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What happen to Keith Obermann? Host of Countdown

  1. PJ Jones profile image61
    PJ Jonesposted 6 years ago

    Tonight toward the end of his show Keith  host of Countdown on MSNBC announced that this would be his last segment.  I was Shocked. He didn't explain why, or if he would be on another channel.  He calmly read Thurber, which he does every Friday.  At the end he asked the cameras for a wide screen shot and threw the papers as usual.

    I immediately went to the computer to see if there would be more information..there was not.  The way it was written was as if it just happen, he had a four year contract, of which only two years had been completed.  MSNBC stated they allowed him to get out of his contract.  This is really odd.

    Keith was my life line to truth and morality in political news.  I could always count on Keith to relay exactly what happens without taking things out of context or emblishing.  Keith  usually butted heads with Bill O'Reilly/The O'Reilly Factor(Fox), Sean Hannity (Hannity)Fox and the nut Glenn Beck also on Fox.
    Anyone out there know..please advice me..thanks.

    1. Stump Parrish profile image60
      Stump Parrishposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      http://hubpages.com/hub/Kooky-Keith-Gets-CANNED

      This indicates it was a decision made by comcast. Didn't know they had a political slant. Next thing you know fox will be the only "news"(cough, cough, choke) service you can log onto with comcast internet service.

    2. DTR0005 profile image86
      DTR0005posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I did enjoy his sarcasm, but he was biased. But then again, news has become more entertainment than news - at least in the last ten to twelve years. I always took his commentary with a giant block of salt. But there is no denying, like him or hate him, he was a smart and engaging personality.

  2. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    "Keith was my life line to truth and morality in political news."

    Me too. And I LIKED his humor!!! Where else can you go to hear someone say "That woman is an idiot" whenever Palin showed up?

    But, maybe he isn't the "tone it down" kind?
    Certainly none of the Fox people are!!

    But you know....Lawrence O'donnell is good too. He does not get pushed around by the bully crowd!

    Maybe Keith will show up somewhere else....

    Because Comcast was called "button-down conservative".......not exactly an Olbermann area smile

    1. Jim Hunter profile image61
      Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      ""Keith was my life line to truth and morality in political news."".

      That explains quite a bit.

      1. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        That's right;

        "Olbermann’s departure is certain to disappoint legions of fans who viewed him as standing up to the conservative establishment.
        He was radicalized by the abuses of the Bush administration and the Iraq War."

        No one else on TV was speaking up to them!! All we had was the cheerleading from Fox, and the down-playing by the msm.
        Olbermann spoke truth to power, when no one else would.

        1. Jim Hunter profile image61
          Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          "Olbermann’s departure is certain to disappoint legions of fans"

          Does 12 make a legion?

          1. Flightkeeper profile image79
            Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            13 if you count his twitter follower.

            1. Jim Hunter profile image61
              Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I forgot the twit...my bad

          2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
            uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            If he had "legions"  he would have been worth any amount of money to MSNBC.  Only after decades of trouble making and FCC fines Howard Stern has made millions for satellite radio.  Maybe Olberman will make that transition and prove how much he is worth in the free market place.  Oh, wait, he already did and it was much less than he expected.  Well at least he can sit on his butt for 99 weeks before making a "comeback."  Perhaps by then enough people will have forgotten what a maniac he is and watch him again.

  3. Ken Crow profile image61
    Ken Crowposted 6 years ago

    Keith went away simply because " Keith was unable " to speak the truth and his viewership was in the toilet. Fox News " Bill O'Reilly" has more viewers than that off MSNBC and CNN combined! Yes it is true, refer to Nielson Ratings. Keith was abrassive, rude and in general a spineless progressive liberal and the viewers could not stand it...He lies, and he lies more. That is why he is no longer on the air and I doubt seriously he will get another gig...Good bye Mr. Olbermann...

    1. shogan profile image87
      shoganposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I'm about as moderate as one gets, but I think we should all agree that speaking the truth and getting ratings have little to do with one another.

      1. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I agree with you, but the Fox watchers DO believe they are hearing the truth!!!

        And they also believe that calling for people to be "shot in the head" is no worse than calling Palin an idiot.

        1. shogan profile image87
          shoganposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I think it's human nature to believe what is easiest to believe, regardless of one's politics.  The shame of contemporary society is that we too often feel like we have to pigeon-hole the "other" in order to define ourselves.

