolgirlforrealposted 5 years ago

    1 thing men cannot do is be a mother.
    The strongest bond is mother and child.....it's very special

    Didn't eve tempt adam into eating an apple in the garden of eden? He "stupidly" ate it. So maybe we are ahead in the intelligence dept. just not so much as physical and men take advantage of that

    1. richtwf profile image61
      richtwfposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Agree - Mother and child relationship is in indeed very special and no father can replace a mother.

      1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
        schoolgirlforrealposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        big_smile

    2. 2uesday profile image90
      2uesdayposted 5 years ago

      Intelligent women do not have to shout to be heard they earn respect by who they are and by working hard, and usually they find partners who respect them.

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        who is the woman at the top of the page
        clue  she's english
        want to guess or do you know?

    3. Tusitala Tom profile image89
      Tusitala Tomposted 5 years ago

      What a thing to say!  "I'd hate to be a woman."  How much thought went into that, I wonder.  And how subjective.  Unless you are a woman how could you know it's a hateful situation to be in?

      I'm a man.  I can honestly say that, in most societies it is far more easy to live as a man than a woman.  Fortunately, most Westernized societies are making gradual improvements, but most of the world is still weighted heavily against women.  Let's hope that eventually comes to and end.

      Point to remember is that Nature did not split the human race into two sexes for no reason.  Each should be honoured and valued equally.   Each gender has it's own strengths and weaknesses, virtues and shortcomings.   It's about time both men and women started to accept that.

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        why not lower the public speaking tone just a little
        after all your only talking to one person me
        your soliloquay was  a mix of nonsense and the bleeding obvious
        i'd hate to be a woman is as you say

        And how subjective

        the last paragraph will need a strong delivery for it to amount to anything
        why didn't you just ask me why i said i'd hate to be a woman instead of lashing into the Gettysburg Address Tom Style

    4. Joy56 profile image60
      Joy56posted 5 years ago

      you are in the know about Ireland aren't you... and love to stir the pot..... this thread is hilarious

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        shake the tree and see what falls out  thats me/hows the mood joy56

        1. Joy56 profile image60
          Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          improving thanks be to ...... whatever......

    5. Uninvited Writer profile image84
      Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago

      Well, Canada has already had a female prime minister and many world leaders are women. We have a way to go but we are getting there. I am not going to vote for someone just because they are female.

      Women take longer in the bathroom than men...that is just the way it is.

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        you should vote for a woman just because she is a woman
        build more womens bathrooms
        get architects  to use their brains/most of them are men

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      Home Girlposted 5 years ago

      I think you just hate women, but that's your problem not theirs!
      Admit it.

      1. psycheskinner profile image79
        psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Quite.

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        how did you come to this conclusion home girl
        i'm baffled / the lady who posted first on this thread thought the opposite

        1. couturepopcafe profile image60
          couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You got one thing right.  You're baffled.

          1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
            schoolgirlforrealposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            lol

    7. psycheskinner profile image79
      psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

      'I'd hate to be a woman' is a ridiculous thing to say.  Which is why this thread became ridiculous.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Have you not figured out he's (or she's) just baiting?

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
          Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          He definitely is smile

        2. evvy_09 profile image88
          evvy_09posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Or trying to bait.  Bad job that.

      2. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
        schoolgirlforrealposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hmm yeah
        "i'd hate to be a man and Have to go to war...."

        No actually I would like to be a man and have no period...

        then again I'd like to be a mom......hmmmmm

        maybe men and women have equal issues??hmm wink

    8. Tusitala Tom profile image89
      Tusitala Tomposted 5 years ago

      'Schoolgirlforreal' states that there is "No stronger bond than between mother and child."  I'm not so sure.   A mother I know deserted her 18 month-old baby daughter to run off to live with another guy in a land far away - leaving her baby to be raised by her father  - my younger son.

      My son has now had sole care, as a single or solo parent, for nearly three of years.   The little girl, now four, strongest bond is obviously with her father, not her mother.  Mother is a faint memory - if remembered at all.

      So although I agree that the bond between mother and child is extremely strong in most circumstances, it is a 'generalization' to assume this is always the case.

