Still don't know who I'm voting for for sure, but that woman gave a great speech imo.
I'll say what I want. I found it unimpressive. Where was the policy?
You mean where were the minute details covering every aspect of the many policy questions she addressed quite clearly? You don't honestly think that an acceptance speech at the convention is where you explain how you're going to allocate money and reform agencies, and which contracts are going to be ammended or re-bid, who is going to be promoted or nominated to what position, who is going to be removed, how many dollars are going to be diverted from which programs, which are going to be merged and which eliminated, and how the tax revinues will be reapportioned and to how many decimal points and any massive number of incredibly complex and delicate parts of the big picture that takes time and teams to work through once some leader actually decides to make a point of something? Yeah, that part was missing for sure. But she was pretty clear on what she stands for. That was my point.
She still has to prove she can handle it and make me believe she's not just hot air, but she gave a good speech and I'm impressed for whatever being impressed at a good speech is worth.
I was impressed as well....the woman has sass...and for what that's worth, I like that in a person. She presented herself well, spoke well and with conviction. I also enjoyed Rudy's speech too. The debates are going to be very interesting. I'm looking forward to them immensely.
No, I don't think she needed to delve into details, of course. But talking about your goals (beyond victory in Iraq, and drilling for oil) and how you plan on making them feasible, would be a great start. We don't vote people based on how much we like them; we vote for them because we think they'll get things done.
I have a soft spot for sassy, strong people - some of my best friends have this personality. But I don't vote for someone for the highest office in the land because I like their communication style. I want to see what they plan on doing, and how they plan on making that happen.
I also look forward to the debates.
I only heard excerpts from the speech. But I was concerned at her use of the phrase 'victory in Iraq'. Against what enemy? How will she know when she has won? Seemed a bit simplistic to me.
There were a couple of spots where I looked at my wife and said, "Yeah, she's gonna have to deal with that remark later." My point is overall, it was good. She came out of nowhere, got lambasted for three days and really shone brightly on this particular moment.
Quensday, I agree, I can't remember an election where both candidates seemed to overlap in so many ways and yet be so polar opposite in others.
Strong - loved it!
Rudy was awesome. Unbelievable.
Obama is going to be on Fox's Bill O'Reilly tomorrow - Thurs. Obama called him. They are going to talk 30 minutes before McCain's speech. O'Reilly announced it live tonight.
I thought Sarah Palin did an amazing job!! She showed that she is smart, confident, strong, and dedicated. I also really enjoyed hearing Rudy speak!! It was an impressive night! I can't wait to see Obama on The Factor! I think it was cleverly timed, though. The same night as McCain's speach at the convention. I really don't see that as a coincidence.
Yes, O'Reilly planned it all to take attention away from McCain...
I am not sure if that was supposed to be sarcastic or not. Sometimes it is hard to tell on things like this. I am a big fan of Bill O'Reilly. I look forward to watching the long awaited interview with Obama. I feel that the timing had more to do with Obama that it did with O'Reilly. I don't really know for sure.
It's tit for tat no matter where it comes from. The Republicans shrewdly announced their VP shortly after Obama's speech to steal his thunder...and now it's the same thing vice versa. I try not to get offended by the political strategy...but instead to use it to gain insight into the mind of the political machine.
It's a chess match...and to be honest, I don't want a president that can't think one step ahead of his opponent. Repercussions are everything...and I'd like to know that whomever is in charge is thinking about that always. I applauded the timing of Sarah Palin's announcement...and obviously Obama learned something from that as well.
The Brits agree..
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne … 647092.ece
I think she handled her attacks well, and that is the part I liked of her speech the most. I would like to comment that if you take out all the proper nouns in her speech and speeches in general, they would all boil down to the same. You won't be able to figure out which party it came from simply because of the overwhelming elements of pronounced patriotism. People also applaud tremendously after key trigger words such as people, democracy, America, etc.
Unfortunately, I know a number of people that vote for candidates based only on their looks and speaking style. I am frustrated by this and wish they would awaken to critical thinking.
Guliani made me laugh out loud (I laugh at goofy stuff said by anyone against any candidate) and several times reminded me of stand-up comedy.
As far as a Republican ticket, I think some voters voting GOP will be voting for Palin and McCain will be along for the ride, or function as training wheels for the VP sort-of-thing.