          Naturally, I have opinions like anyone else, but I usually feel like my opinions are far less important than attempting to see where others are coming from.

      2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
        uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Really I thought truth was determined by majority vote and there is no more responsive and constantly active voting system than a free market place.  Olberman lost in a free market place, perhaps the most free market place (outside of radio).  Viewers vote with their time and he lost the vote. 

        If people are incapable of determining the "truth" or where they should invest their own interests, efforts, opinions and votes than perhaps we should hand ourselves over to a ruling elite and go plow the kings fields.

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Oh! You gave that one up a bit easily didn't you?

          1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
            uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You see I do believe that people are capable, with sufficient information, to decide best where to place their own personal, individual efforts.  If we reject that notion we re-embrace the tyrant.

          2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
            uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I thought you Brits were experts on sarcasm?

        2. shogan profile image87
          shoganposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Truth should be determined by the individual.  Reality, on the other hand, is usually determined by the majority.  If our truth and the majority opinion align, well, that's a lucky day.

    2. wbfree profile image60
      wbfreeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I agree except that I believe he will get another job somewhere. He does sports commentating, and there's probably some other liberal waste-yard that will put him back on the air.

  4. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    Well, sometimes you have ample evidence of "where people are coming from", and if you think it is wrong, that is enought to make you stick to your convictions. (I wanted to say guns)

    IF you have a whole host of people saying things that you know are not true, but they are repeated and repeated and repeated and there is no opposing place for you to go.....it's a one-sided affair!

    And I HOPE that is not what is coming with this Comcast take-over....another right-leaning tv station!
    Or even a "fair and balanced" one.

    If we have a far right place for far-righties, we need a far left one for the lefties as well!

  5. Stacie L profile image86
    Stacie Lposted 6 years ago

    Corporate America has been buying up media and news outlets and Ralph Nader has an interesting article warning the public about this..
    http://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.c … n-america/

  6. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 6 years ago

    I won't miss Keith. I like O'Donnell much better. Now, if we can just get rid of Beck and Rush!

    1. wbfree profile image60
      wbfreeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Get rid of Beck and Rush? lol Liberals wish!

      If you don't like them, all you have to do is change the station, change the channel, or simply turn the radio or t.v. off. Then go about your business. Good grief. roll

      1. Jim Hunter profile image61
        Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        "Get rid of Beck and Rush? lol  Liberals wish!"

        Liberals and one moderate republican apparently.

  7. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 6 years ago

    This sheds more light on Keith's problems:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- … countdown/

  8. Hugh Williamson profile image88
    Hugh Williamsonposted 6 years ago

    I'm wondering if he might have gotten into hot water for his surprising anti-Obama rant (about selling out to the rich in the Bush tax bill extension).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1eSYLAODE

    He is well respected as a sports announcer and that may be his next gig. Or, maybe after taking some time off, he may be back. It happened once before.

    1. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No way. Insulting Obama is BIG bucks!

  9. I am DB Cooper profile image67
    I am DB Cooperposted 6 years ago

    The timing of this (right after the NBC/Comcast merger) is suspicious. Perhaps he couldn't work for a company involved in one of the most troubling mergers of our time.

  10. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    I have Comcast as a provider, and I don't understand them.
    They bill you 1 month ahead, so your current bill is what you owe for this month and the next one combined. Makes no sense.

    Pay me today for a hamburger next week!

    Anyway---you may be right DB....or he just couldn't "clean up" like they wanted him too....which is dam ironic, because he never suggested shooting people!

    But Bill Maher thinks when he ended "worst persons", it was over.

    Well, Big Ed says he won't change.....I hope so.

  11. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    "liberal waste-yard" ---ya see how they don't practice what they preach!!!

    Nice, remember....Beck TOLD you!!

    Must be nice    must be nice     must be nice     
    no more kill kill kill kill kill kill...............


    But hey--at least Russshhhhhhh is now officially an idiot. As if he wasn't before. That Chinese rant of his was embarrasing.

  12. Flightkeeper profile image79
    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago

    Keith Olbermann was kicked off the air?!

    Hallelujah!!!! lol  This year is gonna be better than I thought. I have to feel sorry for the Libbies, now that their deranged leader is gone they won't know what to think. lol lol

    Of course I'm gonna miss those lefty rants.  They were incredibly amusingly laughable.

