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Should Paid Forum Posting Be Outlawed?

  1. Hugh Williamson profile image87
    Hugh Williamsonposted 5 years ago

    Paid forum posting is a business that's growing rapidly because of the glut of money in politics and the desire of commercial interests to promote their products and to blunt criticism.

    Should paid forum posters be forced to acknowledge that they are being paid? Should they be banned from posting for pay? Info:

    forumbooster.net/
    postloop.com/


    ...or just google "paid forum posting" and you'll get over 9 million hits on the subject.

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Wow! I must have really ticked you off!

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        ryankettposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hey? Are you getting paid to post your tripe?

        That would explain a lot!

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Well would you make such an ass of yourself for nothing?

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            ryankettposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No, but I would do it for $15 an hour if I were allowed to use a pseudonym.

            Lady Love, please feel free to put a good word in for me with your employers, I will change my whole politic outlook overnight.

            1. bgamall profile image85
              bgamallposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Lol Ryan.

          2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image93
            Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            LOL!!!

        2. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Oh yes! The Koch brothers pay me 5000 a week to convince the ten liberals that post on hubpages to switch parties! roll

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            ryankettposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Then why did you take this extremely broad topic extremely personally? I see no mention of your name, it must have touched a nerve.

            1. bgamall profile image85
              bgamallposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              The guilty have to express themselves.

          2. Cagsil profile image59
            Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            This statement alone, shows you lack any forward type thinking. It's not about those who post, but is about membership of the community.

            It has nothing to do with those who post at all. Those who post are the active people in the forums and nothing more. Those who read the forums, because they like to keep up on topics, to learn but not get involved, are the ones YOU would really be talking to in the first place. It's everyone.

            HP's primary market is US citizens.

            Your motives and number of posts, demonstrates more aggressiveness than the average person, therefore you could very well be paid for your post. Your motives, to me, are obvious- you are about control of people, distortion and misinformation, scarred with a hatefulness that spews out in your words.

            Not to mention, you've also another problem, YOU yourself and your own actions, show you're not any better than the politicians you support. Yet, you fail to see it. Ironic. hmm

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              You should read the NYT editorial page today... they are praying to God that Obama gets lucky in Libya.

              Oops another one of my "hateful" posts! Lol!

              1. Cagsil profile image59
                Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                roll

      2. Hugh Williamson profile image87
        Hugh Williamsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        If I were a Conservative (and I am on many things) I would be very concerned that postings like yours only make the right look bad.

        As many times as you have been asked if you're a paid poster, you never gave a straight "No" answer.

        Paid posting is legal and some maintain completely moral but the readers should know if they're reading somebody's heartfelt opinion or a 2-cent per word diatribe.

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          ryankettposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I'm sure that if the answer is 'yes', then Lady Love would have no problem saying 'no'. I base that observation on the complete inaccuracy of some of her forum posts.

          My guess is that she is not a paid poster, but a genuine extremist.

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            "Extremist"??? Did Chuck Schumer tell you to use that word??? Lol!

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              ryankettposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              You have posted around 15 posts per day for 7 months exclusively on the Hubpages political forums, probably enough for a novel, probably enough time to have worked a second job. Most people would consider that extreme.

              Unless, you are being paid, say $5 per forum post. That would bring you in $75 a day in revenue. Makes more sense to me wink

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                So it isn't possible that I'm passionate about politics and expressing my views? It's not possible for conservatives to feel as strongly as the leftist socialist that seek to destroy this country?

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                  ryankettposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Sure, but the smart way to do so is by writing your own stuff, on a blog. Because you could find yourself actually achieving something significant, like making a name for yourself as a correspondant.

                  It will also see people who subscribe to your views begin to respect you and follow you. Trying to force your views down the necks of people who don't share them and will never share them isn't achieving anything whatsoever.

                  One of your right wing friends posted a link to this blog the other day: http://endoftheamericandream.com/

                  That has been built on a free wordpress theme. Think about it, he has a busy and profitable website, you have thousands of pointless forum posts being read by people that couldn't give a sh*t about what you have to say.

                  So maybe you are passionate, but you certainly haven't challenged your passion into something productive and worthwhile over the last seven months.

