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"MOST Americans say tax rich to balance budget: poll": Yahoo!

  1. fishskinfreak2008 profile image30
    fishskinfreak2008posted 6 years ago

    Web-site/URL: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_taxes_poll

    Looks like DEMOCRATS still have at least SOME support

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image60
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, tax the wealthy, the providers, the job creators.....and then sit back in another two years wondering why you can't find a job.

      Hard to believe so many people could be that stupid, but then, we DID put a Community Organizer into the Oval Office....

      1. I am DB Cooper profile image69
        I am DB Cooperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        During the so-called "golden age" of the 1950's, the tax rate on the top tax bracket was over 90%. Jobs were still plentiful. Corporations create most jobs, not wealthy individuals.

        1. BillyDRitchie profile image60
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          And you find a 90% tax rate in the highest achievers acceptable?

          And who are corporations owned by?  (Get ready)......people with money.....

        2. habee profile image89
          habeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          But the U.S. has the second-highest corporate tax rate in the world. That's one reason companies build overseas.

        3. profile image61
          C.J. Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          There were incentives to small business during that time. The G.I. Bill was allowing for small business loans to returning vets. That was 15 Million people returning to the job market. Those men were needed in the conversion from war time to commercial industry. Small business has always been the largest employer, not large corporations.

      2. megs11237 profile image78
        megs11237posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        So Billy your saying Warren Buffet is stupid?

        How about these people?

        I'm in favor of higher taxes on people like me," declared Eric Schoenberg, who is sitting on an investment banking fortune. He complained about "my absurdly low tax rates."

        "We're calling on other wealthy taxpayers to join us," said paper-mill heir Mike Lapham, "to send the message to Congress and President Obama that it's time to roll back the tax cuts on upper-income taxpayers."

        For them, Obama's plan to "spread the wealth" (by raising taxes on families earning more than $250,000) is too conservative. "The Obama plan we don't think goes far enough," Lapham protested. "We think probably more like the top 5 percent should have their taxes raised." That would be those above $200,000. "Or go beyond that," he suggested.


        "I would with pleasure sacrifice the income," agreed millionaire entrepreneur Jeffrey Hollender.



        How about  we listen the rich people you care so much about?????

    2. profile image61
      C.J. Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      One problem with that. The top 1% pay the lions share of taxes already. What we need to do is find a way to encourage them to return their jobs and dollars to the US. I don't neccessarily mean by breaks either. I mean by what ever means neccessary.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        no no no.

        It's true: the rich pay the lion's share.

        But the solution isn't anything proposed on this forum. The solution is to ACTUALLY pay for things that you want.

        Government has NO INCENTIVE WHATSOEVER to actually pay for what they promise. One politician promises the sky, gets elected, then writes legislation, gets it passed.... oh, big surprise: he didn't think through the funding properly!

        Because the people proposing the legislation don't benefit from it, they don't think it through enough.

        Government can't create wealth, it can only steal it from the right hand and give it to the left.

        1. profile image61
          C.J. Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Pay for things you want. Thats great thinking. I even agree with it. HOWEVER, there is a Constitution. That Constitution allows for taxation. Get over it. Now, if you want to get strict with the taxation thats fine. I'm all for that too. You just have to be reasonable.

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, the constitution DOES allow for taxation.

            But I'm pretty sure that the founders would never have dreamed of a government that steals 35% of your wealth before you even see it.

            In fact, if I'm not mistaken, there was a specific clause in the document that said "no direct taxes".

            ...

            Oh, and one last thing. According to the very document you're citing, our money is illegal. We are only supposed to be using gold and silver.

        2. I am DB Cooper profile image69
          I am DB Cooperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I like that we can agree on something. The government is wasteful. Tax increases for the rich should coincide with legislation that guarantees the government will cut spending.

          Would you agree that we spend too much on the military (by far the government's greatest expense) and some cuts to defense could be part of an overall package to reduce spending?

          1. habee profile image89
            habeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I agree, and we're spending more under Obama than we did under Bush!

          2. profile image61
            C.J. Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Absolutely, tax cuts without spending cuts is crazy. Both are needed. In the short run you may even need tax increases and massive spending cuts to get the economy back on track.

          3. profile image61
            C.J. Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I personally would never agree with cutting Defense first. Social Security and Medicare have to go first. They are the root cause of our government spending problems. They were created based on one set of rules, billions were collected and then the government changed the rules and raided the kitty. WRONGO. I want that issue cleaned up first. The founding documents are clear on WHAT the government can collect taxes for.

            1. Doug Hughes profile image60
              Doug Hughesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              "Social Security and Medicare have to go first. "

              If you are collecting SS and using Medicare, I hope you will wake up. When conservatives talk about 'socialism' - it's programs you paid into your whole life - and depend on in your age - that are going to go FIRST.