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        Home Girlposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        There are lots of idiots among both sexes, it's not the point. it is always the case when we are dealing with normal people. Mother would starve but give her last food to her child with a smile. Jumps in front of a speeding car(I did that once) to save her child. Because her child is part of her. If she behaves differently - she is not normal.


        http://s3.hubimg.com/u/4242074_f248.jpg

        How can you hate her?
        I am proud to be a mother actually. I am glad I am.

      2. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
        schoolgirlforrealposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        well yes, there are Always exceptions to the rule. sorry to hear your case.

    9. Anath profile image71
      Anathposted 5 years ago

      Lets save the world and campaign for more women's toilets in airports lollollollollollol

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        anath
        toilets are the tip of the iceberg and just an example
        not a laughing matter for the people in the queue
        these buildings are designed for purpose

        how many consious decisions by architects and planners have ignored female needs completely
        how many women have endured this ignomiy without sorting it out why
        this is serious as it expresses  a mindset in society
        it's laughing that has things like this

        1. wilderness profile image97
          wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Perhaps there is another answer than requiring architects to spend large sums of money and valuable building real estate to satisfy women's needs in the loo.

          Consider that most men probably spend an average of less than 3 minutes in the room per visit.  Can we not convince women to do the same?  Don't spend another 3 minutes combing hair or putting makeup on.  Don't take time to chat to a friend or stranger.  Just go in, do it, and get out!

          As Bill Cosby pointed out, women seem to use the restroom as a social gathering place - something men just don't do.  What do you all do in there?  It can't possibly be simply administering to bodily needs or there wouldn't be a queue to get in!

          Just a thought...

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            luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            nonsense wilderness
            the buildings are not designed properly for purpose
            you need approx  5 times more cubicles in the ladies
            at the moment there are usually the same number or less
            use your head /stay serious

            1. wilderness profile image97
              wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              5 times!!!  Whatever for?

              I work in the building trades, and although I have never done a large facility such as an airport, I find that most bathrooms that might have 5 cubicles for men (including urinals) will have about 7 for women plus at least twice as much counter/sink space.  That should be plenty.

              I wrote my post somewhat tongue in cheek, but only somewhat.  I do not notice women at home taking inordinate amounts of time in the loo - why should they do so in a public place where other women are waiting?

              Seriously, I understand that physical differences and necessities require more time for women, but 5 times as long?  Accompanying children might add to the total, but I find more and more men are taking children/infants with them as well.  The only thing I can think of is the beauty parlor syndrome (which the loo is not) and a chat room.  Eliminate these two time wasters and perhaps there would be no line.

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                luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                thanks wilderness for coming back with knowledge
                7 fo 5 seems  a bit too short especially in places like arrivals at airports or show venues where you expect a rush so to speak at intervals

                this is how a lay man sees it

                its down to no 1's and 2's
                20%of people male and female max are going for no 2's
                20%of men do no2's in cublicles 100%of women
                7 for 5 wont cut it here
                did no architect /planner /surveyor or whatever do research on this
                they do it with traffic at traffic lights
                how hard can it be
                a building should be built for purpose
                letting women suffer in silence seems like normal behaviour for both sides
                the tip of the iceberg as far as i can make out
                someone needs to do the maths on this/maybe a woman

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                  luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  20%of men do no2's in cublicles 100%of women
                  i'm talking crap here ain't I
                  which one is a no 1 /its so long since i called them this i can't remember
                  you know what i mean thanks wilderness

                  1. wilderness profile image97
                    wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    lol  Yes, that took me a minute!

                    A major consideration, whether we like it or not, is cost.  Considering that a home can run $100 per square foot, it would seem reasonable to find a commercial building at double that, or $200 per foot.  Bathroom cubicles are much higher with typically ceramic tile, fixtures, cubicle walls and doors.

                    I've never been involved in pricing, but it would seem to me that a typical cubicle might cost, at 6X4 space, (non-handicapped) on the order of $7500 to build in a commercial building.  I suspect that figure is too low.  Add in extra maintenance cost (janitorial, water, repair, etc.) and it quickly becomes a very costly item in the building and pays no return.  No one rents it, and no one pays to use it (at least in the US).  From a business standpoint it is useless space; necessary, but useless as it generates no income.