                  1. lady_love158 profile image60
                    lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Says you! No one makes money on hubpages its a scam! Besides I have a job among other interests...I might soon produce a radio program... I don't have time to do hubs right so I enjoy a little debate I like to see how others think... but the libs here are angry because I'm not like them or because I post too much its all jealousy and hate from the left and im not surprised by it at all being this site is based in the most liberal city in the country! I'm not intimidated by it either! I've done nothing wrong except bare my feelings to a bunch of strangers some of whom obviously have a problem with me... well that's life... you can't please everyone... just ask Obama! Lol

                  2. Marisa Wright profile image94
                    Marisa Wrightposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    This is a very good answer. 

                    Though in this particular case, I think the best course is to start ignoring LaLo's posts, whether or not she's paid.

                    If she's paid, then we should make sure she's not getting a response, so her employers will decide it's not worth it.

                    If she's not paid, the obsessive level of her posting suggests a mental problem and feeding that obsession isn't going to be good for her condition.

                2. livelonger profile image89
                  livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  It's possible.

                  But is it the case? You still haven't answered the question. Are you compensated in any way for posting on HubPages?

                  1. Cagsil profile image59
                    Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Like you would get an honest reply. lol lol lol

                  2. kerryg profile image87
                    kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    She ridicules the idea every time it comes up, but I have yet to see her actually deny it. tongue

                    To be honest, I do find it sort of hard to believe that the HubPages forums would be the target for a campaign like that, but such campaigns certainly do exist, so I guess anything's possible. The sheer volume of posts by obvious and suspected sock puppets in this forum is suspicious, imho, especially since they miraculously started showing up out of the woodwork shortly after Obama's election and inauguration. Before that, I really don't remember the same degree of baiting and other trollish behaviors - there could be some fairly heated differences of opinion, but they usually seemed sincere, whereas some of the current batch come off like automatons who'd blame a hangnail on Obama and his evil socialist plans for world domination.

      3. kirstenblog profile image78
        kirstenblogposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        well you are a hate filled hate monger and try to spread your bile everywhere you go roll

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      should it be outlawed?

      no that would be idiotic.

      How is "someone posting online" any different than "someone talking on the tv", or anything else?

      Just cuz money's involved doesn't mean that it's evil

      The real way to stop "paid forum posting" is to make sure it doesn't change your mind. The money will stop flowing when it has no effect.

      outlaw it? seriously? government isn't big enough to police that.

      1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image93
        Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Sometimes it's hard for me to remember why I used to think that you were nuts. . . .

        1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
          Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Outlawing frequent posting for monetary gain on the other hand would be easy to outlaw wink no Government required.

          1. Cagsil profile image59
            Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Actually, you mean instituting TOS rules would be easily done.

            However, enforcement of said TOS Rules and those who violate? Is something altogether more difficult to do, and would most likely requirement government intrusion upon privacy laws.

            Just a thought. smile

          2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            How is that even a possibility to outlaw?

            If blowing 20 bucks to have some guy write "McCain is awesome" is actually WORTH something, then it's your fault for reading it!

        2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          smile

          Who knows, maybe I am nuts. I just have yet to hear a good argument against most of my beliefs.

    3. tony0724 profile image60
      tony0724posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I could always use the spare cash !

  2. sunforged profile image63
    sunforgedposted 5 years ago

    lmao

  3. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    We can't control paid posting. But we can, as a community, request that HP look at implementing some controls. Then again, they are quite busy monitoring the several thousand legitimate hubbers, as well as all of the forum posts.
    One potential "plant" is like a pimple on the ass of an elephant (pun INTENDED).

  4. TamCor profile image79
    TamCorposted 5 years ago

    Boy, am I naive...I had no idea people were actually paid to post on forums...wow!

    If that's true, then here's what I think:  lady_love and lovemychris are the same person, and this person makes enough by playing a dual role that, being paid to post on this forum, is the only job they need! 

    lol lol lol





    (j/k...I think) big_smile

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
      Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Well someone did make the comment LL worked for some newspaper?

      Dont know how repetitous postings would help as a backlink though.

