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Our debt continues to grow! This piece puts it all in perspective. More government equals less freedom and more confiscation of YOUR property more constraints on your liberty more sacrifice of your labor and your time spent to SERVE the beast! This anaysis didn't even include the unconstitutional health care entitlement!
That's your response??? Why would you even bother? Aren't you a teacher? I expected better from you but I guess that's the left... let's not talk about our problems let's just attack so no one can see we are the cause! Pathetic!!!
No actually I work in the insurance industry - though I trained as a teacher.
You of all people... "let's not talk about our problems let's just attack...." Your Hubpages "career" is based on nothing BUT attacks -
"The Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1977 by Edward H. Crane, who remains president and CEO, and Charles Koch, chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the oil conglomerate Koch Industries, Inc., the second largest privately held company (after Cargill) by revenue in the United States."
And your point is? What are you suggesting, that there is no debt or that debt really isn't a problem? I guess the dems must think the same which is why they don't act!
No, I think he's suggesting that there's a rather clear bias here.
If you are so concerned with the debt, why did your party add to it with tax cuts for the wealthy, and tax subsidies for the oil comanies?
I mean,to a T they voted to give trillion dollar profit companies more tax money.
Doesn't make sense.
Do I believe their real concern is the debt? Oh hells no.
Do I believe their real concern is the people of America....uh DUH, NO.
Face it, the only thing they are cutting is the added debt they put on! And that they are doing to those who can least afford it.
Very un-couth, if I do say.
Tax cuts do not cost anything.
Obama and the dems could have eliminated all subsidies... they didn't. Why?
Corporations don't pay taxes... their customers do. Taxes are included in the price of the goods and services.
Cutting taxes puts more money in the pockets of people for saving investing ( creating jobs) and spending ( creating jobs) I'd say that's a good thing wouldn't you?
So why doesn't it work then? There is no evidence that tax evading corporation charge any less or employ any more people than those corporations that do pay tax
Try to employ some common sense and logic. Do you actually believe higher taxes leads to economic growth and expansion, the creation of wealth and greater employment? Can you explain how that can be so? If so then raising the tax rate to 100% should be a boon to society! Then why isn't anyone proposing this?
No, you employ some common sense and give me just one example of a corporation that pays no taxes and as a result charges less and employs more people?
Vodafone got a £6 billion tax cut but they are still one of the more expensive phone companies in the UK. They haven't employed any more people because they have no need to.
Yes, I do believe that taxes lead to economic growth and expansion if properly applied and spent. Turn your question on its head and ask what would happen if we all paid 0 tax, there would be (in the UK) no health service, no army, no police, no fire service, no highway construction, unless of course these were all privatised and then we would have to pay these anyway with the disadvantage that we would also have to pay profits to the providers.
That's right John. If anyone believes the cutting taxes on corporations causes the "love to gush forth," then they must also believe in the Toothfairy.
Cut taxes causes the bottom line to fatten up - that's it. It runs counter to human nature; hand a guy $500 and does he, a) spend it on himself or his family or b) parse it up and give it to his neighbors just because he "can?" lolll
Your logic escapes me as with any economic endeavour unless the costs are shared equally by both, there is a lopsided effect that is left unaddressed.
If you buy a house in a county that does not have adequate impact fees that allow for the sewer and school expenses to be addressed then the result is academic. The taxpayer has to pick up the slack while the developer scampers off to create the same mess elsewhere.
The same thing occurs when a corporation takes tax free dollars and invests them elsewhere away from the base he is employing and selling too. Eventually the drought of support is felt by those left behind.. All corporate does is take the savings of tax free dollars and invests in cheaper foreign labor and services. General Electric made $16.2 billion dollars in profit last year and paid no taxes and the trend is the same with Exxon/Mobile and the others who have not directed nearly enough of the money back to our shores.
JFK believed in lowering taxes to stimulate investment and hiring. Worked out pretty well too.
And you seriously want to stand behind that statement "tax cuts don't cost anything?" lmao
I wouldn't expect you to get it... obviously your wife pays the bills.
A "cost" is a good or service you purchase... a cut in pay is not money spent therefore is not a "cost".
So taxes aren't spent on goods and services then!
No? You said "a cut in pay is not money spent therefore is not a "cost"." and I said "So taxes aren't spent on goods and services then!" as one follows the other.
No tax, no spend!
Yeah.. I work in finance and insurance - I probably wouldn't get it Lady Love... but a pharmaceutical peddler buying lunches for pharmacies, passing out pens, and dressing "hot" to turn on the pharmacists and doctors probably would...