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                      luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                      hi wilderness /good honest attempt to help
                      if you start running now you might make the border /doubtful!

                    2. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
                      SomewayOuttaHereposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                      ....sure it generates income....indirectly....it's all part of overhead....people come into the building to do some sort of biz...and then take a short break to do their 'biz'....btw....if the ladies is busy...i'll pop on by the men's if i don't have time to wait....not a problem for me....get outta of my way i say...i'm next...and then i'm 'outta here'....big_smile

                2. wilderness profile image97
                  wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  While a "surveyor" of bathroom practices, watching exact procedures in both mens and womens rooms, might be valuable I do NOT apply for the job! lol

          2. kerryg profile image87
            kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Wilderness, women taking inordinate amounts of time at the counter is rarely what holds up the line for the women's bathroom.

            Remember, you guys can just unzip and whip it out - we have to shove down our pants and sit, and due to sanitary concerns in public restrooms, many women either put some sort of cover over the toilet seat or squat. Since we can't direct things as well as you guys can, if we squat there is sometimes clean-up to do afterward. And that's not even getting into the necessity of changing pads/tampons, etc. and cleaning yourself up a bit when you're on your period. All of this takes time. The OP is overstating the problem, imho, but there are perfectly legitimate reasons women take longer in the bathroom that have nothing to do with treating it like a beauty parlor.

            1. Joy56 profile image60
              Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              just a little too much informtion here i feel

            2. wilderness profile image97
              wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Indeed there are good reasons.  I just don't understand the very large difference.  Some difference, yes, and that's why there are typically more women's facilities than mens.  The OP has a point though that there is still often a queue to get in in spite of 40% more facility.

              1. Scribenet profile image83
                Scribenetposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Hi wilderness, I have to disagree on this toilet issue, even tough I am a big fan of yours!

                I personally witnessed a transformation in wait times at a HWY 400 northern route " restaurant stop" when the complaints from females were heard and they switched the "larger" male washroom with the females. I was appalled the male washroom had been three times as much space and no lines, while the female side had a half hour wait.

                The management renovated and switched washrooms... we got more stalls and lo and behold the men are still fine with less (no lines) and now  the females have no lines either. No extra space was required!

                From personal experience, the females on a trip do not spend a lot of time in grooming. We do not like public washrooms period. We go in and do our business and kerryg is spot on that the logistics. Add winter and it gets worse!  Maybe men have to take off their mitts. LOL

                BTW, females usually bring the children to the bathroom and that takes inordinate amounts of time! Plus women tend to do hygiene better than men...I have read where a large percentage of men do not wash hands after using the bathroom...ahem (cough, cough)

                Then on to  luabu...I do enjoy being a woman! Yes the world stinks on the record overall, but if the world was responsible...being female would be celebrated!

                What a loveless and harsh world it would be with just men around plundering, conquering and counting their money! ;-)

                1. wilderness profile image97
                  wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  From your description of the restaurant, I would hazard a guess that it was designed originally more as a truck stop than a family restaurant.  Changing clientele or logistics can certainly make a difference and make a change more palatable to management.  Or perhaps designers simply guessed wrong about the expected customer base. 

                  Either way it sounds like it's set up correctly now, and at no great cost to the company.  That's what it's all about for most businesses - the bottom line.

                  1. Scribenet profile image83
                    Scribenetposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Yes, I would hazard a guess it was originally designed as a truck stop.  Large transports still do stop and park at the service station nearby, so it is a very busy place now!

                    Fortunately for everyone, all is well now and lineups are a thing of the past...though I do not travel there on holidays, when the crowds swell to the point the old problem may crop up again! smile

        2. Joy56 profile image60
          Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          this is hilarious, must go and read your hubs,. r they as funny........ Florence Nightingale sure was a good woman.....

        3. couturepopcafe profile image60
          couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The meeting floor of the U.S. House of Representatives has never had a female bathroom, only a men's room.  Luabu may be starting to make some sense to me.  OMG!