      Sure must have alot of free time or be one dedicated political fan.

    2. EmpressFelicity profile image84
      EmpressFelicityposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      LOL.  If one person tried to play both roles, it could result in permanent brain damage.  Maybe this mystery person had to sign a waiver before starting work lol

      1. TamCor profile image79
        TamCorposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        lol big_smile lol

  5. mikelong profile image82
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    Put Lady Loveless next to Rush Lamebrain and Glenn Beck....

    Fox will syndicate her no time...

  6. adrienne2 profile image82
    adrienne2posted 5 years ago

    Boy do I love the forums! You never know what subject is being discussed.@Cagsil *scratching my head* how would HP know payment was actually being made from the post?

    1. Cagsil profile image59
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Hey Adrienne, I'm not saying HP would know. If a person openly admits it, then I wanted to know where HP stood on it? That's all. Nothing more and wasn't trying to stir up trouble. I was only curious.

  7. Eaglekiwi profile image74
    Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago

    Freedom of Speech -whats that all about again wink

    (Ducks for cover)

    1. Cagsil profile image59
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Freedom of Speech does have it's limitations. wink

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
        Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Im sure it does.  smile

        Just sayin..sometimes I hear it touted like some unique 'right' other times ist ahem ,well there are limitations ,and of course companies have their T.O.S.

        All of which I agree with. Then ,sometimes I dont smile

  8. Hugh Williamson profile image87
    Hugh Williamsonposted 5 years ago

    I read a little on this subj. earlier today. It seems that posters are paid by the post -- from a penny to 50 cents per.

    That's not a lot so you need to keep a lot of posts going. You start repeated threads and keep them going with an eye toward getting 20 word posts back (the min. that they pay for).

    Not all pd. posters work for an online agency, some are retained by political groups, businesses and gov'ts. China is famous.

    If you post an opinion and get back a bunch of obvious talking points, you've tripped somebody's keyword tracer.

    1. prettydarkhorse profile image67
      prettydarkhorseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Do they also pay tax??

      1. Hugh Williamson profile image87
        Hugh Williamsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        With the online agencies, you're a private contractor so you pay your own tax. I don't know how the privately retained posters are handled.

        Are you thinking of giving it a shot? It wont work. You're too intelligent.

        1. prettydarkhorse profile image67
          prettydarkhorseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No, I suppose they should pay tax.

          1. Hugh Williamson profile image87
            Hugh Williamsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Well, as the super rich Leona Helmsley once said, "Taxes are for the little people."

            1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
              Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Yea and I am shrinking by the hour wink

            2. prettydarkhorse profile image67
              prettydarkhorseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              by which taxes are automatically deducted from their wages.

              1. Cagsil profile image59
                Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Being an outside contractor requires "self-employment" tax to be applied, not a standard deduction of an employee of said company.

                Two different things entirely, when it comes to taxes. wink

                1. prettydarkhorse profile image67
                  prettydarkhorseposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I mean the wage earners.

                  1. Cagsil profile image59
                    Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Those who actually work as employees, yes taxes are taken out of their earnings.

                    I was making known that those who are sub-contractors or contractors, who work outside said company, actually have to file their taxes based on the rules of "self-employment". wink That's all. smile

  9. IzzyM profile image86
    IzzyMposted 5 years ago

    So the question hasn't been answered...is ladylove a paid forum poster or not?

    1. livelonger profile image89
      livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      It would appear so.

  10. knolyourself profile image59
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    Should be illegal. But who can tell? They are not voluntarily going to admit it. There is no way to tell. What you can only get is witch hunts, character assassinations, charges that may or may not be true, no evidence, no trials. Kind of like Guantánamo. Then all the bad guys have to do is do insinuations on anybody they don't like, discrediting good people. People have a right to be stupid without getting paid.

    1. Cagsil profile image59
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I'm sorry, I disagree. If someone chooses to remain stupid? There is something wrong with them.

      No one can reserve the right to be stupid. Ignorance isn't blissful, when accountability can still be applied to said individual.

      And, yes my example has a simple message.