Ever heard of "opportunity cost?" There is a "cost" when you pull money from one place and not the other - someone suffers, someone makes up the difference. You pay a "price" for doing one thing and not the other. But then again, the Conservatives' Savior, Ronald Reagan, believed in deficit spending - at least in practice.
You never answered John's question, did you? Where's the historical evidence that cutting taxes for industry produces jobs? Of course, economists have been asking that same question since the Reagan years and oddly enough have never found the answer. Supply Side doesn't work - it's never worked. It didn't get the name "Voodoo Economics" for nothing. Even the authors of Reaganomics admit IT NEVER WORKED. It was a cool theory that DIDN'T work. Get on your google machine and check that one out as you go about your scholarly research.
So what us the "cost" for spending less? Who suffers and who benefits from lower taxes?
There's plenty of examples of business booms following tax cuts going back to the depression but the left fails to acknowlege them so why bother rehashing them here?
Go fish - name the business booms following tax cuts. But don't forget about the Clinton years lolllll.... taxes higher than they are now and the greatest economic expansion the country has EVER known.
lovemychris - You obviously know the facts. Which means you also know that all the bitching here will change nothing. As the fact that no matter who is in office will change nothing. They are merely a figure head. What will be done is what the top 10% wealthiest and most powerful want to be done. Nothing less, nothing more. They just let us think we have some kind of power by offering up 2 out of 350 million people to vote for. Two people hand picked by them. Period.
The squirrels gather eagerly beneath the conspiracy tree, because they know the bounty will never end!
What conspiracy? Jeez, It doesn't take a genius to figure these things out. Everyone who has done the digging knows who runs this country and if you actually think that it is the President or Congress or some such nonsense you are NOT paying attention. My God, why don't YOU look into it and find the facts for yourself? You want to call it a conspiracy, go ahead, I don't care what you call it, it won't change what it IS.
And while you're at it, why don't you take a look at the way the govt. wanted to look into the email records of Prof. Cronon at the University of Wisconsin? Yes since he works there they say that his emails are Government property and oh in Maine, they want to get rid of the "union" mural. So lets see, take away a little freedom at a time, and any power the people have and guess who has even more of it? Seriously, how slow can people be? The Constitution is becoming nothing more than an old piece of paper and everyone is discussing the birthplace of the countrys figurehead, excellent diversion isn't it?
What conspiracy? Oh, I dunno, how about the one about democracy, our system of government and the Constitution being merely a facade behind which a select few of the wealthy lounge in rich leather chairs in smokey rooms sipping brandy, twirling their waxed mustaches, and plotting to really control the world?
I recommend you add some berries to the mix, just to keep a balanced diet. That, or ziprasidone.
actually, the post was in response to ballooning government spending.
GW lowered taxes and got involved in two expensive wars. That was a bad combination for our economy.
"The last two years of his presidency were characterized by the worsening subprime mortgage crisis, which resulted in dramatic government intervention to bailout damaged financial institutions and a weakening economy.
The U.S. national debt grew significantly from 2001 to 2008, both in dollars terms and relative to the size of the economy (GDP), due to a combination of tax cuts and wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Budgeted spending under President Bush averaged 19.9% of GDP, similar to his predecessor President Bill Clinton, although tax receipts were lower at 17.9% versus 19.1%."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_p … nistration
Spending more while lowering taxes produces debt, which someone must pay back at some point.
You will not get a response, at least a sensible one, from Dragon Lady - it makes too much sense and is fact-filled.
Don't you think that's a little personal?
And from a woman (?) who calls every democrat an "anti-American," a "socialist," a "freedom hater?" - No.. I think referring to someone who spouts nothing but hate a "Dragon Lady" is quite appropriate." You can have me banned if you like.
Are you trying to say that personal insults are ok if YOU really, really don't like someone? Is that how it works?
Not at all, but you do tend to reap what you sow. If she were able to conduct a perfectly civil debate without the terms "socialist," "anti-American," "hater of freedom," she would likely not get the attention she does (and obviously craves) and she might be taken more seriously. When you insult someone's patriotism because they don't agree with your politics, then you are asking for venom.
If I referred to her or any other hardcore conservative on here as a "neo-fascist" or "Nazi-like," all hell would break loose even though I could argue the accusation effectively...
What nonsense! Why would any liberal be insulted by the term socialist... it's the core of what you believe! Sorry but true patriots love the constitution and aren't interested in changing the meaning in order to establish their socialist paradise.
