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Obama's 2012 Political Strategy

  1. lady_love158 profile image61
    lady_love158posted 5 years ago

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 … TopOpinion

    Pretend the economy is growing, print money to boost the market and maintain that illusion, pretend he is actually doing something to reduce the deficit while sitting back and forcing the republicans to make the tough decisions, then cast the republicans as heartless ogres that want to cut everything that moves! It's disgusting that this spineless excuse for a leader cares so little about this country and its people that he would put his reelection above what's right and what needs to be done for this country!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I agree.
      Well, supposedly, Robert Gibbs turned his position over to a younger clone, just so he can work on Obama's re-election campaign.   That's gonna be even nastier than the first one, I'd be willing to bet.

    2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      ...as you see it.  Of course that's not the way people who love America see it.

  2. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    That's what they ran on in 2010 and that's what they came to Congress to do. Slash and burn.

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    SarahPalinposted 5 years ago

    2012 is just around the corner.

  4. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    The nastiness in 2008 was on McCain/Palin's side. Palin has kept up a steady stream of badmouthing Obama since.
    So if she ends up getting the GOP nod, then yeah, expect even more nastiness in 2012.

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      SarahPalinposted 5 years ago in reply to this



      Tit for Tat.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Speaking of tat...

  5. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    Well, well. Look what the cat dragged in. I thought you went "overseas to mull presidential run"???

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      SarahPalinposted 5 years ago in reply to this



      They have internet everywhere dontcha know.

  6. Doug Hughes profile image59
    Doug Hughesposted 5 years ago

    The teabaggers ran on the promise they would cut 100 Billion from THIS YEARS BUDGET. They went after Planned Parenthood,  about 75 million, not Billion. And they went after Public Broadcasting, (gunning for Big Bird) which will net 500 million (not Billion). So they are short 99 BILLION, and change. And they think President Obama will find it for them????

    This 100 Billion is the goal the teabaggers set, not Obama. He's not going to find it. This is YOUR campaign promise to keep, not his. The US House of Representatives is pandering to the evangelical base which plays well - with the base. Moderates were willing to give the teabaggers a shot. Fine.  The moderate voters are looking to the House to deliver. You have 99 Billion to go. YOU FIND IT! YOU TAKE THE HEAT FOR IT! 

    Do the math. You teabagger math-impaired windbags are going to have to go big-game hunting. Defense appropriations, Homeland Security, Medicare, Social Security and Veterans Benefits. Go for it! Then try to get re-elected.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      That's what's known as a personal attack.

  7. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    Amazing, isn't it? She's here for five minutes and she's already talking about body parts lol
    As one of our dear hubber friends would say, "Shame on you!"

  8. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    I kinda like the strategy Obama's employing myself.
    He proposed his budget.
    As you said, Doug, they rejected it.
    The ball (or I guess I should say the machete)is in the tea bagger's court.

    1. Doug Hughes profile image59
      Doug Hughesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The 'ball' is now $99 BILLION (and change). That's the size of the task the teabaggers set for themselves. They promised the voter it was there in 'wasteful spending'. They found less than one percent of their goal in programs despised by teabaggers but more popular with moderate voters who look favorably on women's health issues and public broadcasting, having grown up with Bert, Ernie & Big Bird.

      Now they must move against programs near & dear the hearts of their base. The socialistic programs of Social Security & Medicare. Oooops. When Grandma finds out she can't have a powered scooter or needed surgery in order to preserve the wealth of the very wealthy, the lunacy of the Tea Party will be as obvious to Seniors as it is to progressive.

      What's ridiculous is the efforts of the wingnuts to present their failure to meet their goal as the fault of democrats, as if the opposition party was responsible to accomplish 99% of the teabagger's task.

      1. PrettyPanther profile image85
        PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hehehehehe, the Tea Party, who are really just Republicans who renamed themselves to seem different, finally have to act upon their wholly unrealistic philosophy.

        Hehehehehehe.