      Example: If a person gets into another person's car, it is their responsibility to know everything there is about that person and the vehicle- such as, "Is the driver a legal driver?", "Is the car registered legally?", "Is there a valid inspection sticker on the car?".  Accountability is going to come to the persons' in the vehicle.

      Just my thought on your statement. wink

  11. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    For some people, negative attention is preferable to positive attention.
    We could short-circuit the whole thing by all just posting back, "Yes, dear."
    With no one to rant against (e.g., people ranting back at your rants), the behavior will stop.
    But that, of course, would require cooperation. Kinda like herding cats....

    1. livelonger profile image89
      livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Agreed. Or not reply at all. I wonder if she gets paid if no one replies to her posts?

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
        Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Maybe works like a Dear Aggie thing, the more posts (1-10,10-20 etc).

        Anyway sound advice above.

      2. rebekahELLE profile image93
        rebekahELLEposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I usually don't because I can't see them! The forum filter saves me from politics and religion threads. I take a look at times, but I love not seeing the threads.

  12. knolyourself profile image59
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    People who always agree with people I find boring. Course no one agrees with me so I am never bored.

  13. Eaglekiwi profile image74
    Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago

    ladylove might not be a lady or even a man ,maybe they represent a group..

    Oh ooops wasnt going to post anything..wink

  14. Pandoras Box profile image82
    Pandoras Boxposted 5 years ago

    I think it would be fairly easy to control. Limit forum posting privileges to be in reasonable proportion to hubs published. Or limit number of threads one is able to start in a 24 hour period. I would think such limitations would be very reasonable, not hurt any serious person, and discourage paid for postings from using your site.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image94
      Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The whole thing is about honesty.  Being paid to spout propaganda, and discussing political views among one's peers, are two different things.  The paid propagandist will never admit to anything contrary to what they are paid to post.  You can tell the difference if you look closely. 

      A paid poster ruins any chance at civilized debate among honest citizens.  It's hard enough as it is!  smile

      1. Sufidreamer profile image81
        Sufidreamerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Have to agree - for me, anybody who is paid to post political views is also a troll, and I treat them as such. They are more interested in creating discord and starting fights than engaging in constructive debate.

        1. recommend1 profile image70
          recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I think that it is political spam and probably against the TOS in some way to run a campaign for profit from this supposed writers forum.

          I would vote that we should all report them as spam every time they appear until a mod takes time off upsetting the regulars and does something about them.

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Annoying as she is I would much rather  she stayed put to face the ridicule of all those she mocks.

            Don't turn her into a martyr.

            1. recommend1 profile image70
              recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I don't think that stopping her flood of irritating and generally meaningless posts is martydom - it is just removing another source of spam.

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Oh, I agree, I just don't think barring her is the way to do it. Far better if she curbs herself.

            2. kirstenblog profile image78
              kirstenblogposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I personally suspect she is doing far more to increase Obama's popularity then she will ever realize. I would criticize him a lot more if I didn't see the ridiculous stuff posted here daily, somehow its really hard to want to have anything in common with someone like that. Maybe its the dems that hired her to make the rep's look totally insane lol tongue

              1. pisean282311 profile image57
                pisean282311posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                might be...quiet possible....on pay roll of obama to get sympathy for him smile

              2. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Oh yes! Though my interest in Obama is only technical, he's not my President after all, I'm a lot less inclined to be critical than I otherwise would be.

              3. kerryg profile image87
                kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Yes, as a president I'd actually classify him as a disappointment (though not a total loss like his predecessor), but since I know that any thread I post criticizing his policies will just turn into another ludicrous "omg, he's an evil Muslim socialist!11!!" rant, I rarely bother. You can't have an interesting debate with that sort of mindless hatred.

            3. Sufidreamer profile image81
              Sufidreamerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              ...and as if by magic, it appears, playing the martyr. Another few cents earned for that post wink

              Not just the left - I have seen conservatives, libertarians, and political nihilists equally bored by the incessant flow of meaningless threads.

              It is starting to resemble Chinese water torture - eventually we will all agree just to make them stop big_smile

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I would like to point out that I did not make this post!!

                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Er, nobody thought you did!