              1. profile image61
                C.J. Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Doug, I understand that. However, LOOK at how it started and how it is now. The original plan is NOT being followed. Dollars collected for Social Security have NOT always been spent on Social Security. Medicare is fraud ridden. So is SSI.
                I would be happy to loose all I've paid in if I didn't have to worry with it anymore. I'm 40. I would be happy to keep it IF the government would get serious about cleaning up the fraud.

                1. megs11237 profile image78
                  megs11237posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I am wondering what you propose we do with the old poor people then?

                  How about the poor elderly that have yet to come because they have been making minimum wage their whole life?

              2. lovemychris profile image80
                lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Next will come disabled people and children who have debilitating diseases.
                As it is, in Kansas, single moms are giving their kids up to the state because they cut day-care funding and the moms can't afford day care on the wages they make. They have to give up their kids!!!....do you get what is happening here?
                They have handed the reigns to Beelzebub.


                Meanwhile, Ole Beck gets to make 35 mil instead of 33.....OH, the humanity.How could the poor man EVER survive on 33 mil?

                FOR SHAME.

                1. megs11237 profile image78
                  megs11237posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Hey remember how they used to put mentally handicapped people in hospitals and leaving them sitting in their own feces??

                  Lets go back to that, get rid of those entitled handicapped people.

                  1. profile image69
                    logic,commonsenseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    So how much of your cash are you giving to prevent this?

            2. thisisoli profile image55
              thisisoliposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Have you seen the charts for military spending recently?Both Bush and Obama have placed huge increases on military spending which is orrying in my opinion, and probably the root cause to America's financial woes.

              And if you look in to the funding fathers you will soon see that their policy was a 'hands off' America.

              1. Flightkeeper profile image79
                Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                If there was any truth to the "hands off" policy that the founding fathers wanted for us, it couldn't have been more evident than with World War I and every foreign war after that.  My country is still too stupid to learn from those mistakes.

    3. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Most Americans think that politicians are the country's biggest problem!

      http://www.cnsnews.com/node/69491#

      And in this Gallop Poll 79% of ALL Americans think the Federal Debt is a very serious problem!

      http://dailybail.com/home/gallup-poll-f … to-us.html

      These problems can't be fixed by taxing the rich alone. What is necessary is spending cuts and in this Gallop poll that is what most Americans want!

      http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/08/g … -spending/

      Americans have clearly rejected the Democrat strategy of government spending to stimulate the economy and absurd Keynesian economic policies! If they continue to choose this path the Democrats will be routed yet again in 2012!

      1. megs11237 profile image78
        megs11237posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I agree that spending cuts need to happen but does it ask where they agree they want cuts from or do you insert your ideas their?

        How about the poll where we also want to tax rich people?

  2. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    YAY!! Now they can repeal that stupid extending of the tax-breaks for the uber rich!! Since THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT IT.....right?

    Ha.

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image60
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Um, LMC, I'm lost here.....so we need ObamaCare because its the right thing to do, even if the American people don't want it.....but now, we need to tax the rich because a poll indicates that the American people want it.

      So which is it?  Does what the American people think matter or not?

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Billy - You have to read a little between the lines with lmc.  She does her homework but she also uses a bit of sarcasm.  And you'll never convince her that letting people keep their money is not related to government spending. 

        lmc - once again, government didn't spend money on tax cuts.  They just didn't get money.  After reading so many of your comments, I know you're not stupid.

        1. BillyDRitchie profile image60
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Sorry, I should be more aware of that, but sadly, it is extremely difficult to take someone who is so head over heels in love with government seriously......

        2. lovemychris profile image80
          lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          OK..here is what I think:
          You take more of middle income money to make up for what the Uber Rich don't pay.
          There are still bills to be paid and a gvt to be run. You take 70 million out of that pool per year, that's 70 mil you need to make up for.
          You say cut spending.....well, there is 70 million you wouldn't need to cut!
          And oh boohoo...such hardhip for Russsshhhhh to "make do" with 57 mil instead of 59. "Oh the pain!"

          And, I will bet you my right arm, all the cuts will come from the people who can least afford to be cut. Meanwhile, the Uber rich, corporations, banks will continue to profit like there's no tomorrow.

          Starve the Beast...kill the gvt. What's the name of that guy who has been preaching this since Clinton? He belongs to a Right-Wing think tank.

          I will also bet my left arm they have no intention of "creating" jobs....I think their intention is to bust up unions, pay much less in wages and profit more.

          And, of course, they will blame president Obama at every turn, so they can further their goal of making him a one term president.

          Any politician who cares about the working class will be smeared as a communist sympathiser/commie red diaper doper baby-- whatever it is they use to smear anyone who doesn't fall in line with the Corporate Masters.
          Poor get even poorer, middle falls further into poverty---Wealth at the top accumulates beyond measure.

          What are you trying to do, make us into Dubai?

          1. Jim Hunter profile image62
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            "I think their intention is to bust up unions"

            I sure hope so.

          2. BillyDRitchie profile image60
            BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            "I think their intention is to bust up unions, pay much less in wages and profit more."

            Oh, heaven forbid they (gasp!) make a profit.  How dare they. 

