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points from the health care bill...true?

  1. SparklingJewel profile image67
    SparklingJewelposted 5 years ago



    Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - HB3200 highlighted pages most egregious
    Please read this........ especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

    JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

    ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

    ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

    ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

    ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

    ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

    ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

    ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

    ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

    ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

    HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on:

    "Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future."

                     Honorable David Kithil
                     Marble Falls, Texas

    All of the above should give you the point blank ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

  2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
    Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago

    I'm surprised no one else is commenting on this.

    This bill is clearly unconstitutional, thanks for posting this!

    1. KeithTax profile image79
      KeithTaxposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Unforunately the bill does not say what you wrote. Perhaps you should read the real bill that passed.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        it's 2000 pages long... I ain't got the time

  3. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    According to snopes.com, this line-item critique was written before the bill that was sent for vote was created. Many elements were changed prior to the version that went to Congress.


    1. Doug Hughes profile image60
      Doug Hughesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      So we have another bogus wingnut post - this one built on a false argument.

    2. uncorrectedvision profile image59
      uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Were we not told that "We have to pass the bill to find out what is in it??"

      the following video clip has nothing to do with this response - I just love it so much - those Brits used to have their act together.


  4. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    "The Pinocchio Test

    The lesson here is that facts need to come from reputable, credible sources, not an email chain. Kithil is in many ways an innocent bystander. He never claimed to be an expert and merely offered his opinion to the local newspaper. There are many critiques of the health care law, both from the left and right, which have been written by health care and legislative experts. That's where people need to go for more information.

    Four Pinocchios--not to Kithil, but to anyone who keeps forwarding this email."

    Another piece of "Beckian" news. Not much basis in truth, but PLENTY of propaganda!

  5. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    And not for anything, but...
    Google search for Hon. David Kithil of Marble Falls Texas brought up NOTHING but various postings of this letter.
    So I decided to do my own sleuthing.
    Judge Kithil is not a member of the judicial section of the Texas State Bar. I find that quite odd, since there are many, many other judges on the members' list.
    I also checked ALL of the courts for Marble Falls, Texas and Burton County, Texas.
    Not district, county or municipal court. Not even a justice of the peace.
    I thought I might have found him as a federal judge. There is a Judge David HITTNER but he is in Houston, not Marble Falls...


  6. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    Just face it....anything coming from the right might as well be called Psy-Op News. smile

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image59
      uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I am pretty sure there is a national exercise program in there.


  7. WuldUStilRemebrMe profile image60
    WuldUStilRemebrMeposted 5 years ago