    2. recommend1 profile image70
      recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      For the first time in a ling time I diasagree with you ! big_smile

      Like garbage hubs they pollute the quality of these pages - and they are all about raising the profile of their lies and propoganda. 

      The forums rate in Google the same as anything else - and once in a while a subject can go viral and become a news item, through the lie itself or through some excellent counter - BUT the name of the post goes on - and as we know any news is good news in politics and the rubbish still has teh opening title.

      Paid posters should be removed in the same way that rubbish hubs are being removed,  they are spam and harm the whole site.

      1. Pandoras Box profile image82
        Pandoras Boxposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I agree with what you say, but do not know how HP would be able to tell who is getting paid. It'd be kind of wrong of them to just assume.

        My thinking is that paid-for posters don't have time to write real hubs, and must utilize forums that allow them unlimited forum postings. If they can't get what they need here, they would be likely to move to greener pastures. If Lalo could only post one nonsensical hate-thread per day, then we'd see much less of her, and if she is a paid-for poster, she'd have to move elsewhere to make her quotas.

        I dunno, I think it makes sense.

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No it doesn't! Nothing any of you say makes sense! The only thing clear to me is the hate you and your lib friends spew at those that don't share your views! Perhaps all of you are employed by OFA or moveon.org?

          1. Cagsil profile image59
            Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Classic. roll

          2. Pandoras Box profile image82
            Pandoras Boxposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No, I am not. See how easy that was. I don't know, maybe you already answered the question. I didn't care enough to read the whole thread.

            HP forums aren't figuring real big in my future. I'll miss some people, but the quality has gone way down. I find I'm not learning anything here anymore about anything, and when that happens, it's time to move on.

            I will miss some people. Not you. smile

            Whatever it is, I hope you get it worked out. Noone should have to live with such hatred.

            1. livelonger profile image89
              livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              You can just ignore her.

              She's being paid to provoke you. Seriously. Just ignore her.

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Lol! Yeah right there's big profit in that!

              2. habee profile image90
                habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                That's what I was trying to say to Randy. lol

  15. pisean282311 profile image57
    pisean282311posted 5 years ago

    that would cut down anti obama threads considerably on hubs...

  16. lady_love158 profile image60
    lady_love158posted 5 years ago

    Notice a pattern? It's everyone on the left that wants me gone... hate free speech much? Lol! Here in practical real life situations your beliefs are revealed for all to see! People that don't share your views are to be silenced. Do you really think its a stretch to think Obama and the democrats feel the same way especially with him using the FCC to control the internet by executive order going around congress?

    Opposing dissent is anti American it goes against the very foundation of the principles of this country! But you lefties don't care about that do you?

    1. dingdondingdon profile image60
      dingdondingdonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I don't think it's dissent that people are annoyed by. Personally I enjoy a good debate with someone whose views are different to mine.

      But people, including myself, have noticed that there are a huge amount of anti-Obama and anti-Democrat posts on the forums every day, and the problem is that none of them really cover any new ground. We just keep having the same debates: unions vs anti-unions, tax-cuts vs bail-outs, welfare vs welfare cuts. It's the same people giving the same opinions, and nothing changes. It's just kind of... boring.

      1. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        yup...boring and annoying...

    2. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      But Lady Love, you are the one who hates free speech! Look at your counter arguments "But you lefties don't care about that do you"!
      Is that really the best you can do?
      Cut free from copy and paste you are floundering.
      Your whole post is a rant against free speech!

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Where have I called for limiting your speech? Do you see me conspiring with other posters to ignore you? Did I start a debate whether john holden is a piad poster and should he be allowed to spew his garbage?
        Clearly your argument has fallen flat and is without any basis in fact or evidence of support.

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Where have you called for limiting my speech!! Try your last post!

          You  probably don't see debates about whether I should be banned or not because I don't make several threads a day copying and pasting something from the American Thinker or similar and tacking on a random rant to it.
          And that's a good troll tactic, why has my argument fallen flat? Not just because you say so surely, after all, you would never deny me free speech would you?

        2. Sufidreamer profile image81
          Sufidreamerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          @Lady_Love: Are you paid for posting political views on Hubpages?

          @John Holden: Are you paid for posting political views on Hubpages?

