Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that he is the first mixed race President? If so, why do the blacks get to claim him?
I don't know about every state, but in Georgia, where I live, birth certificates list the race of the baby as the race of the mother. If that is the case in Hawaii, it would explain why Obama has never just made his Birth Certificate public. Obama's mother is white, which would make Obama listed as such, effectively doing away with his claim to fame as the first black president.
For the record, I am not a "birther"....I do believe Obama was born here and has every right to be President, even if he is an incompetent one....
pisean - I don't know how long you've been around these parts, but I'm of the opinion that most U.S. presidents inherit a mess, face party opposition, and have to deal with foreign diplomacy issues. With respect, I've found that most of the immigrants I speak with think Democrat stands for democracy. Read the history of Chicago's politics. You'll gain some insight into Obama's rise to glory. I'm not saying he's any better or worse at presidenting than any of them, but don't be fooled. Can anyone say George Soros?
Please, let us know how Obama is allowed to identify his racial background.
It's not a secret - his mother is white, from Kansas originally. His father is from Kenya. That's a country in Africa, for you wingnuts. So he's first generation African-American, and the term in vogue for that racial group for the last 40 years, has been 'black'.
I don't know what the rules are in Ohio about birth certificates... I haven't had a baby -- or any other reason -- to investigate.
Either way, your argument highlights the absurdity of claiming to be one race or the other. I just wrote a paper on this in one of my grad school classes.
Pretty much every single day I went to this class it was "Rich white men are killing, raping, murdering, and secretly destroying the world!!", and I just couldn't take it anymore. I wrote my final paper - despite the assignment's rubric - about how focusing on one group of people is completely pointless and hopeless because calling someone "white" is to show a lack of understanding of science. We're all Africans.
The argument is also flawed because to be rich isn't a bad thing. I pointed out that "to be rich" is to have had numerous ancestors who wisely invested money into profitable enterprises. And, I continued with the argument that "poor" by today's standards is to be "fantastically and unimaginably rich" by 1800s standards.
And on top of that, I argued that it was further pointless to argue along the lines of race because species is a much more important marker of success. Squirrels would LOVE to have a day's work mean being able to sit around in a warm apartment and watch tv... they just aren't able to do it.
Anyway, I like your argument, but I think no race is actually able to "claim" someone. People claim their race because they hope to mislead the masses. I'm not really white - I'm African. So is everyone else who claims the Homo Sapien species.
One cannot argue with the liberal mindset. It is incapable of reason or logical thought. That's why emotion is such a strong part of the liberal argument. BTW, 9/11 cost the U.S. billions of dollars -- if not trillions in the long term -- which Bush had to juggle with the liberal Congress' ongoing spending spree. Obama is spending because he has no idea what else to do. And, yes, Obama was born in Kenya. He has now spent over $2 million keeping his secrets hidden.
Obama straddles fences all the time. Just wait----as soon as it becomes politically-correct to be white, he will try to claim THAT heritage. The chip on the man's shoulder is moveable from one side to the other, just like his feigned morality.
Wow, you guys are enjoying this way too much. Mr Obama is the first black man born to his white mother, how about we take it for what it is, work with each other and make, or may I say keep the United States of America the home of the free. God bless, Merry Christmas, and please let's make it a great new year...
nah.., have you seen the religiuos forum? or the atheist forum? it's a bloody battlefield! Being more interconnected just allows us to push the agenda of our beliefs into peoples faces every time they happen to be online, which is a lot in todays world.
. I'll only do two... . . Q. Why do Driver Ed classes in redneck schools use the car only on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays? A. Because on Tuesday and Thursday, the Sex Ed class uses it. . Q. What's the difference between a southern zoo and a northern zoo? A. The southern zoo has a description of the animal . along with a recipe. . . . Edit: I'm from California. That should give you all the ammunition you need...
habee - as a Jersey girl, I can attest to the truth of all of it - which by the way makes it unfunny. And the fishhead thing? I got 2 brothers and an uncle that'll break your kneecaps for you if you don't watch out.
That's okay. Here in the South, we're all heavily armed! Sorry you didn't see the humor. Did you think it was funny when Southerners were being poked fun at in this thread? Paradigm and I were just having some fun. Lighten up!
How about one day, we focus on a presidents qualifications, his policies, his actions. Race, gender, financial status, should not even be a consideration. Should not be touted or dismissed. Let's judge on the merits. For example, Obama, for all the gushing the press and his sycophants have done, has actually accomplished very little if you really boil things down to the nitty gritty. It's all about perception, not about the reality. A sad commentary on our society today.
His nickname in college was "tripod". Scientifically, this means he has more of his father's negroid genes, and fewer of his mother's caucasian ones. If a person is even 51% black, he must by law be declared "brotherly" for census purposes.
"he must by law be declared "brotherly" for census purposes. " This has or will change, the other box or mixed will be acceptable. What are Asians or Mexicans who are mixed with white ? Asians or Mexican? And I am talking about dark skinned asians, filipinos or darker skinned hispanics pretty obvious the old ways have to be changed. Other is in the demographics in Wikipedia. In Obama case, the african gene is prominent unlike other mixed parents ala Derek Jeter
Obama is called a black person because he is part black and that is the predominant feature you see in him. I do not believe anyone will called him a white man. Tiger Wood is part Asian, black and couple other groups, again he is called a black man because that is the feature you see in him. Some people may call him a black asian since they see his asian features. I myself am part native american and black and I am recognized as a black person. I have no problem with that. It the predominant feature someone sees in person when they classifies them. This not racist. This is the way of the world. It is just a matter of observation.
Yes. Obama describes himself as a black man. I do no think he went around and said he is a white man. Keep in mind, there are a lot of black americans who have whites and other groups of people in their family tree, but their image is that of a black person. That is what you see when you look at any person, their skin color. You do not see Obama as a white man. He does not look like an anglo-saxon white person.
when you see Blake Griffin from the NBA, they will call him what?? I'd call him just an athlete. There is nothing prominent there in regards to skin tone, and you know he is mixed. Same with many women on the cusp of offspring from 1 white/latino/asian and a black parent. Yes, it depends on the skin tone where you will classify yourself. There are even Latinos who can pass for Asian from their features. I know a latino with those features, who learned Mandarin, and travels there often and still interacts a lot with both races.
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