      2. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
        schoolgirlforrealposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hey you know what? I'm a woman hear me roar!!! lol
        Seriously, I am the man in the relationship lol ;lol:

    10. 2uesday profile image90
      2uesdayposted 5 years ago

      So maybe, the reason women cannot run a country is she spend too long in queuing for the toilet in her life time therefore she achieves less than a man. This also means that when important decisions are being made women might miss voting on them by being other wise engaged, i.e. waiting at an airport or other toilet to rid herself of excess fluids.

      However now we do not need to use the airport toilets as frequently as we once did because of the restrictions on fluids we can carry on aircrafts, plus the cost of drinks on aircraft. So now when we arrive at airports we no longer need the facilities. Hence we are about to enter a new era of women being able to hold their own.

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        your having to hold your own at the moment so to speak
        better not drink on the plane either
        find some sense from somewhere please

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        Home Girlposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Don't use the facilities - go to the bushes!
        http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-sign-smileys-980.gif

      3. Anath profile image71
        Anathposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        lol lol lol lol  exactly!

        1. Joy56 profile image60
          Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          wrong you can drink as much as you like in the airports just before boarding the plane.  But if you want to rule the world, or country come to Ireland, the queues are short and we need HELP

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            china manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            OK OK OK  - I'll pop over and help - didn't read the posts above so just assume it is the Guiness we are talking here right ??

            1. Joy56 profile image60
              Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              read the post above then drink Guiness and then come over.... see you soon.....

          2. couturepopcafe profile image60
            couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Didn't the U.S. just loan you a bunch of money which we borrowed from China who earned it from much U.S. trade who literally cut their own manufacturing throat?  Maybe Ireland can use that money to build bathrooms in the U.S., women can get in and out of the loos faster thereby accomplishing more spending on consumer goods, filling the pockets of China, then we can borrow more money, give it to Ireland, and you can build more bathrooms!  Problem solved.  lol

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      luabuposted 5 years ago

      We need a civil war and I volunteer to be a spy for your side.
      Help me help you

      this job interview is not going well for me / i think

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Why i'd hate to be a woman

        I imagine my life would be hell
        i would be frustrated with the way things are
        i would be frustrated with the lack of progress
        i would feel insulted and ignored
        If i lived in some countries my despair would cause me to cry endlessly
        I  would feel afraid all the time
        My opinions on religion would have me killed in alot of countries
        I'd hate it
        The lady at the top of the page is Florence Nightingale /a wonder ful  woman worth reading about if you get the time
        I'm out of here
        Luabu

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          luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          i'm kinda around if someone wants more of my opinions on this subject
          but i'm kinda repeating myself at this stage .
          luabu

          1. Joy56 profile image60
            Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            is it me, or do people just take the bait so easily..... it's me right?

          2. evvy_09 profile image88
            evvy_09posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            nope luabu, youve been repeating since the start of this thread.

    12. 2uesday profile image90
      2uesdayposted 5 years ago

      For the record I have never had to wait to use the ladies at Stansted London airport, or Luton.

      I have waited to get through security but understand the need to check everything and there are men waiting too. I also have to wait to board the plane but everyone else does.

      I fail to understand your preoccupation with toilets being occupied. Women cope with far more problems than that, which is why they are resourceful and good at solving problems.

      To some I may appear quite 'helpless' because I am only 5'4" but believe me in a crisis I am a good member to be on a team, as I can move quick and problem solve because I am good at it through practise.

      World wide women support families, keep the peace in families and make the world a better place, but then so do men.

      That's it on this from me, as I have a full agenda today.

    13. know one profile image59
      know oneposted 5 years ago

      For the record I've used the men's toilets at Landsdowne Park Stadium in Dublin and didn't get arrested. A pint too many of beer seems to be the great equalizer. ;-)

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        it's as simple as that know one
        an internet conspiracy by women to do this and the problem would be solved in a year
        men would wet themselves

        1. Joy56 profile image60
          Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          are you obsessed with toilet issues all the time, or just in the forums????

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            luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            kinda yes and no joy56 - i like to know where the nearest facility is at all times/i try not to talk crap on the forums

            1. couturepopcafe profile image60
              couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Pun intended?