          There you go - fairness in action smile

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            lol lol lol

    3. kirstenblog profile image78
      kirstenblogposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Nope, cause I have seen very right wing people post here that they find your posts hateful and distasteful. I do consider them right wing as this is the only thing I agree with from them, the difference between genuine right wing folks here and you is I respect them....

    4. DonDWest profile image90
      DonDWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lady_love, do you have a job? Seriously I want to know how you get paid for spamming online forums.

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      jerrylposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      LaLo, If the Obama administration is going against the things you believe in, and if you do not like the policies that are in place,  (WHY DON'T YOU CONTACT THE WHITE HOUSE, THE HOUSE, THE SENATE, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE SUPREME COURT WITH YOUR VIEWS)?   Bombard each of the above with as many threads per day as you clutter up HP forums with. 

      Maybe they will do something that will appease your appetite for what you consider should be the proper way to do things.

      If you really want to accomplishment something, post some of your correspondence with and answers from some of the above entities.

      This will at the very least show that you are trying to do something about government and not just trying to stir up the masses with inuendos and politically biased rhetoric that you have forwarded from some partisan publication or web site. 
      It is obvious that everyone that reads the threads on the HP forums knows your opinions.  Don't you think it's time you took some positive action? 
      Put your money where your mouth is and get productive instead of devisive.  Who knows, you may even get some positive results.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        fo·rum -noun 1. place or assembly for public discussion [fawr-uhm] [Origin: 1425–75; late ME < L: marketplace, public place, akin to forīs, forās outside, foris DOOR]

        Now why don't you people get off your high horse and contribute something positive? You should be thanking me for bringing some life to these forums!

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You first.

        2. Sufidreamer profile image81
          Sufidreamerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          fo·rum -noun 1. place or assembly for public discussion [fawr-uhm] [Origin: 1425–75; late ME < L: marketplace, public place, akin to forīs, forās outside, foris DOOR]

          Not, I notice, a place for ranting. Or for people paid to post and rabble rouse.

          As emptye vesselles make the lowdest sounde: so they that haue least wyt, are the greatest babblers.
          1599 Shakespeare Henry V iv. iv. 64

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Gee sounds like a personal attack yet another piling on... oddly I don't see you much in the forums you must be part of the mod mentality because obviously you haven't read many of my posts.

            1. Sufidreamer profile image81
              Sufidreamerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              What's a mod mentality?

              http://64.19.142.12/i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00795/Vespa-mods_795796c.jpg

              http://64.19.142.10/www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00031/Paul_Weller_in_1977_31631s.jpg

              I was more of a rocker, I am afraid.

              Not sure what mentality or frequency of posting in the forum has to do with anything - as you were keen to point out, you didn't start this thread. It was merely questioning the intentions of paid posters smile

              You chose to make it all about you - there is nothing forcing you to post in this thread. If you are not paid for posting, this thread doesn't apply to you. If you are, we are making sure that you work hard for your money wink

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                The head banging must have made you forgetful I was responding to your reply to me. You might want to put down the pot pipe and pay attention.

                1. Sufidreamer profile image81
                  Sufidreamerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  What pot pipe?

                  1. lady_love158 profile image60
                    lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Lol!

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                    ShortStoryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I like chicken pot pie

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    jerrylposted 5 years ago

    The thing you are bringing most to this forum is hate filled rhetoric!

    You are so bound to spread partisan garbage, that you even put your own biased spin on articles. 

    We don't need people like you, who use misdirection ploys for partisan leverage. 

    If you are so damned determined to change the way things are, why don't you contact those that can make the changes, instead of depressing others with your constant stream of hate and inuendos?

    As for me contributing something positive,  I am currently working with a group that has a bill here in Minnesota to change our monetary system from one of debt to one of wealth. 
    This you can look up as minnesota senate file #65. 

    Now, how about you do something positive, and prove it.

  18. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago

    Personally, I'm not going to contribute to any thread LaLo starts anymore.  Yes, a boycott of sorts. Leave it to her own party to tell her how ridiculous her posts are.  And, cut down on her income from posting here.  The money, that's the thing! lol

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No loss... I have yet to see you ever make what could be called a "contribution".

