TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 2011
BRANDON, MISSISSIPPI HANDLES WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH AT MARINES FUNERAL.
Congratulations to Brandon Mississippi and all the people who saluted Staff Sgt Jason Rogers, a Marine at his funeral. The Westboro Baptist Church out of Topeka Kansas was going to protest at SSgt Rogers funeral but the Mississippians took care of that. Apparently a few days before the funeral a member of the Westboro Baptist Church was at a Brandon gas station running his mouth. He got his ass kicked. Despite a large crowd in the area no one remembers seeing anything.
On the day of the funeral Rankin County pickup trucks parked directly behind any Kansas licensed cars in the motels. Mysteriously the drivers disappeared until after the funeral was over. Some of the Kansas drivers called the Police but sadly all the wreckers in town were busy so that the pickups couldn't be towed.
A few of the Westboro Baptist Church members made it to the funeral but were ushered away for questioning about a crime they might have been involved with. They were questioned for a couple of hours and let go.
There is a video shot from the camera in a police car of the people along the funeral route. There are literally thousands of people with their hands over their hearts, American flags, firemen, flags on hook n ladders saluting SSG Rogers. A fitting tribute to a fallen Marine. Semper Fi
I bet the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't come back to Mississippi for anymore military funerals. This is the way to handle these renegades. I would love for any truckers on the road if they see any Westboro Baptist Church vans to give them all the courtesies they deserve. A four way block in would be a way to safely escort them down the highway.
Maybe it is time for people to show up in Topeka Kansas and give this group a taste of their own medicine.
As much as I'd like to agree with you on that being what they deserve.......it's not right. The WBC needs to be legally prosecuted for the harrassment they perpetuate upon soldiers and their families and other funeral attendees.
But so far you won't see even very many liberals hollering for that, because they're afraid it will shed light upon the fact that it should also be illegal to publicly condone homosexuality.
If you advocate physically beating up the WBC members, then it follows that that would be the way to handle other injustices. Most conservatives including me aren't for physical violence, even if it's justifiable, and liberal activists aren't gonna even let justice get in the way of their agenda.
Brenda, I didn't see that - but then I realized that maybe that's what OH meant about getting his butt kicked. I assumed it was meant metaphorically, not literally. If it's literal, I need to temper my enthusiasm somewhat.
The article said that one guy who was running his mouth got his a_ _ kicked. Was that a literal physical beating?
I'm sorry if I referred to it as "you" promoting violence if none of the sentences in that article were yours. (It's not clear where the writer's words end and yours begin, or if any of those even ARE your words! I was using "you" as a term in response to the article.
I firmly believe the WBC could've been handled long ago, legally, if it weren't for the liberal movement that says everyone is entitled to free speech no matter how horrid that speech is. The liberal agenda succeeded in breaking well-established taboos, and now almost anything goes!
I'm not for violence, unless it has to be used in self-defense or as a very last resort. Even against hateful people like the WBC. Even against a tyrant (unless absolutely necessary to ensure the timely cancellation of an on-going threat against our Nation's foundation and/or security.) Or if, for instance, the WBC members were to be arrested, and they resisted arrest, then, yes, the arresting Officers might have to physically subdue them, etc.
This was an e-mail from a friend, a Service friend. His words, sorry if i or it offended you.
I get real upset when ever things of this sort cross my desk. If I were to start deleting from the text, that would not be right either.
Our Boy's and Girl's in The Service for our country, Talk the Talk and Walk The Walk
Who am I to tell them to be politically Correct in the way they feel. I am on there side.
Hey brenda hi long time! those westbury people are gaming the system. they are wrong and this is an issue that i think we all agree on. right or left and you know where we both stand. something must be done , but what?????????????? i'm with you
Let me be clear on what I said. I am on the side of our Fighting Boy's and Girl's. The ones that are out their fighting in a war, we don't even belong in.
Agreed Oly - right or wrong, you have to support them - they have no say in it.
Oly, again I'm sorry if I took anything wrong. I'm for our servicemen and women too. And while I DO agree with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, I feel for those soldiers no matter what, and wish it could be different, that they could all come home alive and well. They're doing a job that I couldn't do and they're serving all of us.
I consider the military action of our soldier to be necessary violence if that's what their orders are and that's what it takes to do their jobs.
With that said, I still do not agree with the author of that article that advocated beating up a person physically unless he struck the first blow physically.