  13. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    At least they weren't scary nuts.


    shoot in the head
    strangle with my bare hands
    pour gasoline down Pelosi's throat


    Yeah.....worst person in the world was vile compared to that! wink

  14. Flightkeeper profile image79
    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago

    As usual you don't make any sense to me, but that's okay. As long as you know what you're talking about.

    1. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      google "Glenn Beck's violent rhetoric"...educate yourself.

      1. Flightkeeper profile image79
        Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Your violent rhetoric examples are one-sided and there's plenty of evidence that the lefturds have violent rhetoric but I knew that and I'm kicking myself again for responding to your posts.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
          Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          "lefturds" Not very polite.

          I bet you'll like this one. You can pass it on to your KKK friends.
          http://open.salon.com/blog/keka/2010/10 … _with_guns

          1. Flightkeeper profile image79
            Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I resent and see it as a personal attack that you think I would associate with Ku Klux Klan members.  I've reported you.

            1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
              uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I find that equally offensive but am not surprised at all by the lengths some scoundrels will go when their wits run out.

              1. Flightkeeper profile image79
                Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I don't mind the namecalling, some of it is just all in fun and I can take it.  But I draw the line on this one.

                1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                  uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I will defend to the death a man's right to speak his mind, regardless of whether I agree with him.  The line for me is being called a racist.

                  Oh, by the way, wasn't this all about Kieth Olberman.  Last time I checked he was white and German - twist that as you will.

                  1. Flightkeeper profile image79
                    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I would defend any person's right to free political speech.  Calling me a racist is not political speech.

            2. Ralph Deeds profile image69
              Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Liberal "lefturds" is okay. KKK friends is offensive?

              1. Flightkeeper profile image79
                Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I have nothing to say to you.

              2. PrettyPanther profile image84
                PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Typical female conservative of late; they like to dish it out then play the victim when it gets dished back at 'em.

                1. Flightkeeper profile image79
                  Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  You're just angry because I didn't believe you when you said you ran a business.  I looked at your profile, you work for a government agency, it's your boyfriend who ran a ranch.  And if you don't have a clue about what's obviously going on here, there's nothing I can do to enlighten you.

                  1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                    uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Do you know how to starve a rancher(works for farmers, too)?  Blow up their mailbox that way the subsidy checks stop.

                  2. PrettyPanther profile image84
                    PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    LOL!  Watch out, that classy side of yours is showing.

                    The bison ranch was my idea, is in my name, and 70% of the capital invested is mine.  No subsidies from the government, not even a loan. I know it's hard for your tiny closed mind to grasp, but it's true. 

                    And, I am not mad.  I'm just going to call you out on your little game every time I see you play it.

                    But thanks for having me re-read my profile.  I'm married now so I'll need to change that.  smile

                2. lovemychris profile image79
                  lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Yes--their big one is to say if you disagree with them, you hate America.
                  Extremely offensive, and used big time during Bushco to silence dissent.

                  Same MO today......if you're not with us, you're against America.

  15. John Holden profile image60
    John Holdenposted 6 years ago

    "Lefturds"  Hm, setting a really fine example there aren't you?

    1. Flightkeeper profile image79
      Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you!

  16. uncorrectedvision profile image60
    uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago

    He asked for more than he was worth and MSNBC let him go instead of paying for the extra cheese on his medium pizza.

  17. Flightkeeper profile image79
    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago

    If obermann still had his show I can see him nominating the president of MSNBC the Worst Person in the World! lol

  18. Ralph Deeds profile image69
    Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago

    What happened to Keith Olbermann is the same thing that happened to Phil Donohue for speaking out on Iraq and the Smothers Brothers and Pete Seeger for criticizing the government on Vietnam. Comcast which has bought NBC denies having anything to do with it. Based on my experience with Comcast I trust them even less than NBC.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Seriously?  Seriously?  Seriously, you are comparing the vacuous Phil Donahue and the rabid, frothing, madman, Kieth Olberman to the Smothers Brothers?  Really?  Honestly?

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
        Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The Smothers Brothers and Pete Seeger were fired for speaking out on the Vietnam war. Donohue was silenced by NBC for spealing out on the Iraq invasion, and NBC and the other networks treated us to nightly commercials for the invasion of Iraq by neocon "experts" selected by the Pentagon or Cheney's goons. I'm not sure why Olbermann was fired. He spoke out against a lot of things--Iraq, Afghanistan and others. He hadn't been getting along with NBC management for some time.