      1. Randy Godwin profile image94
        Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Don't address me anymore, paid propagandist!  I don't wish to converse with your ilk anymore and I don't want you addressing me.  I promise not to read your garbage anymore, LaLo.  You have joined the ranks of 3 other useless posters here I refuse to interact with on the forums. 

        You refuse to deny you are paid for posting by a political group so that's enough for me.  If you were merely a common citizen giving your views there would be no problem.  But I don't believe this is the case.

        So, cram it and don't address me anymore!

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Lol! I thought you weren't going to post anymore...libs never keep their word! Lol

  19. Susana S profile image91
    Susana Sposted 5 years ago

    Why not take a vacation? Here's a good destination

  20. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago

    I've asked this...person not to address me anymore.  I said I would not respond to the threads she starts anymore.  Nor address her either.  I will keep my word on this.  I suggest others do the same.  Let her stew in her own bitter juices!  smile

    1. livelonger profile image89
      livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Knowing that she's a paid shill makes it all the more easy.

      I'm with you.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I'll miss you roll lol!

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    ShortStoryposted 5 years ago

    Who - seriously now - would pay someone to post on a forum, and why? This all seems a little paranoid.

    1. Jim Hunter profile image59
      Jim Hunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Just a little.

    2. Randy Godwin profile image94
      Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Only if you believe it doesn't happen.  The same political backers who fund rallys and hire protesters to attend.  Or do you not believe this happens?  It's simple, merely ignore the paid posters and they won't get paid anything.  Watch how quickly they disappear from the forums then. Give it a try and see for yourself!  smile

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        ShortStoryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I realize liberal groups did that in Wisconsin, but at least there you are paying for a photo-op for the nightly news. What is the justification for spending money to have someone post on a forum? The post will be lost in a million others in a few minutes, and when was the last time you saw someone change their political position on a forum based on what someone else posted? It would be a ridiculous waste of money. I could understand paying for blogs/hubs as they sit there and potentially lots of people can read them, but forum posts? I dunno.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Your thoughts on why someone would spend so much time posting irrational threads on a writing site and not write anything of substance?  smile

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            ShortStoryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Procrastinating and avoiding other work while still appearing busy?

            1. Randy Godwin profile image94
              Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Is that the best you can do?  smile

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                ShortStoryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                That's not a good enough reason?

      2. habee profile image90
        habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I think you're wrong about that, RD. I've been paid to make posts on forums before - not here. My posts were benign - about travel, restaurants, things like that. FRIENDLY POSTS! lol. I was paid per post, and it didn't matter if people responded or not.

        I'm all for freedom of speech, and I think LL has the right to post all she wants. I don't have to read it, though. I've always found it suspect when a person only sees one side all the time. For example, I've both condemned and supported Obama, W, and Palin on these forums, depending on the specific action they took. Anyone who says Obama is perfect and that W never did anything good - or vice-versa - is not a rational, thinking individual.

        LaLo and LMC are like two sides of the same coin. I must admit, however, that LMC sometimes seems more rational because she has criticized Obama from time to time, while I've never seen LaLo say anything good about our current POTUS.

        As you know, I'm not a liberal, but I'm not a far-right conservative, either. I agree with what another poster said - LaLo is making the rest of us moderate-conservatives look bad! lol

        1. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I don't know, perhaps it's just me, but I prefer to discuss politics with those speaking their own minds.  Not what they are being paid to say.  Instead of discussions with common folks about problems facing our country, I don't want to be talking with those who only care about making money for the number of people they anger or influence or for how many threads they start.

          In the case of paid political posters, truth isn't important to them during the discussion.  If one knows they are debating with a paid poster on a public thread you don't think it would make a difference in how their opinion was received?  Get real, Holle!

          If the paid posters admit it, I have no problem with them.  But if they try to pass themselves off as common interested and concerned citizens only, slug slime they are!  I sorta like honest posters best, for some reason.  lol

          And you did admit to being paid to post, but not to an agenda which might affect peoples lives or put them in jeopardy if you lie to them.  Do you see the difference?  Paid political forum posters won't admit to it.  Slug slime!  smile

          1. habee profile image90
            habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I don't like hate-filled posts of any kind, but I think if HP tries to stop political posting, we'll have a witch hunt on our hands. What I really wonder is this: Do the views posted by LaLo honestly represent her beliefs? Will we ever know?