Why would "all hell break loose"? Either you could demonstrate that to be the case or not. That is not the same as a personal insult along the lines of "dragon lady" (whatever that was supposed to mean).
Well you don't know what Dragon Lady means, but you know it's an insult or a personal attack. Here's what it means - it's a term used in the Far East for a domineering, headstrong, controlling woman - that's all it means. Glad that horrible term got you all bent out of shape....
Yes, I know what it means. I was suggesting that your application of it here was rather odd. Is that clear enough now?
The golden rule is to never raise taxes on the rich so they can freely shower their wealth among the masses. Let the middle class make up the difference. The 1% holding 93% of the wealth know best how to direct their riches to adjust the economy the best way capitalism can and assure that we all will prosper.
Unfortunately someone got greedy and said screw the masses it's everyman for himself. Funny how that always plays itself out in an unchecked society. Can we remember the Great Depression?
"Tax cuts do not cost anything.
Obama and the dems could have eliminated all subsidies... they didn't. Why?
Corporations don't pay taxes... their customers do. Taxes are included in the price of the goods and services.
Cutting taxes puts more money in the pockets of people for saving investing ( creating jobs) and spending ( creating jobs) I'd say that's a good thing wouldn't you?"<---Lackluster Lady
This completely skewed and incorrect perspective continues to haunt the poor Lady....
This is a perfect case for the blinded leading the duped....
Conversing with you requires no evidence...
Whenever I have done so in the past you brush it off....even when its Fox Schmooz...
I love how you degrade, minimize, and laugh at the people who are the fundamental building block of our society...whether transporting, sorting, or physically making the materials that we abuse on a daily basis....
You laugh...and again...I say, why don't you join the struggle in Juarez..... Do some real writing, and then see what corporatocracy...(who you are supporting whether you realize it or not) does...
Laugh at struggle......and perhaps one day your life will become one as well....
Im laughing at you mike! Its your way... you bring up subjects completly from left field unrelated to the discussion at hand and you demand answers... its jus weird. Start another forum about truckers and if it interests me I'll meet you there.
Simple mind syndrome striking twice...
Its your failure to talk about reality that is laughable...
I bring up case-in-point situations and you and your ilk continue to talk about ideologies as if we were taking some kind of failed philosophy class...
If you can't handle reality...that is your own problem...
It does explain alot, though...
(I also think its quite possible that the LL has some proxy accounts)
Its you and your ilk that can't handle reality... democrats are communists they want to enslave us all and create a politically elite intellectual class that they preside over... the only problem is people aren't as stupid as you libs believe.
Come on now, setting ego aside for a minute you have to admit that is exactly what you do.
you add quotes manually the automatic quoting will not happen. Of course! He wants to demonstrate his intellectual superiority over us. He wants yo show he and his liberal brethren deserve to rules over us, that only they know what's best for mankind and we as the lesser people should turn over our power to them!
Yes Short Story... The person with no hubs and the person with three.....with clear agendas compared to the person with 48 hubs and comments that are quite diverse...
I like how you both responded next to each other so quickly..... Something to prove, I wonder?
Lady of Unlove
I don't work to demonstrate intelligence over you....you just work so well at showing your charlatanous self...
You speak of those "democrats and socialist" destorying....and forget that I am a Republican...and I point to places like Nigeria, the City of Commerce, and Mexico to show how your broad-brush stroke concepts are deeply flawed....
Again, I want to ask you an important question.. While it may seem off topic...it is not.. Why is Los Angeles called the "Fragmented Metropolis"?
Is the number of hubs published relevant to this discussion, or are you just lashing out now?
He has a need to demonstrate his superiority over others. Imagine he says he's a republican well anyone can carry the card for any number of reasons but that doesn't make them a lover of freedom. Mike is a communist pure and simple, with a desire to be part of the ruling elite directing the masses to do what's best for society and confiscating their property to pay for it all, to make it fair to spread justice it he sees it.
I look at the numbers in terms of investment value...its quality and quantity...
Again Lady, don't let your friend (perhaps doppelganger) distract you away from what I asked...
Why is Los Angeles called by some the "Fragmented Metropolis"?
I'm not going to wait for you to be in office (the way you professed to prefer it) before you answer tangible questions..
She used to have a hotline... It was as credible as her postings here..
Evan, have you read this:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6674234/Citig … ort-Part-1
What, Short Story....asking a question?
Why don't you post a response.. Perhaps then you will understand the relevance of my asking...
Why don't you start with what you THINK the relevance is instead of trying so hard to impress yourself?