        1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
          uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You mean Donahue wasn't dismissed because he is increasingly irrelevant in a world in which he no longer fits and cannot draw flies if the putrefaction of his world view wasn't washed away by Marlo's association with St. Jude's?

          1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
            uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I ran into Knuckles and Lefty - oops I mean - Righty at a Dick Cheney's goons reunion the other day - they miss the old days when we put on our brown shirts and arm bands and kicked in front doors and knocked heads together at NBCCBSABCCNNMSNBCTIMENEWSWEEKNYTIMESLATIMESWASHINGTONPOST and made them all toe the line or else.

          2. Ralph Deeds profile image69
            Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Increasingly irrelevant? Donohue was prescient enough to realize that invading Iraq was a huge mistake. When he said so he was broomed. He was smarter than the foreign policy establishment--Washington Post, NY Times, Council on Foreign Relations, et al. They permitted the issue to be framed incorrectly--i.e., if Iraq had WMD we had not choice to invade; if Iraq didn't have WMD there was no need to invade. This was wrong. We had lived for 60 years previously with Russia and China's thousands of nuclear weapons ready to launch at the U.S. 24-7. Iraq had neither motive nor means to deliver WMD at the U.S. We survived nicely without Bush's cockamamie "premptive war" policy edict. The result--30,000+ Ameican soldiers and 100,000 Iraqis killed, half the Christians driven out of the country, and a destabilized Iraq aligned with Iran. Donohue was smart enough to forsee this and you're saying he's irrelevant? Gimme a break!

  19. jokeapptv profile image60
    jokeapptvposted 6 years ago

    i almost got rid of my satellite tv because of that channel.
    i dont like paying to hear the stuff that came out his mouth or others on that channel. i even called the satellite tv people. they agreeded with me and so did a few cable tv reps that came by the house. karma i think

    1. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Funny--you can get Fox for free with your basic cable. MSNBC you have to pay x-tra for!!!

      Funny huh?
      Geuss they want to make it easier for you to watch Fox than MSNBC.

      Errr, WHICH liberal media????

      1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
        BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Um, cable providers are different from media outlets, love.  They most likely chose the most popular cable news network for availability on basic because it will draw more customers.

        That pesky capitalism, anything for a profit thing again, I know....

  20. PrettyPanther profile image84
    PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago

    I think all this speculation might be premature.  From what I've read, it was likely that Olbermann wanted out to pursue other interests.

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "to pursue other interests."

      This usually translates...."he got fired".....

      1. PrettyPanther profile image84
        PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Sometimes it translates to that.  I don't think so in this case. 

        LMC, I don't think there is any evidence that censorship had anything to do with Olbermann leaving MSNBC.  I have a feeling that KO will have greater freedom to pursue his interests now that he is free from them.

  21. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Holy carp (as Brenda would say).
    It's one thing to disagree with/question someone's political views as expressed here.
    To question someone's personal business experience based solely on what is (or is not) written in their Hub Pages profile is assuming a LOT.
    But you know what they say about never "assume" -- because it makes an ASS out of U and Me lol

    1. Flightkeeper profile image79
      Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      A lesson the libturds never seem to learn.

      1. Jim Hunter profile image61
        Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Speaking of Brenda I haven't seen her for awhile.

        Has she been banned?

        1. Flightkeeper profile image79
          Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Haven't seen her either.  Don't know of any banning.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image61
            Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I don't always agree with her religious theories but she sticks to her guns.

      2. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Gosh, another impressive winning argument! I'm in awe!

        1. Flightkeeper profile image79
          Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Stick around, you haven't seen anything yet.

  22. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    This exchange between jim and flighty answers Quarks' question on another thread....Are Dolphins smarter than humans?


    I'd have to say you can see the answer to that one!!  smile

    1. PrettyPanther profile image84
      PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      smile

  23. ahorseback profile image47
    ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

    I dont know whats wrong with you guys , not understanding MSNBC , I had them figured out when IMUS was fired.

  24. BillyDRitchie profile image61
    BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago

    Any chance that MSNBC just woke up and said "Hey, this guy is getting eaten alive in the ratings....we need somebody who can, oh I don't know....GET VIEWERS!".

    Or does that make too much sense?

  25. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    It makes no sense.
    He's the one who got the ratings up. If you read that article habee linked to, it said that MSNBC has always had a problem with him, because he's "uncontrollable". They now feel fine with getting rid of him, because the audience is there....thanks to him.