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hey PrettyPanther,

          Tea Party = The Tinkerbell Party. Nothing more than cartoon characters who claim to have a moral foundation of characters that are for the people in appearance only. lol lol

  9. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    No kidding, Doug! They're turning on themselves in droves.
    But, still being the party of "NO!" it is unclear how -- or who -- they believe CAN solve the deficit. Perhaps the logical answer is not to try to solve it in a single year? roll

    Americans Rapidly Losing Confidence In GOP's Ability To Reduce The Deficit
    Jon Terbush | March 17, 2011, 9:58AM902
       
    The freshly installed Republican majority in the House of Representatives is getting a rude wakeup call as they transition from campaigning to governing.

    Amid enormous voter discontent with the Democratic status quo and with concern running high over the economy last November, voters handed the keys over to Republicans, giving them a crack at dealing with government spending and the national deficit.

    Yet just two months into the new Congress, self-identified Republicans and Independents -- and particularly Tea Party sympathizers -- have already lost a great deal of faith in the GOP's ability to come up with a better approach to solving those problems, according to a newly released Pew poll of adults nationwide.

    In the poll, 21% of Americans said they believed Congressional Republicans had a better approach to the deficit than did President Obama, while 20% felt the reverse. In addition, 52% said there wasn't much difference between Obama and the GOP House.

    That's a sharp reversal from last November, when 35% said the GOP had better plan, compared to 24% who said Obama knew best how to deal with the deficit.
    ...the poll shows Republicans and independents turning away from the GOP in huge numbers.

    In November, almost seven in ten Republicans believed the GOP had a strong plan for dealing with the deficit. That number has fallen to 52% now, a 17-point drop.
    Among Independents, that swing was 20 points, form 37% down to a measly 17%.

    And Tea Party sympathizers, whose engagement played an important factor in the GOP's electoral success last year, have turned on Republicans in even greater numbers. Three-fourths of tea partiers thought Republicans had a god plan for the deficit last November -- just over half feel the same way now, a 24-point turnaround.

    The Pew poll was conducted March 10-13 among 1,001 adults nationwide. It has a margin of error of 4.0%

  10. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 5 years ago

    Another pathetic thread about one side of the political spectrum, when both sides only want to control and nothing more.

    Wake UP People!

    1. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I hear you say that a lot, Cags.  What, exactly, does "waking up" entail, in your opinion?

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, you do. And I'll continue to say it.
        It means it is time to stop squabbling over one side versus the other and find a collective solution to the problems facing America. The people are supposedly in power and that power is never utilized as it should be. smile

  11. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    To be fair, it's not like people think the Dems can do the job any better. The point is the very idea of cutting $99 BILLION in one year is so ludicrous in the first place.

    But I do want to ask you. Are you turning libertarian? Have you been secretly hanging out with Evan G Rodgers roll?

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You're correct, neither side can handle the job. So what's your point? It's been proven time and time again that both sides fail to do anything meaningful to help move America's society forward. Both side just create distortion/distraction and misinformation, so citizens cannot be on a common ground and do anything productive. Divide and conquer. wink
      I'm not for either say and I'm saddened to even hear you mention a label with regards to my political statements. I can see that you've not read any of my political/America hubs. And, that saddens me also. sad
      Evan isn't a liberal. He is an anarchist. wink And, to insinuate I've been hanging out with such a person, is yet another sad thought. sad

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image81
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        "It's been proven time and time again that both sides fail to do anything meaningful to help move America's society forward. "

        Wurd to that.

        But let's take it one step further: WHY can't either party fix things? Is it because the system that they operate in doesn't provide for the solutions that need to be made?

        PS - I'm a cool guy. I feel sorry that you have NOT hung out with me.

    2. lady_love158 profile image61
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I can cut 100 billion in the blink of an eye... eliminate the department of education!
      There fixed it! Next!

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, and at the same time, let the wealthy really have control of those who wouldn't be educated. Utterly ridiculous.

        1. lady_love158 profile image61
          lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You really need a lesson in consistency... didn't you just tell me education funding should be local? Then why should the feds be involved besides education is not in the constitution!

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Local government, not federal government. Please do try to keep up. smile

            Cutting 100 billion from Federal spending on military, didn't imply that the money would go to education. Again, do try to keep up.