I am having fun listening to both Dems and GOP in this election, though. Further, politcal cartoons have turned to Photoshop and the like, which is also a hoot.
"Pathetic Earthlings, who will save you now....?"
I agree. Palin's performance shows that she can play to the camera and read her lines well, but that just means she's a good actor. It has nothing to do with her ability to actually govern. Unfortunately that seems to be how we choose our leaders these days.
I hope people remember that there's a high probability, if she's elected, that she WILL be President. John McCain is not young and not in good health - what are the chances of him lasting the term?
I don't think anyone can predict what will happen to John McCain in the next few years. To me, it's a crap shoot. Regardless, Sarah Palin is a player who needs to be scrutinized because whether McCain wins or loses in November, Palin will likely be a contender for the Republicans in 2012, that is unless Troopergate turns out to be something big.
I think Palin is a great speaker, but I did not like her speech. I agree with posters saying her policy is lacking, and I disagree that signing in the construction of a pipeline, deciding not to take some previous luxuries of office, and giving back a surplus (like Bush in some regards), means she's a great leader.
What about the real issues? What are her plans?
And of course, she's not the one running for president.
I also didn't like her attacks on Obama. She manipulated and in some ways straight out lied. If she is not aware of Obama's policy outlines, all she has to do is visit his website, or listen to him speak sometimes.
He never said he would raise everyone's taxes, in fact he wishes to create many tax cuts, and he does have policies for all the big issues. His are more indepth than McCain's. I don't trust Palin.
I agree that Palin did, in fact, misrepresent Obama's record in part. As to raising taxes, what I gather from one of our city papers here in Chicago is that both John McCain and Obama will be raising taxes, McCain by 3% and Obama by 5%. Like most of you, I thought that she did a rather fine job deliverying her speech. The big question is how much of it was accurate?
Which Chicago paper are you refering to? Chicago media is known for being liberally biased, especially the Sun-Times.
But facts are facts...I'm sure they quoted a poll.
The difference is, Obama will raise taxes for the richest 1% of the citizens. McCain will lower taxes for that same 1%.
Yes, Obama plans on raising taxes. He wants to raise payroll taxes, estate taxes and income taxes. He wants to tax businesses, big and small. He says this won't affect middle-class America. The only citizens his taxes won't affect are people who don't buy things from businesses and who don't collect a paycheck from businesses. When business gets tax hikes, they cut spending, which means they cut jobs. Small businesses will be forced out of business, which results in more jobs lost. My family ran a small business years ago, and after taxes were raised on small businesses, my family was forced to close down their business because it was beyond our family's ability to keep it running.
Conservatives think that anything that doesn't agree with them 100% is liberally-biased. Needless to say, reality doesn't necessarily agree.
Fair enough to see that way if you like, but as someone who's done a fair amount of speaking I can say, she still stuck that speech. For me it's kind of like judging a gymnast's floor excercise or something. She nailed her landing, that's my point.
I must say, she spoke well, and has a great smile.
What she said though, made me want to puke.
But - if you prefer references to "victory in Iraq," and "stopping Iran from akwiring nukular weapons," and "Go USA," to actual policies and a reasonable approach, I guess she is for you.
As an outsider, I am frankly amazed that a 72 year old with cancer is allowed to pick some one such as this as a running mate.
I understand her only real function as VP candidate is to cast aspersions on their rivals, but if McCain is elected, my only hope is that he lives long enough to prevent this woman from akwiring the mantle.......
God help us all if she became President.
Where is that big button to stop them Iranians?
Even though everything Palin stands for is anathema to me, I give her credit where credit is due. It was a well given speech,
of her given perspective, although some of her statements were pure fiction.
See, you guys have collectively proven that both candidates are totally evil and going to ruin everything for everyone. So I might just go back to voting for Palin because she's hot. I mean, if the nation is doomed no matter who we elect, might as well have some eye-candy.
Hey, Obama has a cute ass and Joe is hot for an older guy. I wouldn't kick either of them out of bed, but I wouldn't let McCain INTO it...and of course, being totally hetero, I wouldn't let Palin in either.
I'm just amazed at how unreal this whole Presidential race is going. I'm still not sure who to vote for. It's a long way to November. Who knows what will happen.
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