    Maybe he wanted to leave too, because he knows what is coming.....it all spells censorship of liberals, while the right sails on--saying whatever they feel like.

    It is as it has always been.

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You're kidding, right?  Olbermann got the ratings up?  When Bill O'Reilly pulls more viewers in his time slot than MSNBC and CNN combined? 

      And where is this censorship of liberals?  Almost every cable news network and most certainly the big 3 network news outfits have a decidedly left bent.

      I'd love for you to find a single conservative who is in favor of eliminating liberal free speech.

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The pornographer-in-chief Rupert Murdoch.

        1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Then perhaps you can explain why Murdoch has no problem hiring liberals to be a part of Fox News?

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            In the early eighties I knew several left wing journos who worked for right wing newspapers.
            They wrote copy with a left slant and the sub-editors edited it to a right wing slant.

            1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
              BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Um, perhaps they wrote it with a left slant and the editors simply removed the left slant.

              In many leftist circles that would be enough to qualify as right wing journalism.....

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Um, they could have, but they didn't.

      2. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Helen Thomas and Rick Sanchez got fired.....not really liberals, but it was a Politically Correct Issue...shhhhhhhh.

        Meanwhile, Limbutt can call Obama a jack-Ass and Beck can say he hates white people.

        "Almost every cable news network and most certainly the big 3 network news outfits have a decidedly left bent."

        Which ones are against the wars? Which ones are for the public option? Which ones called for an investigation into the Bush administration?

        None.

        1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Helen Thomas retired after the firestorm following her comments about Jews.  She is free to say that, but as with any speech, their may be repercussions.  In no way does that mean she cannot speak her mind.

          And yes, Rush and Beck can say what they wish, it is their opinion and their right.  Just because you disagree does not mean that they should not be allow to say it.

          Um, news organizations ideally should not be for or against wars or public option or any other subject... they are there to report the news.  If you want somebody to be in favor of something, then check out an opinion show, which both Olbermann and Hannity are.

          1. TamCor profile image79
            TamCorposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            That is something I've been wondering about--ARE there ANY news organizations that are not biased one way or another? I would really like to know the answer, so I can check them out. smile

            I mean one that both sides can agree on is neutral...if that's possible... big_smile

            1. Aya Katz profile image88
              Aya Katzposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Both sides? Are there only two sides?

              1. TamCor profile image79
                TamCorposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                lol...Obviously, I meant Republican/Democrat, because so many are so far apart in their views...but the Tea Party and any others are quite welcome to chime in, too!   big_smile

                1. PrettyPanther profile image84
                  PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I don't know, call me weird but I don't think news should be about reporting sides; it should be about reporting the truth whatever that might be.

                  I don't think any of the major US news outlets do a great job of that.

                  1. TamCor profile image79
                    TamCorposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I agree--that's why I asked the question! smile

            2. BillyDRitchie profile image61
              BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I'd say CNN and Fox are the most balanced as far as their news reporting......their bias becomes apparent in their choice of op ed shows.....

              1. TamCor profile image79
                TamCorposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Thanks Billy--Those are the two we tend to view the most!

          2. lovemychris profile image79
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Helen Thomas said: "You can say whatever you want about president Obama, but in America--you cannot criticize Israel." That is censorship.
            Sanchez....what did he say that was so offensive? He got fired, for what? If that's not censorship, what is?

            And no one has  answered why The Bush FCC fined Stern out of a job on commercial radio.
            They were going to SHUT STATIONS DOWN that played him! Not censorship?

            And you said that the top 3 news organizations are left-leaning. How?

            I kind of think "toning it down" IS censorship.....whether Olbermann took it upon himself or not. He seems to be the only one practicing that.....

            If you say they all have the right to say what they want...then bring open sex talk back to commercial radio and TV---and put those 7 swear words back into play!

            1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
              BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Um, actually you can say whatever you wish about Israel, nobody is stopping you.  Helen Thomas can still say whatever she wishes as well.

              I'm free to call my boss a goat buggering pervert.....he is equally free to unceremoniously show me the door.  There are consequences that come with free speech.

              Rick Sanchez also offered unflattering critiques of his employers, which he is free to do, but nothing says his employers have to continue to pay him for the privilege.

              And I'm hoping Howard Stern needs no explanation.

 
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