I don't know what can be done about it. Except to petition and speak out about ALL of it. Remember, I consider the liberal agenda to sanction homosexuality as absolutely wrong. I consider the actions of the Westboro Church to be absolutely wrong too. If I speak out against one, I speak out against the other. The problem is that both issues hinge upon each other. Both are, the way I see it, "gaming the system" as you put it.
The bottom line of propriety and legality has been smeared so badly that it's gonna lead to a lawless society if we're not very careful. All the basic moral issues (and freedom of speech is a moral issue too) are coming under controversy. People can now boldly call an unborn child a "parasite" (I've heard that many times!); human rights have been re-labeled into categories of "rights" based on everything BUT basic individual human rights. Our Nation's system of laws are messed-up.
You're sickening, radical ideas aren't much different from those of the WBC. Instead of fighting them you should be working with them.
Ping Pong Balls in the Gas Tanks is a fun revenge. They start the car, start driving and the fuel pump sucks the gas and the light weight pong ball down to the trap opening and thus it blocks the gas outlet opening and the car stops. The balls fit perfectly in the gas tank neck.
get a mile down the road and the engine cuts off. After it stops, the ball floats back up again and it starts back up until it sucks the ball back down to the drain to block it again. Off-on, off-on.... Would make for a fun ride back to Kansas!!!!!!! lolol
I LOVE THIS! Way to go, Southern savvy! I hope the ideas spread across the nation - but of course with appropriate local variations. As despicable as the WBC people are, they will learn from this incident and adapt. Let's hope each community will adapt as well and plan in advance.
Freedom of speech init?
If it is OK for a pastor to publicly burn the Koran then it is equally acceptable for Richard Heads from Westboro to eff up funerals.
You are from the U.S.A. I hope?
If this was your Son or daughter's Funeral, and this took place at your Funeral,
Just how would you respond.
Just in case you have lost it, let me remind you.
Us OLD TIMERS, were not raised that way. And, about that Koran. I have had a little Education, small taste of it, and I don't agree with any part of it.
This is , The United States Of America and it is time that the World knows, We Are Back and We Are Taking Our Country Back.
Oh indeed I'm not from the US Oly, can't you tell that by my clarity of vision?
I thought you were a Christian, how can you not agree with any part of a book that is based on the Christian bible?
I'm not against the idea of wopping the asses of Westboro Richard Heads, I'm against the hypocrisy that says freedom of speech allows somebody to burn the Koran but doesn't allow somebody else equal freedom to trash a funeral.
Put another way Oly, you want the right to insult me, but you won't give me the right to insult you.
Oly, I can't see a man like yourself going out and burning a Koran or any book for the matter just because you don't believe it or buy into it - you don't seem like that kind of guy. And I certainly don't see someone like you protesting a soldier's funeral. I think John's comment was meant to illustrate that two wrongs don't make a right. I can't see any decent person protesting a funeral. And I can't see any decent person burning someone else's scripture.
There's a difference.
The funeral protestors are personally attacking an individual and/or their family.
The Koran-burning Pastor is burning a book that any person can own. That's not a personal attack. He can burn a Bible if he wanted to be blasphemous; that's his choice. If however he steals someone else's property (Bible or Koran or comic book or Reader's Digest..lol) and burns it, then he's committing a personal crime.
Then why does your pastor want to burn a copy of the Koran, why not a copy of The Catcher in the Rye or the American Constitution?
My Pastor? He's not my Pastor.
I imagine he burns the Koran because he doesn't like its message. So what? And apparently he thinks the Constitution is a good thing. No reason to burn that.
You aren't American then!
Tell me, do you think if I came across and camped outside your Pastors church and burnt copies of the Bible because I objected to its constant references to stoning people and putting their eyes out, he'd bring me cups of tea and cookies?
No. But he might watch and laugh as the cops come and get ya for disturbing the peace. 'Cause where would you be? If you were on church property, you could be arrested. If you were out in the street, you could be arrested for doing something dangerous on public property. If you were across the street, you'd most likely be on somebody else's property. So...why not stay home on your OWN property like the Florida Pastor did and burn whatever the heck book you want to?! LOL
So the Pastor owns property a thousand miles away from home just outside a Mosque does he!
Oh okay so the Florida Pastor is still planning on burning a Koran again, this time outside a mosque. You mean he hasn't given up that idea yet? Well, although I think he has every right to destroy any book he owns, I think he should think twice before actually lighting a fire anywhere in public. Maybe he could just take a big ol' box or garbage bag and rip up whatever book he has and put the pieces in the box or bag. That wouldn't be a danger of damaging anyone else's property.