            1. lady_love158 profile image61
              lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              The dept of education is FEDERAL you simply must pay attention.

              1. Cagsil profile image60
                Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                The Dept of Education should be State level and no higher. Are you just not paying attention or what?

      2. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        On second note- want to cut 100 billion, easy- reduce government spending on military expenditures by 10% or more. wink

        1. lady_love158 profile image61
          lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          That goes without saying although you'd need to cut more than 10%. We spend over 700 billion on defense and half of our descretionary spending is defense as well... we could easily cut both 10% probably more!

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            That would depend on what exactly the discretionary spending was paying for. wink

            1. lady_love158 profile image61
              lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              It pays for the wars.

              1. Cagsil profile image60
                Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Then I'd agree, it should be cut, providing that's all it's paying for.

  12. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fanny-pack-sm.jpg

    Don't let the soggy tea bags hit ya on the way out!

    1. canadawest99 profile image59
      canadawest99posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Obama's strategy is simple.  Let the GOP field their pathetic batch of potential candidates and let them implode, win the election and then retake the house and then finally set america on its right course in the last 2 years of his presidency.  This could all happen 5 years sooner but fools who can't handle a black president and still think its 1959 keep sending tea baggers and repugs back in there who only know how to rape the country for special interests and corporations.

  13. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    Duly noted, Cags.
    Although I did not say Evan is a liberal. I said he is a libertarian. But that is also incorrect. He is an anarchist, as you pointed out.
    The hanging out with Evan was intended as a joke. I hope you did not take offense, as (I hope) you know I respect you, like you, and would never intentionally diss you.
    Well, maybe sometimes I might do this tongue

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lol

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image81
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      ... you're apologizing to him because you insinuated that he hung out with me?

      ... wow...

      Screw HubPages.

      1. Doug Hughes profile image59
        Doug Hughesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Don't go away mad.

        Just go away.

  14. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago

    http://donmilleris.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Rundown_Shack.jpg

    Anarchist Party Headquarters in Friggemall, Montana

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image81
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Quick!! That shack was built by some guy who didn't fill out 540 pages of legal documents!! Sue him until he's bankrupt, then arrest him for not paying taxes, and then lock him away in a jail cell!!

      It makes sense!

  15. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    Obviously not constructed with union labor. lol

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Nope; only the free market's "magic hand" was needed.

    2. Jim Hunter profile image60
      Jim Hunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yep, its still standing.

      Its always easy to tell.

    3. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Hey Mighty Mom, sure it was, why do you think such a shoddy job was done on it's construction. tongue

  16. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    Of COURSE not, Evan!
    I apologized that I got libertarian and anarchist mixed up.
    So by that measure, I also ow YOU an apology.
    You ARE a cool guy -- and a consistent voice for your beliefs!

  17. BillyDRitchie profile image60
    BillyDRitchieposted 5 years ago

    I figured Obama's strategy would be "blame Bush".  It is an obsession that he can't seem to get away from.

    But I guess when the less lucid members of our society (i.e. the Democratic base) buy into it, you go with what works.....

  18. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 5 years ago

    The strange thing with rightwingers is that everything the US does abroad (think Viking) is for the betterment of the world. Whereas, everything the US government does at home is designed to enslave the local population.

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Should be, but isn't always.
      When the right talks, usually enslaving the local population IS what it(the right) has in mind. lol

  19. superwags profile image82
    superwagsposted 5 years ago

    Isn't the world going to end in 2012 anyway? He shouldn't worry about politics, give the guy a break, the world's ending...

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Trying to lighten the mood or do you actually believe that? If you believe that, then all I can say is that you need to get out more. lol

      1. superwags profile image82
        superwagsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I just couldn't bring myself to seriously answer another one of lady love's forum posts - they depress me.

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Humor. That's better than the latter. lol

          1. superwags profile image82
            superwagsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zBqRLK_ESs

            Prof Brian Cox, legend and personal hero on the end of the world in 2012...

  20. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 5 years ago

    I just gave her thirty or forty words. I must be drunk.

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol

 
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