            You sound like that girl from University of Georgia complaining in the school paper about Wal-Mart:  "They sell products for more than it costs to produce them!"  Oh the humanity!

            1. lovemychris profile image80
              lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Care to take my concerns seriously? Or just make fun of them, like you righties always do.

              They more than make a profit. They suck the lives out of people so they can luxuriate.

              1. Jim Hunter profile image62
                Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Maybe you should follow the business model.

                Profits are gooooooood.

                1. lovemychris profile image80
                  lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  The "business model" is not what I remember reading in the Constitution of the United States of America.
                  No where is it to be found. So, I can only geuss that someone MADE IT UP.

                  1. Jim Hunter profile image62
                    Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Uhhhhhh, what?

      2. megs11237 profile image78
        megs11237posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What is the last poll on people who want repeal?

        WASHINGTON - American attitudes toward changes in health care laws are "all over the map," a Kaiser Family Foundation/Harvard School of Public Health survey reported Tuesday.

        While 28 percent want the 2010 health insurance law expanded, 19 percent said leave it alone, 23 percent backed repealing it and replacing with Republican ideas and 20 percent said repeal it, but don't replace it.

        Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/25/2 … z1C4nW59ZT


        Yea that is all Americans right??

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Don't tax, it's theft.

      Cut spending, it's liberty.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Aue contraire!!

        American people WANT rich to pay more...that's what "The American People Want"....that's why they elected Repubs...to give them "What the American People Want'

        Well....time to put up or shut up.

        1. Jim Hunter profile image62
          Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          This American people doesn't want that.

          One poll from yahoo should never I repeat never be considered anything more than wasted bandwidth.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            HA! This from the Poll Queens of America...The American people this, the American people that....they wouldn't know a people if they tripped over one.  All they know is money. All they care about is money.

            It will be their downfall. Because We are better than that!

            Now, off to make it possible for my boss and his family to Live in Luxury, while I struggle to make ends meet...Ah, the distorting of the American Dream.

            Tinkle down. All over.

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              You sound envious and bitter. Perhaps you should go to his competitor where I'm sure you can get a better wage!

              1. BillyDRitchie profile image60
                BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Man, if I were to discover that LMC worked for me, rest assured they would be terminated in short order.

                Ah, the beauty of a right to work state.....

                1. lady_love158 profile image60
                  lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I hear ya! It's hard to imagine with that attitude that she can keep any job! You think she'd be more grateful... oh well it takes all kinds to make a world!

                  1. couturepopcafe profile image60
                    couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    You gotta give her credit for keeping up her side of the argument though!  She'd be great in Congress.  There wouldn't be any way for the lobbyists to buy her off!  Gotta love it.

              2. Jim Hunter profile image62
                Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                lol

            2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this
          2. megs11237 profile image78
            megs11237posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            It wasn't a yahoo poll dude. It was reported on yahoo and other sites.

        2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I don't want rich people to pay more...

          ...I want to be taxed less.

          There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. No matter what Obama says.

          1. megs11237 profile image78
            megs11237posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Economically no matter how much you cut you will still need to have taxes to reduce the federal debt.

            That is economics speaking reality. It is what it is.

  3. ediggity profile image61
    ediggityposted 6 years ago

    Either way crap rolls down hill.  The people at the bottom are going to end up with a face full of it.  We should go with flat tax and be done with it.

    1. couturepopcafe profile image60
      couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Flat tax is an excellent idea but doesn't prevent government from raising the flat rate when they need more money.  We have got to cut them off from the cash cow.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        A flat tax solves nothing.

        The answer is to cut spending.

        YEs yes yes, everyone WANTS public education, health care, uber-military, medicaide and medicare, and diamonds

        BUT THOSE THINGS COST MONEY!!!!

        We still have policies in place from the 40s to help with the great depression!

  4. Evan G Rogers profile image82
    Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago

    CUT SPENDING

    CUT SPENDING

    CUT SPENDING

    CUT SPENDING!!!
    ------------
    Here's a play I just wrote:

    A: "Hey, we promised our constituents more than we can pay for... what should we do?"

    B: "Well, I think the only Honest thing to do is to say 'sorry, we promised more than we could deliver!', right?"

    A immediately shoots and kills B. He then deficates on the body and proceeds to bury the corpse.

    C: "I know, let's play on the idiotic assumptions that people have about the rich! Let's just try to inform the public that 'the rich' have lots of money! Let's try to convince all the sheep out there that 'the rich' didn't earn their money!"

    A: "Brilliant! Nothing like using ignorance to keep our jobs!"

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      LOL, no one responded to this? I thought this would generate some replies!

  5. sir slave profile image60
    sir slaveposted 6 years ago

    thats my thought as well....We need 1.5 trillion a year, or rougly 10 percent of the GNP, to pay for a health care system @ roughly $5000 a person per year.(which is what britain pays, roughly)

    1. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Very roughly, we spend 7.7% of GDP on healthcare.
      Balance that against the 16.2% of  GDP that you pay!

 
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