Brenda, I wonder if any Christian pastor would feel some regret at burning or destroying the Koran if they knew how prominantly Jesus Christ figured therein? Of course, I find anyone who would burn a book to be the last person to have actually read a book. And sadly, most Evangelical pastors I have heard preach, met, or have spoken with are anything but well-read.
Tell you a true story. I went to a client's store. He and his brother are Palestinian and run a small carry-out in the city. One of the brothers is Christian, the other is Moslem. The Christian brother had bought his young son a copy of the Christian Bible written in Arabic. Some of the local white trash came in the store and destroyed the Bible and spray-painted obscenities (ethnic slurs) on the bathroom walls.
Once again, they were damaging someone else's property. That's against the law, isn't it?
And it matters not to me how Jesus is portrayed in the Koran. The Koran is not the history of Jesus. The Bible is.
Well you are wrong - a good portion of the Koran is the history of Jesus. Much more than you would ever guess, but if you haven't read it, you don't know... And you obviously haven't nor will you ever. In that case unless you are speaking with other Evangelicals, you might want to by-pass the topic as it honestly makes you look a little silly to deny something that is as obvious as black and white.
Thanks for the suggestion, but the Holy Bible is enough for me. It contains all I need to know, all anyone really needs to know, and this silly person will stick with it. I don't mind people thinking I'm silly. What I mind is people thinking I might be swayed into believing something other than the Bible.
Oh I am a firm believer in the Christian Bible, but I am also educated and have been exposed to the world - both through travel and reading. It's a wonderful thing reading. I am not trying to sway you or anyone. I find it amazing, however, how many "true Christians" have no idea what other people have written about their Savior.
I've read other books besides the Bible......did you think I hadn't? haha
But no I don't consider myself well-read. And I'm definitely not well-traveled. I suffer from motion sickness big-time. But I'm not totally blind about what others say about Jesus. The Jews and Islamists don't believe he's divine. The atheists...well....just from around this site here, it's obvious they have a ...ahem....very confrontational view of Jesus, to say the least. Many of them think he's a pansy-wristed mild-mannered person who preached some form of free love like at Woodstock or something! lol
Jesus is famous. One doesn't have to go very far from their own home to hear something about him. I've seen blasphemous writings about him, heard things, seen movies portraying outlandish things, even heard false and/or weird things about him from some who say they're Christians!
You say you're a firm believer in the Bible?
Tell me---who, and/or what, then, is Jesus?
God incarnate, the Messiah, the Redeamer of the World.. do I pass? I do not believe that everything in the Bible is the literal truth - I think the New Testament is likely very close to being a historical account of the life of Jesus, but many other scriptures/accounts were edited out by the early Church. The Old Testament was greatly influenced by Babylonian myth and legend ie, Noah's Ark, the Garden of Eden, The Tower of Babel, etc. These are all straight out of Babylonian myth - the Epic of Gilgamesh, etc - all pre-date the Hebrew Bible. You can disagree with me, and that is fine. But all these texts are out there and have been known for nearly a century and all pre-date the Hebrew account. Now that may sound like blasphemy to you, but it is what it is - it doesn't diminish the "Good News for Modern Man" that is the New Testament.
It isn't a question of being swayed into believing something other than the bible, it's a question of understanding your fellow man.
Of not ascribing evil where no evil exists.
Does not the bible tell you to love your neighbour?
Of course. And if you love someone, you'll warn them about impending or ultimate danger, especially to their soul. And if you're referring to the Koran (or Quran?)-burning Pastor's actions, then.....the way I see it, you can love someone but hate what they do, and his actions are in response to their actions, not against them personally. But if you're referring to the Westboro Church....their actions are a personal attack against people.
But what if Muslims see the burning of the Koran (or Qur'an) as a personal attack?
What if they do? The Florida Pastor may see the building of a mosque as a personal attack too. But I really don't think he does! I think he sees an outside religion trying to take over his Country and he's acting on that basis, which he has every right to.
He's scared of 2% of the population of the US!
He needs help.
I should clarify that my statement is a possibility. I can't speak for that Pastor since I don't even know him personally. But that's just my take on his reasoning.