        2. know one profile image59
          know oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Perhaps men wouldn't wet themselves - as the female toilets would now be underutilised given the women's campaign to chat, apply makeup, do one's hair, and oh yeah attend to various bodily functions in the mens toilets, they could just pop in to the previous no-go zone for a quick wizz and get on with the job of being glorious males. ;-)

    14. Joy56 profile image60
      Joy56posted 5 years ago

      Can you repeat that please luaba not sure i got it first time.... 
        are you a lay man????

      just been reading some of comments on this thread.  My husband is out working to keep me, as all men should, i will be cooking his  tea for him, i used to work hard, but now am enjoying letting him keep me, it is great.... it may even catch on.

      I am being ignored.... Am i invisible??????

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Seriously, Joy, what is up with this guy?  Is he trying to ruin our little secret?

        1. Joy56 profile image60
          Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm he must be

    15. Jillian Barclay profile image84
      Jillian Barclayposted 5 years ago

      I love being a woman! Imagine life is equally difficult at times for both sexes, but as women, we are responsible (in most cultures) for raising the future men and women of the world. We should offer our best to both, raising them both to be kind and honest, with character and a sense that we are all equal. If we do a good job as mothers, we will see the next generation become even better people than we are. That is our secret weapon and just ONE way that women have power!

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        jillian
        i'm with you in this to a point
        unfortunately after you rear them they are destroyed in a world of stupidity
        how many mother's reared poets to die in the trenches
        you will not change the world from the bottom
        you had a go at this
        women need to change the world from the top
        be a smart focused political movement with agreed purpose
        confront men with their limitations
        kinda like making him pick up his clothes except global

        1. Jillian Barclay profile image84
          Jillian Barclayposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          True, but that is just one area where I believe women have power. I believe that my daughters and my son are equally capable. Granted, there are physical limitations being a woman, but mentally, no. With the right education, my grandchildren (a boy and a girl) will be equal in their abilities. The changes in attitudes and discrimination may not come as quickly as we would all like, but change is inevitable. The progress that I have seen since the 1950's when I was born (a dinosaur, I know) is pretty impressive. It will continue, I am convinced.

          However, I do not believe that men will ever learn to pick up their clothes! That is an impossible goal with a less than even possible chance of going global!

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            luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            this is the bit i don't get
            why let men away with being stupid
            look at the arms race/that was all about mine's bigger than yours/boys stuff

            is it that?

            you have given up on men
            they are consciously blocking and frustating you
            you are afraid of their reaction
            you don't feel good enough to do it
            its not natural to stop men doing their stuff/like a primal thing
            couldn't be bothered
            you enjoy watching them
            or something else or something of all these things
            identify the reason and we can get round the blockage
            why do women not butt in  and take their place as equals

            1. Joy56 profile image60
              Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              You are a woman right?????

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                luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                ?

                1. Joy56 profile image60
                  Joy56posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  How could you understand so well the pain we go through each day if you weren't...

    16. Joy56 profile image60
      Joy56posted 5 years ago

      my husband picks up both his clothes and mine... he is an angel

    17. Joy56 profile image60
      Joy56posted 5 years ago

      Oh yeah everyone in Ireland just loves toilets....  I have 3 in my house.

      1. know one profile image59
        know oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Lucky you. I only had two. I didn't get arrested for using either... and only had to suffer the occassional queue.

    18. Joy56 profile image60
      Joy56posted 5 years ago

      the toilet issue has a thread of its own, now we can debate on the issue about how good bad or indifferent it is to be female.

    19. princess g profile image60
      princess gposted 5 years ago

      I love being a womean. yes, some things are unfair in life, but that's jsut a part of life. It's how you deal with it that counts.

    20. Joy56 profile image60
      Joy56posted 5 years ago

      This is a great thread..... It is so funny....

    21. PFrutuosa profile image61
      PFrutuosaposted 5 years ago

      smile
      But women are fighting everyday against this millenar system with their own hands. They win battles everyday and they don´t need guns to do it.
      I see a world controled by women in the future and they just deserve it. Some studies show that they are more intelligent than men so let´s give them a chance. Probably they could change the world and make it a better place!

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        luabuposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        i really hope you are right pfrutuosa 
        all our futures depend on women stepping up to bat and playing to win.

     
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