          2. habee profile image90
            habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No - I would NEVER post stuff like that for money! Like I said, I just posted stuff like what campgrounds we had been to, beaches we had visited, restaurants where we had dined, etc.

            1. Randy Godwin profile image94
              Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              i understand that, Holle.  I don't want HP to try and stop political postings. They can't even stop crap from being published here, much less paid political wackos.  But paid posters are spammers, no different than those we are told to report or flag.

              I suppose wanting to discuss politics with ordinary honest citizens is too much to ask here.  smile

              1. habee profile image90
                habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                But how would HP know if a poster was paid? There are some frequent virulent posters here, and I don't think ALL of them are paid.

      3. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You just can't keep away can you?? Lol!!

        1. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          My last words to you because you apparently have trouble with comprehension.  You didn't start this thread, person!  I only pledged to not participate or respond to those you instigate.  I will not co-operate with a shill, nor their attempts to spread false news or propaganda.  Even you should be able to understand my statement!  roll

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Maybe you could point out a falsehood or a propaganda that I posted.

  22. BillyDRitchie profile image59
    BillyDRitchieposted 5 years ago

    I usually stop following threads once they reach a certain length, but this one had me grinning all the way through.

    I'm sure LaLo is flattered to be the subject of so much attention.

    Memo to the left: if you don't like the anti-Obama threads being staarted, then why don't you try starting some pro-Obama threads to balance the scales.

    Or does that make too much sense?

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      ShortStoryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Or is there not enough material to support such threads?

  23. Eaglekiwi profile image74
    Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago

    Yea that guy who wears a squirrels bum on his head dont even get this much attention  lol

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Do you mean Donald Trump? smile

  24. Arthur Fontes profile image91
    Arthur Fontesposted 5 years ago

    Boy do things change, I remeber asking a participant in these forums if they were part of a political orginization posting for propoganda.  That was deemed a personal attack, yet now it seems it is alright to devote whole threads to the issue?

    Ahh wait a sec, I thought the member was posting for left wing orginizations, that must be the difference.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image94
      Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You got reprimanded for asking?  If so, then that was pure BS on the part of the moderator!  I don't care which side it is, paid political forum posters are scumbags!  This is the main problem with the political forums.  How can anyone have a civilized discussion about politics when some are paid to prevent it? 

      This is why the same old posters continue to spread the same old debunked links.  Are they ashamed when they are shown to be liars?  Hell no!  They simply post more of the same garbage knowing they will always have a few like minded wackos to back them up.

      These types do hurt their party much more than they will ever help it.  But it makes me feel bad for those in the same party being represented by the paid wackos!  We don't need this type  of stuff here!  It makes the whole site look bad!

      1. Arthur Fontes profile image91
        Arthur Fontesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Randy, do you not remember the MadameX fiasco?

        1. EmpressFelicity profile image84
          EmpressFelicityposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          What happened to Madame X then?

          1. Arthur Fontes profile image91
            Arthur Fontesposted 5 years ago in reply to this
            1. EmpressFelicity profile image84
              EmpressFelicityposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Ah.  Bit of a minor thing to cause someone to unsub though.  Unless they were thinking of doing so already.

        2. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Not really, Arthur.  I seem to remember her storming off the site or something of that nature.  Yes, I can see why she would be suspect.  I think she is still here, by the way, just under another guise on the forums.  Want to guess which poster?  smile

          There are some of us from both sides who wish to be able to respect the others views, and learn from them, for that matter.  Some of us are able to do this, but not with paid posters muddying up the waters with pure unadulterated BS.  I suppose this is too much to ask, though!  smile

  25. Len Cannon profile image88
    Len Cannonposted 5 years ago

    I doubt there are people specifically being paid by political operatives to "sway" opinion on HubPages. I think it is very possible that mid-sized political websites are throwing people a few bucks to stir up traffic to their websites by using their articles as the basis for controversial forum topics, though.

 
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