If you are getting a commission for the number of books sold through amazon as the result of this one thread, being direct might give you a slightly better chance of crossing the '0' mark. If you are just peddling more socialist urban history, you may be disappointed at how many people care enough to wait for you to get to your point about Mexico, business, water, etc. Are you going to drops hints about the Owens Valley War next and demand that anyone know or care why you think it is relevant? Everyone is proud of you for reading the book, but just get on with it already.
You are painfully proving the point the lady made about you earlier.
I think that when you write to me, Short Story, you are looking in the mirror...
I know what the relevance is.... And while I have read the book by that title, I was no way making either a plug for it, or even informing you that such a book exists.... As for pay or commissions....I am a hubber here..my articles speak for themselves..
As for why you are here....that is another issue... There is so much talk of politcal hacks getting paid to do exactly what you are doing...
Again...are you busy looking at a reflection of yourself?
Projection....showing itself yet again..
Can you answer the question?
This is very simple..
If you want to use the book as a reference, feel free....but it isn't necessary..
What is this, "I'm rubber and you're glue"? Is that the level of discourse here now? Stop trying so hard to impress yourself and just say what you mean so we can avoid all this silliness and wasting of time.
Mike has "issues". I'm worried about him and I've urged him to get help.
What is "I'm rubber and you're glue" all about?
Have you lost the plot?
It is a "how can I avoid answering a direct question" nonsense..
This is the real "help" the dear old Lady is speaking about...
She can't create a proper response...so she dithers....
Again, why is Los Angeles often called the Fragmented Metropolis?
C'mon Lady...you like to talk about the broad generalizations of "capitalism" and "socialism"....but why don't you wish to discuss the specific ways these words have made themselves manifest in the real world?
What are you trying to avoid? Thinking?
Since you can't come up with some quick one-liner or some blog to refer to, you simply play school yard kiddie games?
Your actions, both Lady's and S.S.'s speak louder than all of your words...
Awwww avoidance again... I don't see any such discussion occurring here.
Can you not answer a question?
I can't answer that question. Why would I? I'm 3000 miles away in my own dysfunctional state! Further why would I care about LA? Its full of rich liberals so why don't they just fix it?
If that is the case, Lady, why answer at all?
If your going to use the "I can't focus on things outside of my state" then every post you have done that does so demonstrates your hypocrisy...
As for your "liberals in L.A." comment...this shows that there is a whole lot about this city that you are not aware of...
It is too bad that the gemstone of the American economy is not of much importance to you.... Los Angeles and California as a whole is one of the, if not the main, driver of this nation's economy...again...without our ports...without our logistics networks...without our work here, everyone across the nation would be less off...
Additionally, I did not raise this issue to just discuss Los Angeles....for the forces that have made it the "Fragmented Metropolis" work across this nation, and the globe... Understanding this is very important...one is then able to see the serious flaws that have brought our nation to the trouble we are witnessing in our "modern" day and age...
If it's "very important," then why don't you go ahead and state clearly, fully, and directly what you think your point is? Or is your ego really what's important?
Whatever! Just make your point and stop playing teacher.
I'm measuring the researching ability of the likes of Lady and yourself...
For being online so much, I would think that either of you would have figured out some sort of intelligent response to my question...
But...I am not surprised by what I am seeing here...
The "googles" is so close...and the best either of you have come up with is the title of a book.....a very good one at that..especially in conjunction with "The City of Quartz" and "Eden by Design"....
If you can't or refuse to answer my question that is fine..
I am not going to explain it any further, for it is very much apparent that you or Lady do not care about the answer...
If nothing else, my question at least served as a lithmus test....
There you go again. Reminds me of a little kid who reads something in a book then runs around bothering everyone with "I'll bet you didn't know..."
It is obviously all about ego. If it were about having a discussion you would just come out with whatever you think is so significant and invite an exchange of ideas on the matter. This way you not only avoid having to defend your own opinion, but get to convince yourself that you know things no one else does. "I'll bet you didn't know..."
I've noticed you do this sort of thing pretty regularly.
Why not give the ego a little break and have an actual discussion instead?
Playing teacher? Like you perhaps with your unending chain of useless posts here on hubpages?
At least I am a teacher in real life....the last thing I have to do is "play one" on hubpages...
If you are unable to respond to my question, that is fine....
I predicted as much prior to my ever posing it to you...
Thank you for living up (or down) to my expectations...
It's hard to keep up with me?
I've asked the same question how many times?
I'm running while standing still....
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