Does it matter what the percentage is? It only takes a few people with a loud enough voice or enough power to start any movement going, and insert some distractions and false info and promises, and especially the accusations of "intolerance" and "hatred" and "religious bias" and "racism", and they've got themselves a real affirmative action thing goin' on. And one key thing to have is----an example, a guinea pig, taking one or two persons or secluded incidents and building it up into a whole universal political statement. It's how liberal movements are born. I'll ask you to consider that the Florida Pastor is being used by the opposition as a guinea pig, his individual actions being scrutinized and blasted, so that eventually it may become illegal for ANYONE to speak out against Islam or to even burn a book on their OWN property. Remember that Mr. Obama got General Petraeus to call the Pastor out in PUBLIC. That's nonsense, and is part of the soft tyranny that we're now being subjected to by the One-who-can-do-no-wrong in the White House.
Sounds like a little psychiatric intervention would be more effective in addressing the problems Muslims have with Quran-flagrations if personal identification with an inanimate object prompts one to cut the throats of Catholic nuns, self-explosivimmolation(read immolation with explosives ala Vietnamese Buddhists and gasoline)or crowd AK-47 treatments, or Christian church ransacking or UN representative vivisections.
Indeed! You hit it on the nose, uncorrectedvision.
Could you imagine not burning copies of Mein Kampf if it stirred Nazi sympathizers in the West to take to the streets during WW II. It seems to me that burning the Quran, portraying Muhammad in cartoons or on an episode of South Park would all be useful psychological warfare techniques. What better way to stir the enemies of Western tolerance in to action than treating their faith the way we have treated Christianity for decades - with contempt.
So not sharing a religion is cause for warfare!
Apparently so, according to the radical or activist Muslims!
Probably a tiny fraction of 1% and probably far fewer than radical Christians intent on causing mayhem.
A subject worthy of research. I could help you in that regard. There are ample sources available that demonstrate the radicalism of everyday Muslims even in the US and UK.
Has there ever been a time when there was no radical Islam. In fact there are those, Muslims included, who would conclude that one must be radical to be Muslim.
You could say the same about many religions, including Christianity!
Treat somebody as an enemy and quickly they will become an enemy.
In fact you have far fewer radical Muslims in the US than in other countries.
Admittedly some of the most vocal reformers in Islam live in the United States. One, Zuhdi Jasser runs a foundation for the democratic reform of Islam and is a graduate of the United States Naval Academy.
I say why don't they reform Islam in an Islamic country instead of in America?
Do you realise that the average Muslim has far more in common with you than me.
Certainly until recently more likely to vote republican and strongly opposed to homosexuality.
Actually there are alot of homosexual Muslims in arabic countries. They don't call it homosexual unless somone wants to get married. That's over the line for them, but they are perfectly fine with doing everything else. I've had plenty of coworkers coming back from Afghanistan tell me the same thing. It's ok for men to have sex as long as they don't get married.
Maybe it's an indication of how Muslims have assimilated into American life as I was referring to American Muslims.
I would but I would not call him a typical Muslim, not even in America.
Not at all, unless you mean because the sphere of Jihad is populated by infidels who frustrate bringing the whole world into the sphere of Islam. The war on infidels has been well underway for sometime perhaps it is time to join that war and use all resources to bring it to a conclusion.
Point taken Brenda. No decent person would do any of the above.
Agreed on all replay's and points.
BOY, i'll tell you, I sure have some kind of talent and how I do it, don't have a clue.
I will get in sink with you guys, yet. If I say, YES, the answer is NO. If I say NO, the answer is, YES.
If I say, Right, the answer is WRONG. if I say, WRONG, the answer is Right.
If anybody can unscramble what I just said, Please let me know.
In the mean time, I hope you all had a great day.
ME, well, the wind is blowing 90 to nothing, Can't keep my signal for TV. have to keep playing with my antenna.
And here comes MORE SNOW, rain , hail. Our short cut over the Mountain will not be open untill the end of June this year. Nominally it is open by now
Gas is holding at $3.59, grocery's still on the up swing.
Outside of that, I am having a great day.
I agree but god forbid he should sing "Kung Fu Fighting" in an Isle of Wight karaoke bar.
Oly there you go again! You gotta luv oly! If it wasn't for Oly! Hubpages would be boring!
My heart goes out to the family and friends of Staff Sgt Jason Rogers. Thank you Jason for your service and sacrifice...and for Always being Faithful-Semper Fi. It is a hard time to endure, especially with all the "crazies" adding in their opinions. God Bless all of you in your grief.
As for WBC...their filthy, disregard for young and gallant and honorable volunteers...caught up with them in Mississippi...for a little of "down-home" justice. I hope it is a trend of things to come!
Hey, WBC: "You Reap, What you sow!"
I'm just glad to see people standing up for basic human rights.
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