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Caller posing as David Koch dupes Walker in call

  1. PrettyPanther profile image85
    PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago

    A journalist with the website buffalobeast.com was able to get through to Walker, who won't take phone calls from Democrats, by posing as David Koch.  He got the idea after reading a quote from state Sen. Tim Carpenter: 



    From the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel ( http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/ … tml?page=1):



    If you read the entire article and listen to the audio, you will hear Walker going into great detail about his plans.  Do you think Walker would have given an ordinary citizen that many details about his position on the union negotiations?  To me, it was almost like an employee providing an update to his boss.

    1. I am DB Cooper profile image66
      I am DB Cooperposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      "They're probably putting hobos in suits. That's what we do... sometimes"
      - Fake David Koch

      LOL. I can't believe Walker didn't have anything to say about that. Then Walker goes on and on about how he'll make an effort to talk with Democrats, but then reveals it's just a trick to get them to come back in the state so he can get his legislation passed.

    2. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Walker said nothing that he hadn't already said in public. You libs sure are good at distraction. Why don't you talk about all the stimulus money tha WI got to support teachers retirement and health care benefits... more democrat corruption!!!

      1. PrettyPanther profile image85
        PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Nice of you to parrot Walker's spokesperson.  I'm sure he appreciates you spreading the word.

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Nice of you to conviently avoid pointing out where im wrong.

          1. PrettyPanther profile image85
            PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Sigh.  The point is not about whether he has said in public what he said in the phone.  The point is that he readily accepted a call from David Koch and discussed his efforts to deny collective bargaining in great detail with a person who should have no say in it whatsoever.

            But, you won't acknowledge that, will you?

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I'll acknowlege Walker had a conversation with Koch but I don't see the gotcha here. Walker has made no secret of his desire to eliminate collective bargining from public employees as he should! Its state sanctioned money laundering for the democrat party... its inappropriate and its wrong and should be illegal! Honestly I can't understand why you libs can't see this! Even your hero FDR could see it!

              1. DTR0005 profile image85
                DTR0005posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                You don't see the gotcha.. are you kidding me???? I listened to it twice and each time the "fake Koch" threw out the bait, Walker ate the worm. "Do you want us to send some troublemakers?" the "Fake Koch" asks... Govenor doesn't bat an eye and essentially says, 'I don't think that will work this time..."
                Lady Love... the jig is up - I mean seriously. These are the governor's own words - no one made him "spill his guts." Most of the twenty minutes was Walker talking - not the "Fake Koch."
                No one but the idealogically blind ever thought this was simply about money and state deficits. Walker had a surplus when he went into office, then cut taxes and found himself in the red... I mean come on -

              2. DTR0005 profile image85
                DTR0005posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                "We'll fly you out to CA when this is over...." - Fake Kock-
                "Sounds wonderful..." - Walker... Wow....

  2. lady_love158 profile image60
    lady_love158posted 5 years ago
    1. DTR0005 profile image85
      DTR0005posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You know Lady, I agree with some of what your girl (I think lol) Ann Coulter has to say. I could never really understand, in particular, why teachers were unionized and it has its downside. And my wife is a teacher. But if you or anyone else thinks they are overpaid, well, that may not be the case. It all depends on where you live. The upside traditionally for being a public employee has been the benefits - not the salary. And I have never argued that public employees shouldn't pay more for their benefits. My bone is with the doing away of collective bargaining.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        There has never been collective bargining! Bargining implies groups with opposing interests negotiating a compromise.... with public service unions no one represents the employer! I don't care what a teacher makes... they should earn what the market is willing to pay... the problem is they aren't exposed to the market!

  3. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    " I could never really understand, in particular, why teachers were unionized and it has its downside. And my wife is a teacher." Student accuses teacher of some made up nonsense. Students family takes the student's side. Teacher denies accusation. Student is a con-artist. Principle and staff take the student's side. What is a teacher to do without a union to back them and do an investigation?

    1. Ralph Deeds profile image68
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Teachers unionize for the same reasons any workers unionize--to have a say in their terms and conditions of employment and to provide a mechanism to correct the injustices in treatment that occur in every workplace, union and non-union.ss

      If you were a teacher you would have no problem understanding why teachers unionize, especially if you were teaching in a large, urban, centralized, bureaucratized, top heavy, hierarchical district.

    2. DTR0005 profile image85
      DTR0005posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Good point.. that is a very GOOD reason.

  4. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    " the problem is they aren't exposed to the market!" What is the market private schools?

 
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